Gadadhara dasa (rus)

Bhaktivinoda initiated his younger son, Lalita Prasada into siddha pranali, but not his older son, Bhaktisiddhanta. Perhaps it was the difference in their devotional mood that dictated this course of action to Srila Bhaktivinoda.

The term "siddha-pranali" is not found in any of the writings of Srila Rupa Goswami or any of the principle Gaudiya Goswamis.

Bhagavat shiksha parampara is not found either, anywhere at all until Siddhanta Saraswati.

The term siddha-pranali was manufactured by sahajiyas and is a cheap imitation of something beyond anything sahajiyas are capable of.

I don't care what Bhaktivinoda did.

What a nice illustration of the mentality of parampara of spiritual rejecters.

oh really ? how do you explain the four set of jagannath deities sitting there inside the hot kitchen and consecrating tonnes of rice and other foodstuffs two times daily in the four main dinner halls of mayapur dham iskcon headquarters ????????????

 

isnt this transcendental kitchen duty ??!!

Maybe not. If the mentality is indeed the one of offering in order to cleanse/disinfect the food and not the one of offering love an devotion, I explain this show by necessity to maintain a good number of your following.

killing plants for sake of eating would also produce bad karma. however in order to erase its ill effects we first offer this to krishna and take the prasadam.

This is not a geniune idea of offering foodstuff to God. This sounds like using your ista-devata as some karma-free food production facility. So your comparison may not be justified.

I gave 8 years of my life to the mission of Krishna consciousness missionary work.

That's not a small thing, this means a lot of dedication to your Guru. Did this make you better? Did it help to grow your Krishna-bhakti?

Maybe Indra realized that Lord Krishna more or less wanted to pick a fight over the Parijata flower and obliged him in a sporting battle over the flower?

I like this version by Sonic Yogi and it makes me feel comfortable. However, Sri Suka explicitly called this behavior ignorance or illusion and damned wealth of suras. So it still remains a question for me how a CEO of heavens can be "ignorant". His position is not simply that of enjoying the good karma, but is that of chief sura. In Bhagavad Gita asuric qualities are set off against daiva type qualities, hence daivic = those of suras. Daivic qualities are

Fearlessness; purification of one's existence; cultivation of spiritual knowledge; charity; self-control; performance of sacrifice; study of the Vedas; austerity; simplicity; nonviolence; truthfulness; freedom from anger; renunciation; tranquillity; aversion to faultfinding; compassion for all living entities; freedom from covetousness; gentleness; modesty; steady determination; vigor; forgiveness; fortitude; cleanliness; and freedom from envy and from the passion for honor.

Freedom from covetousness is exactly what is lacking in the person who "chose to fight with Supreme Lord".

Can anyone think of some other explanation?

Sonic Yogi,

Please do not disgrace yourself and Gaudiyas on this forum anymore.

And Hinduism doesnt want outsiders. There was no need to change the rules for foreigners. They (foreigners) are not our father.

Me too.

Dear Amlesh, do you think this version can be judged authentic? sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe48/index.htm (add www in the address)

I guess you already saw this one. This is the only one that is available for me and I wish I knew if it was worth reading.

Pranam-namaskar, Narasimhan. I guess you can try and search something out there: ibiblio.org/sripedia.