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Priitaa O ye of little faith. sigh.

 

Even if by chance there is some (material) evidence that man walked on the moon, isn't it interesting one is viewed as blinded by faith, rather than having genuine faith. After all, science is proving and disproving itself regularly. In any case, I once read a post here explaining that there are "shadow" planets which are rock, etc. If anything was walked on, it was that, not the heavenly planet known as the moon.

Priitaa this is no big thing, when you get on a 747 is it a plane, is it real? Denying mans walk on the moon is so nonsense. Watch the Video

"It is blind faith that puts man in darkness, a religious superstitious darkness that will only lead to a 'dark ages' period of human existence where the Catholic Chuch contolled Europe with the 'fear of God" Sir Rod

Explained here is the evidence and facts that man went to the moon and clearly proves Srila Prabhupada's understanding was based on misinformation

 

The above is not true. Srila Prabhupada once said in 1972, that if they did go to the moon, they could not enter the Heavenly astmoshere their and all they would see was a lifeless world of rocks with their gross material bodies and mundane technological instruments

Today their complaint is ISKCON holds ratha yatra on the wrong day. Next their complaint will be that there should only be Panda priests serving Jagannatha in ISKCON temples, and untouchables shouldnt be allowed to have His darshan, as is "Jagannatha culture".

 

The fact is they are simply irrelevant people. They are best simply ignored.

 

Further, it should be noted that even India does not have a universal calendar. Different states celebrate festivals on different days, based on different calendars. The Kartik month of North India is one month before the Kartik month of south India. There are even differences in the calendars of Vaishnavas and Shaivites, and Sri Vaishnavas and north Indian vaishnavas.

 

So this illusion that there is an exact perfect date for all of India (what to speak of the world) is false.

 

ISKCON does not follow "panda culture" and ISKCON has no interest in following their culture in the future. ISKCON is the organization that has spread the worship of Lord Jagannatha throughout the world. They really don't need advice and guidance from ritualistic priests who have abused their powers for hundreds of years and have destroyed Hinduism (through untouchability, sati, devadasi, etc.)

 

In summary, anyone who thinks there is something called a "Hindu calendar" needs to educate themselves about the various calendars of India and their histories.

theist : What the #^*@! Forget these slobs. Mundane religionists and demons.

When we try to steal God's glory for ourselves, these things happen, and we are held up for the world to laugh at. Their false-egos have made fools of them all before the world.

ghari: No one can own God. Only humility and Jagannatha can save them now from the darkest of hells.

13monkeys : They try to incite anger at some "enemy" and feign some grievances. They are just looking for attention to make themselves feel special. Ignore these guys. Let them rant and rave. What can they do? Devotees will continue to hold their Ratha Yatras and worship the Lord. And they'll keep foaming at the mouth and burning cloth dolls. Who cares? They look like fools - and when a fool acts foolish its best to just sit back and laugh

Yes I agree, frankly I just ignore them, don't even acknowledge their existence. Due to their naive polluted materially contaminated tradition in Puri, they see and think what they want to see and believe. For hundreds of years the Puri Priests have seen Lord Jagannath as Indian or Hindu and not 'The Lord of the Universe' which includes Englismen, Americans, Europeans, Russians Africans, Chinese, South East Asians, Soth Americans and Candians

However unfortunately, there are even some ISKCON devotees that are also like this, who are also proud and self rightious like this (especially Down Under), who are so affraid of the many karmi polluted so called devotees who follow Narayana and Govinda Maharaj's version of Vaishnavism. Such people have no idea what a REAL humble caring devotee of Lord Caitanya is.

Presently, we are in a typical primitive pioneering backward selfish mundane Spiritual culture, it is therefore a good thing puri managers have acknowledged ISKCON because their barbaric dispay of violence only bringS ISKCON into everyones lounge room via Newspapers and TV in INDIA.

In time the real mature Spiritually advanced ISKCON of Srila Prabhupada, that presently we are a long, long way from, due to immaturity and the pollution of materialism among present day sannyais and gurus, will manifest eventualy as genuine prideless selfless devotees. Soon, genuine Vaisgnavas will shine through the present primitive troublesome, juvenile, adolescent version of ISKCON in 2008.

So how will we know?

Great devotees who are lined up waiting for the right krsna conscious moment in time, will take birth when they feel safe in proper non materialistic non judgemental selfless REAL devotee families and as children, they will NOT go to karmi schools but will PREACH to EVERYONE, even to the most fallen of fallen.

Vigraha : What’s going on is obvious, the Puri Temple devotees and managers feel that ISKCON is taking over what they believe if their festival of Ratha-yatra. they are probably fearful that Lord Jagannath will be made more famous by ISKCON than their Puri festival (well, that already happened thanks to the wonderful causless mercy and humility of Srila Prabhupada.

To understand how the Puri pujaris and managers felt about the 'new ISKCON kid on the block', just look at some ISKCON Temples reaction when Gaudiya math Temples started in there area, some ISKCON Temples even 'patented' the name Hare Krishna so the Gaudiya math could not use the term 'Hare Krishnas'

The whole thing stinks of hypocrisy and arrogance!

I believe Bhakta Bob summed it all up 45 years ago, 'The times ar achanging'

:The Puri Preists should be honoured ISKCON is spreading the glorious of Lord Jaganath and ISKCON should be honoured that the Gaudiya math is spreading in the West because that is ALSO Srila Prabhupada's credit and mercy on everyone including the Gaudiya and all Hindus in India and around the world

Our only friend is the Spiritual Master and Krsna in the heart. His real dedicated devotees, who really only want to save EVERYONE on this planet, are very rare.

Those non-judgemental non-materialistic devotees, who don't foolishly send their kids to the slaughterhouse karmi schools, are the only devotees one should seek out for assocation.