Amlesh

Why not hear the whole story? Ceteris Paribus. A foolish devotee is much clever than a clever Atheist. Krishna carves the way of the Devotee to see him. That is what... who is the seer of God, apart from God no one knows.. that is the Only certainty. That why you see Greats like Maharaj Bharata failing to take the Lord's name in the End and on the other hand sinners like Ajamila uttering the Name of Vishnu.. ANyways whoever selected be it Maharaj Bharata or Ajamila... there gaining liberation or not is not what really matter... there going or staying leads to universal welfare.. which to a real Vaishnava is more important.....KEYWORD: Lokanam hitakarinau That is why it is said... He does not even ask liberation even though He only knows the real meaning of liberation. Do you think it is so easy. NDE experience might say it all.

Hmmm.... He does exist but very rarely he takes birth.

That is what I was thinking...the Upanishad's teaches detachment from activities. On the other Hand the portion that you outlined concerning Activities leading to good birth, birth place et al... But Krishna does not negate both... He says.. you have your right in activities but not to its fruits. He also does not negate detachment here... he says.. do, do it selflessly. Sure.. we do have few reserved SAnyassis.... but rarer than them is the Mahatma... who works selflessly for the welfare of the Universe...

And what is the focus of the Jnana Kanda... what is actually teaches. The Dark Spot is in Bold: VEDAS = FRUITIVE ACTIVITIES + JNANA In any case, has Jnana anything to do with the Detachment from activities?

How do you explain the mixture of fruitive activities with jnana... a dark spot remains a dark spot. All the different interpretation might be taken but none of them can remove the fruitive part of the Vedas logically... but Krishna only knows how to do it... How does the Shankara Bhasya explains the importance of Activities with a detached mood???? Krishna never interprets the direct meaning of the Vedas... He says about the rituals performed to get good this and that.. but continues on with the other side of coins also... and ultimately reconciles both..

I hope those terms and their real meaning would be well documented by the various ways for future references. The coming generations, won't be pampered with all that.

While the Vedic Thought considered religious activity as an end in itself, the Upanishads emphasized Jnana and renunciation of activity. Since both path of activities were one sided, I believe the Lord had to descend personally to correct their limited outlook of activity which was explained in His Gita. He has drawn the idea of activity from the Vedas and desirelessness from the Upanishads and Synthesised the two - activity and desirelessness - into desireless activity, which leads to the maintenance of the World.. Bhakti. There is no doubt about the importance of the Vedas, since from there on, the Lord teaches the rest. Love you Krishna

lolz I would certainly love to be in that mood. Bhakti is the mean.

Yes, it's true. What are needed to overcome are those desires, replaced by the Intense Love for Madhusudan. Unfortunately, even for that I helpless, I depend on Him.

Taking out the best of a bad bargain.

I'm fortunate enough to have a cyber-darshanof the Lord.

The rural areas of India is the place where such ladies still exist. Of course, there are exceptions there and not there also:rolleyes:

SB 11.8.10: Just as the honeybee takes nectar from all flowers, big and small, an intelligent human being should take the essence from all religious scriptures. (Shrimad Bhagvat Canto 11)........QUOTE Smaranam Refreshing my memory

Novice..

lolz.. Got to get a glimpse on NDTV

lolz... that was really funny. It reminds 10 years back.. when our Teacher used to tell say, "FIND the solution for the given problem." We used to look below our table, and say "where??????"

Great post Kshamaji.

Nice realisation. CHeers

Short and Sweet:)

Yeah right, when I think the Kids of this Era won't be having the warmth of their mom... and also... no difference in calling a dad, dad and mom, mom. Since they share equal this and that.

lolz.. a good one hahahaha.. It makes me remember, when my friend introduced me to his wife.. by saying.. "Here is my husband". Yeps.. you are right melvin.. the reversal of role has created a serious disequilibrium in the natural functioning of the SACRED PAIR.

True.. but I still believe the need of such great ladies is much more important for the society as a whole. They are the linchpin for a sane society.

Just somedays back, one of my little neighbor was recounting me that event. The l'il fellow is well versed with many of those details, even though not from any school. I was simply impressed.

I can imagine, how tough it tough it would be out there. I guess, that's why Srila wanted so much that the Bhaktas be assembled, viz. Association. This Forum is great.