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    daas ka daas

    The Swaminarayan Faith

    Please read within the Nishklanand Kavya the Purshottam Prakaash Prakaar 37:<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Chopai: Ek bahu bahu Parkare re, vale Jeev tarya ah vare re<o:p></o:p> Bahu Hari kari Parmarth re, tarya jeev vavri samarthya re<o:p></o:p> Varto vichaar karyo che vale re, avu avu ghanu kem chale re<o:p></o:p> Mota mota karavya Mandir re, tema rakhya sant sudhir re<o:p></o:p> Pan teh toh sant che joh tyagi re, vasi kem sakshe vitragi re<o:p></o:p> Mamat vina Mandir kem rehshe re, vaat bandh eh kem bes she re<o:p></o:p> Jeh tyagi che triya dhan tanare, deh suchthi nirashi ghanare<o:p></o:p> Tene nahi jarvaay jagya re, nathi vaat eh banva lagya re<o:p></o:p> Mate ena karu ek dhani re, toh rakhe khabar eni ghani re<o:p></o:p> Pachi sarvar desh thi sambandhi re, tene teravi jaygha didhire<o:p></o:p> Sthapya dat putra pote sthir re, avadhprasadne raghuvir re<o:p></o:p> Tene ape karya acharyaj re, karva bahu jivna kaarajre<o:p></o:p> Apya vechimandir ne desh re, jema koi ne na thay kalesh re<o:p></o:p> Sadhu Satsangi na guru kidha re, desh uttar dakshin vechi didha re<o:p></o:p> Kahe sau sahune desh rejo re, saro sahune updesh dejo re<o:p></o:p> Tamne manshe pujshe jeh re, mota sukh ne pamshe the re<o:p></o:p> Ann dhan apshe anbar re, pashu vahan ne vari ghar re<o:p></o:p> Fal full dal jal deshere, te toh akhand dham ne leshe re<o:p></o:p> Eh adi jeh apshe vastra re, eva ghar dhaari jeh gruhast re<o:p></o:p> Vari padhravshe potane gher re, karshe seva vari sari pere re<o:p></o:p> Vari karshe sanmaan enu re, mare karvu che kalyaan tenu reh<o:p></o:p> Em acharya thi kalyaan re, thashe sahu jivnu sujaan re<o:p></o:p> Mano moksh no chelo upaay re, eh upraant nathi kahy re<o:p></o:p> Murti acharaj dharmpaal re, reshe kalyan te bahu kaar re<o:p></o:p> Jeh jeh ene koi asharshe re, teh toh jaroor bhavjar tarshe re<o:p></o:p> Karshe darshan gunn leshe re, vari pachya pramane koi deshe re<o:p></o:p> Shraddha sahit seva kare soi re, vari raaji thashe ene joi re<o:p></o:p> Eva jann jeh jeh jagh mahi re, teni karvi mare sahaay re<o:p></o:p> Mari iccha che hamh evi re, param prapti sahu devi re<o:p></o:p> Mate moksh nu motu dvaar re, ame ughadiyu che ahh vaar re<o:p></o:p> Acharya thi bahu udharshe re, jano brahmnagar vaas karshe re<o:p></o:p> Em shri mukhe kahyu Shrijire, jan sau satya mani lijiye re<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Bhagwan this time round emancipated many souls.With his great powers he showed much of his divinity. God thought, how can what He has established exist for the maximum time? God decided that He has constructed big temples and got saints to reside therein. But these saints are renunciates how will they live with so much control. How can temples exist without the saints thinking them as their own? These saints cannot have money or women and even not attached to their own body. They should not and cannot control such places, so I shall establish those who can control all this. So God called His relatives from sarvar desh and gave them places to stay. He consecrated Ayodhyaprasad and Raghuvir as His sons. He then initiated them as Acharyas so that they could help those in seek of salvation. He divided the land and the mandirs unto them so no one would have problems. He made them the gurus of ALL sadhus and satsangis and divided the land into southern and northern divisions. He stated for them to live in their respective regions and preach the goodness of others to them. Whoever listens to the word of the Acharyas and performs their veneration will attain much happiness. Whoever donates them grain, money, animals, transport, fruit, flowers and water they will attain my eternal abode. Whichever householders gives all this and anything else such as clothes as well as calls them unto their home, venerates them, provides service to them and respects them, I, will give them moksh. In this way the Acharyas will give Moksh to the souls. You should all believe that this is the final way to attain liberation. There is no other way after this fourth way to attain moksh. I shall live in the Acharyas forever. Whoever takes refuge unto them will definitely cross this material world. Whoever has their darshan and takes their good attributes, talks good of them, serves them with love and gets happy unto seeing them shall I will look after them forever. I want all to attain such liberation of the first kind, such is my will. Hence this is a great big door for attaining moksh, which I have opened this time round. Many will be liberated through these Acharyas and live in my Akshardham. This is what Shriji Maharaj Himself stated. Hence all should believe such firmly.
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    daas ka daas

    The Swaminarayan Faith

    You fail to answer alot of my post. or provide no comments for the references fro mactual scriptures that i post. The other members who read such can see this too.
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    daas ka daas

    The Swaminarayan Faith

    Jai Swaminarayan,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> First of all which question have I not answered please restate as I clearly feel that I have answered every single one of your points. I Clearly stated that the Satsangi Jivan in the 4th Prakran clearly states that that Acharya should give Bhagvati Diskha to the new tyagi. I states this earlier. You need to read my post carefully.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The Acharyas today have not failed. Please could you name the acharyas that have failed and please state which way they have failed. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> If the Acharya does not follow his dharma then he is excommunicated. I’ve stated that before and I state it again for your sake. Even we all believe this much as Shriji Maharaj has stated so in the Satsangi Jivan and Desh Vibhaag lekh. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> You think there is no Acharya? Well why not? That’s a foolish thing to say as Shriji Maharaj Himself has stated that the Acharya, true Saint, Scriptures and His Murtis which have been installed by Him or invoked by the Dharmvanshi Acharya will remain till the moon and sun shine-‘Yaavat Surya chandra divakale’. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> So you are wrong once again. To state that you do not believe in the existence of the Acharyas is wrong. This even Gunatitanand swami states is wrong to do. Like I quoted from Swamis vato above. Also what faults do you find with Amdavad Acharya Kaushalendraprasad or Vadtal Acharya Rakeshprasadji Maharaj? They have not yet done one thing which is devoid of their Acharya dharmas. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> If you think Nishkulanand swami was correct then why not follow him? You also do not follow Nishkulanand Swamis words as stated earlier this means that you do not care for his word in the Nishkulanand Kavya. You just accept that BAPS saints are clearly shown in the Sikshapatri Bhashya and other scriptures as not following the ways of the Swaminarayan Tyagis rules. First of all you fail against the 4th Prakran of the Satsangi jivan, which states that the Acharya should give diksha to the one who requires to be a Sadhu. Their will never be a case where one has to leave the Satsang at all. Also the Vachnamrut is the Yog Shastra of the Sampraday. The Dharm shastras is the Satsangi Jivan. The Vachnamrut also does not state the four types of Mukts. You need to read the Purshottam Prakash. Maybe they don have it in BAPS because they do not agree with it. So I cant blame you. It clearly shows that the Acharyas give Moksh. This is the fourth way to get moksh. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> By the way I wasn’t comparing ISLAM and BAPS. Please do re read my post carefully. My point was not how great Islam is or how people follow it. My point was that just because so many people follow it does not mean that it is the right way. As you state that many are following BAPS so God must be with it. HAHA. If this was the case then the Swaminarayan Sampraday established by Bhagwan Swaminarayan (*note not BAPS) has over 5.5 million followers and is growing still. BAPS have a little more than 1.7 million. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Another thing I wanted to add was that in Gunatitanand swamis Vato, swami in Vaat 171 states that “the avatars of God previously have never established a tradition of female enunciates and look today there are thousands of female renunciates and today and in the future will give moksh to many”. So where are these female renunciates in BAPS? <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>
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