importance of cusp chart

dear pawan,

In this case mars signifies 6 11 not at all 12.

follow only cusp theory that our guruji told.

prasad

--- pawanlalpurohit <pawanlalpurohit wrote:

> Dear all,

>

> i recently got the opportunity to read an article by

>

> Dr.K.C.Mahapatra of Sambalpur.

> In his article he has given a detalied step by step

> procedure to

> judge a horoscope through KP System, more or less

> like, Mr sunil

> gondhalekar's article, which is availabel in the

> files section of

> our group.

>

> In his article Dr.Mahapatra has given two examples,

> one of judging a

> horary chart and another of a natal chart.

> he has not given the cusp chart of the said

> horoscope, but has

> pridicted only on the basis of rasi chart.

>

> though the outcome, in his example case has come

> true, but i feel if

> he had judged on the basis of cusp (bhav chart),and

> changed position

> of planets, his outcome would have been different.

>

> so please tell me whether we have to see a cusp

> chart in judging a

> horosocpe, for example if suppose mars for gemeni

> ascendent is

> placed in 12th house (tarus), but in his own

> constellation (mrigsira)

> but in the cusp chart it has come to 11th house (own

> house) thus

> strong significator of 11th (aries) and also

> lordship of 6th house.

> then whether mars will give result of 12th house or

> 11th house.

>

> i am asking this doubt, because prior to reading

> Dr.Mahapatra's

> article i had read that planets when change their

> positin in cusp,

> then they will give result of houses they occupy in

> cusp chart.

>

> please throw light on this matter.

>

> Regards,

>

> K.Pawan

>

>

>

>

>

>

I think if the position of Mars planet in degrees and minutes, similarly the

cusp positiions of 11th and 12th in degrees are given, we can easily judge in

which house the planet Mars is placed.

Naidu KP

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dear member

OUR GURUJI HAS SPECIFICALLY TOLD TO TAKE CUSPAL CHART FOR PREDICTION

& THAT TOO WESTERN OR PLACIDUS SYSTEM AS SEMI ARC SYSTEM FAILS

SOMETIMES.IF YOU TAKE RASI CHART FOR PREDICTION IT WILL BE THE SAME

FOR THOSE BORN IN THE SAME SIGN AS LAGNA ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY. WILL

YOU GIVE THE SAME PREDICTION FOR ALL? I HAVE TWINS HOROSCOPE .ONE IS

MARRIED 6 MONTHS BACK.THE OTHER IS YET TO BE MARRIED.CAN YOU ANSWER

WHY?FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE BORN IN THE BEGINNING OF A LAGNA RASI

CHART & CUSPAL CHART ARE SAME . IF YOU PREDICT FOR THEM IT WILL

BECOME TRUE. THE ASTROLOGER MUST BE RUNNING A GOOD TIME THAT

HOROSCOPES HAVING SAME RASI & CUSPAL CHART COME TO HIM.

B.INDIRA

, varaprasad yarlagadda

<prasadgoud77 wrote:

>

> dear pawan,

>

> In this case mars signifies 6 11 not at all 12.

> follow only cusp theory that our guruji told.

>

> prasad

>

> --- pawanlalpurohit <pawanlalpurohit wrote:

>

> > Dear all,

> >

> > i recently got the opportunity to read an article by

> >

> > Dr.K.C.Mahapatra of Sambalpur.

> > In his article he has given a detalied step by step

> > procedure to

> > judge a horoscope through KP System, more or less

> > like, Mr sunil

> > gondhalekar's article, which is availabel in the

> > files section of

> > our group.

> >

> > In his article Dr.Mahapatra has given two examples,

> > one of judging a

> > horary chart and another of a natal chart.

> > he has not given the cusp chart of the said

> > horoscope, but has

> > pridicted only on the basis of rasi chart.

> >

> > though the outcome, in his example case has come

> > true, but i feel if

> > he had judged on the basis of cusp (bhav chart),and

> > changed position

> > of planets, his outcome would have been different.

> >

> > so please tell me whether we have to see a cusp

> > chart in judging a

> > horosocpe, for example if suppose mars for gemeni

> > ascendent is

> > placed in 12th house (tarus), but in his own

> > constellation (mrigsira)

> > but in the cusp chart it has come to 11th house (own

> > house) thus

> > strong significator of 11th (aries) and also

> > lordship of 6th house.

> > then whether mars will give result of 12th house or

> > 11th house.

> >

> > i am asking this doubt, because prior to reading

> > Dr.Mahapatra's

> > article i had read that planets when change their

> > positin in cusp,

> > then they will give result of houses they occupy in

> > cusp chart.

> >

> > please throw light on this matter.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > K.Pawan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

dear member,

in predictive part bhava results are to be seen with bhava chart.

General phenamena is = Rasi tatwa + Graha tatwa + Bhava tatwa is the result of

a planet's action.

Rasi boundaries and bhava boundaries do not coincide in many cases -

In practice besides the Rasi chart bhava chart is drawn - Apparently we fail

to recongnise the bhava boundaries - I mean to say a bhava will get spread into

two rasi signs - partly in each sign.

while studyin the chart we are expected to see in which bhava the planet is

provided and in which rasi same planet is provided.

Example ; in Kp bhava sputa is the begining of a bhava - ex: 18 deg.of gemini

is the begining of 10th cusp and 11th cusp is the 17deg.of cancer. Assume a

planetsay Venus is in 4deg. of cancer.

your analysis should be = 1. Venus in 10th bhava - what should be the result

PLUS Venus in Cancer result =

10th bhava tatwa is qualified by the Gemini rasi tatwa and 10th bhava

karakatwas =plus Venus in Cancer - watery sign etc.,

when we draw a bhava chart we ignore the boundaries of rasi sign - so we are

apparently mis lead for bhava boundaries and rasi boundaries.

sambasiva rao

bindira2003 <bindira2003 wrote: dear member

OUR GURUJI HAS SPECIFICALLY TOLD TO TAKE CUSPAL CHART FOR PREDICTION

& THAT TOO WESTERN OR PLACIDUS SYSTEM AS SEMI ARC SYSTEM FAILS

SOMETIMES.IF YOU TAKE RASI CHART FOR PREDICTION IT WILL BE THE SAME

FOR THOSE BORN IN THE SAME SIGN AS LAGNA ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY. WILL

YOU GIVE THE SAME PREDICTION FOR ALL? I HAVE TWINS HOROSCOPE .ONE IS

MARRIED 6 MONTHS BACK.THE OTHER IS YET TO BE MARRIED.CAN YOU ANSWER

WHY?FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE BORN IN THE BEGINNING OF A LAGNA RASI

CHART & CUSPAL CHART ARE SAME . IF YOU PREDICT FOR THEM IT WILL

BECOME TRUE. THE ASTROLOGER MUST BE RUNNING A GOOD TIME THAT

HOROSCOPES HAVING SAME RASI & CUSPAL CHART COME TO HIM.

B.INDIRA

, varaprasad yarlagadda

<prasadgoud77 wrote:

>

> dear pawan,

>

> In this case mars signifies 6 11 not at all 12.

> follow only cusp theory that our guruji told.

>

> prasad

>

> --- pawanlalpurohit <pawanlalpurohit wrote:

>

> > Dear all,

> >

> > i recently got the opportunity to read an article by

> >

> > Dr.K.C.Mahapatra of Sambalpur.

> > In his article he has given a detalied step by step

> > procedure to

> > judge a horoscope through KP System, more or less

> > like, Mr sunil

> > gondhalekar's article, which is availabel in the

> > files section of

> > our group.

> >

> > In his article Dr.Mahapatra has given two examples,

> > one of judging a

> > horary chart and another of a natal chart.

> > he has not given the cusp chart of the said

> > horoscope, but has

> > pridicted only on the basis of rasi chart.

> >

> > though the outcome, in his example case has come

> > true, but i feel if

> > he had judged on the basis of cusp (bhav chart),and

> > changed position

> > of planets, his outcome would have been different.

> >

> > so please tell me whether we have to see a cusp

> > chart in judging a

> > horosocpe, for example if suppose mars for gemeni

> > ascendent is

> > placed in 12th house (tarus), but in his own

> > constellation (mrigsira)

> > but in the cusp chart it has come to 11th house (own

> > house) thus

> > strong significator of 11th (aries) and also

> > lordship of 6th house.

> > then whether mars will give result of 12th house or

> > 11th house.

> >

> > i am asking this doubt, because prior to reading

> > Dr.Mahapatra's

> > article i had read that planets when change their

> > positin in cusp,

> > then they will give result of houses they occupy in

> > cusp chart.

> >

> > please throw light on this matter.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > K.Pawan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Sambasiva Rao garu,

Very Good clarification on Rasi and Cuspal system in KP. Here I have a doubt

as I am learner.

Venus is, undoubtedly, in 10th House. My doubt is when the 10th House is 18

deg in Gemini and 4 deg in Cancer, who is the Lord of Venus - Merc or Moon ?

Since it is posited in Cancer sign, the Venus sign lord must be Moon only not

Merc, though 10th House of Venus starts from Gemini. Am I right ?

Good Luck

Naidu KP

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Sir,

This is exactly where the beginners are conffused .

While casting the chart - you are arriving at the sign lord , star lord and

sub lord of every planet as per its degree out of 360 degrees in the zodiac -

this is otherwise also called as planetary cusp - Similarly you are arriving

for all 12 bhavas - they are called bhava sputas -

Once the sign lord , star lord and sub lord of Planet OR Bhava is decided it

is valid althrough the readings -

Bhava boundaries are imaginary and are always in almost all case they differ

with natural rasi boundaries -

so you need not change the sign lord , star lord and sub lord of a planet or a

bhava once finalised from the rasi chart -

simple and convenient way is arrive at the Planets' sign lord , star lord and

sub lord from rasi chart and of 12 bhavas from bhava chart after making bhavas

as per KP method.

Another simple way is follow 0 to 360 degrees (cumulative figures) while

arriving at the sign lord , star lord and sub lord of planets -

Hope i have not further confused you, sir

sambasiva rao

" K. P. Naidu " <konathalan wrote: Dear Sambasiva Rao garu,

Very Good clarification on Rasi and Cuspal system in KP. Here I have a doubt

as I am learner.

Venus is, undoubtedly, in 10th House. My doubt is when the 10th House is 18

deg in Gemini and 4 deg in Cancer, who is the Lord of Venus - Merc or Moon ?

Since it is posited in Cancer sign, the Venus sign lord must be Moon only

not Merc, though 10th House of Venus starts from Gemini. Am I right ?

Good Luck

Naidu KP

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Dear K. P. Naidu

In placidus system a house or Bhava starts from

the degrees arising exactly.So venus may be in Moon sign for the

whole month, but when we have to decide who is the house lord,it

should be seen from starting degrees.

In this case, no doubt Moon is the Rasi lord of Venus but 10 th

cuspal lord is Mercury.

Thanks

DKBhaskar

9910048040

, " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan

wrote:

>

> Dear Sambasiva Rao garu,

>

> Very Good clarification on Rasi and Cuspal system in KP. Here I

have a doubt as I am learner.

>

> Venus is, undoubtedly, in 10th House. My doubt is when the 10th

House is 18 deg in Gemini and 4 deg in Cancer, who is the Lord of

Venus - Merc or Moon ?

> Since it is posited in Cancer sign, the Venus sign lord must be

Moon only not Merc, though 10th House of Venus starts from Gemini. Am

I right ?

>

> Good Luck

>

> Naidu KP

>

>

>

> Jiyo cricket on India cricket

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time.

>

>

Dear Bhaskhar Garu,

As I learnt there are Sign Lord (Rasi Lord), Star Lord, Sub Lord and Sub Sub

Lord. There is no Cusp Lord. The Rasi Lord is Cusp Lord. A cusp most often will

have TWO LORDS. Star, Sub and Sub-Sub have only one lord for each.

Now when a cusp has TWO LORDS. which Lord we have two consider depends upon

the position of the Planet.

The learned KP astrologers may kindly throw light on this matter.

Good Luck

Naidu KP.

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