Lord Rama's horoscope (dear balaji, rama and list)

dear friends

lord Rama had punarvaus nakshatra 4th quarter both for lagna and

moon. lagna and moon have to be vargottama in navamsa(the chart for

dharma). otherwise how would he be known for upholding highest course

of dharma? in comparison to sri rama's chart adi shnkaracharya had

his lagna lord moon in 12th. same charts only differenece is the fact

that for rama moon is in lagna with jupiter. for shankaracharya moon

is in 12th house.

regards

partha

vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji>

wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Lord's Janma nakshatra is Punarvasu 4th Pada.

> So what you wrote may be for lagna.

>

> We will await Ramapriya to provide more insight on

> Rama.

>

> warm regards,

> Balaji S.

>

> --- sanjayprabhakaran <s.prabhakaran@h...> wrote:

> > Om Gurave Namah,

> > Dear Ramapriya,

> > I don't know the exact date of birth.

> > But the horoscope is

> > Asc: Cancer

> > Sun: Aries

> > Moon: Cancer

> > Mars: Capricorn :Represents Hanumanji

> > Mercury: Taurus

> > Jupiter: Cancer

> > Venus: Pisces

> > Saturn(Retro): Libra

> > Rahu: Sagittarius : Represents Ravana

> > Ketu: Gemini

> > Tithi of Birth: Shukla Navami

> > Nakshtra: Pushyam:(I am not sure whether it's

> > Janma/Lagna nakshatra)

> >

> > Regards

> > S.Prabhakaran

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "ramapriya_d"

> > <ramapriya_d> wrote:

> > > A lot of references keep being made here to the

> > lord Rama's

> > > horoscope. Could someone please mail me a jhd file

> > of the same?

> > > Please. And how many years ago was he born?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ramapriya

> > > hubli@v...

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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So does that mean having both lagna and moon vargottam tend to lead one to

have highest course of dharma?

This is not a sarcastic question; I realize that ofcourse there would have

to be other factors supporting this quality but is the above one of the

strong indicators of the same?

Best Regards

SA

"partvinu5" <partvinu5 on 12/10/2001 08:09:30 PM

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[vedic astrology] Re: Lord Rama's horoscope (dear balaji, rama

and list)

dear friends

lord Rama had punarvaus nakshatra 4th quarter both for lagna and

moon. lagna and moon have to be vargottama in navamsa(the chart for

dharma). otherwise how would he be known for upholding highest course

of dharma? in comparison to sri rama's chart adi shnkaracharya had

his lagna lord moon in 12th. same charts only differenece is the fact

that for rama moon is in lagna with jupiter. for shankaracharya moon

is in 12th house.

regards

partha

vedic astrology, balaji srinivasan <sri_balaji>

wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Lord's Janma nakshatra is Punarvasu 4th Pada.

> So what you wrote may be for lagna.

>

> We will await Ramapriya to provide more insight on

> Rama.

>

> warm regards,

> Balaji S.

>

> --- sanjayprabhakaran <s.prabhakaran@h...> wrote:

> > Om Gurave Namah,

> > Dear Ramapriya,

> > I don't know the exact date of birth.

> > But the horoscope is

> > Asc: Cancer

> > Sun: Aries

> > Moon: Cancer

> > Mars: Capricorn :Represents Hanumanji

> > Mercury: Taurus

> > Jupiter: Cancer

> > Venus: Pisces

> > Saturn(Retro): Libra

> > Rahu: Sagittarius : Represents Ravana

> > Ketu: Gemini

> > Tithi of Birth: Shukla Navami

> > Nakshtra: Pushyam:(I am not sure whether it's

> > Janma/Lagna nakshatra)

> >

> > Regards

> > S.Prabhakaran

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "ramapriya_d"

> > <ramapriya_d> wrote:

> > > A lot of references keep being made here to the

> > lord Rama's

> > > horoscope. Could someone please mail me a jhd file

> > of the same?

> > > Please. And how many years ago was he born?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ramapriya

> > > hubli@v...

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Your use of is subject to

Dear Partha and others,

Lord Rama had lagna in Punarvasu. But Moon was not in Punarvasu.

Rama was born on Sukla Navami tithi of Chaitra maasa. Sun was in

Aries and Moon was ahead of Sun by an amount between 96 deg and 108

deg (that's the definition of Sukla Navami). Even assuming Sun was at

0 deg in Ar, Moon was between 6 deg and 18 deg in Cancer. Punarvasu

ends at 3 deg 20 min in Cancer. Clearly, Moon was in Pushyami (or

Asresha).

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

> dear friends

> lord Rama had punarvaus nakshatra 4th quarter both for lagna and

> moon. lagna and moon have to be vargottama in navamsa(the chart for

> dharma). otherwise how would he be known for upholding highest

course

> of dharma? in comparison to sri rama's chart adi shnkaracharya had

> his lagna lord moon in 12th. same charts only differenece is the

fact

> that for rama moon is in lagna with jupiter. for shankaracharya

moon

> is in 12th house.

> regards

> partha

Dear PVN,

You have a valid point. Traditional belief is

different but.

Valmiki's sloka says this: ( I got this from web)

---------------------

nakxatre aditi daivatye sva ucCha sa.nstheShu

pa.nchasu |

graheShu kar.hkaTe lagne vaakpataa i.ndunaa saha ||

1-18-9

9.nakshatre= star of the day [being Punarvasu.]

aditi+daivatye= [whose presiding] god is Aditi, [of

punarvasu nakshatra]; swa+uccha+samstheshu= in their

own, highest, positing; panchasu= of five; graheSu=

planets [namely Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and

Venus.] karkaTe+lagne= in Cancer [of Zodiac];

Vaak+patiH= Speech's, Lord [Jupiter]; indunaa+saha=

Moon, along with.

Where the ruling star of the day being punarvasu, and

when five of the nine planets [viz., Sun, Mars,

Jupiter, Saturn, and Venus] are at their highest

positing and when Jupiter is with Moon... [1-18-9]

pra udyamaane jagannaatham sarva loka namaskR^itam |

kausalyaa ajanayat raamam sarva lakSaNa sa.myutam ||

1-18-10

10.pra+udyamane= well, rising [entering Cancer];

jagat+naatham= worlds', lord [Lord Vishnu];

sarva+loka+namaskR^itam= by all, worlds, adored;

Kausalyaa= Queen Kausalya; ajanayat= gave birth;

Raamam= to Rama; divya+lakshana+samyutam= divine,

facets, along with.

And when the Moon is entering the Cancer... Queen

Kausalya gave birth to Rama, who is adored by all the

worlds, and with all the divine facets...[1-18-10]

puShye jaataH tu bharato mIna lagne prasanna dhIH |

saarpe jaatau tu soumitrI kuLIre.abhyudite ravau ||

1-18-15

15. pushye= under Pushyami star; jaataH+tu= born;

Bharata; Miina lagne= in Pisces [of Zodiac];

prasanna+dhiiH= serene, minded; saarpe= under serpent

presiding star [aashresha]; jaatau+tu= born, are;

Soumitrii= sons of Sumitra [Lakshmana, Shatrughna];

kuliire= Cancer [of Zodiac]; abhyudite= with the

arising; ravau= Ravi, the Sun.

Bharata, the serene minded, is born under Pisces where

pushyami is the star of the day. The sons of Sumitra,

namely Lakshmana and Shatrughna are born in the Cancer

itself [like Rama,] where aashresha is the star of the

day and they are born with the rising of the sun.

[1-18-15]

--------------------

Probably the constellations were not of equal size and

later for convenience that was done.

warm regards,

Balaji S.

--- pvr108 <pvr wrote:

> Dear Partha and others,

>

> Lord Rama had lagna in Punarvasu. But Moon was not

> in Punarvasu.

>

> Rama was born on Sukla Navami tithi of Chaitra

> maasa. Sun was in

> Aries and Moon was ahead of Sun by an amount between

> 96 deg and 108

> deg (that's the definition of Sukla Navami). Even

> assuming Sun was at

> 0 deg in Ar, Moon was between 6 deg and 18 deg in

> Cancer. Punarvasu

> ends at 3 deg 20 min in Cancer. Clearly, Moon was in

> Pushyami (or

> Asresha).

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > dear friends

> > lord Rama had punarvaus nakshatra 4th quarter both

> for lagna and

> > moon. lagna and moon have to be vargottama in

> navamsa(the chart for

> > dharma). otherwise how would he be known for

> upholding highest

> course

> > of dharma? in comparison to sri rama's chart adi

> shnkaracharya had

> > his lagna lord moon in 12th. same charts only

> differenece is the

> fact

> > that for rama moon is in lagna with jupiter. for

> shankaracharya

> moon

> > is in 12th house.

> > regards

> > partha

>

>

>

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Dear friends,

Valmiki only said Sri Rama was born in the nakshatra ruled by Aditi

(Punarvasu nakshatra). He did not say that Moon was in that nakshatra

(nor did he say "in the _day_ ruled by nakshatra").

What is the meaning of a person being born in a nakshatra? Should it

always refer to Moon's nakshatra? If lagna is stronger than Moon,

won't lagna's nakshatra become more important?

Sri Rama was born on Sukla Navami tithi with exalted Sun. So Moon can

only be in Pushyami or Asresha. Period. Read my earlier post for the

logic.

He had lagna in Punarvasu nakshatra (4th quarter), closely conjoined

by Jupiter. Lagna nakshatra was hence more important than Chandra

nakshatra.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

> Dear PVN,

>

> You have a valid point. Traditional belief is

> different but.

>

> Valmiki's sloka says this: ( I got this from web)

>

> ---------------------

> nakxatre aditi daivatye sva ucCha sa.nstheShu

> pa.nchasu |

> graheShu kar.hkaTe lagne vaakpataa i.ndunaa saha ||

> 1-18-9

>

> 9.nakshatre= star of the day [being Punarvasu.]

> aditi+daivatye= [whose presiding] god is Aditi, [of

> punarvasu nakshatra]; swa+uccha+samstheshu= in their

Dear friends,

In the explanation i provided, Bharatha was born in

pushya and his lagna is meena. So, the explanation on

lagna nakshatra is not correct.

Janma nakshatra always refers to moon and not based on

which is stronger - moon or lagna.

Please read my previous post on this.

warm regards,

Balaji S>

--- pvr108 <pvr wrote:

> Dear friends,

>

> Valmiki only said Sri Rama was born in the nakshatra

> ruled by Aditi

> (Punarvasu nakshatra). He did not say that Moon was

> in that nakshatra

> (nor did he say "in the _day_ ruled by nakshatra").

>

> What is the meaning of a person being born in a

> nakshatra? Should it

> always refer to Moon's nakshatra? If lagna is

> stronger than Moon,

> won't lagna's nakshatra become more important?

>

> Sri Rama was born on Sukla Navami tithi with exalted

> Sun. So Moon can

> only be in Pushyami or Asresha. Period. Read my

> earlier post for the

> logic.

>

> He had lagna in Punarvasu nakshatra (4th quarter),

> closely conjoined

> by Jupiter. Lagna nakshatra was hence more important

> than Chandra

> nakshatra.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Dear PVN,

> >

> > You have a valid point. Traditional belief is

> > different but.

> >

> > Valmiki's sloka says this: ( I got this from web)

> >

> >

>

---------------------

> > nakxatre aditi daivatye sva ucCha sa.nstheShu

> > pa.nchasu |

> > graheShu kar.hkaTe lagne vaakpataa i.ndunaa saha

> ||

> > 1-18-9

> >

> > 9.nakshatre= star of the day [being Punarvasu.]

> > aditi+daivatye= [whose presiding] god is Aditi,

> [of

> > punarvasu nakshatra]; swa+uccha+samstheshu= in

> their

>

>

>

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Dear Balaji,

I did not say that janma nakshatra means lagna's nakshatra. In fact,

Valmiki did not even use the term "janma nakshatra". He only said

Rama was born in Punarvasu nakshatra. If Bharata's nakshatra

mentioned by Valmiki was Moon's nakshatra, it does not mean so was

Rama's.

If somebody has a stronger Moon, Moon's nakshatra is the most

important and used in Vimsottari dasa etc. We then say that the

native is "born in" that nakshatra. OTOH, if somebody has a stronger

lagna, lagna's nakshatra is the most important nakshatra and it is

used in Vimsottari dasa etc. Then we may say that the native was born

in that nakshatra. The nakshatra mentioned by Valmiki for Rama can be

lagna nakshatra and the one mentioned for Bharata can be Chandra

nakshatra.

Because of the corruptions in astrological knowledge in Kali yuga

(e.g. importance of lagna nakshatra and lagna Vimsottari dasa are

forgotten), people take a simplistic interpretation of what Valmiki

wrote. If one is born with exalted Sun on Chaitra Sukla Navami, he

can NOT have Moon in Punarvasu. Period. Valmiki is a great sage and

he cannot have miscalculated anything. Search for an alternative

explanation.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

> Dear friends,

>

> In the explanation i provided, Bharatha was born in

> pushya and his lagna is meena. So, the explanation on

> lagna nakshatra is not correct.

>

> Janma nakshatra always refers to moon and not based on

> which is stronger - moon or lagna.

>

> Please read my previous post on this.

>

> warm regards,

> Balaji S>

Dear PVN,

I am still going by MY BELIEF in punarvasu as his

birth star (star which moon occupies). If Kali yuga

makes me thinks so, let it be.

Thanks for your time.

warm regards,

Balaji S.

--- pvr108 <pvr wrote:

> Dear Balaji,

>

> I did not say that janma nakshatra means lagna's

> nakshatra. In fact,

> Valmiki did not even use the term "janma nakshatra".

> He only said

> Rama was born in Punarvasu nakshatra. If Bharata's

> nakshatra

> mentioned by Valmiki was Moon's nakshatra, it does

> not mean so was

> Rama's.

>

> If somebody has a stronger Moon, Moon's nakshatra is

> the most

> important and used in Vimsottari dasa etc. We then

> say that the

> native is "born in" that nakshatra. OTOH, if

> somebody has a stronger

> lagna, lagna's nakshatra is the most important

> nakshatra and it is

> used in Vimsottari dasa etc. Then we may say that

> the native was born

> in that nakshatra. The nakshatra mentioned by

> Valmiki for Rama can be

> lagna nakshatra and the one mentioned for Bharata

> can be Chandra

> nakshatra.

>

> Because of the corruptions in astrological knowledge

> in Kali yuga

> (e.g. importance of lagna nakshatra and lagna

> Vimsottari dasa are

> forgotten), people take a simplistic interpretation

> of what Valmiki

> wrote. If one is born with exalted Sun on Chaitra

> Sukla Navami, he

> can NOT have Moon in Punarvasu. Period. Valmiki is a

> great sage and

> he cannot have miscalculated anything. Search for an

> alternative

> explanation.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > In the explanation i provided, Bharatha was born

> in

> > pushya and his lagna is meena. So, the

> explanation on

> > lagna nakshatra is not correct.

> >

> > Janma nakshatra always refers to moon and not

> based on

> > which is stronger - moon or lagna.

> >

> > Please read my previous post on this.

> >

> > warm regards,

> > Balaji S>

>

>

>

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Namaste friends,

Valmiki's expression 'naavamike tithou' has been interpreted by some to

mean the day which has both ashtami and navami (ashtami at sunrise,

navami at sunset), based on grammatical rules (use of thak pratyaya).

I read this in Ramayana Rahasya Darshini authored by Sri Malladi

Chandrasekhara Sastry in Telugu.

In a different context, I have seen posts on this list about the

interpretation of Lagnamsa vs Lagnamsaka, Karakamsa vs Karakamsaka.

regards,

Krishna.

balaji srinivasan wrote:

> Dear PVN,

>

> I am still going by MY BELIEF in punarvasu as his

> birth star (star which moon occupies). If Kali yuga

> makes me thinks so, let it be.

>

> Thanks for your time.

>

> warm regards,

> Balaji S.

>

>

> --- pvr108 <pvr wrote:

>

>>Dear Balaji,

>>

>>I did not say that janma nakshatra means lagna's

>>nakshatra. In fact,

>>Valmiki did not even use the term "janma nakshatra".

>>He only said

>>Rama was born in Punarvasu nakshatra. If Bharata's

>>nakshatra

>>mentioned by Valmiki was Moon's nakshatra, it does

>>not mean so was

>>Rama's.

>>

>>If somebody has a stronger Moon, Moon's nakshatra is

>>the most

>>important and used in Vimsottari dasa etc. We then

>>say that the

>>native is "born in" that nakshatra. OTOH, if

>>somebody has a stronger

>>lagna, lagna's nakshatra is the most important

>>nakshatra and it is

>>used in Vimsottari dasa etc. Then we may say that

>>the native was born

>>in that nakshatra. The nakshatra mentioned by

>>Valmiki for Rama can be

>>lagna nakshatra and the one mentioned for Bharata

>>can be Chandra

>>nakshatra.

>>

>>Because of the corruptions in astrological knowledge

>>in Kali yuga

>>(e.g. importance of lagna nakshatra and lagna

>>Vimsottari dasa are

>>forgotten), people take a simplistic interpretation

>>of what Valmiki

>>wrote. If one is born with exalted Sun on Chaitra

>>Sukla Navami, he

>>can NOT have Moon in Punarvasu. Period. Valmiki is a

>>great sage and

>>he cannot have miscalculated anything. Search for an

>>alternative

>>explanation.

>>

>>May Jupiter's light shine on us,

>>Narasimha

>>

>>

>>>Dear friends,

>>>

>>>In the explanation i provided, Bharatha was born

>>>

>>in

>>

>>>pushya and his lagna is meena. So, the

>>>

>>explanation on

>>

>>>lagna nakshatra is not correct.

>>>

>>>Janma nakshatra always refers to moon and not

>>>

>>based on

>>

>>>which is stronger - moon or lagna.

>>>

>>>Please read my previous post on this.

>>>

>>>warm regards,

>>>Balaji S>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

>

Dear Narasimha,

> If one is born with exalted Sun on Chaitra Sukla Navami, he

> can NOT have Moon in Punarvasu.

What is the impact of Suklantha/Amantha in this regard?

What if we consider Suklantha?.

Best Regards, VR

> Period. Valmiki is a great sage and

> he cannot have miscalculated anything. Search for an alternative

> explanation.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Jyotisha,

Namaste.

> > Sri Rama was born on Sukla Navami tithi with exalted Sun. So Moon can >

only be in Pushyami or Asresha. Period. Read my earlier post for the > logic.>

I'm trying to approach the question from a different point of view. Sanjayji

taught that Lagna Nakshatra will indicate the native's intelligence, while the

Janma Nakshatra will indicate his mindset. If we assume that Rama's Lagna was

in Punarvasu and Moon in Pushya, this I think is acceptable, as there's a lot

of similarity between the two Nakshatras, while Aslesha is quite different.

Let's see some of them:

Nakshatra Symbol Deity Caste Guna Sex Gana Circle

Punarvasu Bow Aditi Vaisya Sattva Male Deva

Vayu

Pushya Arrow Brihaspati Ksatriya Tamas Male Deva Agni

Aslesha Snake Naga Outcaste Sattva Female Raksasa Varuna

So according to my opinion, Punarvasu and Pushya are likely, however Aslesha not

so much. So taking into consideration what Narasimha says, I would allow for the

possibility that Lord Rama had Moon in Pushya Nakshatra, because He was a

Kshatriya, although the Lagna in general would definitely indicate a brahmin.

He was expert at using bows and arrows, and was confronted with the Tamas

represented by Ravana. Agni Tattwa would also be nicely expressed in His lila

of crossing over the ocean to get to Lanka. Soi I definitely think that Pushya

Nakshatra has a chance to become His Janma Nakshatra, even if it's not as

prominent as Punarvasu, which is stronger.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> Phone:

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Dear Gauranga,

We should accept the traditional belief on Rama and

not try to fit a new finding. Lord didn't burn up the

ocean. If that is the case, then agni tattwa is fine.

Actually he took the help of Hanuman in his leela of

crossing the ocean who is the son of vayu. I am not

trying to talk of vayu tattwa here and establish

punarvasu.

Rama has exalted Mars and that itself is enough to

make him a good general. We need not look at star's

caste to establish that.

Let us forget our own theories and worship Rama.

warm regards,

Balaji S.

--- Gauranga Das <gauranga wrote:

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Jyotisha,

>

> Namaste.

>

> >

> > Sri Rama was born on Sukla Navami tithi with

> exalted Sun. So Moon can

> > only be in Pushyami or Asresha. Period. Read my

> earlier post for the

> > logic.

> >

>

> I'm trying to approach the question from a different

> point of view. Sanjayji taught that Lagna Nakshatra

> will indicate the native's intelligence, while the

> Janma Nakshatra will indicate his mindset. If we

> assume that Rama's Lagna was in Punarvasu and Moon

> in Pushya, this I think is acceptable, as there's a

> lot of similarity between the two Nakshatras, while

> Aslesha is quite different. Let's see some of them:

>

> Nakshatra Symbol Deity Caste Guna Sex

> Gana Circle

>

> Punarvasu Bow Aditi Vaisya

> Sattva Male Deva Vayu

> Pushya Arrow Brihaspati Ksatriya Tamas

> Male Deva Agni

> Aslesha Snake Naga Outcaste Sattva

> Female Raksasa Varuna

>

> So according to my opinion, Punarvasu and Pushya are

> likely, however Aslesha not so much. So taking into

> consideration what Narasimha says, I would allow for

> the possibility that Lord Rama had Moon in Pushya

> Nakshatra, because He was a Kshatriya, although the

> Lagna in general would definitely indicate a

> brahmin. He was expert at using bows and arrows, and

> was confronted with the Tamas represented by Ravana.

> Agni Tattwa would also be nicely expressed in His

> lila of crossing over the ocean to get to Lanka. Soi

> I definitely think that Pushya Nakshatra has a

> chance to become His Janma Nakshatra, even if it's

> not as prominent as Punarvasu, which is stronger.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> <gauranga

> Phone: +36-309-140-839

> Jyotish Remedies:

> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

>

>

>

>

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Hi Every One,

I am a new guy to this forum, so i dont know where to post my question. Please excuse me if i am wrong.

I just want a small information , as Mr. Krishna Padmasola stated that he read Ramayana Rahasya Darshini authored by Sri Malladi Chandrasekhara Sastry in Telugu. I just wanted to know where can i find the book to buy.

I searched in max places and i am unable to find . So , please help me.

Thanking You,

Raghu.