Guest guest Report post Posted May 21, 2006 dear shiv bhakts om namo bhagawate rudraya there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga mani. here is the latest story heard by me last week. an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after completion of 100 living years and then preserves it within its throat. when it wants to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani on a rock or on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red light. then whatever animals that come close to it or found in that light are eaten by this nag. according to hindu mythology, there is a separate nagalok and snakes as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as they like. this has been writeen in various classics. scientists also proved that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen for several months in hibernation. also snakes are the only creatures other than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact snakes get thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who strive with ghora sadhana. the person who wish to get this naga mani does like this. when he spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and was sure about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large iron tavva or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then the nag bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till its last breath to get that mani and does not go away without getting the mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying to get it back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it till it dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image would be caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards would hunt that person and kills. so he shall mask while collecting this naga mani after the death of the nag. in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i found a person in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this priceless naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in any open area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, the entire area would be illuminated with red light naturally emanating from this naga mani. even though that person is not willing to sell it, he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two million rupees would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 Mobile 9899860935 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 21, 2006 Dear group members! namaskar! before making fool of urself by running after nagamanis, plz read this :- http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1486401,00180008.htm a nagamani is not an gemstone..which one can find too easily... thanks amit uniyal www.devshoppe.com , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > dear shiv bhakts > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga mani. here > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after completion of 100 > living years and then preserves it within its throat. when it wants > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani on a rock or > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red light. then > whatever animals that come close to it or found in that light are > eaten by this nag. > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate nagalok and snakes > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as they like. > this has been writeen in various classics. scientists also proved > that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen for several > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only creatures other > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact snakes get > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who strive with > ghora sadhana. > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like this. when he > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and was sure > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large iron tavva > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then the nag > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till its last > breath to get that mani and does not go away without getting the > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying to get it > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it till it > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image would be > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards would hunt > that person and kills. so he shall mask while collecting this naga > mani after the death of the nag. > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i found a person > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this priceless > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in any open > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, the entire > area would be illuminated with red light naturally emanating from > this naga mani. even though that person is not willing to sell it, > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two million rupees > would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > Mobile 9899860935 > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 22, 2006 nice story. nagamani is also in our body. the process to get nagamani is aso simple. nagamani is in throat chakra. better activation of throat chakra will bring nagamani. namasivayam --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: > dear shiv bhakts > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic > naga mani. here > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after > completion of 100 > living years and then preserves it within its > throat. when it wants > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the > mani on a rock or > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in > red light. then > whatever animals that come close to it or found in > that light are > eaten by this nag. > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate > nagalok and snakes > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form > as they like. > this has been writeen in various classics. > scientists also proved > that snakes alone can stay under ground without > oxygen for several > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only > creatures other > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in > fact snakes get > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who > strive with > ghora sadhana. > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like > this. when he > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area > and was sure > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a > large iron tavva > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. > then the nag > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries > till its last > breath to get that mani and does not go away without > getting the > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep > trying to get it > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove > it till it > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image > would be > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes > afterwards would hunt > that person and kills. so he shall mask while > collecting this naga > mani after the death of the nag. > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i > found a person > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have > this priceless > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is > kept in any open > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya > night, the entire > area would be illuminated with red light naturally > emanating from > this naga mani. even though that person is not > willing to sell it, > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two > million rupees > would make him rethink on his giving away of this > item. > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 22, 2006 dear shiv bhakt amit ji om namo bhagawate rudraya there are rotten fruits in each type of fruit. there are fake tantriks and astrologers who were caught by TV channels and are behind bars. there are fake rudraksha sellers at all pilgrim centres. similarly there are fake doctors and fakes in each and every commodity including medicines. they does not make one cynical. these fake incidents themselves do not harm but the cynical negative campaign by few pessimistic people who try to create a mountain out of a mole cause more harm. please try to have a positive outlook and positive approach whenever a person wish to throw more light on sacred items, especially rare items. we shiv bhakts are all here to share knowledge and information on various issues related to lord shiva and since nag is called shankarabharanam or shiva wears the nag as an ornament and i have seen myself the mythical seshnag several times enroute Amarnath. similarly i was sharing the information as i received on naga mani. by lord shiva's grace i may have a darshan of the same and wish to take photograph and share with other shiv bhakts. as regards naga mani is concerned, i clearly mentioned that i heard this "story" about a man in possession of this and have not yet seen. i sought an appointment myself to have a darshan of the same and shall share further information on that also. as you rightly observed, nagamani is a soft radiant gem (not stone). if a particular item is not easily available it does not mean it is extinct. because of the rarity the price increases and the purchaser profusely thanks the seller for making available any rarest extinct holy objects. in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 Mobile 9899860935 "amit uniyal" <devshoppe > Mon May 22, 2006 1:51 am Re: naga mani devshoppe Dear group members! namaskar! before making fool of urself by running after nagamanis, plz read this :- http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1486401,00180008.htm a nagamani is not an gemstone..which one can find too easily... thanks amit uniyal www.devshoppe.com , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > dear shiv bhakts > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga mani. here > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after completion of 100 > living years and then preserves it within its throat. when it wants > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani on a rock or > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red light. then > whatever animals that come close to it or found in that light are > eaten by this nag. > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate nagalok and snakes > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as they like. > this has been writeen in various classics. scientists also proved > that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen for several > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only creatures other > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact snakes get > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who strive with > ghora sadhana. > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like this. when he > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and was sure > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large iron tavva > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then the nag > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till its last > breath to get that mani and does not go away without getting the > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying to get it > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it till it > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image would be > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards would hunt > that person and kills. so he shall mask while collecting this naga > mani after the death of the nag. > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i found a person > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this priceless > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in any open > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, the entire > area would be illuminated with red light naturally emanating from > this naga mani. even though that person is not willing to sell it, > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two million rupees > would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > Mobile 9899860935 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 22, 2006 Dear sri arjun ji, Sadar pranam! It seems u have taken my message personally...the message i posted was just to create awareness among the members that what happened to one person can happen to them too. Nw a days , they put a LED light inside these soo called manis which gets charged with sun rays and shine till back up lasts. Check this image:- http://ph./photos/view/5 f07?b=1 this is 100% fake soo called nagamani... By posting this message i never meant that it doesnt exsists....it is there in this world itself..but its not that u take a tawa and went to jungle...climb up a tree and get it...wow ...soo simple!!! U tried to put up light on an sacred object and if someone tries to share his thoughts...then whats the problem...after all we all have our opinions and views...and the link i gave ..i havent made the story myself...its published in one of the biggest daily newspapers...what happened to one man can happen to another... Nagamani is not a gomed or pukhraj so that any1 can get... Ofcourse only when Lord shiva wants to give it to some1...he will get it. I m sorry if my message pinched u in anyway...my intentions were not to create the debate... thanks amit uniyal www.devshoppe.com , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > dear shiv bhakt amit ji > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > there are rotten fruits in each type of fruit. > > there are fake tantriks and astrologers who were caught by TV > channels and are behind bars. > > there are fake rudraksha sellers at all pilgrim centres. > > similarly there are fake doctors and fakes in each and every > commodity including medicines. they does not make one cynical. > > these fake incidents themselves do not harm but the cynical negative > campaign by few pessimistic people who try to create a mountain out > of a mole cause more harm. > > please try to have a positive outlook and positive approach whenever > a person wish to throw more light on sacred items, especially rare > items. we shiv bhakts are all here to share knowledge and > information on various issues related to lord shiva and since nag is > called shankarabharanam or shiva wears the nag as an ornament and i > have seen myself the mythical seshnag several times enroute > Amarnath. similarly i was sharing the information as i received on > naga mani. by lord shiva's grace i may have a darshan of the same > and wish to take photograph and share with other shiv bhakts. > > as regards naga mani is concerned, i clearly mentioned that i heard > this "story" about a man in possession of this and have not yet > seen. i sought an appointment myself to have a darshan of the same > and shall share further information on that also. > > as you rightly observed, nagamani is a soft radiant gem (not > stone). > > if a particular item is not easily available it does not mean it is > extinct. because of the rarity the price increases and the > purchaser profusely thanks the seller for making available any > rarest extinct holy objects. > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > Mobile 9899860935 > > > "amit uniyal" <devshoppe> > Mon May 22, 2006 1:51 am > Re: naga mani devshoppe > > Dear group members! > namaskar! before making fool of urself by running after nagamanis, > plz read this :- > http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1486401,00180008.htm > > a nagamani is not an gemstone..which one can find too easily... > thanks > amit uniyal > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga mani. > here > > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after completion of 100 > > living years and then preserves it within its throat. when it > wants > > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani on a rock > or > > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red light. then > > whatever animals that come close to it or found in that light are > > eaten by this nag. > > > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate nagalok and > snakes > > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as they like. > > this has been writeen in various classics. scientists also proved > > that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen for several > > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only creatures other > > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact snakes > get > > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who strive with > > ghora sadhana. > > > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like this. when he > > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and was sure > > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large iron tavva > > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then the nag > > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till its last > > breath to get that mani and does not go away without getting the > > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying to get it > > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it till it > > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image would be > > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards would > hunt > > that person and kills. so he shall mask while collecting this > naga > > mani after the death of the nag. > > > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i found a > person > > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this priceless > > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in any open > > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, the > entire > > area would be illuminated with red light naturally emanating from > > this naga mani. even though that person is not willing to sell > it, > > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two million > rupees > > would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > Mobile 9899860935 > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 22, 2006 Greeting sri amit ji, Kindly take note that all are not fakes. There are some real to. I have personly seen one Real Naga Mani. I have also seen how they take the Naga Mani from the snake. Like Mr Richard said " It is said that this jewel is present on the mouth of a snake. Its light shows the snake its way even in pitch darkness. When the snake senses some danger, it at once swallows the jewel. But it is said that all the snakes do not have this jewel. Only a few, privileged ones have it on their hoods. Naga Mani is said to be extremely expensive. If someone wishes to get it, he has to face lot of dangers. Thus, those who wish to possess Naga Mani first of all locate the right kind of snake that actually has the jewel. Then they chase the snake day and night continuously. Now, as soon as the snake puts the jewel out, it is covered with a blanket. Not seeing the light of the jewel, the snake naturally feels perplexed and in a way 'commits suicide' by beating its hood on the ground. But this whole venture is very risky." I saw this venture with my own eyes. This happend in the village in india. The heads of the village did not allow me to take a photo because it has to returned to the village temple. I did tell the villagers that i can offer 5 million rupees for the Naga Mani but they told me that it was for the god not for you. They also said that god has chosen you to bring the Naga Mani to their temple. Thats why they even ask their mans to help me get this rare Naga Mani. So there is real Naga Mani around but most are unknown. Thank you With Best Regards, Ravan amit uniyal <devshoppe > wrote: Dear sri arjun ji, Sadar pranam! It seems u have taken my message personally...the message i posted was just to create awareness among the members that what happened to one person can happen to them too. Nw a days , they put a LED light inside these soo called manis which gets charged with sun rays and shine till back up lasts. Check this image:- http://ph./photos/view/5 f07?b=1 this is 100% fake soo called nagamani... By posting this message i never meant that it doesnt exsists....it is there in this world itself..but its not that u take a tawa and went to jungle...climb up a tree and get it...wow ...soo simple!!! U tried to put up light on an sacred object and if someone tries to share his thoughts...then whats the problem...after all we all have our opinions and views...and the link i gave ..i havent made the story myself...its published in one of the biggest daily newspapers...what happened to one man can happen to another... Nagamani is not a gomed or pukhraj so that any1 can get... Ofcourse only when Lord shiva wants to give it to some1...he will get it. I m sorry if my message pinched u in anyway...my intentions were not to create the debate... thanks amit uniyal www.devshoppe.com , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear shiv bhakt amit ji > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > there are rotten fruits in each type of fruit. > > there are fake tantriks and astrologers who were caught by TV > channels and are behind bars. > > there are fake rudraksha sellers at all pilgrim centres. > > similarly there are fake doctors and fakes in each and every > commodity including medicines. they does not make one cynical. > > these fake incidents themselves do not harm but the cynical negative > campaign by few pessimistic people who try to create a mountain out > of a mole cause more harm. > > please try to have a positive outlook and positive approach whenever > a person wish to throw more light on sacred items, especially rare > items. we shiv bhakts are all here to share knowledge and > information on various issues related to lord shiva and since nag is > called shankarabharanam or shiva wears the nag as an ornament and i > have seen myself the mythical seshnag several times enroute > Amarnath. similarly i was sharing the information as i received on > naga mani. by lord shiva's grace i may have a darshan of the same > and wish to take photograph and share with other shiv bhakts. > > as regards naga mani is concerned, i clearly mentioned that i heard > this "story" about a man in possession of this and have not yet > seen. i sought an appointment myself to have a darshan of the same > and shall share further information on that also. > > as you rightly observed, nagamani is a soft radiant gem (not > stone). > > if a particular item is not easily available it does not mean it is > extinct. because of the rarity the price increases and the > purchaser profusely thanks the seller for making available any > rarest extinct holy objects. > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > Mobile 9899860935 > > > "amit uniyal" <devshoppe > Mon May 22, 2006 1:51 am > Re: naga mani devshoppe > > Dear group members! > namaskar! before making fool of urself by running after nagamanis, > plz read this :- > http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1486401,00180008.htm > > a nagamani is not an gemstone..which one can find too easily... > thanks > amit uniyal > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga mani. > here > > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after completion of 100 > > living years and then preserves it within its throat. when it > wants > > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani on a rock > or > > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red light. then > > whatever animals that come close to it or found in that light are > > eaten by this nag. > > > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate nagalok and > snakes > > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as they like. > > this has been writeen in various classics. scientists also proved > > that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen for several > > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only creatures other > > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact snakes > get > > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who strive with > > ghora sadhana. > > > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like this. when he > > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and was sure > > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large iron tavva > > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then the nag > > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till its last > > breath to get that mani and does not go away without getting the > > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying to get it > > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it till it > > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image would be > > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards would > hunt > > that person and kills. so he shall mask while collecting this > naga > > mani after the death of the nag. > > > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i found a > person > > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this priceless > > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in any open > > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, the > entire > > area would be illuminated with red light naturally emanating from > > this naga mani. even though that person is not willing to sell > it, > > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two million > rupees > > would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > Mobile 9899860935 > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 22, 2006 Hi Arjun Pandit Kya baath Hain......To get a Naga Mani ..one has to kill brutally a NAG ...this is INHUMAN and really condemed by Hinduism ,,,,,,,,,,what is the need of a Naga Mani when we have a MANI which is 10,0000000000000000000000000000000000000 folds greater than a NAGA MANI >>>>>> THE PANCHAKSHARI MANTRA >>>>> It is said that the passion to posess a NAGA MAN|I itself is harmful to the VAMSAM ( family ) .....if it is in our fait then the MANA itself will be coming to our hands with out any afforts .... all these ...Let us hail SIVA >>>>>AND PANCHAKSHARI........... To lett you know there are several Myths and stories about Snakes ....Yes I do Believe in these ......I have never witnessed but my Aunt and my father say that they used to have a snake bill in their house in AMALAPURAM and when ever my father's grandfather used to sit in a swinging chair hang to the sealing the snake used to come and sit at the top of the swing .....emmm really some what not to our imagination.....when the grandfather was dead the snake never appeared again.........well there is some mystic about these snakes but involving into snakes stuff is always danger ......Bhakthi towards them is Perfectly alright but to acquire a NAGA MANI ,,,,DANGER MAN ... well that's it Bbye Sampath --- nama siva <nama_sivam > wrote: > nice story. > nagamani is also in our body. > the process to get nagamani is aso simple. > nagamani is in throat chakra. > better activation of throat chakra will bring > nagamani. > namasivayam > > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > > wrote: > > > dear shiv bhakts > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic > > naga mani. here > > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after > > completion of 100 > > living years and then preserves it within its > > throat. when it wants > > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the > > mani on a rock or > > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in > > red light. then > > whatever animals that come close to it or found in > > that light are > > eaten by this nag. > > > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate > > nagalok and snakes > > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form > > as they like. > > this has been writeen in various classics. > > scientists also proved > > that snakes alone can stay under ground without > > oxygen for several > > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only > > creatures other > > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. > in > > fact snakes get > > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans > who > > strive with > > ghora sadhana. > > > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does > like > > this. when he > > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open > area > > and was sure > > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a > > large iron tavva > > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. > > then the nag > > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries > > till its last > > breath to get that mani and does not go away > without > > getting the > > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep > > trying to get it > > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to > remove > > it till it > > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his > image > > would be > > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes > > afterwards would hunt > > that person and kills. so he shall mask while > > collecting this naga > > mani after the death of the nag. > > > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week > i > > found a person > > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to > have > > this priceless > > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is > > kept in any open > > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya > > night, the entire > > area would be illuminated with red light naturally > > emanating from > > this naga mani. even though that person is not > > willing to sell it, > > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or > two > > million rupees > > would make him rethink on his giving away of this > > item. > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 22, 2006 Dear sri ravan ji, Sadar pranam! sir, kindly read my message again...i have written that yes nagamanis are present in this world...but real ones r almost very very rare and hard to find... Lot of these available for sale are fakes and u can c the pic i have uploaded in this group photos.... I m not in anyway against the good material or knowledge to be shared...all i want is to make people aware that such con sellers are also there and they shud take extra precaution if they r going to buy one... Moreover, i dont believe that any1 having genuine nagamani will ever try to sell it.......who will want money for it when it itself is known to bring immense wealth and luck. So, in no way i m against good knowledge sharing , all i want is to advice my friends that take extra care when dealing with it.. Thanks amit uniyal , spskathiravan ravan <bb_22_72> wrote: > > Greeting sri amit ji, > > Kindly take note that all are not fakes. There are some real to. I have personly seen one Real Naga Mani. I have also seen how they take the Naga Mani from the snake. Like Mr Richard said " > > It is said that this jewel is present on the mouth of a snake. Its light shows the snake its way even in pitch darkness. When the snake senses some danger, it at once swallows the jewel. But it is said that all the snakes do not have this jewel. Only a few, privileged ones have it on their hoods. Naga Mani is said to be extremely expensive. If someone wishes to get it, he has to face lot of dangers. Thus, those who wish to possess Naga Mani first of all locate the right kind of snake that actually has the jewel. Then they chase the snake day and night continuously. Now, as soon as the snake puts the jewel out, it is covered with a blanket. Not seeing the light of the jewel, the snake naturally feels perplexed and in a way 'commits suicide' by beating its hood on the ground. But this whole venture is very risky." > > I saw this venture with my own eyes. This happend in the village in india. The heads of the village did not allow me to take a photo because it has to returned to the village temple. I did tell the villagers that i can offer 5 million rupees for the Naga Mani but they told me that it was for the god not for you. They also said that god has chosen you to bring the Naga Mani to their temple. Thats why they even ask their mans to help me get this rare Naga Mani. > > So there is real Naga Mani around but most are unknown. > > Thank you > With Best Regards, > Ravan > > > amit uniyal <devshoppe> wrote: > Dear sri arjun ji, > Sadar pranam! > It seems u have taken my message personally...the message i posted > was just to create awareness among the members that what happened to > one person can happen to them too. > Nw a days , they put a LED light inside these soo called manis which > gets charged with sun rays and shine till back up lasts. > Check this image:- > http://ph./photos/view/5 > f07?b=1 > > this is 100% fake soo called nagamani... > By posting this message i never meant that it doesnt exsists....it > is there in this world itself..but its not that u take a tawa and > went to jungle...climb up a tree and get it...wow ...soo simple!!! > > > U tried to put up light on an sacred object and if someone tries to > share his thoughts...then whats the problem...after all we all have > our opinions and views...and the link i gave ..i havent made the > story myself...its published in one of the biggest daily > newspapers...what happened to one man can happen to another... > > Nagamani is not a gomed or pukhraj so that any1 can get... > Ofcourse only when Lord shiva wants to give it to some1...he will > get it. > > I m sorry if my message pinched u in anyway...my intentions were not > to create the debate... > thanks > amit uniyal > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear shiv bhakt amit ji > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > there are rotten fruits in each type of fruit. > > > > there are fake tantriks and astrologers who were caught by TV > > channels and are behind bars. > > > > there are fake rudraksha sellers at all pilgrim centres. > > > > similarly there are fake doctors and fakes in each and every > > commodity including medicines. they does not make one cynical. > > > > these fake incidents themselves do not harm but the cynical > negative > > campaign by few pessimistic people who try to create a mountain > out > > of a mole cause more harm. > > > > please try to have a positive outlook and positive approach > whenever > > a person wish to throw more light on sacred items, especially rare > > items. we shiv bhakts are all here to share knowledge and > > information on various issues related to lord shiva and since nag > is > > called shankarabharanam or shiva wears the nag as an ornament and > i > > have seen myself the mythical seshnag several times enroute > > Amarnath. similarly i was sharing the information as i received > on > > naga mani. by lord shiva's grace i may have a darshan of the same > > and wish to take photograph and share with other shiv bhakts. > > > > as regards naga mani is concerned, i clearly mentioned that i > heard > > this "story" about a man in possession of this and have not yet > > seen. i sought an appointment myself to have a darshan of the > same > > and shall share further information on that also. > > > > as you rightly observed, nagamani is a soft radiant gem (not > > stone). > > > > if a particular item is not easily available it does not mean it > is > > extinct. because of the rarity the price increases and the > > purchaser profusely thanks the seller for making available any > > rarest extinct holy objects. > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > "amit uniyal" <devshoppe@> > > Mon May 22, 2006 1:51 am > > Re: naga mani devshoppe > > > > Dear group members! > > namaskar! before making fool of urself by running after nagamanis, > > plz read this :- > > http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1486401,00180008.htm > > > > a nagamani is not an gemstone..which one can find too easily... > > thanks > > amit uniyal > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga mani. > > here > > > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > > > > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after completion of 100 > > > living years and then preserves it within its throat. when it > > wants > > > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani on a rock > > or > > > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red light. > then > > > whatever animals that come close to it or found in that light are > > > eaten by this nag. > > > > > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate nagalok and > > snakes > > > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as they like. > > > this has been writeen in various classics. scientists also > proved > > > that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen for > several > > > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only creatures other > > > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact snakes > > get > > > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who strive with > > > ghora sadhana. > > > > > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like this. when > he > > > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and was sure > > > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large iron > tavva > > > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then the nag > > > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till its last > > > breath to get that mani and does not go away without getting the > > > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying to get it > > > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it till it > > > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image would be > > > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards would > > hunt > > > that person and kills. so he shall mask while collecting this > > naga > > > mani after the death of the nag. > > > > > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i found a > > person > > > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this > priceless > > > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in any open > > > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, the > > entire > > > area would be illuminated with red light naturally emanating from > > > this naga mani. even though that person is not willing to sell > > it, > > > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two million > > rupees > > > would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 22, 2006 Moreover on one side knowledable people in this group are saying that nagas r shiva's jewels and favorites and on other hand this looks like a joke that same person is suggesting that even if some1 sees a genuine nagamani he will have to wait for naga get killed.... I dont belive any Shiva bhagat will harm any naga for personal benefits.. Dear group members Plz give ur comments on it! thanks amit uniyal http://www.devshoppe.com , spskathiravan ravan <bb_22_72> wrote: > > Greeting sri amit ji, > > Kindly take note that all are not fakes. There are some real to. I have personly seen one Real Naga Mani. I have also seen how they take the Naga Mani from the snake. Like Mr Richard said " > > It is said that this jewel is present on the mouth of a snake. Its light shows the snake its way even in pitch darkness. When the snake senses some danger, it at once swallows the jewel. But it is said that all the snakes do not have this jewel. Only a few, privileged ones have it on their hoods. Naga Mani is said to be extremely expensive. If someone wishes to get it, he has to face lot of dangers. Thus, those who wish to possess Naga Mani first of all locate the right kind of snake that actually has the jewel. Then they chase the snake day and night continuously. Now, as soon as the snake puts the jewel out, it is covered with a blanket. Not seeing the light of the jewel, the snake naturally feels perplexed and in a way 'commits suicide' by beating its hood on the ground. But this whole venture is very risky." > > I saw this venture with my own eyes. This happend in the village in india. The heads of the village did not allow me to take a photo because it has to returned to the village temple. I did tell the villagers that i can offer 5 million rupees for the Naga Mani but they told me that it was for the god not for you. They also said that god has chosen you to bring the Naga Mani to their temple. Thats why they even ask their mans to help me get this rare Naga Mani. > > So there is real Naga Mani around but most are unknown. > > Thank you > With Best Regards, > Ravan > > > amit uniyal <devshoppe> wrote: > Dear sri arjun ji, > Sadar pranam! > It seems u have taken my message personally...the message i posted > was just to create awareness among the members that what happened to > one person can happen to them too. > Nw a days , they put a LED light inside these soo called manis which > gets charged with sun rays and shine till back up lasts. > Check this image:- > http://ph./photos/view/5 > f07?b=1 > > this is 100% fake soo called nagamani... > By posting this message i never meant that it doesnt exsists....it > is there in this world itself..but its not that u take a tawa and > went to jungle...climb up a tree and get it...wow ...soo simple!!! > > > U tried to put up light on an sacred object and if someone tries to > share his thoughts...then whats the problem...after all we all have > our opinions and views...and the link i gave ..i havent made the > story myself...its published in one of the biggest daily > newspapers...what happened to one man can happen to another... > > Nagamani is not a gomed or pukhraj so that any1 can get... > Ofcourse only when Lord shiva wants to give it to some1...he will > get it. > > I m sorry if my message pinched u in anyway...my intentions were not > to create the debate... > thanks > amit uniyal > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear shiv bhakt amit ji > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > there are rotten fruits in each type of fruit. > > > > there are fake tantriks and astrologers who were caught by TV > > channels and are behind bars. > > > > there are fake rudraksha sellers at all pilgrim centres. > > > > similarly there are fake doctors and fakes in each and every > > commodity including medicines. they does not make one cynical. > > > > these fake incidents themselves do not harm but the cynical > negative > > campaign by few pessimistic people who try to create a mountain > out > > of a mole cause more harm. > > > > please try to have a positive outlook and positive approach > whenever > > a person wish to throw more light on sacred items, especially rare > > items. we shiv bhakts are all here to share knowledge and > > information on various issues related to lord shiva and since nag > is > > called shankarabharanam or shiva wears the nag as an ornament and > i > > have seen myself the mythical seshnag several times enroute > > Amarnath. similarly i was sharing the information as i received > on > > naga mani. by lord shiva's grace i may have a darshan of the same > > and wish to take photograph and share with other shiv bhakts. > > > > as regards naga mani is concerned, i clearly mentioned that i > heard > > this "story" about a man in possession of this and have not yet > > seen. i sought an appointment myself to have a darshan of the > same > > and shall share further information on that also. > > > > as you rightly observed, nagamani is a soft radiant gem (not > > stone). > > > > if a particular item is not easily available it does not mean it > is > > extinct. because of the rarity the price increases and the > > purchaser profusely thanks the seller for making available any > > rarest extinct holy objects. > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > "amit uniyal" <devshoppe@> > > Mon May 22, 2006 1:51 am > > Re: naga mani devshoppe > > > > Dear group members! > > namaskar! before making fool of urself by running after nagamanis, > > plz read this :- > > http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1486401,00180008.htm > > > > a nagamani is not an gemstone..which one can find too easily... > > thanks > > amit uniyal > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga mani. > > here > > > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > > > > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after completion of 100 > > > living years and then preserves it within its throat. when it > > wants > > > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani on a rock > > or > > > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red light. > then > > > whatever animals that come close to it or found in that light are > > > eaten by this nag. > > > > > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate nagalok and > > snakes > > > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as they like. > > > this has been writeen in various classics. scientists also > proved > > > that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen for > several > > > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only creatures other > > > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact snakes > > get > > > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who strive with > > > ghora sadhana. > > > > > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like this. when > he > > > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and was sure > > > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large iron > tavva > > > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then the nag > > > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till its last > > > breath to get that mani and does not go away without getting the > > > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying to get it > > > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it till it > > > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image would be > > > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards would > > hunt > > > that person and kills. so he shall mask while collecting this > > naga > > > mani after the death of the nag. > > > > > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i found a > > person > > > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this > priceless > > > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in any open > > > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, the > > entire > > > area would be illuminated with red light naturally emanating from > > > this naga mani. even though that person is not willing to sell > > it, > > > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two million > > rupees > > > would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 22, 2006 dear shiv bhakts om namo bhagawate rudraya whenever we share any information with a view to spread knowledge, it is better to supplement with more additional information if not compliment. to criticise, finding con and foul in everything is not an advisable approach in a public forum. i was mentioning how this gem was obtained by a collector. some shiv bhakts like amit ji and sampath ji are trying to put words in our mouths as if we are on the prowl to kill a snake. earlier also when we were discussing on deer skin and tiger skin usage in tapas, few shiv bhakts felt as if we are advocating killing deers and tigers. shiv bhakts richard ji and kathiravan ji are blessed souls to have had darshan of this holiest nagamani. i hereby clarify to all shiv bhakts that no one is on the prowl to search for a nag carrying this gem to kill and get that. let me repeat clearly that this gem WAS OBTAINED BY A COLLECTOR LONG LONG AGO and we are only trying have a darshan and get a photo if possible. we request all shiv bhakts not to resort to criticism and instead give contribution. in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes pandit arjun , "amit uniyal" <devshoppe> wrote: > > Moreover on one side knowledable people in this group are saying > that nagas r shiva's jewels and favorites and on other hand this > looks like a joke that same person is suggesting that even if some1 > sees a genuine nagamani he will have to wait for naga get killed.... > I dont belive any Shiva bhagat will harm any naga for personal > benefits.. > Dear group members Plz give ur comments on it! > thanks > amit uniyal > http://www.devshoppe.com > > > > > , spskathiravan ravan > <bb_22_72@> wrote: > > > > Greeting sri amit ji, > > > > Kindly take note that all are not > fakes. There are some real to. I have personly seen one Real Naga > Mani. I have also seen how they take the Naga Mani from the snake. > Like Mr Richard said " > > > > It is said that this jewel is present on the mouth of a snake. > Its light shows the snake its way even in pitch darkness. When the > snake senses some danger, it at once swallows the jewel. But it is > said that all the snakes do not have this jewel. Only a few, > privileged ones have it on their hoods. Naga Mani is said to be > extremely expensive. If someone wishes to get it, he has to face lot > of dangers. Thus, those who wish to possess Naga Mani first of all > locate the right kind of snake that actually has the jewel. Then > they chase the snake day and night continuously. Now, as soon as the > snake puts the jewel out, it is covered with a blanket. Not seeing > the light of the jewel, the snake naturally feels perplexed and in a > way 'commits suicide' by beating its hood on the ground. But this > whole venture is very risky." > > > > I saw this venture with my own eyes. This happend in the village > in india. The heads of the village did not allow me to take a photo > because it has to returned to the village temple. I did tell the > villagers that i can offer 5 million rupees for the Naga Mani but > they told me that it was for the god not for you. They also said > that god has chosen you to bring the Naga Mani to their temple. > Thats why they even ask their mans to help me get this rare Naga > Mani. > > > > So there is real Naga Mani around but most are unknown. > > > > Thank you > > With Best Regards, > > Ravan > > > > > > amit uniyal <devshoppe@> wrote: > > Dear sri arjun ji, > > Sadar pranam! > > It seems u have taken my message personally...the message i posted > > was just to create awareness among the members that what happened > to > > one person can happen to them too. > > Nw a days , they put a LED light inside these soo called manis > which > > gets charged with sun rays and shine till back up lasts. > > Check this image:- > > > http://ph./photos/view/5 > > f07?b=1 > > > > this is 100% fake soo called nagamani... > > By posting this message i never meant that it doesnt exsists....it > > is there in this world itself..but its not that u take a tawa and > > went to jungle...climb up a tree and get it...wow ...soo simple!!! > > > > > > U tried to put up light on an sacred object and if someone tries > to > > share his thoughts...then whats the problem...after all we all > have > > our opinions and views...and the link i gave ..i havent made the > > story myself...its published in one of the biggest daily > > newspapers...what happened to one man can happen to another... > > > > Nagamani is not a gomed or pukhraj so that any1 can get... > > Ofcourse only when Lord shiva wants to give it to some1...he will > > get it. > > > > I m sorry if my message pinched u in anyway...my intentions were > not > > to create the debate... > > thanks > > amit uniyal > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear shiv bhakt amit ji > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > there are rotten fruits in each type of fruit. > > > > > > there are fake tantriks and astrologers who were caught by TV > > > channels and are behind bars. > > > > > > there are fake rudraksha sellers at all pilgrim centres. > > > > > > similarly there are fake doctors and fakes in each and every > > > commodity including medicines. they does not make one cynical. > > > > > > these fake incidents themselves do not harm but the cynical > > negative > > > campaign by few pessimistic people who try to create a mountain > > out > > > of a mole cause more harm. > > > > > > please try to have a positive outlook and positive approach > > whenever > > > a person wish to throw more light on sacred items, especially > rare > > > items. we shiv bhakts are all here to share knowledge and > > > information on various issues related to lord shiva and since > nag > > is > > > called shankarabharanam or shiva wears the nag as an ornament > and > > i > > > have seen myself the mythical seshnag several times enroute > > > Amarnath. similarly i was sharing the information as i received > > on > > > naga mani. by lord shiva's grace i may have a darshan of the > same > > > and wish to take photograph and share with other shiv bhakts. > > > > > > as regards naga mani is concerned, i clearly mentioned that i > > heard > > > this "story" about a man in possession of this and have not yet > > > seen. i sought an appointment myself to have a darshan of the > > same > > > and shall share further information on that also. > > > > > > as you rightly observed, nagamani is a soft radiant gem (not > > > stone). > > > > > > if a particular item is not easily available it does not mean it > > is > > > extinct. because of the rarity the price increases and the > > > purchaser profusely thanks the seller for making available any > > > rarest extinct holy objects. > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > "amit uniyal" <devshoppe@> > > > Mon May 22, 2006 1:51 am > > > Re: naga mani devshoppe > > > > > > Dear group members! > > > namaskar! before making fool of urself by running after > nagamanis, > > > plz read this :- > > > http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1486401,00180008.htm > > > > > > a nagamani is not an gemstone..which one can find too easily... > > > thanks > > > amit uniyal > > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga mani. > > > here > > > > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > > > > > > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after completion of > 100 > > > > living years and then preserves it within its throat. when it > > > wants > > > > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani on a > rock > > > or > > > > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red light. > > then > > > > whatever animals that come close to it or found in that light > are > > > > eaten by this nag. > > > > > > > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate nagalok and > > > snakes > > > > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as they > like. > > > > this has been writeen in various classics. scientists also > > proved > > > > that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen for > > several > > > > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only creatures > other > > > > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact snakes > > > get > > > > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who strive > with > > > > ghora sadhana. > > > > > > > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like this. > when > > he > > > > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and was > sure > > > > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large iron > > tavva > > > > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then the nag > > > > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till its > last > > > > breath to get that mani and does not go away without getting > the > > > > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying to get > it > > > > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it till it > > > > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image would be > > > > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards would > > > hunt > > > > that person and kills. so he shall mask while collecting this > > > naga > > > > mani after the death of the nag. > > > > > > > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i found a > > > person > > > > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this > > priceless > > > > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in any > open > > > > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, the > > > entire > > > > area would be illuminated with red light naturally emanating > from > > > > this naga mani. even though that person is not willing to sell > > > it, > > > > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two million > > > rupees > > > > would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. > > > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 22, 2006 Dear Panditji, Sadar Pranam! well, Plz correct me if i m wrong... But a healthy debate( though i didnt wanted this, but nw i m into it) is good for our group members..We all have our views and ideas and i dont c anything wrong in putting my ideas and views infront of group members... I m not in anyway trying u stop u to obtain a pic or buy this mani....Plz understand all i wanted to tell is that nw a days con people r on t move and one shud remain extra cautious while buying such things... Anyways, i will be more than happy if u get the darshan of a real one and plz dont take everything personal!! Smile :-)) and be happy! amit uniyal http://www.devshoppe.com , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > dear shiv bhakts > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > whenever we share any information with a view to spread knowledge, > it is better to supplement with more additional information if not > compliment. to criticise, finding con and foul in everything is not > an advisable approach in a public forum. > > i was mentioning how this gem was obtained by a collector. some > shiv bhakts like amit ji and sampath ji are trying to put words in > our mouths as if we are on the prowl to kill a snake. earlier also > when we were discussing on deer skin and tiger skin usage in tapas, > few shiv bhakts felt as if we are advocating killing deers and > tigers. > > shiv bhakts richard ji and kathiravan ji are blessed souls to have > had darshan of this holiest nagamani. > > i hereby clarify to all shiv bhakts that no one is on the prowl to > search for a nag carrying this gem to kill and get that. let me > repeat clearly that this gem WAS OBTAINED BY A COLLECTOR LONG LONG > AGO and we are only trying have a darshan and get a photo if > possible. > > we request all shiv bhakts not to resort to criticism and instead > give contribution. > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > pandit arjun > > , "amit uniyal" > <devshoppe@> wrote: > > > > Moreover on one side knowledable people in this group are saying > > that nagas r shiva's jewels and favorites and on other hand this > > looks like a joke that same person is suggesting that even if > some1 > > sees a genuine nagamani he will have to wait for naga get > killed.... > > I dont belive any Shiva bhagat will harm any naga for personal > > benefits.. > > Dear group members Plz give ur comments on it! > > thanks > > amit uniyal > > http://www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > , spskathiravan ravan > > <bb_22_72@> wrote: > > > > > > Greeting sri amit ji, > > > > > > Kindly take note that all are not > > fakes. There are some real to. I have personly seen one Real Naga > > Mani. I have also seen how they take the Naga Mani from the snake. > > Like Mr Richard said " > > > > > > It is said that this jewel is present on the mouth of a > snake. > > Its light shows the snake its way even in pitch darkness. When the > > snake senses some danger, it at once swallows the jewel. But it is > > said that all the snakes do not have this jewel. Only a few, > > privileged ones have it on their hoods. Naga Mani is said to be > > extremely expensive. If someone wishes to get it, he has to face > lot > > of dangers. Thus, those who wish to possess Naga Mani first of all > > locate the right kind of snake that actually has the jewel. Then > > they chase the snake day and night continuously. Now, as soon as > the > > snake puts the jewel out, it is covered with a blanket. Not seeing > > the light of the jewel, the snake naturally feels perplexed and in > a > > way 'commits suicide' by beating its hood on the ground. But this > > whole venture is very risky." > > > > > > I saw this venture with my own eyes. This happend in the > village > > in india. The heads of the village did not allow me to take a > photo > > because it has to returned to the village temple. I did tell the > > villagers that i can offer 5 million rupees for the Naga Mani but > > they told me that it was for the god not for you. They also said > > that god has chosen you to bring the Naga Mani to their temple. > > Thats why they even ask their mans to help me get this rare Naga > > Mani. > > > > > > So there is real Naga Mani around but most are unknown. > > > > > > Thank you > > > With Best Regards, > > > Ravan > > > > > > > > > amit uniyal <devshoppe@> wrote: > > > Dear sri arjun ji, > > > Sadar pranam! > > > It seems u have taken my message personally...the message i > posted > > > was just to create awareness among the members that what > happened > > to > > > one person can happen to them too. > > > Nw a days , they put a LED light inside these soo called manis > > which > > > gets charged with sun rays and shine till back up lasts. > > > Check this image:- > > > > > > http://ph./photos/view/5 > > > f07?b=1 > > > > > > this is 100% fake soo called nagamani... > > > By posting this message i never meant that it doesnt > exsists....it > > > is there in this world itself..but its not that u take a tawa > and > > > went to jungle...climb up a tree and get it...wow ...soo > simple!!! > > > > > > > > > U tried to put up light on an sacred object and if someone tries > > to > > > share his thoughts...then whats the problem...after all we all > > have > > > our opinions and views...and the link i gave ..i havent made the > > > story myself...its published in one of the biggest daily > > > newspapers...what happened to one man can happen to another... > > > > > > Nagamani is not a gomed or pukhraj so that any1 can get... > > > Ofcourse only when Lord shiva wants to give it to some1...he > will > > > get it. > > > > > > I m sorry if my message pinched u in anyway...my intentions were > > not > > > to create the debate... > > > thanks > > > amit uniyal > > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear shiv bhakt amit ji > > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > > > there are rotten fruits in each type of fruit. > > > > > > > > there are fake tantriks and astrologers who were caught by TV > > > > channels and are behind bars. > > > > > > > > there are fake rudraksha sellers at all pilgrim centres. > > > > > > > > similarly there are fake doctors and fakes in each and every > > > > commodity including medicines. they does not make one cynical. > > > > > > > > these fake incidents themselves do not harm but the cynical > > > negative > > > > campaign by few pessimistic people who try to create a > mountain > > > out > > > > of a mole cause more harm. > > > > > > > > please try to have a positive outlook and positive approach > > > whenever > > > > a person wish to throw more light on sacred items, especially > > rare > > > > items. we shiv bhakts are all here to share knowledge and > > > > information on various issues related to lord shiva and since > > nag > > > is > > > > called shankarabharanam or shiva wears the nag as an ornament > > and > > > i > > > > have seen myself the mythical seshnag several times enroute > > > > Amarnath. similarly i was sharing the information as i > received > > > on > > > > naga mani. by lord shiva's grace i may have a darshan of the > > same > > > > and wish to take photograph and share with other shiv bhakts. > > > > > > > > as regards naga mani is concerned, i clearly mentioned that i > > > heard > > > > this "story" about a man in possession of this and have not > yet > > > > seen. i sought an appointment myself to have a darshan of the > > > same > > > > and shall share further information on that also. > > > > > > > > as you rightly observed, nagamani is a soft radiant gem (not > > > > stone). > > > > > > > > if a particular item is not easily available it does not mean > it > > > is > > > > extinct. because of the rarity the price increases and the > > > > purchaser profusely thanks the seller for making available any > > > > rarest extinct holy objects. > > > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > "amit uniyal" <devshoppe@> > > > > Mon May 22, 2006 1:51 am > > > > Re: naga mani devshoppe > > > > > > > > Dear group members! > > > > namaskar! before making fool of urself by running after > > nagamanis, > > > > plz read this :- > > > > http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1486401,00180008.htm > > > > > > > > a nagamani is not an gemstone..which one can find too easily... > > > > thanks > > > > amit uniyal > > > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > > > > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga mani. > > > > here > > > > > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > > > > > > > > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after completion of > > 100 > > > > > living years and then preserves it within its throat. when > it > > > > wants > > > > > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani on a > > rock > > > > or > > > > > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red > light. > > > then > > > > > whatever animals that come close to it or found in that > light > > are > > > > > eaten by this nag. > > > > > > > > > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate nagalok and > > > > snakes > > > > > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as they > > like. > > > > > this has been writeen in various classics. scientists also > > > proved > > > > > that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen for > > > several > > > > > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only creatures > > other > > > > > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact > snakes > > > > get > > > > > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who strive > > with > > > > > ghora sadhana. > > > > > > > > > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like this. > > when > > > he > > > > > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and was > > sure > > > > > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large iron > > > tavva > > > > > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then the > nag > > > > > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till its > > last > > > > > breath to get that mani and does not go away without getting > > the > > > > > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying to > get > > it > > > > > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it till > it > > > > > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image would be > > > > > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards > would > > > > hunt > > > > > that person and kills. so he shall mask while collecting > this > > > > naga > > > > > mani after the death of the nag. > > > > > > > > > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i found a > > > > person > > > > > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this > > > priceless > > > > > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in any > > open > > > > > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, the > > > > entire > > > > > area would be illuminated with red light naturally emanating > > from > > > > > this naga mani. even though that person is not willing to > sell > > > > it, > > > > > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two million > > > > rupees > > > > > would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. > > > > > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2006 dear sri amit ji, Your question make sense but then again we must not forget what is stated in the Sri Garuda Puranam, READ BELOW. If it is a sin then why is it being stated in the Garuda Puran. THINK FOR A SECOND Anyone possessing such a naga-mani attains piety, rare good fortune, and eventually becomes illustrious as a leader of men, complete with a great collection of all precious gems. "Upon acquiring such a snake pearl, the owner should have the rite of installation performed by a priest who is learned in religious formalities. After hearing from the owner how the pearl was obtained and conducting the benedictory ritual, the priest should formally install the jewel inside the owner's house. On such an auspicious occasion, the sky becomes filled with dark and heavy rain clouds, thunder, and flashing lightning, such as exhibited at the time of universal dissolution. A man in possession of such a snake pearl will never be troubled by snakes, demonic beings, diseases, or disturbances in any form."---Sri Suta Goswami - Sri Garuda Puranam: 69 Thank you Regards ravan amit uniyal <devshoppe > wrote: Moreover on one side knowledable people in this group are saying that nagas r shiva's jewels and favorites and on other hand this looks like a joke that same person is suggesting that even if some1 sees a genuine nagamani he will have to wait for naga get killed.... I dont belive any Shiva bhagat will harm any naga for personal benefits.. Dear group members Plz give ur comments on it! thanks amit uniyal http://www.devshoppe.com , spskathiravan ravan <bb_22_72 wrote: > > Greeting sri amit ji, > > Kindly take note that all are not fakes. There are some real to. I have personly seen one Real Naga Mani. I have also seen how they take the Naga Mani from the snake. Like Mr Richard said " > > It is said that this jewel is present on the mouth of a snake. Its light shows the snake its way even in pitch darkness. When the snake senses some danger, it at once swallows the jewel. But it is said that all the snakes do not have this jewel. Only a few, privileged ones have it on their hoods. Naga Mani is said to be extremely expensive. If someone wishes to get it, he has to face lot of dangers. Thus, those who wish to possess Naga Mani first of all locate the right kind of snake that actually has the jewel. Then they chase the snake day and night continuously. Now, as soon as the snake puts the jewel out, it is covered with a blanket. Not seeing the light of the jewel, the snake naturally feels perplexed and in a way 'commits suicide' by beating its hood on the ground. But this whole venture is very risky." > > I saw this venture with my own eyes. This happend in the village in india. The heads of the village did not allow me to take a photo because it has to returned to the village temple. I did tell the villagers that i can offer 5 million rupees for the Naga Mani but they told me that it was for the god not for you. They also said that god has chosen you to bring the Naga Mani to their temple. Thats why they even ask their mans to help me get this rare Naga Mani. > > So there is real Naga Mani around but most are unknown. > > Thank you > With Best Regards, > Ravan > > > amit uniyal <devshoppe wrote: > Dear sri arjun ji, > Sadar pranam! > It seems u have taken my message personally...the message i posted > was just to create awareness among the members that what happened to > one person can happen to them too. > Nw a days , they put a LED light inside these soo called manis which > gets charged with sun rays and shine till back up lasts. > Check this image:- > http://ph./photos/view/5 > f07?b=1 > > this is 100% fake soo called nagamani... > By posting this message i never meant that it doesnt exsists....it > is there in this world itself..but its not that u take a tawa and > went to jungle...climb up a tree and get it...wow ...soo simple!!! > > > U tried to put up light on an sacred object and if someone tries to > share his thoughts...then whats the problem...after all we all have > our opinions and views...and the link i gave ..i havent made the > story myself...its published in one of the biggest daily > newspapers...what happened to one man can happen to another... > > Nagamani is not a gomed or pukhraj so that any1 can get... > Ofcourse only when Lord shiva wants to give it to some1...he will > get it. > > I m sorry if my message pinched u in anyway...my intentions were not > to create the debate... > thanks > amit uniyal > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear shiv bhakt amit ji > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > there are rotten fruits in each type of fruit. > > > > there are fake tantriks and astrologers who were caught by TV > > channels and are behind bars. > > > > there are fake rudraksha sellers at all pilgrim centres. > > > > similarly there are fake doctors and fakes in each and every > > commodity including medicines. they does not make one cynical. > > > > these fake incidents themselves do not harm but the cynical > negative > > campaign by few pessimistic people who try to create a mountain > out > > of a mole cause more harm. > > > > please try to have a positive outlook and positive approach > whenever > > a person wish to throw more light on sacred items, especially rare > > items. we shiv bhakts are all here to share knowledge and > > information on various issues related to lord shiva and since nag > is > > called shankarabharanam or shiva wears the nag as an ornament and > i > > have seen myself the mythical seshnag several times enroute > > Amarnath. similarly i was sharing the information as i received > on > > naga mani. by lord shiva's grace i may have a darshan of the same > > and wish to take photograph and share with other shiv bhakts. > > > > as regards naga mani is concerned, i clearly mentioned that i > heard > > this "story" about a man in possession of this and have not yet > > seen. i sought an appointment myself to have a darshan of the > same > > and shall share further information on that also. > > > > as you rightly observed, nagamani is a soft radiant gem (not > > stone). > > > > if a particular item is not easily available it does not mean it > is > > extinct. because of the rarity the price increases and the > > purchaser profusely thanks the seller for making available any > > rarest extinct holy objects. > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > "amit uniyal" <devshoppe@> > > Mon May 22, 2006 1:51 am > > Re: naga mani devshoppe > > > > Dear group members! > > namaskar! before making fool of urself by running after nagamanis, > > plz read this :- > > http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1486401,00180008.htm > > > > a nagamani is not an gemstone..which one can find too easily... > > thanks > > amit uniyal > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga mani. > > here > > > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > > > > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after completion of 100 > > > living years and then preserves it within its throat. when it > > wants > > > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani on a rock > > or > > > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red light. > then > > > whatever animals that come close to it or found in that light are > > > eaten by this nag. > > > > > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate nagalok and > > snakes > > > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as they like. > > > this has been writeen in various classics. scientists also > proved > > > that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen for > several > > > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only creatures other > > > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact snakes > > get > > > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who strive with > > > ghora sadhana. > > > > > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like this. when > he > > > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and was sure > > > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large iron > tavva > > > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then the nag > > > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till its last > > > breath to get that mani and does not go away without getting the > > > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying to get it > > > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it till it > > > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image would be > > > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards would > > hunt > > > that person and kills. so he shall mask while collecting this > > naga > > > mani after the death of the nag. > > > > > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i found a > > person > > > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this > priceless > > > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in any open > > > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, the > > entire > > > area would be illuminated with red light naturally emanating from > > > this naga mani. even though that person is not willing to sell > > it, > > > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two million > > rupees > > > would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2006 nagamani is not a material one but it is a myth. i think ppl spent their time to bhakthi towards god which is based on desire. Desire in anyway for ex to reach the moksha and living in the paradide with all comforts is also meaningless. Do meditate find millions of nagamani and other precious matter around u. look at lord siva's pic not a single gram of gold he wears why ppl are crazy to get worldly and mythical objects to own. namasivayam --- sampath koundinya <sampath_koundinya > wrote: > Hi Arjun Pandit > > Kya baath Hain......To get a Naga Mani ..one has to > kill brutally a NAG ...this is INHUMAN and really > condemed by Hinduism ,,,,,,,,,,what is the need of a > Naga Mani when we have a MANI which is > 10,0000000000000000000000000000000000000 folds > greater > than a NAGA MANI >>>>>> THE PANCHAKSHARI MANTRA > >>>>> > > It is said that the passion to posess a NAGA MAN|I > itself is harmful to the VAMSAM ( family ) .....if > it > is in our fait then the MANA itself will be coming > to > our hands with out any afforts .... all these ...Let > us hail SIVA >>>>>AND PANCHAKSHARI........... > > > To lett you know there are several Myths and stories > about Snakes ....Yes I do Believe in these ......I > have never witnessed but my Aunt and my father say > that they used to have a snake bill in their house > in > AMALAPURAM and when ever my father's grandfather > used > to sit in a swinging chair hang to the sealing the > snake used to come and sit at the top of the swing > ....emmm really some what not to our > imagination.....when the grandfather was dead the > snake never appeared again.........well there is > some > mystic about these snakes but involving into snakes > stuff is always danger ......Bhakthi towards them is > Perfectly alright but to acquire a NAGA MANI > ,,,,DANGER MAN ... > > > well that's it > > Bbye > > Sampath > --- nama siva <nama_sivam > wrote: > > > nice story. > > nagamani is also in our body. > > the process to get nagamani is aso simple. > > nagamani is in throat chakra. > > better activation of throat chakra will bring > > nagamani. > > namasivayam > > > > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > > > wrote: > > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > there are so many legends abound around the > mystic > > > naga mani. here > > > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > > > > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after > > > completion of 100 > > > living years and then preserves it within its > > > throat. when it wants > > > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps > the > > > mani on a rock or > > > on the ground which illuminates the whole area > in > > > red light. then > > > whatever animals that come close to it or found > in > > > that light are > > > eaten by this nag. > > > > > > according to hindu mythology, there is a > separate > > > nagalok and snakes > > > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or > form > > > as they like. > > > this has been writeen in various classics. > > > scientists also proved > > > that snakes alone can stay under ground without > > > oxygen for several > > > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only > > > creatures other > > > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. > > in > > > fact snakes get > > > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans > > who > > > strive with > > > ghora sadhana. > > > > > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does > > like > > > this. when he > > > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open > > area > > > and was sure > > > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw > a > > > large iron tavva > > > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope > carefully. > > > then the nag > > > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag > tries > > > till its last > > > breath to get that mani and does not go away > > without > > > getting the > > > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep > > > trying to get it > > > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to > > remove > > > it till it > > > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his > > image > > > would be > > > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes > > > afterwards would hunt > > > that person and kills. so he shall mask while > > > collecting this naga > > > mani after the death of the nag. > > > > > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last > week > > i > > > found a person > > > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to > > have > > > this priceless > > > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is > > > kept in any open > > > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an > amavasya > > > night, the entire > > > area would be illuminated with red light > naturally > > > emanating from > > > this naga mani. even though that person is not > > > willing to sell it, > > > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or > > two > > > million rupees > > > would make him rethink on his giving away of > this > > > item. > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2006 dear shiv bhakt amit ji om namo bhagawate rudraya i request all shiv bhakts to close this thread hereitself and continue only if they have anything to add value or contribute more or supplement with additional information like ravan ji added from garuda puran. in public groups and blogs, debates and free exchange of views on any and everything takes place. but this is a spiritual group where people come to forget their mental tensions and find peace in reading spiritual messages and seek answers to their queries and ask for more information on lord shiva and his related issues. in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes pandit arjun moderator , "amit uniyal" <devshoppe> wrote: > > Dear Panditji, > Sadar Pranam! > well, Plz correct me if i m wrong... > But a healthy debate( though i didnt wanted this, but nw i m into it) > is good for our group members..We all have our views and ideas and > i dont c anything wrong in putting my ideas and views infront of > group members... > I m not in anyway trying u stop u to obtain a pic or buy this > mani....Plz understand all i wanted to tell is that nw a days con > people r on t move and one shud remain extra cautious while buying > such things... > Anyways, i will be more than happy if u get the darshan of a real > one and plz dont take everything personal!! > Smile :-)) and be happy! > amit uniyal > http://www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > whenever we share any information with a view to spread knowledge, > > it is better to supplement with more additional information if not > > compliment. to criticise, finding con and foul in everything is > not > > an advisable approach in a public forum. > > > > i was mentioning how this gem was obtained by a collector. some > > shiv bhakts like amit ji and sampath ji are trying to put words in > > our mouths as if we are on the prowl to kill a snake. earlier > also > > when we were discussing on deer skin and tiger skin usage in > tapas, > > few shiv bhakts felt as if we are advocating killing deers and > > tigers. > > > > shiv bhakts richard ji and kathiravan ji are blessed souls to have > > had darshan of this holiest nagamani. > > > > i hereby clarify to all shiv bhakts that no one is on the prowl to > > search for a nag carrying this gem to kill and get that. let me > > repeat clearly that this gem WAS OBTAINED BY A COLLECTOR LONG LONG > > AGO and we are only trying have a darshan and get a photo if > > possible. > > > > we request all shiv bhakts not to resort to criticism and instead > > give contribution. > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > pandit arjun > > > > , "amit uniyal" > > <devshoppe@> wrote: > > > > > > Moreover on one side knowledable people in this group are saying > > > that nagas r shiva's jewels and favorites and on other hand this > > > looks like a joke that same person is suggesting that even if > > some1 > > > sees a genuine nagamani he will have to wait for naga get > > killed.... > > > I dont belive any Shiva bhagat will harm any naga for personal > > > benefits.. > > > Dear group members Plz give ur comments on it! > > > thanks > > > amit uniyal > > > http://www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , spskathiravan > ravan > > > <bb_22_72@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Greeting sri amit ji, > > > > > > > > Kindly take note that all are > not > > > fakes. There are some real to. I have personly seen one Real > Naga > > > Mani. I have also seen how they take the Naga Mani from the > snake. > > > Like Mr Richard said " > > > > > > > > It is said that this jewel is present on the mouth of a > > snake. > > > Its light shows the snake its way even in pitch darkness. When > the > > > snake senses some danger, it at once swallows the jewel. But it > is > > > said that all the snakes do not have this jewel. Only a few, > > > privileged ones have it on their hoods. Naga Mani is said to be > > > extremely expensive. If someone wishes to get it, he has to face > > lot > > > of dangers. Thus, those who wish to possess Naga Mani first of > all > > > locate the right kind of snake that actually has the jewel. Then > > > they chase the snake day and night continuously. Now, as soon as > > the > > > snake puts the jewel out, it is covered with a blanket. Not > seeing > > > the light of the jewel, the snake naturally feels perplexed and > in > > a > > > way 'commits suicide' by beating its hood on the ground. But > this > > > whole venture is very risky." > > > > > > > > I saw this venture with my own eyes. This happend in the > > village > > > in india. The heads of the village did not allow me to take a > > photo > > > because it has to returned to the village temple. I did tell the > > > villagers that i can offer 5 million rupees for the Naga Mani > but > > > they told me that it was for the god not for you. They also said > > > that god has chosen you to bring the Naga Mani to their temple. > > > Thats why they even ask their mans to help me get this rare Naga > > > Mani. > > > > > > > > So there is real Naga Mani around but most are unknown. > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > With Best Regards, > > > > Ravan > > > > > > > > > > > > amit uniyal <devshoppe@> wrote: > > > > Dear sri arjun ji, > > > > Sadar pranam! > > > > It seems u have taken my message personally...the message i > > posted > > > > was just to create awareness among the members that what > > happened > > > to > > > > one person can happen to them too. > > > > Nw a days , they put a LED light inside these soo called manis > > > which > > > > gets charged with sun rays and shine till back up lasts. > > > > Check this image:- > > > > > > > > > > http://ph./photos/view/5 > > > > f07?b=1 > > > > > > > > this is 100% fake soo called nagamani... > > > > By posting this message i never meant that it doesnt > > exsists....it > > > > is there in this world itself..but its not that u take a tawa > > and > > > > went to jungle...climb up a tree and get it...wow ...soo > > simple!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > U tried to put up light on an sacred object and if someone > tries > > > to > > > > share his thoughts...then whats the problem...after all we all > > > have > > > > our opinions and views...and the link i gave ..i havent made > the > > > > story myself...its published in one of the biggest daily > > > > newspapers...what happened to one man can happen to another... > > > > > > > > Nagamani is not a gomed or pukhraj so that any1 can get... > > > > Ofcourse only when Lord shiva wants to give it to some1...he > > will > > > > get it. > > > > > > > > I m sorry if my message pinched u in anyway...my intentions > were > > > not > > > > to create the debate... > > > > thanks > > > > amit uniyal > > > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear shiv bhakt amit ji > > > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > > > > > there are rotten fruits in each type of fruit. > > > > > > > > > > there are fake tantriks and astrologers who were caught by > TV > > > > > channels and are behind bars. > > > > > > > > > > there are fake rudraksha sellers at all pilgrim centres. > > > > > > > > > > similarly there are fake doctors and fakes in each and every > > > > > commodity including medicines. they does not make one > cynical. > > > > > > > > > > these fake incidents themselves do not harm but the cynical > > > > negative > > > > > campaign by few pessimistic people who try to create a > > mountain > > > > out > > > > > of a mole cause more harm. > > > > > > > > > > please try to have a positive outlook and positive approach > > > > whenever > > > > > a person wish to throw more light on sacred items, > especially > > > rare > > > > > items. we shiv bhakts are all here to share knowledge and > > > > > information on various issues related to lord shiva and > since > > > nag > > > > is > > > > > called shankarabharanam or shiva wears the nag as an > ornament > > > and > > > > i > > > > > have seen myself the mythical seshnag several times enroute > > > > > Amarnath. similarly i was sharing the information as i > > received > > > > on > > > > > naga mani. by lord shiva's grace i may have a darshan of > the > > > same > > > > > and wish to take photograph and share with other shiv bhakts. > > > > > > > > > > as regards naga mani is concerned, i clearly mentioned that > i > > > > heard > > > > > this "story" about a man in possession of this and have not > > yet > > > > > seen. i sought an appointment myself to have a darshan of > the > > > > same > > > > > and shall share further information on that also. > > > > > > > > > > as you rightly observed, nagamani is a soft radiant gem (not > > > > > stone). > > > > > > > > > > if a particular item is not easily available it does not > mean > > it > > > > is > > > > > extinct. because of the rarity the price increases and the > > > > > purchaser profusely thanks the seller for making available > any > > > > > rarest extinct holy objects. > > > > > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "amit uniyal" <devshoppe@> > > > > > Mon May 22, 2006 1:51 am > > > > > Re: naga mani devshoppe > > > > > > > > > > Dear group members! > > > > > namaskar! before making fool of urself by running after > > > nagamanis, > > > > > plz read this :- > > > > > http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1486401,00180008.htm > > > > > > > > > > a nagamani is not an gemstone..which one can find too > easily... > > > > > thanks > > > > > amit uniyal > > > > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > > > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > > > > > > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga > mani. > > > > > here > > > > > > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > > > > > > > > > > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after completion > of > > > 100 > > > > > > living years and then preserves it within its throat. > when > > it > > > > > wants > > > > > > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani on > a > > > rock > > > > > or > > > > > > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red > > light. > > > > then > > > > > > whatever animals that come close to it or found in that > > light > > > are > > > > > > eaten by this nag. > > > > > > > > > > > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate nagalok > and > > > > > snakes > > > > > > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as they > > > like. > > > > > > this has been writeen in various classics. scientists > also > > > > proved > > > > > > that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen for > > > > several > > > > > > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only creatures > > > other > > > > > > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact > > snakes > > > > > get > > > > > > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who > strive > > > with > > > > > > ghora sadhana. > > > > > > > > > > > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like this. > > > when > > > > he > > > > > > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and > was > > > sure > > > > > > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large > iron > > > > tavva > > > > > > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then > the > > nag > > > > > > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till > its > > > last > > > > > > breath to get that mani and does not go away without > getting > > > the > > > > > > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying to > > get > > > it > > > > > > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it > till > > it > > > > > > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image would > be > > > > > > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards > > would > > > > > hunt > > > > > > that person and kills. so he shall mask while collecting > > this > > > > > naga > > > > > > mani after the death of the nag. > > > > > > > > > > > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i found > a > > > > > person > > > > > > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this > > > > priceless > > > > > > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in > any > > > open > > > > > > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, > the > > > > > entire > > > > > > area would be illuminated with red light naturally > emanating > > > from > > > > > > this naga mani. even though that person is not willing to > > sell > > > > > it, > > > > > > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two > million > > > > > rupees > > > > > > would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. > > > > > > > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2006 Dear Fellow Group members, Naga ie snake is a symbol.Of What , of our cage the Backbone and when one use his key to open up his cage (Kundalini sakthi). It raises from the lower portion or the key part to the head. In this passage there are various states(chakras)and at each stage different forms of Gods can be viualized and moreover we can see and hear things happening in that place.(I dont know but some great realized say). Snakes are parables.when we see a snake on the neck of Lord Shiva that meant his is in the chakra of neck, Sothe position of snake could mean where what diety is there to be realized.(This is my guess so if people know better do enlighten instead of pouring critics). Regards, Moorthy Quoting panditarjun2004 : > dear shiv bhakt amit ji om namo bhagawate rudraya i request all shiv bhakts to close this thread hereitself and continue only if they have anything to add value or contribute more or supplement with additional information like ravan ji added from garuda puran. in public groups and blogs, debates and free exchange of views on any and everything takes place. but this is a spiritual group where people come to forget their mental tensions and find peace in reading spiritual messages and seek answers to their queries and ask for more information on lord shiva and his related issues. in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes pandit arjun moderator , "amit uniyal" <devshoppe wrote: > > Dear Panditji, > Sadar Pranam! > well, Plz correct me if i m wrong... > But a healthy debate( though i didnt wanted this, but nw i m into it) > is good for our group members..We all have our views and ideas and > i dont c anything wrong in putting my ideas and views infront of > group members... > I m not in anyway trying u stop u to obtain a pic or buy this > mani....Plz understand all i wanted to tell is that nw a days con > people r on t move and one shud remain extra cautious while buying > such things... > Anyways, i will be more than happy if u get the darshan of a real > one and plz dont take everything personal!! > Smile :-)) and be happy! > amit uniyal > http://www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > whenever we share any information with a view to spread knowledge, > > it is better to supplement with more additional information if not > > compliment. to criticise, finding con and foul in everything is > not > > an advisable approach in a public forum. > > > > i was mentioning how this gem was obtained by a collector. some > > shiv bhakts like amit ji and sampath ji are trying to put words in > > our mouths as if we are on the prowl to kill a snake. earlier > also > > when we were discussing on deer skin and tiger skin usage in > tapas, > > few shiv bhakts felt as if we are advocating killing deers and > > tigers. > > > > shiv bhakts richard ji and kathiravan ji are blessed souls to have > > had darshan of this holiest nagamani. > > > > i hereby clarify to all shiv bhakts that no one is on the prowl to > > search for a nag carrying this gem to kill and get that. let me > > repeat clearly that this gem WAS OBTAINED BY A COLLECTOR LONG LONG > > AGO and we are only trying have a darshan and get a photo if > > possible. > > > > we request all shiv bhakts not to resort to criticism and instead > > give contribution. > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > pandit arjun > > > > , "amit uniyal" > > <devshoppe@> wrote: > > > > > > Moreover on one side knowledable people in this group are saying > > > that nagas r shiva's jewels and favorites and on other hand this > > > looks like a joke that same person is suggesting that even if > > some1 > > > sees a genuine nagamani he will have to wait for naga get > > killed.... > > > I dont belive any Shiva bhagat will harm any naga for personal > > > benefits.. > > > Dear group members Plz give ur comments on it! > > > thanks > > > amit uniyal > > > http://www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , spskathiravan > ravan > > > <bb_22_72@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Greeting sri amit ji, > > > > > > > > Kindly take note that all are > not > > > fakes. There are some real to. I have personly seen one Real > Naga > > > Mani. I have also seen how they take the Naga Mani from the > snake. > > > Like Mr Richard said " > > > > > > > > It is said that this jewel is present on the mouth of a > > snake. > > > Its light shows the snake its way even in pitch darkness. When > the > > > snake senses some danger, it at once swallows the jewel. But it > is > > > said that all the snakes do not have this jewel. Only a few, > > > privileged ones have it on their hoods. Naga Mani is said to be > > > extremely expensive. If someone wishes to get it, he has to face > > lot > > > of dangers. Thus, those who wish to possess Naga Mani first of > all > > > locate the right kind of snake that actually has the jewel. Then > > > they chase the snake day and night continuously. Now, as soon as > > the > > > snake puts the jewel out, it is covered with a blanket. Not > seeing > > > the light of the jewel, the snake naturally feels perplexed and > in > > a > > > way 'commits suicide' by beating its hood on the ground. But > this > > > whole venture is very risky." > > > > > > > > I saw this venture with my own eyes. This happend in the > > village > > > in india. The heads of the village did not allow me to take a > > photo > > > because it has to returned to the village temple. I did tell the > > > villagers that i can offer 5 million rupees for the Naga Mani > but > > > they told me that it was for the god not for you. They also said > > > that god has chosen you to bring the Naga Mani to their temple. > > > Thats why they even ask their mans to help me get this rare Naga > > > Mani. > > > > > > > > So there is real Naga Mani around but most are unknown. > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > With Best Regards, > > > > Ravan > > > > > > > > > > > > amit uniyal <devshoppe@> wrote: > > > > Dear sri arjun ji, > > > > Sadar pranam! > > > > It seems u have taken my message personally...the message i > > posted > > > > was just to create awareness among the members that what > > happened > > > to > > > > one person can happen to them too. > > > > Nw a days , they put a LED light inside these soo called manis > > > which > > > > gets charged with sun rays and shine till back up lasts. > > > > Check this image:- > > > > > > > > > > http://ph./photos/view/5 > > > > f07?b=1 > > > > > > > > this is 100% fake soo called nagamani... > > > > By posting this message i never meant that it doesnt > > exsists....it > > > > is there in this world itself..but its not that u take a tawa > > and > > > > went to jungle...climb up a tree and get it...wow ...soo > > simple!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > U tried to put up light on an sacred object and if someone > tries > > > to > > > > share his thoughts...then whats the problem...after all we all > > > have > > > > our opinions and views...and the link i gave ..i havent made > the > > > > story myself...its published in one of the biggest daily > > > > newspapers...what happened to one man can happen to another... > > > > > > > > Nagamani is not a gomed or pukhraj so that any1 can get... > > > > Ofcourse only when Lord shiva wants to give it to some1...he > > will > > > > get it. > > > > > > > > I m sorry if my message pinched u in anyway...my intentions > were > > > not > > > > to create the debate... > > > > thanks > > > > amit uniyal > > > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear shiv bhakt amit ji > > > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > > > > > there are rotten fruits in each type of fruit. > > > > > > > > > > there are fake tantriks and astrologers who were caught by > TV > > > > > channels and are behind bars. > > > > > > > > > > there are fake rudraksha sellers at all pilgrim centres. > > > > > > > > > > similarly there are fake doctors and fakes in each and every > > > > > commodity including medicines. they does not make one > cynical. > > > > > > > > > > these fake incidents themselves do not harm but the cynical > > > > negative > > > > > campaign by few pessimistic people who try to create a > > mountain > > > > out > > > > > of a mole cause more harm. > > > > > > > > > > please try to have a positive outlook and positive approach > > > > whenever > > > > > a person wish to throw more light on sacred items, > especially > > > rare > > > > > items. we shiv bhakts are all here to share knowledge and > > > > > information on various issues related to lord shiva and > since > > > nag > > > > is > > > > > called shankarabharanam or shiva wears the nag as an > ornament > > > and > > > > i > > > > > have seen myself the mythical seshnag several times enroute > > > > > Amarnath. similarly i was sharing the information as i > > received > > > > on > > > > > naga mani. by lord shiva's grace i may have a darshan of > the > > > same > > > > > and wish to take photograph and share with other shiv bhakts. > > > > > > > > > > as regards naga mani is concerned, i clearly mentioned that > i > > > > heard > > > > > this "story" about a man in possession of this and have not > > yet > > > > > seen. i sought an appointment myself to have a darshan of > the > > > > same > > > > > and shall share further information on that also. > > > > > > > > > > as you rightly observed, nagamani is a soft radiant gem (not > > > > > stone). > > > > > > > > > > if a particular item is not easily available it does not > mean > > it > > > > is > > > > > extinct. because of the rarity the price increases and the > > > > > purchaser profusely thanks the seller for making available > any > > > > > rarest extinct holy objects. > > > > > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "amit uniyal" <devshoppe@> > > > > > Mon May 22, 2006 1:51 am > > > > > Re: naga mani devshoppe > > > > > > > > > > Dear group members! > > > > > namaskar! before making fool of urself by running after > > > nagamanis, > > > > > plz read this :- > > > > > http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1486401,00180008.htm > > > > > > > > > > a nagamani is not an gemstone..which one can find too > easily... > > > > > thanks > > > > > amit uniyal > > > > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > > > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > > > > > > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga > mani. > > > > > here > > > > > > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > > > > > > > > > > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after completion > of > > > 100 > > > > > > living years and then preserves it within its throat. > when > > it > > > > > wants > > > > > > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani on > a > > > rock > > > > > or > > > > > > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red > > light. > > > > then > > > > > > whatever animals that come close to it or found in that > > light > > > are > > > > > > eaten by this nag. > > > > > > > > > > > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate nagalok > and > > > > > snakes > > > > > > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as they > > > like. > > > > > > this has been writeen in various classics. scientists > also > > > > proved > > > > > > that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen for > > > > several > > > > > > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only creatures > > > other > > > > > > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact > > snakes > > > > > get > > > > > > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who > strive > > > with > > > > > > ghora sadhana. > > > > > > > > > > > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like this. > > > when > > > > he > > > > > > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and > was > > > sure > > > > > > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large > iron > > > > tavva > > > > > > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then > the > > nag > > > > > > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till > its > > > last > > > > > > breath to get that mani and does not go away without > getting > > > the > > > > > > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying to > > get > > > it > > > > > > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it > till > > it > > > > > > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image would > be > > > > > > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards > > would > > > > > hunt > > > > > > that person and kills. so he shall mask while collecting > > this > > > > > naga > > > > > > mani after the death of the nag. > > > > > > > > > > > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i found > a > > > > > person > > > > > > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this > > > > priceless > > > > > > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in > any > > > open > > > > > > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, > the > > > > > entire > > > > > > area would be illuminated with red light naturally > emanating > > > from > > > > > > this naga mani. even though that person is not willing to > > sell > > > > > it, > > > > > > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two > million > > > > > rupees > > > > > > would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. > > > > > > > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Dear Ravan, There is a similar story here in Brazil about some snakes having very beautiful jewels in their throats. I have never see any, though. But in India it is the belief that only the Naja (hooded, venom- spitting) snake has this jewel? I am very much attracted to this animal, I don´t know why. Snakes are surely something very strange, first because they move very rapidly with no arms or legs, second because they swim and third because they are able to hide very wisely and move very silently. I have seen a number of venomous snakes here in Brazil, it is quite common in many regions of the country. I have always been hypnotized and stared to them hours in the zoo when I was a kid. When I was about 7 years old I saw the biggest, one of the most terrible snakes here in Brazil called Jararaca. It was some 6 to 8 feet long and moved slightly. When it saw us, me and my cousins and my uncle, it prepared to attack us. We set back and gladly my unkle had a 12caliber shooter and was able to shoot it dead. Other day, more recently, I was in small river surrounded by long leaves of "capim" or grown green grass, trying to cross it to get the football ball that had been kicked out of the playfield. Intuitively I looked to my right side when I was bended stretching my arms to get the ball. There it was: a big, 4-5 feet, green, wide- necked snake. It had its head and half of its body up, staring at me, just some 2 feet away from me (less than 1 meter). Intuitively I stared back at her, unmoving, both bewildered and amazed but not frightened! I stood staring at the snake for some 30 seconds or more until she slowly put her head down and smoothly got into the river, calmly swimming away from me. This was a very fun experience. When I remembered it 5 minutes later, I was very afraid. But, somehow, when it happened I was simply kind of cold. I also like lizzards. When I´m in bush areas or trails in the forest I usually meet them. I like them staring, gazing and walking so fast. Once I was smoking cannabis in a forest trail with a friend and we saw a large lizzard. It turned its head and stared at us. Then it came closer and closer. Distracted by the talk with my friend, I then felt something in my left leg. When I looked, it was the lizzard! It was standing cooly with the two front legs on my leg. I thought how cute, and moved my hand to rub its head. But then it walked back suddenly. Reptiles are very interesting. ONS Fred , spskathiravan ravan <bb_22_72> wrote: > > Greeting sri amit ji, > > Kindly take note that all are not fakes. There are some real to. I have personly seen one Real Naga Mani. I have also seen how they take the Naga Mani from the snake. Like Mr Richard said " > > It is said that this jewel is present on the mouth of a snake. Its light shows the snake its way even in pitch darkness. When the snake senses some danger, it at once swallows the jewel. But it is said that all the snakes do not have this jewel. Only a few, privileged ones have it on their hoods. Naga Mani is said to be extremely expensive. If someone wishes to get it, he has to face lot of dangers. Thus, those who wish to possess Naga Mani first of all locate the right kind of snake that actually has the jewel. Then they chase the snake day and night continuously. Now, as soon as the snake puts the jewel out, it is covered with a blanket. Not seeing the light of the jewel, the snake naturally feels perplexed and in a way 'commits suicide' by beating its hood on the ground. But this whole venture is very risky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2006 Nice story about naga mani Arjun ji. Om namah shivaya, Divakar. , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004> wrote: > > dear shiv bhakt amit ji > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > i request all shiv bhakts to close this thread hereitself and > continue only if they have anything to add value or contribute more > or supplement with additional information like ravan ji added from > garuda puran. > > in public groups and blogs, debates and free exchange of views on > any and everything takes place. but this is a spiritual group where > people come to forget their mental tensions and find peace in > reading spiritual messages and seek answers to their queries and ask > for more information on lord shiva and his related issues. > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > pandit arjun > moderator > > > , "amit uniyal" > <devshoppe@> wrote: > > > > Dear Panditji, > > Sadar Pranam! > > well, Plz correct me if i m wrong... > > But a healthy debate( though i didnt wanted this, but nw i m into > it) > > is good for our group members..We all have our views and ideas and > > i dont c anything wrong in putting my ideas and views infront of > > group members... > > I m not in anyway trying u stop u to obtain a pic or buy this > > mani....Plz understand all i wanted to tell is that nw a days con > > people r on t move and one shud remain extra cautious while buying > > such things... > > Anyways, i will be more than happy if u get the darshan of a real > > one and plz dont take everything personal!! > > Smile :-)) and be happy! > > amit uniyal > > http://www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > whenever we share any information with a view to spread > knowledge, > > > it is better to supplement with more additional information if > not > > > compliment. to criticise, finding con and foul in everything is > > not > > > an advisable approach in a public forum. > > > > > > i was mentioning how this gem was obtained by a collector. some > > > shiv bhakts like amit ji and sampath ji are trying to put words > in > > > our mouths as if we are on the prowl to kill a snake. earlier > > also > > > when we were discussing on deer skin and tiger skin usage in > > tapas, > > > few shiv bhakts felt as if we are advocating killing deers and > > > tigers. > > > > > > shiv bhakts richard ji and kathiravan ji are blessed souls to > have > > > had darshan of this holiest nagamani. > > > > > > i hereby clarify to all shiv bhakts that no one is on the prowl > to > > > search for a nag carrying this gem to kill and get that. let me > > > repeat clearly that this gem WAS OBTAINED BY A COLLECTOR LONG > LONG > > > AGO and we are only trying have a darshan and get a photo if > > > possible. > > > > > > we request all shiv bhakts not to resort to criticism and > instead > > > give contribution. > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > , "amit uniyal" > > > <devshoppe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Moreover on one side knowledable people in this group are > saying > > > > that nagas r shiva's jewels and favorites and on other hand > this > > > > looks like a joke that same person is suggesting that even if > > > some1 > > > > sees a genuine nagamani he will have to wait for naga get > > > killed.... > > > > I dont belive any Shiva bhagat will harm any naga for personal > > > > benefits.. > > > > Dear group members Plz give ur comments on it! > > > > thanks > > > > amit uniyal > > > > http://www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , spskathiravan > > ravan > > > > <bb_22_72@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Greeting sri amit ji, > > > > > > > > > > Kindly take note that all are > > not > > > > fakes. There are some real to. I have personly seen one Real > > Naga > > > > Mani. I have also seen how they take the Naga Mani from the > > snake. > > > > Like Mr Richard said " > > > > > > > > > > It is said that this jewel is present on the mouth of a > > > snake. > > > > Its light shows the snake its way even in pitch darkness. When > > the > > > > snake senses some danger, it at once swallows the jewel. But > it > > is > > > > said that all the snakes do not have this jewel. Only a few, > > > > privileged ones have it on their hoods. Naga Mani is said to > be > > > > extremely expensive. If someone wishes to get it, he has to > face > > > lot > > > > of dangers. Thus, those who wish to possess Naga Mani first of > > all > > > > locate the right kind of snake that actually has the jewel. > Then > > > > they chase the snake day and night continuously. Now, as soon > as > > > the > > > > snake puts the jewel out, it is covered with a blanket. Not > > seeing > > > > the light of the jewel, the snake naturally feels perplexed > and > > in > > > a > > > > way 'commits suicide' by beating its hood on the ground. But > > this > > > > whole venture is very risky." > > > > > > > > > > I saw this venture with my own eyes. This happend in the > > > village > > > > in india. The heads of the village did not allow me to take a > > > photo > > > > because it has to returned to the village temple. I did tell > the > > > > villagers that i can offer 5 million rupees for the Naga Mani > > but > > > > they told me that it was for the god not for you. They also > said > > > > that god has chosen you to bring the Naga Mani to their > temple. > > > > Thats why they even ask their mans to help me get this rare > Naga > > > > Mani. > > > > > > > > > > So there is real Naga Mani around but most are unknown. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > With Best Regards, > > > > > Ravan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amit uniyal <devshoppe@> wrote: > > > > > Dear sri arjun ji, > > > > > Sadar pranam! > > > > > It seems u have taken my message personally...the message i > > > posted > > > > > was just to create awareness among the members that what > > > happened > > > > to > > > > > one person can happen to them too. > > > > > Nw a days , they put a LED light inside these soo called > manis > > > > which > > > > > gets charged with sun rays and shine till back up lasts. > > > > > Check this image:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://ph./photos/view/5 > > > > > f07?b=1 > > > > > > > > > > this is 100% fake soo called nagamani... > > > > > By posting this message i never meant that it doesnt > > > exsists....it > > > > > is there in this world itself..but its not that u take a > tawa > > > and > > > > > went to jungle...climb up a tree and get it...wow ...soo > > > simple!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U tried to put up light on an sacred object and if someone > > tries > > > > to > > > > > share his thoughts...then whats the problem...after all we > all > > > > have > > > > > our opinions and views...and the link i gave ..i havent made > > the > > > > > story myself...its published in one of the biggest daily > > > > > newspapers...what happened to one man can happen to > another... > > > > > > > > > > Nagamani is not a gomed or pukhraj so that any1 can get... > > > > > Ofcourse only when Lord shiva wants to give it to some1...he > > > will > > > > > get it. > > > > > > > > > > I m sorry if my message pinched u in anyway...my intentions > > were > > > > not > > > > > to create the debate... > > > > > thanks > > > > > amit uniyal > > > > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear shiv bhakt amit ji > > > > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > > > > > > > there are rotten fruits in each type of fruit. > > > > > > > > > > > > there are fake tantriks and astrologers who were caught by > > TV > > > > > > channels and are behind bars. > > > > > > > > > > > > there are fake rudraksha sellers at all pilgrim centres. > > > > > > > > > > > > similarly there are fake doctors and fakes in each and > every > > > > > > commodity including medicines. they does not make one > > cynical. > > > > > > > > > > > > these fake incidents themselves do not harm but the > cynical > > > > > negative > > > > > > campaign by few pessimistic people who try to create a > > > mountain > > > > > out > > > > > > of a mole cause more harm. > > > > > > > > > > > > please try to have a positive outlook and positive > approach > > > > > whenever > > > > > > a person wish to throw more light on sacred items, > > especially > > > > rare > > > > > > items. we shiv bhakts are all here to share knowledge and > > > > > > information on various issues related to lord shiva and > > since > > > > nag > > > > > is > > > > > > called shankarabharanam or shiva wears the nag as an > > ornament > > > > and > > > > > i > > > > > > have seen myself the mythical seshnag several times > enroute > > > > > > Amarnath. similarly i was sharing the information as i > > > received > > > > > on > > > > > > naga mani. by lord shiva's grace i may have a darshan of > > the > > > > same > > > > > > and wish to take photograph and share with other shiv > bhakts. > > > > > > > > > > > > as regards naga mani is concerned, i clearly mentioned > that > > i > > > > > heard > > > > > > this "story" about a man in possession of this and have > not > > > yet > > > > > > seen. i sought an appointment myself to have a darshan of > > the > > > > > same > > > > > > and shall share further information on that also. > > > > > > > > > > > > as you rightly observed, nagamani is a soft radiant gem > (not > > > > > > stone). > > > > > > > > > > > > if a particular item is not easily available it does not > > mean > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > extinct. because of the rarity the price increases and > the > > > > > > purchaser profusely thanks the seller for making available > > any > > > > > > rarest extinct holy objects. > > > > > > > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "amit uniyal" <devshoppe@> > > > > > > Mon May 22, 2006 1:51 am > > > > > > Re: naga mani devshoppe > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear group members! > > > > > > namaskar! before making fool of urself by running after > > > > nagamanis, > > > > > > plz read this :- > > > > > > > http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7242_1486401,00180008.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > a nagamani is not an gemstone..which one can find too > > easily... > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > amit uniyal > > > > > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear shiv bhakts > > > > > > > om namo bhagawate rudraya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are so many legends abound around the mystic naga > > mani. > > > > > > here > > > > > > > is the latest story heard by me last week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an ichadhari nag develops this naga mani after > completion > > of > > > > 100 > > > > > > > living years and then preserves it within its throat. > > when > > > it > > > > > > wants > > > > > > > to use it as a bait for getting prey, it keeps the mani > on > > a > > > > rock > > > > > > or > > > > > > > on the ground which illuminates the whole area in red > > > light. > > > > > then > > > > > > > whatever animals that come close to it or found in that > > > light > > > > are > > > > > > > eaten by this nag. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according to hindu mythology, there is a separate > nagalok > > and > > > > > > snakes > > > > > > > as ichadharis i.e. they can take any shape or form as > they > > > > like. > > > > > > > this has been writeen in various classics. scientists > > also > > > > > proved > > > > > > > that snakes alone can stay under ground without oxygen > for > > > > > several > > > > > > > months in hibernation. also snakes are the only > creatures > > > > other > > > > > > > than human beings to have kundalini awakeneing. in fact > > > snakes > > > > > > get > > > > > > > thier kundalini awakened naturally unlike humans who > > strive > > > > with > > > > > > > ghora sadhana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person who wish to get this naga mani does like > this. > > > > when > > > > > he > > > > > > > spots the red light in a jungle or in any open area and > > was > > > > sure > > > > > > > about it, he shal climb a tree nearby and throw a large > > iron > > > > > tavva > > > > > > > or a big iron vessel on it with a rope carefully. then > > the > > > nag > > > > > > > bites the iron vessel till it dies. the nag tries till > > its > > > > last > > > > > > > breath to get that mani and does not go away without > > getting > > > > the > > > > > > > mani. if it fails to get the mani it would keep trying > to > > > get > > > > it > > > > > > > back by biting the iron vessel and trying to remove it > > till > > > it > > > > > > > dies. if the person comes in front of it, his image > would > > be > > > > > > > caputred by the nag and the nagni which comes afterwards > > > would > > > > > > hunt > > > > > > > that person and kills. so he shall mask while > collecting > > > this > > > > > > naga > > > > > > > mani after the death of the nag. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my quest to find this naga mani, only last week i > found > > a > > > > > > person > > > > > > > in Uttar Pradesh close to Delhi who is said to have this > > > > > priceless > > > > > > > naga mani. it is said that if this naga mani is kept in > > any > > > > open > > > > > > > area (park, jungle or fields) even on an amavasya night, > > the > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > area would be illuminated with red light naturally > > emanating > > > > from > > > > > > > this naga mani. even though that person is not willing > to > > > sell > > > > > > it, > > > > > > > he said that any lucrative offer of a million or two > > million > > > > > > rupees > > > > > > > would make him rethink on his giving away of this item. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pandit Arjun (Healer, Astrologer) > > > > > > > B-32A, Kalkaji, New Delhi-110019 > > > > > > > Mobile 9899860935 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
