Sri Narayaneeyam by Sundar Kumar

Sri Sundar Kumar will give lectures on Sri

Narayaneeyam at Sri Gokul Kalyana Mandapam, Alwarpet,

chennai 600 018.

The place is below the alwarpet flyover and opposite

Sri Mookambika Complex.

Camp of Sri Vidyabinava Krishnananda Tirtha

mahaswaminah of Sakatapuram

This is for 3 days and it starts at 7:30 pm.

Interested people may pls come and get the divine

blessings

Regards,

Kamesh B

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The Ordainer controls the fate of souls in accordance with their prarabhakarma

(destiny to be worked out in this life, resulting from the balance-sheet of

actions in past lives).Whatever is destined not to happen, will not happen, try

as you may.Whatever is destined to happen will happen, do what you may to

prevent it. This is certain. The best course, therefore, is to remain

silent.Kamesh B

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--- kamesh ratnam <kameshratnam wrote:

> =====

> The Ordainer controls the fate of souls in accordance with their

> prarabhakarma (destiny to be worked out in this life, resulting from

> the balance-sheet of actions in past lives).Whatever is destined not

> to happen, will not happen, try as you may.Whatever is destined to

> happen will happen, do what you may to prevent it. This is certain.

> The best course, therefore, is to remain silent.Kamesh B

Shree Kamesh - There is a tint of self-contradiction in the above

statement. If the prarabdha karma is accepted as resulting from the

balance sheet of previous actions - then current action also should reap

the results, which can counter of the results of previous actions. If

you are responsible for the actions in the past, you are equally

responsible for what you do now, so that future results are past

modified by your present action. 'Remaining silent', if at all, should

be where you do not take responsibility either for the past or for the

present action. That involves an understanding that I was never an actor

before nor now- Silently watching the action that is taking place

through Body-mind-intellect complex. No one can remain from action -

'nahi kaschit kshanamapi ...' One can remain inactive in action, but

that requires an understanding of who is the actor in all actions.

Hari OM!

Sadananda

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What you have is destiny and what you do with what you have is self-effort.

Future destiny is post destiny modified by your present action. You are not only

the prisoner of your past but master of your future. - Swami Chinmayananda

advaitin, kuntimaddi sadananda

<kuntimaddisada> wrote:

> --- kamesh ratnam <kameshratnam> wrote:

>

> > =====

> > The Ordainer controls the fate of souls in accordance with their

> > prarabhakarma (destiny to be worked out in this life, resulting from

> > the balance-sheet of actions in past lives).Whatever is destined not

> > to happen, will not happen, try as you may.Whatever is destined to

> > happen will happen, do what you may to prevent it. This is certain.

> > The best course, therefore, is to remain silent.Kamesh B

>

> Shree Kamesh - There is a tint of self-contradiction in the above

> statement.

Namaste,

This is a translation of Ramana Maharshi's response to his

mother's pleading with him to return home.

I do not know if the translation from Tamil is accurate or not.

Maharshi used another metaphor on other occasions: When a

husband (ego) dies, all his 3 wives (agami, sanchita, prarabdha

karmas) are widowed at the same time, not one by one!

Regards,

Sunder

--- kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada

wrote:

> --- kamesh ratnam <kameshratnam wrote:

>

> > =====

> > The Ordainer controls the fate of souls in

> accordance with their

> > prarabhakarma (destiny to be worked out in this

> life, resulting from

> > the balance-sheet of actions in past

> lives).Whatever is destined not

> > to happen, will not happen, try as you

> may.Whatever is destined to

> > happen will happen, do what you may to prevent it.

> This is certain.

> > The best course, therefore, is to remain

> silent.Kamesh B

>

> Shree Kamesh - There is a tint of self-contradiction

> in the above

> statement. If the prarabdha karma is accepted as

> resulting from the

> balance sheet of previous actions - then current

> action also should reap

> the results, which can counter of the results of

> previous actions. If

> you are responsible for the actions in the past, you

> are equally

> responsible for what you do now, so that future

> results are past

> modified by your present action. 'Remaining silent',

> if at all, should

> be where you do not take responsibility either for

> the past or for the

> present action. That involves an understanding that

> I was never an actor

> before nor now- Silently watching the action that is

> taking place

> through Body-mind-intellect complex. No one can

> remain from action -

> 'nahi kaschit kshanamapi ...' One can remain

> inactive in action, but

> that requires an understanding of who is the actor

> in all actions.

>

> Hari OM!

> Sadananda

>

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Dearest Sadaji:

Perhaps if you had been there, you could have helped

Sri Ramana's mother persuade her son to come home with

her. :-).

Love to all,

Harsha

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--- Sunder Hattangadi <sunderh wrote:

> advaitin, kuntimaddi

> sadananda

> <kuntimaddisada> wrote:

> > --- kamesh ratnam <kameshratnam> wrote:

> >

> > > =====

> > > The Ordainer controls the fate of souls in

> accordance with their

> > > prarabhakarma (destiny to be worked out in this

> life, resulting from

> > > the balance-sheet of actions in past

> lives).Whatever is destined not

> > > to happen, will not happen, try as you

> may.Whatever is destined to

> > > happen will happen, do what you may to prevent

> it. This is certain.

> > > The best course, therefore, is to remain

> silent.Kamesh B

> >

> > Shree Kamesh - There is a tint of

> self-contradiction in the above

> > statement.

>

> Namaste,

>

> This is a translation of Ramana Maharshi's

> response to his

> mother's pleading with him to return home.

>

> I do not know if the translation from Tamil

> is accurate or not.

>

> Maharshi used another metaphor on other

> occasions: When a

> husband (ego) dies, all his 3 wives (agami,

> sanchita, prarabdha

> karmas) are widowed at the same time, not one by

> one!

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunder

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I should have known that Sunderji would point this

out! Sorry Sadaji. You got reminded twice! :-).

Just to make you feel better, Sri Ramana did once say

(and I paraphrase) that he was fortunate not to be

attracted to any school of thought and get stuck in

the quagmire of philosophical speculation! :-).

Love to all,

Harsha

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--- Harsha <harshaimtm wrote:

> ***************************

> Dearest Sadaji:

>

> Perhaps if you had been there, you could have helped

> Sri Ramana's mother persuade her son to come home with

> her. :-).

>

> Love to all,

> Harsha

>

Harshaji - I do understand the force of Prarabda. I was noting the

contradition in the statement. Along with prarabda there is a

purushaartha too. Otherwise Sadhana has no role to play. - Krishna's

message is be inactive while performing the action. Inaction in action

- while contemplation is action in inaction. No wonder Krishna said it

is difficult to understand

"kiM karma kimakarmoti kavoyOpi atra mohitAH".

Hari OM!

Sadananda

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What you have is destiny and what you do with what you have is self-effort.

Future destiny is post destiny modified by your present action. You are not only

the prisoner of your past but master of your future. - Swami Chinmayananda

--

> *******************************

> I should have known that Sunderji would point this

> out! Sorry Sadaji. You got reminded twice! :-).

>

> Just to make you feel better, Sri Ramana did once say

> (and I paraphrase) that he was fortunate not to be

> attracted to any school of thought and get stuck in

> the quagmire of philosophical speculation! :-).

>

> Love to all,

> Harsha

For a realized person there is nothing more to act and no action is

needed to keep the wheel going. But they still do for loka sangraha -

just as Krishana did. Ramana also took care of his mother when she

eventually came back to him. When he knew that she is going to comeback

which will be more beneficial for her, whey should he go with her when

she asked her to return home. There is more loka sangraha by his

staying at Tiruvannamalia than going with her. That is the silence in

action.

Hari OM!

Sadananda

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What you have is destiny and what you do with what you have is self-effort.

Future destiny is post destiny modified by your present action. You are not only

the prisoner of your past but master of your future. - Swami Chinmayananda

--- kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada

wrote:

> Harshaji - I do understand the force of Prarabda. I

> was noting the

> contradition in the statement. Along with prarabda

> there is a

> purushaartha too. Otherwise Sadhana has no role to

> play. - Krishna's

> message is be inactive while performing the action.

> Inaction in action

> - while contemplation is action in inaction. No

> wonder Krishna said it

> is difficult to understand

> "kiM karma kimakarmoti kavoyOpi atra mohitAH".

> Hari OM!

> Sadananda

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Thanks Sadaji. As a practical matter, what you say

always makes perfect sense. In the Bhagavad Gita Sri

Krishna sometimes appears to emphasize destiny and

other times free will. Same seems to be true for many

great sages including Sri Ramana. But as in quoting

Sri Krishna, you rightly point out that these are

difficult things to understand.

Sadaji, we all know you as a great devotee as well

someone who has enormous depth in the advaitic

teaching and knowledge. Thanks for all your sharing

and please forgive my lapse into humor.

Love to all

Harsha

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