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Default Bg 4.35 purport - 09-01-2003, 08:32 PM

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But the Mäyävädé philosophers fail to understand that absolute means that one plus one is equal to one, and that one minus one is also equal to one. This is the case in the absolute world.
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Default What Srila Prabhupada actually said about it? - 09-01-2003, 11:12 PM

Even after two thousand years, the name of Lord Jesus is very powerful, in the whole world, thanks to many branches and sects. Some preaching they have the same, some say total different - some of them are vegetarians because they say Lord Jesus was a vegetarian. The cult of Mother Mary: some sects say She was a virgin and holy, some say she was just an ordinary mother but her son was God.

Anyway... Srila Prabhupada, on Dec 31 1966 in New York said:

"In the beginning, Lord Caitanya says that by the symptoms, we can understand that He is saktyavesa. By the symptoms and activities and influence. So what is that symptom? Symptom is that eternal and temporary. So avatar, incarnation comes to glorify the eternal existence of the Supreme Lord. So any avatara, any incarnation, He comes to glorify that "There is spiritual kingdom. There is God, and I have come to reclaim you to back to Godhead, back to home." This is the symptom. So therefore, by that symptom, we accept Lord Jesus Christ as saktyavesa avatara, or Hajarat Muhammad, he's also. Because these two religious leaders of the world, they preached about the glorification of the Supreme Lord. And they sacrificed everything for preaching the glories of the Lord. Therefore, and their influence and their followers, there are... These are the symptoms by which we can understand that Jesus Christ and Hazarat Muhammad was, were saktyavesa avataras.
So far Buddha is concerned, he's also considered saktyavesa avatara. He preached this nirvana philosophy. Although he did not speak about God because it is considered that he was himself God, but the people amongst whom he preached, they were mostly atheistic people. Therefore he did not preach about God. But he did not deny also. He simply wanted to make extinction of this present worldly activities."

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In the beginning, Lord Caitanya says that by the symptoms, we can under- stand that He is saktyavesa. By the symptoms and activities and influence. So what is that symptom? Symptom is that eternal and temporary. So avatar, incarnation comes to glorify the eternal existence of the Supreme Lord. So any avatara, any incarnation, He comes to glorify that "There is spiritual kingdom. There is God, and I have come to reclaim you to back to Godhead, back to home." This is the symptom. So therefore, by that symptom, we accept Lord Jesus Christ as saktyavesa avatara, or Hajarat Muhammad, he's also. Because these two religious leaders of the world, they preached about the glorification of the Supreme Lord. And they sacrificed everything for preaching the glories of the Lord. Therefore, and their influence and their followers, there are... These are the symptoms by which we can understand that Jesus Christ and Hazarat Muhammad was, were saktyavesa avataras.
So far Buddha is concerned, he's also considered saktyavesa avatara. He preached this nirvana philosophy. Although he did not speak about God because it is considered that he was himself God, but the people amongst whom he preached, they were mostly atheistic people. Therefore he did not preach about God. But he did not deny also. He simply wanted to make extinction of this present worldly activities.

(c) 1991 by Bhaktivedanta Book Trust
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Default therefore - 09-01-2003, 11:40 PM

Theist is wrong and Jesus is not Krishna.

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Default STOP ARGUING - 08-26-2004, 05:30 PM

Why waste our time discussing is Jesus was God or if Krishna was GOD. Who cares!!!! MAybe yes, maybe none of them are GOD.
None of us was here 5000 years ago to see Krishna and be certain that he was GOd.
None of us was alive 2000 years ago to see Jesus walk over the watar.
If Jesus and Krishna were God of not should not matter. Is not important if Jesus resurected or not... Is not important if Krishna faught the demonds in Vridavan...

Let's stop arguing if they existed or not...Let's not argue who's who or what. Whatever we can come up with is THEORY and perphaps knowlege.....But knowledge is intimatly related to ignorance.

What we should do is to look at their teachings and put them into practice (that's the hardest part). Krishna and Chrisht taught Love and non-attachment.
With both elements we all can reach enlightment.
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Default \"I see!\", said the blind man... - 08-26-2004, 08:59 PM

Way to bring dredge up old topics, Guest!

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What we should do is to look at their teachings and put them into practice (that's the hardest part). Krishna and Chrisht taught Love and non-attachment.
With both elements we all can reach enlightment.[quote]


...or we could all just reread Theist's signatures over and over and over and over and over...


My signatures seem to have become a topic in and of themselves. That is not a bad thing since they are composed of Prabhupada quotes alone.

All have clear meanings and certainly don't require my purport, or yours.

I suggest we all comtemplate them some more.

Here they come again for the enlightenment of all.

Another point is that disciplic succession does not mean one has to be directly a disciple of a particular person.-letter to Kirtananda 69-01-25

... disciplic succession does not always mean that one has to be initiated officially. Disciplic succession means to accept the disciplic conclusion. -letter to Dinesh 1969

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Default This also - 08-26-2004, 09:29 PM

We have great respect for Lord Jesus Christ. We accept him as powerful incarnation of Krishna, as much as we accept Lord Buddha.- letter to Syamasundara, N.V. June 3, 1969

Shatyavesh avatar. Try to understand a little one and difference. Many of you are dressing and talking like big devotees of Mahaprabhu so I wouldn't think this would be that hard.
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Default [email]u_ra@abv.bg[/email] - 08-30-2004, 06:51 AM

Dear Sir, what is called 'Old Testament' is an awkward PLAGUE(plagiarizing) and speculation on what is called 'VEDAs'(THE REAL scriptures- SASTRAs.)
If you are not so sure that 'habiru'(hebrew) tribes(below even sudras- chandala-mlechchha) are DEMONIC(asuric) ORIENTED in the end of Dwapara and the beginning of Kali(Apo-Kali-psi) just read the Deuteronomy(and you will see the these chandala tribes ADORE Kali- an aspect ot the Shiva's wife).
Levi(levees, leviticus) these chandala 'priest' are PROBABLY the first official satanic priest- judah's priest.
There a lot of evedences that Christos(hellenic word for ChrsTna) appears just because 5,000 years ago hellenic tribes were kshatryas out of the sacral vedic state.
What is called western democracy is a jewish trick(hoax) and often consider Jesus as a revolutionary just because their are in the mode of ignorance.
Jesus came form Satya(Krita, Crete)loca(l) sent by B.Ra(h)ma-atma Himself, the first EMANATION of Visnu. Vishnu is the full expansion of KRSNA!

AUM Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya!
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Default Dear guest - 09-04-2004, 12:51 PM

Those exact words were recently posted on this forum by another copy and paster. Like you that person pretended to be the author by not listing and giving credit to his source.

Please give proper credit where credit is due.
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