Guest guest Posted February 23, 1999 Report Share Posted February 23, 1999 Good morning Satsanghers; Thank you for all of your valuable posts regarding the issue of ashrams, teachers, traditions. We may not have exhausted all sides of the discussions, but this has been important for me, at least. Preparing to travel to India to become a Sannyasin, I must be certain regarding my own mind and committment to serve a lineage, a guru and, of course, God, the Divine, MySelf, or whatever words any of us may use to indicate the presence of Grace in our lives. It is encouraging to discover that there are so many seekers, who like myself, have struggled to improve the spiritual quality of their lives while working, raising families and so forth. It is also encouraging to know that I certainly am not the only 'seeker' to question the significance of monasteries, ashrams, lineages and teachers. That one may receive the blessings of Grace while working and doing one's Sadhana in the world is true. That one may receive the blessings of Grace while participating in the life of the ashram, monastery or the devotee of a particular Teacher or tradition, is also true. The important thing is quality of life. There are many ways to enjoy quality of life. We are fortunate to have many choices available to us. We can stay at home and go nowhere, we can live in intentional communities, we can discover life in foreign lands, we can probe relationships that are new and different--so many choices. Not all equal, not all the same, but none essentially superior to another. Just different for different reasons. Thank you again for challenging me and assisting me in knowing my own heart. In devotion, Madhya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 1999 Report Share Posted February 23, 1999 Dear Madhya Nandi, thanks for your questions and perspective. The deep unfolding of our own nature are the things of discovery. Maybe it is like the way you write your poems. This is not something that you could ever learn from another. You could learn syntax or be around other poets, but the process is individual. The quality of life that you talk about means for me relaxing enough to take in the mystery. IMO going on a spiritual quest is always worthwhile. There are many great teachers and great teachings. Undertaking this journey is a way of opening to the universe. To show up and be willing in an outer relationship is an acknowledgement of our inner relationship - our journey to a Self that was never separate. When you are with a great teacher, the words that are spoken are almost irrelevant. There is a kind of learning by osmosis that happens. Once this transmission has started it can happen anywhere or any moment. Then being in the cave or riding the subway are the same. Then the journey has become the internal journey and the cave is the cave of the omnipresent Being. Namaste, Dirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 1999 Report Share Posted February 23, 1999 madhya nandi wrote: Gloria: You also may wish to consider the fact that you are bringing forward everything that you have ever known from your past and with it a mission. In my case it was to ground spirit into the family vibration and then take it out in the ripples from there. This is a powerful example of fruit which in many ways is more beneficial and helpful for people then you can possibly imagine. In a real sense you work with energies and transformation. I knew from early childhood that I had work to do, it wasn't about teaching in the normal idea of the word, but about working in relationships so that the energy brought through it would be transformational because of the ability to surrender to God and allow God to work and bring the many parts together. I met my husband when I was 11, he was 14, he recognized me and knew he would marry me and put all of his focus from then on in this which wasn't easy since he lived in California and I was in Nevada. We married when I was 17 had both our daughters by the time I was 20. Even in the marriage I surrendered to it, I said well God, this sure must be what you want to happen since this person is totally convinced of it. When I had the dream three months after being married that a little girl asked me if she could come back with me ... and I woke up and told my husband it was time and she was born 9 months later, it gives you the idea of how things were set up. Everything from that time on has been like this including the 20 plus foster children we have helped raise. So, don't think for a moment that the only place to do this work is from one specific thought form about what is right. There is no right or wrong, but what is unfolding for you in the present. And the mission you came into this life to manifest, this mission may be to live in the ashram but it may not, only you can know this. > > madhya nandi <madhya > > Good morning Satsanghers; > > Thank you for all of your valuable posts regarding the issue of > ashrams, teachers, traditions. We may not have exhausted all sides > of the discussions, but this has been important for me, at least. > Preparing to travel to India to become a Sannyasin, I must be certain > regarding my own mind and committment to serve a lineage, a guru and, > of course, God, the Divine, MySelf, or whatever words any of us may > use to indicate the presence of Grace in our lives. > > It is encouraging to discover that there are so many seekers, who > like myself, have struggled to improve the spiritual quality of their > lives while working, raising families and so forth. It is also > encouraging to know that I certainly am not the only 'seeker' to > question the significance of monasteries, ashrams, lineages and > teachers. > > That one may receive the blessings of Grace while working and doing > one's Sadhana in the world is true. > > That one may receive the blessings of Grace while participating in > the life of the ashram, monastery or the devotee of a particular > Teacher or tradition, is also true. > > The important thing is quality of life. There are many ways to enjoy > quality of life. We are fortunate to have many choices available to > us. We can stay at home and go nowhere, we can live in intentional > communities, we can discover life in foreign lands, we can probe > relationships that are new and different--so many choices. Not all > equal, not all the same, but none essentially superior to another. > Just different for different reasons. > > Thank you again for challenging me and assisting me in knowing my own heart. > > In devotion, > > Madhya > > ------ > Check out our new web site! -- Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher. Gloria Joy Greco e-mail me at : lodpress and visit our homepages at: http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ & http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ Hope you enjoy them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 1999 Report Share Posted February 23, 1999 Haueter, Dirk wrote: Gloria; Hi Dirk, glad to see you sharing. It is wonderful to feel the spiritual dynamics at work and real soul connections being made. Madhya is great at bringing the conversations out and focusing them in a way that people can easily join in. > > "Haueter, Dirk" <Dirk_Haueter > > Dear Madhya Nandi, > thanks for your questions and perspective. The deep unfolding of our own > nature are the things of discovery. Maybe it is like the way you write your > poems. This is not something that you could ever learn from another. You > could learn syntax or be around other poets, but the process is individual. > The quality of life that you talk about means for me relaxing enough to take > in the mystery. IMO going on a spiritual quest is always worthwhile. There > are many great teachers and great teachings. Undertaking this journey is a > way of opening to the universe. To show up and be willing in an outer > relationship is an acknowledgement of our inner relationship - our journey > to a Self that was never separate. When you are with a great teacher, the > words that are spoken are almost irrelevant. There is a kind of learning by > osmosis that happens. Once this transmission has started it can happen > anywhere or any moment. Then being in the cave or riding the subway are the > same. Then the journey has become the internal journey and the cave is the > cave of the omnipresent Being. > > Namaste, > Dirk > > ------ > We now have over 85,000 e-mail communities. Check out our new web site! > -- Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher. Gloria Joy Greco e-mail me at : lodpress and visit our homepages at: http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ & http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ Hope you enjoy them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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