[contemplateast-west] Precious Words from Ramana Maharshi

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In a message dated 2/21/99 10:06:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

hluthar writes:

 

<< "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar

 

Harsha: Some more gems from the But one cannot reach it without effort, the

effort of deliberate meditation. All the age long vasanas (impressions)

carry the mind outwards and turn it to external objects. All such thoughts

have to be given up and the mind turned inward. For that, effort is

necessary, for most people. Of course everybody, every book says 'Be quiet

or still'. But it is not easy. That is why all this effort is necessary.

 

1. It is false to speak of realisation. What is there to realise ? The real

is as it is, ever. How to realise it ? All that is required is this. We have

realised the unreal, i.e., regarded as real what is unreal. We have to give

up this attitude. That is all that is required for us to attain jnana. We

are not creating anything new or achieving something which we did not have

before.

 

 

2. Effortless and choiceless awareness is our real state. If we can attain

it or be in it, it is all right. But one cannot reach it without effort, the

effort of deliberate meditation. All the age long vasanas (impressions)

carry the mind outwards and turn it to external objects. All such thoughts

have to be given up and the mind turned inward. For that, effort is

necessary, for most people. Of course everybody, every book says 'Be quiet

or still'. But it is not easy. That is why all this effort is necessary.

 

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Yes Thanks for this Harsha. Yes how difficult it is yet so simple. You know I

appreciate these messages and at the same time get frustrated sometimes when

hearing these type of messages. Its kind of like when Im really tired and some

one is calling me to wake up......saying its time to wake up. I want to shake

my head and go back to sleep. I was like that as a kid. I would go to bed late

at night and then have a hard time waking up but Mom would continue to say

Wake UP! Wake UP!... Ok Im glad to see this portion of what Sage of

Arunachala says>>>>>But one cannot reach it without effort, the

effort of deliberate meditation. All the age long vasanas (impressions)

carry the mind outwards and turn it to external objects. All such thoughts

have to be given up and the mind turned inward. For that, effort is

necessary, for most people. Of course everybody, every book says 'Be quiet

or still'. But it is not easy. That is why all this effort is necessary.Alan>>

Yes silence is like my Mother calling me to wake up and quite frankly the

desire to wake up,to be watchful,do self observation,to practice being present

to my self as I am where I am, to others as they are,to the world around

me,right in front of me,I would not even have this longing and desire to wake

up,to be whole if I didnt have a daily practice of meditation..Thanks for you

post Harsha. peace,Alan