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Thanks much Rudran2.

 

Jai Chandi Maa ! I must pay more attention to the translation . I

have been focussing on the getting the chant straight.

 

Can the members share their experiences chanting the Chandi ?

 

My experience is one of 'I hafta do it' and stick with it. I havent

fallen in love with it as yet , but I know that if I do the time ,

Durga will respond . She's gonna get tired of my squeals aka chants

SOME day :)))

 

 

 

, "rudran2" <stechiekov> wrote:

> Laksmi is a vital componet in the composition of Durga. There are

> various chapters within the Chandi dedicated to Laksmi. Laksmi

> carries things forward and also brings things to completion.

>

> I am sorry, but I know very little of Saraswati. I do have a fine

> murti to her. I might have to wait for the Devi Mandir to publish a

> Saraswati Puja. Short of this I might purchase the DM's little

> Sarawati booklet for children. That way I should be able to glean

> some knowledge of her.

>

> , "jesuisdurga"

<jesuisdurga>

> wrote:

> > Can someone explain what is special about Laksmi or Sarasvati - I

> bow

> > to all Gods and Goddesses - but quite honestly I think they dont

> have

> > the dash of Durga or the sheer power or Kali.

> >

> > Durga Mata Ki Jai !

> >

> > , "rudran2" <stechiekov>

> wrote:

> > > I too had a good time doing Laksmi Puja yesterday twice. I

wrote

> > down

> > > stuff on my note to Devi and at least one of them seems to be

> > already

> > > well underway. This shows that Laksmi moves her pujaries toward

> the

> > > fulfillment of their goals not unlike an arrow moving rapidly

> > through

> > > the air. Persistance on our own part helps too. I am not sure

> what

> > > the Goddess has to do, but I certainly most continue my

> practices.

> > >

> > > , "nandu_108" <n_mallan>

> > wrote:

> > > > I wrote down my goals and gave it to Mother Lakshmi. Now I am

> all

> > > set

> > > > to recieve Her blessing in this new creation of Hers, even if

> She

> > > > doesn't give me what I want, She has to give me something,

> since

> > I

> > > > have asked for Her guidance and help. My Pranams to everyone!

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Hari Om Beloved,

I chanted the Chandi once through with a teacher and had several heart

opening and moving experiences. I could see very clearly how She was

working in my life. I started chanting it again on my own when Shree

Maa and Swamiji started the 1,000 day Yajna. I haven't had the same

intensity of experience while chanting on my own and have found

myself "getting through it" some mornings. But,overall, I would say

that in combination with other saddhana and renewed closeness with my

Guru, that I feel something is moving, shifting in my life. I am more

relaxed with my children and have relief from 3 years of chronic

physical pain--not to mention freedom from some emotional pain,too.

I have experienced more abundance in the form of more students in the

yoga classes I teach--more students in need of healing. They are all

so beautiful, too--just lovely.

So, I'm glad I've stuck with it and I will continue--like all the

other saddhana. Jai Maa! Again and again, Jai Maa!

Sweet Blessings and much love,

Lynne

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jesuisdurga

Saturday, October 11, 2003 6:29 PM

Jai Chandi Maa.

Thanks much Rudran2.Jai Chandi Maa ! I must pay more attention to the

translation . I have been focussing on the getting the chant straight.

Can the members share their experiences chanting the Chandi ?My

experience is one of 'I hafta do it' and stick with it. I havent

fallen in love with it as yet , but I know that if I do the time ,

Durga will respond . She's gonna get tired of my squeals aka chants

SOME day :))) , "rudran2"

<stechiekov> wrote:> Laksmi is a vital componet in the

composition of Durga. There are > various chapters within the Chandi

dedicated to Laksmi. Laksmi > carries things forward and also brings

things to completion. > > I am sorry, but I know very little of

Saraswati. I do have a fine > murti to her. I might have to wait for

the Devi Mandir to publish a > Saraswati Puja. Short of this I might

purchase the DM's little > Sarawati booklet for children. That way I

should be able to glean > some knowledge of her.> > --- In

, "jesuisdurga" <jesuisdurga> >

wrote:> > Can someone explain what is special about Laksmi or

Sarasvati - I > bow > > to all Gods and Goddesses - but quite

honestly I think they dont > have > > the dash of Durga or the sheer

power or Kali. > > > > Durga Mata Ki Jai !> > > > --- In

, "rudran2" <stechiekov> > wrote:> >

> I too had a good time doing Laksmi Puja yesterday twice. I wrote >

> down > > > stuff on my note to Devi and at least one of them seems

to be > > already > > > well underway. This shows that Laksmi moves

her pujaries toward > the > > > fulfillment of their goals not unlike

an arrow moving rapidly > > through > > > the air. Persistance on our

own part helps too. I am not sure > what > > > the Goddess has to do,

but I certainly most continue my > practices. > > > > > > --- In

, "nandu_108" <n_mallan> > > wrote:>

> > > I wrote down my goals and gave it to Mother Lakshmi. Now I am >

all > > > set > > > > to recieve Her blessing in this new creation of

Hers, even if > She > > > > doesn't give me what I want, She has to

give me something, > since > > I > > > > have asked for Her guidance

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Hello, Lynne,

 

I read your experience with chanting the Chandi Path with great

interest. Can you offer some advice to a novice to the Chandi

regarding pronunciation? Perhaps you might know of a

reference/resource to help with pronouncing the transliteration (not

learning Sanskrit per se). I listened to the online Chandi Path

class from Devi Mandir and I have their CD, but they, of course,

chant in a natural manner for them, which is too fast for me to

learn from. Sooo...I have been searching for help. I searched

endlessly online with little more than a list of the letters and

sparse pronunciation keys. Might you know of something more?

Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to offer.

 

All Love,

Karen

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I'm new to the chanting the Chandi too. I learn by means of hearing

it over and over, so I play the chapter I'm learning over and over.

I put it on repeat and will listen for a day and then see what my

subconscious picked up by listening. The mind will pick up the flow

that way and then pronunciation is easier. When I learned various

operas in italien, french, german I would pronouce each word about 5

times to get it. After practicing 1 italian song, the rest get more

'oiled' and it's easier to learn.

 

I've noticed with learning the Chandi over the last 2 weeks when I

started, that my learning is getting 'oiled', my tongue is flowing

with less effort and it's coming quite fast actually. I've surprised

myself. I would like to learn in 3 months time, but we'll see what

MaChandi has in store for me. The chapters are not that long

actually. If you break them down and learn 1 chapter every 2-3 days

it should be easier if you listen to Maa chant over and over and

over. At first Maa's chanting slowing seemed fast for me, but when

you listen like a broken record all day long, it comes. Your mind

will remember and pick it up faster. If you jump right in without

listening to it it will be more laborious I have found.

 

I'm definately curious to find out how others approached learning this work as I am

learning it.

 

Namaste,

Kellykbbookbag <karenborak (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Hello, Lynne,I read your experience with chanting the Chandi Path with

great interest. Can you offer some advice to a novice to the Chandi

regarding pronunciation? Perhaps you might know of a

reference/resource to help with pronouncing the transliteration (not

learning Sanskrit per se). I listened to the online Chandi Path

class from Devi Mandir and I have their CD, but they, of course,

chant in a natural manner for them, which is too fast for me to learn

from. Sooo...I have been searching for help. I searched endlessly

online with little more than a list of the letters and sparse

pronunciation keys. Might you know of something more? Thanks in

advance for any help you might be able to offer.All Love,KarenTo

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Kelly, thanks for your input. The audio approach works great for

auditory learners, and I wish I were one. However, I am

predominantly a visual learner so I need to be able to see the words

to say them correctly. Unfortunately, the transliteration is very

hard for me because I can't say what I see. (Does that make

sense?) So there is where I am looking for help. To learn how to

pronounce the transliteration letters, especially with their many

and various diacritical markings. I listen to the Chandi cd a lot,

but I really need a sort of bookish support to make it "take root"

in this recalcitrant mind of mine. Thanks again.

 

All Love,

Karen

 

, Kelly Leeper <blissnout>

wrote:

> Karen,

>

> I'm new to the chanting the Chandi too. I learn by means of

hearing it over and over, so I play the chapter I'm learning over

and over. I put it on repeat and will listen for a day and then see

what my subconscious picked up by listening. The mind will pick up

the flow that way and then pronunciation is easier. When I learned

various operas in italien, french, german I would pronouce each word

about 5 times to get it. After practicing 1 italian song, the rest

get more 'oiled' and it's easier to learn.

>

> I've noticed with learning the Chandi over the last 2 weeks when I

started, that my learning is getting 'oiled', my tongue is flowing

with less effort and it's coming quite fast actually. I've

surprised myself. I would like to learn in 3 months time, but we'll

see what MaChandi has in store for me. The chapters are not that

long actually. If you break them down and learn 1 chapter every 2-3

days it should be easier if you listen to Maa chant over and over

and over. At first Maa's chanting slowing seemed fast for me, but

when you listen like a broken record all day long, it comes. Your

mind will remember and pick it up faster. If you jump right in

without listening to it it will be more laborious I have found.

>

> I'm definately curious to find out how others approached learning

this work as I am

> learning it.

>

> Namaste,

> Kelly

>

> kbbookbag <karenborak@e...> wrote:

> Hello, Lynne,

>

> I read your experience with chanting the Chandi Path with great

> interest. Can you offer some advice to a novice to the Chandi

> regarding pronunciation? Perhaps you might know of a

> reference/resource to help with pronouncing the transliteration

(not

> learning Sanskrit per se). I listened to the online Chandi Path

> class from Devi Mandir and I have their CD, but they, of course,

> chant in a natural manner for them, which is too fast for me to

> learn from. Sooo...I have been searching for help. I searched

> endlessly online with little more than a list of the letters and

> sparse pronunciation keys. Might you know of something more?

> Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to offer.

>

> All Love,

> Karen

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Let me brainstorm abit. What happens when you sit and repeat the

words several times without meter or intonation as if you were just

speaking? Does that help?

It's so easy to think other people are audial learners and I know that

is not the case, so let me think on this. I ran into many different

voice students who learned differently, but I can't remember if the

visual approach without the audio worked since we were all singers

and all had very acute hearing. My hearing tends to be very

sensitive, almost canine per my Dr, so your right, I am an audial

learner.

Where are you Karen? What part of the world? It's too bad they don't

have a "hooked on phonics" for sanskrit. I love to try anyway

possible to teach a person. Teaching has to do with how the student

learns, not the way the teacher wants to teach so finding the right

approach for you is important. Can you remember how you learned

english? Would that same method help you in the Chandi? Sometimes

just speaking, getting used to how the mouth feels when certain words

are pronouced and of course it takes repitition. My boyfriend is very

precise when it comes to sanskrit, so if there is anything I can find

out from him, I will let you know.

Can you provide an example of a phrase that stumps you and what happens?

Namaste,Kelly

kbbookbag <karenborak (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Kelly, thanks for your input. The audio approach works great for

auditory learners, and I wish I were one. However, I am

predominantly a visual learner so I need to be able to see the words

to say them correctly. Unfortunately, the transliteration is very

hard for me because I can't say what I see. (Does that make sense?)

So there is where I am looking for help. To learn how to pronounce

the transliteration letters, especially with their many and various

diacritical markings. I listen to the Chandi cd a lot, but I really

need a sort of bookish support to make it "take root" in this

recalcitrant mind of mine. Thanks again.All Love,Karen--- In

, Kelly Leeper <blissnout> wrote:>

Karen,> > I'm new to the chanting

the Chandi too. I learn by means of hearing it over and over, so I

play the chapter I'm learning over and over. I put it on repeat and

will listen for a day and then see what my subconscious picked up by

listening. The mind will pick up the flow that way and then

pronunciation is easier. When I learned various operas in italien,

french, german I would pronouce each word about 5 times to get it.

After practicing 1 italian song, the rest get more 'oiled' and it's

easier to learn.> > I've noticed with learning the Chandi over the

last 2 weeks when I started, that my learning is getting 'oiled', my

tongue is flowing with less effort and it's coming quite fast

actually. I've surprised myself. I would like to learn in 3 months

time, but we'll see what MaChandi has in store for me. The chapters

are not that long actually. If you break them down and learn 1

chapter

every 2-3 days it should be easier if you listen to Maa chant over and

over and over. At first Maa's chanting slowing seemed fast for me,

but when you listen like a broken record all day long, it comes.

Your mind will remember and pick it up faster. If you jump right in

without listening to it it will be more laborious I have found.> >

I'm definately curious to find out how others approached learning

this work as I am> learning it.> > Namaste,> Kelly> > kbbookbag

<karenborak@e...> wrote:> Hello, Lynne,> > I read your experience

with chanting the Chandi Path with great > interest. Can you offer

some advice to a novice to the Chandi > regarding pronunciation?

Perhaps you might know of a > reference/resource to help with

pronouncing the transliteration (not > learning Sanskrit per se). I

listened to

the online Chandi Path > class from Devi Mandir and I have their CD,

but they, of course, > chant in a natural manner for them, which is

too fast for me to > learn from. Sooo...I have been searching for

help. I searched > endlessly online with little more than a list of

the letters and > sparse pronunciation keys. Might you know of

something more? > Thanks in advance for any help you might be able

to offer.> > All Love,> Karen> > > Sponsor> To

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Is reading your reply again, I wanted to know if this is your first

undertaking of sanskrit? In pronunciation, sanskrit to me, feels

more sensual because there are more feelings in the mouth when

certain words or diacritical marks are placed in the mouth or body.

Did that make sense?

My understanding of sanskrit and it could be my way of learning again,

is based on where consonants and vowels 'feel' in the body, how they

are pronounced and where they resonate in the mouth and body. Or is

the stumbing block in how it's written?

For example from Durga Suktam:

prtana-jitagm saha-mana-mugramagnigm huvema paramathsadhasthat.

Looking at that my eye's tweek, but if I write it on a separate peice

of paper here is what it would look like for me:

Pritana-geetagoom, saha mana moogram agni goom. Hoo vema paramat sadhast at uh.

If spelling it differently helps, by all means, spell it differently.

There is a girl at my temple who is also a singer, but she rewrites

everything phonetically like I have above for learning purposes. Is

this what you mean?

Namaste,kellyKelly Leeper <blissnout > wrote:

Karen,

Let me brainstorm abit. What happens when you sit and repeat the

words several times without meter or intonation as if you were just

speaking? Does that help?

It's so easy to think other people are audial learners and I know that

is not the case, so let me think on this. I ran into many different

voice students who learned differently, but I can't remember if the

visual approach without the audio worked since we were all singers

and all had very acute hearing. My hearing tends to be very

sensitive, almost canine per my Dr, so your right, I am an audial

learner.

Where are you Karen? What part of the world? It's too bad they don't

have a "hooked on phonics" for sanskrit. I love to try anyway

possible to teach a person. Teaching has to do with how the student

learns, not the way the teacher wants to teach so finding the right

approach for you is important. Can you remember how you learned

english? Would that same method help you in the Chandi? Sometimes

just speaking, getting used to how the mouth feels when certain words

are pronouced and of course it takes repitition. My boyfriend is very

precise when it comes to sanskrit, so if there is anything I can find

out from him, I will let you know.

Can you provide an example of a phrase that stumps you and what happens?

Namaste,Kelly

kbbookbag <karenborak (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Kelly, thanks for your input. The audio approach works great for

auditory learners, and I wish I were one. However, I am

predominantly a visual learner so I need to be able to see the words

to say them correctly. Unfortunately, the transliteration is very

hard for me because I can't say what I see. (Does that make sense?)

So there is where I am looking for help. To learn how to pronounce

the transliteration letters, especially with their many and various

diacritical markings. I listen to the Chandi cd a lot, but I really

need a sort of bookish support to make it "take root" in this

recalcitrant mind of mine. Thanks again.All Love,Karen--- In

, Kelly Leeper <blissnout> wrote:>

Karen,> > I'm new to the chanting

the Chandi too. I learn by means of hearing it over and over, so I

play the chapter I'm learning over and over. I put it on repeat and

will listen for a day and then see what my subconscious picked up by

listening. The mind will pick up the flow that way and then

pronunciation is easier. When I learned various operas in italien,

french, german I would pronouce each word about 5 times to get it.

After practicing 1 italian song, the rest get more 'oiled' and it's

easier to learn.> > I've noticed with learning the Chandi over the

last 2 weeks when I started, that my learning is getting 'oiled', my

tongue is flowing with less effort and it's coming quite fast

actually. I've surprised myself. I would like to learn in 3 months

time, but we'll see what MaChandi has in store for me. The chapters

are not that long actually. If you break them down and learn 1

chapter

every 2-3 days it should be easier if you listen to Maa chant over and

over and over. At first Maa's chanting slowing seemed fast for me,

but when you listen like a broken record all day long, it comes.

Your mind will remember and pick it up faster. If you jump right in

without listening to it it will be more laborious I have found.> >

I'm definately curious to find out how others approached learning

this work as I am> learning it.> > Namaste,> Kelly> > kbbookbag

<karenborak@e...> wrote:> Hello, Lynne,> > I read your experience

with chanting the Chandi Path with great > interest. Can you offer

some advice to a novice to the Chandi > regarding pronunciation?

Perhaps you might know of a > reference/resource to help with

pronouncing the transliteration (not > learning Sanskrit per se). I

listened to

the online Chandi Path > class from Devi Mandir and I have their CD,

but they, of course, > chant in a natural manner for them, which is

too fast for me to > learn from. Sooo...I have been searching for

help. I searched > endlessly online with little more than a list of

the letters and > sparse pronunciation keys. Might you know of

something more? > Thanks in advance for any help you might be able

to offer.> > All Love,> Karen> > > Sponsor> To

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Hari Om Karen,

I learned the basic pronunciations from my teacher who learned them

from Swamiji when he was touring a while back. They are far from

perfect, but by keeping the pronunciation "rules" to a minimum I have

found a very satisfying "feel" to these words. The rhythm of the

chanting varies, but mostly is the "anustup". This I do in a

sing-song pattern using one breath to complete each line. The whole

Chandi Path I see now as a regulation of the breath, the prana.

There is a pronunciation key in the back of the book, but the most

important ones to remember (and took awhile to "get down") were: c =

the ch sound; any s with a symbol = sh sound; any plain s = regular s

sound. Swamiji lists the whole alphabet and the pronunciations, but I

found that by keeping it simple and trying to get these right, then I

kept myself chanting. Now that I've done it twice through I have

confidence that She can understand me and, if nothing else, my

intentions. I try to just chant with beauty and offer it that way.

I hope this helps you. Much love. Thank you for your question.

Jai Maa!

Lynne

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kbbookbag

Sunday, October 12, 2003 2:18 PM

Re: Jai Chandi Maa.

Hello, Lynne,I read your experience with chanting the Chandi Path with

great interest. Can you offer some advice to a novice to the Chandi

regarding pronunciation? Perhaps you might know of a

reference/resource to help with pronouncing the transliteration (not

learning Sanskrit per se). I listened to the online Chandi Path

class from Devi Mandir and I have their CD, but they, of course,

chant in a natural manner for them, which is too fast for me to learn

from. Sooo...I have been searching for help. I searched endlessly

online with little more than a list of the letters and sparse

pronunciation keys. Might you know of something more? Thanks in

advance for any help you might be able to offer.All Love,KarenTo

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Hi Karen,

When I stated chanting the Chandi (I think I've said this

before...oh, well...)I just had the book and the tapes with Maa and

Swamiji's voices. I just stated on the first page and stumbled

along. At the Mandir I got more instruction on adding pranayama. I

just felt so connected to my Gurus through their voices that it

didn't matter how my pronunciation was. With time AND practice it

comes.

Also the Chandi classes by Swamiji are so inspiring, I just want to

keep chanting until She comes! hope this works for you. :)

 

Gauri

, "kbbookbag" <karenborak@e...>

wrote:

> Hello, Lynne,

>

> I read your experience with chanting the Chandi Path with great

> interest. Can you offer some advice to a novice to the Chandi

> regarding pronunciation? Perhaps you might know of a

> reference/resource to help with pronouncing the transliteration

(not

> learning Sanskrit per se). I listened to the online Chandi Path

> class from Devi Mandir and I have their CD, but they, of course,

> chant in a natural manner for them, which is too fast for me to

> learn from. Sooo...I have been searching for help. I searched

> endlessly online with little more than a list of the letters and

> sparse pronunciation keys. Might you know of something more?

> Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to offer.

>

> All Love,

> Karen

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Karen,

I'm primarily visual too. When I first learned the Guru Gita, I had

to write out every word with English phonetics. So time-consuming!

Then I would chant with the tape using my "text". But the only way I

could learn it.

 

Astraea

 

, "kbbookbag" <karenborak@e...>

wrote:

> Kelly, thanks for your input. The audio approach works great for

> auditory learners, and I wish I were one. However, I am

> predominantly a visual learner so I need to be able to see the

words

> to say them correctly. Unfortunately, the transliteration is very

> hard for me because I can't say what I see. (Does that make

> sense?) So there is where I am looking for help. To learn how to

> pronounce the transliteration letters, especially with their many

> and various diacritical markings. I listen to the Chandi cd a lot,

> but I really need a sort of bookish support to make it "take root"

> in this recalcitrant mind of mine. Thanks again.

>

> All Love,

> Karen

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Kelly,

You're so lucky to have that kind of sharp hearing!

 

Astraea

 

, Kelly Leeper <blissnout>

wrote:

> Karen,

>

> Let me brainstorm abit. What happens when you sit and repeat the

words several times without meter or intonation as if you were just

speaking? Does that help?

>

> It's so easy to think other people are audial learners and I know

that is not the case, so let me think on this. I ran into many

different voice students who learned differently, but I can't

remember if the visual approach without the audio worked since we

were all singers and all had very acute hearing. My hearing tends to

be very sensitive, almost canine per my Dr, so your right, I am an

audial learner.

>

> Where are you Karen? What part of the world? It's too bad they

don't have a "hooked on phonics" for sanskrit. I love to try anyway

possible to teach a person. Teaching has to do with how the student

learns, not the way the teacher wants to teach so finding the right

approach for you is important. Can you remember how you learned

english? Would that same method help you in the Chandi? Sometimes

just speaking, getting used to how the mouth feels when certain words

are pronouced and of course it takes repitition. My boyfriend is

very precise when it comes to sanskrit, so if there is anything I can

find out from him, I will let you know.

>

> Can you provide an example of a phrase that stumps you and what

happens?

>

> Namaste,

> Kelly

>

>

> kbbookbag <karenborak@e...> wrote:

> Kelly, thanks for your input. The audio approach works great for

> auditory learners, and I wish I were one. However, I am

> predominantly a visual learner so I need to be able to see the

words

> to say them correctly. Unfortunately, the transliteration is very

> hard for me because I can't say what I see. (Does that make

> sense?) So there is where I am looking for help. To learn how to

> pronounce the transliteration letters, especially with their many

> and various diacritical markings. I listen to the Chandi cd a lot,

> but I really need a sort of bookish support to make it "take root"

> in this recalcitrant mind of mine. Thanks again.

>

> All Love,

> Karen

>

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> > Karen,

> >

> > I'm new to the chanting the Chandi too. I learn by means of

> hearing it over and over, so I play the chapter I'm learning over

> and over. I put it on repeat and will listen for a day and then

see

> what my subconscious picked up by listening. The mind will pick up

> the flow that way and then pronunciation is easier. When I learned

> various operas in italien, french, german I would pronouce each

word

> about 5 times to get it. After practicing 1 italian song, the rest

> get more 'oiled' and it's easier to learn.

> >

> > I've noticed with learning the Chandi over the last 2 weeks when

I

> started, that my learning is getting 'oiled', my tongue is flowing

> with less effort and it's coming quite fast actually. I've

> surprised myself. I would like to learn in 3 months time, but

we'll

> see what MaChandi has in store for me. The chapters are not that

> long actually. If you break them down and learn 1 chapter every 2-

3

> days it should be easier if you listen to Maa chant over and over

> and over. At first Maa's chanting slowing seemed fast for me, but

> when you listen like a broken record all day long, it comes. Your

> mind will remember and pick it up faster. If you jump right in

> without listening to it it will be more laborious I have found.

> >

> > I'm definately curious to find out how others approached learning

> this work as I am

> > learning it.

> >

> > Namaste,

> > Kelly

> >

> > kbbookbag <karenborak@e...> wrote:

> > Hello, Lynne,

> >

> > I read your experience with chanting the Chandi Path with great

> > interest. Can you offer some advice to a novice to the Chandi

> > regarding pronunciation? Perhaps you might know of a

> > reference/resource to help with pronouncing the transliteration

> (not

> > learning Sanskrit per se). I listened to the online Chandi Path

> > class from Devi Mandir and I have their CD, but they, of course,

> > chant in a natural manner for them, which is too fast for me to

> > learn from. Sooo...I have been searching for help. I searched

> > endlessly online with little more than a list of the letters and

> > sparse pronunciation keys. Might you know of something more?

> > Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to offer.

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Pranams and good luck with your studies and devotions.

Arjuna

kbbookbag <karenborak (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Kelly, thanks for your input. The audio approach works great for

auditory learners, and I wish I were one. However, I am

predominantly a visual learner so I need to be able to see the words

to say them correctly. Unfortunately, the transliteration is very

hard for me because I can't say what I see. (Does that make sense?)

So there is where I am looking for help. To learn how to pronounce

the transliteration letters, especially with their many and various

diacritical markings. I listen to the Chandi cd a lot, but I really

need a sort of bookish support to make it "take root" in this

recalcitrant mind of mine. Thanks again.All Love,Karen--- In

, Kelly Leeper <blissnout> wrote:>

Karen,> > I'm new to the chanting

the Chandi too. I learn by means of hearing it over and over, so I

play the chapter I'm learning over and over. I put it on repeat and

will listen for a day and then see what my subconscious picked up by

listening. The mind will pick up the flow that way and then

pronunciation is easier. When I learned various operas in italien,

french, german I would pronouce each word about 5 times to get it.

After practicing 1 italian song, the rest get more 'oiled' and it's

easier to learn.> > I've noticed with learning the Chandi over the

last 2 weeks when I started, that my learning is getting 'oiled', my

tongue is flowing with less effort and it's coming quite fast

actually. I've surprised myself. I would like to learn in 3 months

time, but we'll see what MaChandi has in store for me. The chapters

are not that long actually. If you break them down and learn 1

chapter

every 2-3 days it should be easier if you listen to Maa chant over and

over and over. At first Maa's chanting slowing seemed fast for me,

but when you listen like a broken record all day long, it comes.

Your mind will remember and pick it up faster. If you jump right in

without listening to it it will be more laborious I have found.> >

I'm definately curious to find out how others approached learning

this work as I am> learning it.> > Namaste,> Kelly> > kbbookbag

<karenborak@e...> wrote:> Hello, Lynne,> > I read your experience

with chanting the Chandi Path with great > interest. Can you offer

some advice to a novice to the Chandi > regarding pronunciation?

Perhaps you might know of a > reference/resource to help with

pronouncing the transliteration (not > learning Sanskrit per se). I

listened to

the online Chandi Path > class from Devi Mandir and I have their CD,

but they, of course, > chant in a natural manner for them, which is

too fast for me to > learn from. Sooo...I have been searching for

help. I searched > endlessly online with little more than a list of

the letters and > sparse pronunciation keys. Might you know of

something more? > Thanks in advance for any help you might be able

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It's really not that great. You'd think I was the bionic woman with

that statement. With all the rebirthing and pranayama in my early

20's my vata became a little imbalanced. It has made me even more

hypersensitive to sounds and noises to where I needed solitude and

quiet most of the time. I coudn't stomach anything harsh or lie's.

The nervous system is ruled by the Vata in the body. The breath

being Vata (&Pitta) will clean the marma's/nadi's and the body,

however when I 'couldn't hold Ma's 'liguor' so to speak, it was

interesting how the shakti coming up the spine/body would stop at my

jaw/ears before I would black out. I think I have a knot up in my

upper chakra's and maybe that's the reason my ears have that

sensitivity. This is just a guess. But it's not that great because

I have not learned how to 'turn it off' The less pranayam I do will

help turn it off, but that's no good either. I

think thats why my Guru says that if I am to do soo much pranayama

that I should renounce in order to not have too much stimulus and be

celebate for the Ojas factor. I think it's good advice and would

have taken him up on renouncing, but the convent wasn't the right

place to do the type of sadhana I need to do.

My beloved Guru is very encourageing for me to create my own ashram,

but the money factor comes into play there. The Vedanta Society is a

great place to renounce if puja, meditation, reading, japa is your

sadhana. It's absolutely beautiful, however I told him, I need my

jacuzzi for rebirthing and my dhuni and alot of space and permission

to go to my sweat lodges. To my Guru, jacuzzi was luxury isntead of

Maa's womb. The dhuni was just weird to him especially for a

westerner to want that and attending sweat lodges was a no-no to the

nun's, after all, I'm naked when I go there and do sweats with men or

women. The nude factor is a free factor, but nothing a 'nun' should

be doing. So renoucing wasn't just renouncing, it was adopting

limiting views and social repressions that would not have serviced my

sadhana.

Nope, not the bionic woman. After my first blackout the Dr when

looking at my concussion after the hearing test said, you hear

vibrations like a dog. They are not audible to the human

ear...intersting. Thats when I started studying ayurveda and

learning about the subtle elements with what I was doing. It's all

good. It's all learning and even if I bump my noggin, at least it

happened a few times.

Namaste,

Kellyastraea2003 <astraea2003 > wrote:

Kelly,You're so lucky to have that kind of sharp hearing!Astraea--- In

, Kelly Leeper <blissnout> wrote:>

Karen,> > Let me brainstorm abit. What happens when you sit and

repeat the words several times without meter or intonation as if you

were just speaking? Does that help? > > It's so easy to think

other people are audial learners and I know that is not the case, so

let me think on this. I ran into many different voice students who

learned differently, but I can't remember if the visual approach

without the audio worked since we were all singers and all had very

acute hearing. My hearing tends to be very sensitive, almost canine

per my Dr, so your right, I am an audial learner.> > Where

are you Karen? What part of the world? It's too bad they don't have a

"hooked on phonics" for sanskrit. I love to try anyway possible to

teach a person. Teaching has to do with how the student learns, not

the way the teacher wants to teach so finding the right approach for

you is important. Can you remember how you learned english? Would

that same method help you in the Chandi? Sometimes just speaking,

getting used to how the mouth feels when certain words are pronouced

and of course it takes repitition. My boyfriend is very precise when

it comes to sanskrit, so if there is anything I can find out from him,

I will let you know. > > Can you provide an example of a phrase that

stumps you and what happens?> > Namaste,> Kelly> > > kbbookbag

<karenborak@e...> wrote:> Kelly, thanks for your input. The audio

approach works great for > auditory learners, and I wish I were one.

However, I am > predominantly a visual learner so I need to be able

to see the words > to say them correctly. Unfortunately, the

transliteration is very > hard for me because I can't say what I see.

(Does that make > sense?) So there is where I am looking for help.

To learn how to > pronounce the transliteration letters, especially

with their many > and various diacritical markings. I listen to the

Chandi cd a lot, > but I really need a sort of bookish support to

make it "take root" > in this recalcitrant mind of mine. Thanks

again.> > All Love,> Karen> > ,

Kelly Leeper <blissnout> > wrote:> > Karen,> > > > I'm new to

the chanting the Chandi too. I learn by means of >

hearing it over and over, so I play the chapter I'm learning over >

and over. I put it on repeat and will listen for a day and then see

> what my subconscious picked up by listening. The mind will pick up

> the flow that way and then pronunciation is easier. When I learned

> various operas in italien, french, german I would pronouce each

word > about 5 times to get it. After practicing 1 italian song, the

rest > get more 'oiled' and it's easier to learn.> > > > I've noticed

with learning the Chandi over the last 2 weeks when I > started, that

my learning is getting 'oiled', my tongue is flowing > with less

effort and it's coming quite fast actually. I've > surprised myself.

I would like to learn in 3 months time, but we'll > see what MaChandi

has in store for me. The chapters are not that > long actually. If

you

break them down and learn 1 chapter every 2-3 > days it should be

easier if you listen to Maa chant over and over > and over. At first

Maa's chanting slowing seemed fast for me, but > when you listen like

a broken record all day long, it comes. Your > mind will remember

and pick it up faster. If you jump right in > without listening to

it it will be more laborious I have found.> > > > I'm definately

curious to find out how others approached learning > this work as I

am> > learning it.> > > > Namaste,> > Kelly> > > > kbbookbag

<karenborak@e...> wrote:> > Hello, Lynne,> > > > I read your

experience with chanting the Chandi Path with great > > interest.

Can you offer some advice to a novice to the Chandi > > regarding

pronunciation? Perhaps you might know of a

> > reference/resource to help with pronouncing the transliteration >

(not > > learning Sanskrit per se). I listened to the online Chandi

Path > > class from Devi Mandir and I have their CD, but they, of

course, > > chant in a natural manner for them, which is too fast for

me to > > learn from. Sooo...I have been searching for help. I

searched > > endlessly online with little more than a list of the

letters and > > sparse pronunciation keys. Might you know of

something more? > > Thanks in advance for any help you might be able

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