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Bhakta Don Muntean

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So today we saw demoniac attacks in London - last week in India - so much chaos.

 

I think it is important to see this - less as a demon issue and - more as a kuli [quarrel] yuga issue.

 

Our world is now too surcharged with the qualities of passion and ignorance - and in the present age - there is quarrel over trivial matters - what to speak of actually 'provoking' people!

 

For the evil of terrorist attacks there are NO excuses - but - there are causes - and - we hardly hear a mention from the western leaders about these real causes.

 

Of course - some of these leaders - who are fuel to these causes - have no desire to see the baiting stop. No the point and counter-point - is calculated.

 

As noted in this

posting:

 

'Considering that their propaganda centers around a militated [and militarisation] teaching of an emerging ‘‘world government’’ - ‘‘the beast government’’ - which they say is [at this time] the ‘‘European Union’’ - declaring the E.U. - to be a so-called - ““satanic revived roman empire”” - it thus becomes a conflicted scenario - when we see the leaders in the U.S.A. ascribe to this theology.

We know that to some extent - these extremist ideologies and all their ill-motivated implications are embraced by Mr. George W. Bush.

 

Certainly Mr. Bush may think and believe whatever he likes - even ill-reasoned illusions - yet he as the leader of the most weaponized nation in the world - could one day present himself as a [further] global menace - in respect to how his 'doctrines' [continue to] affect U.S. foreign policies.'

 

His comments today - made to the asuras responsible - 'bring it on' - say it all - he is baiting them!

 

Now he can hijack this G-8 summit's purpose and over-ride it with his war mongering.

 

In the pages of Bhagavata Purana we hear how one pious King felt after the great war that ushered in this age of quarrel - he certainly wasn't apatetic about the loss caused by his orders:

 

"King Yudhishtira said: O my lot! I am the most sinful man! Just see my heart, which is full of ignorance! This body, which is ultimately meant for others, has killed many, many phalanxes of men...I have killed many boys, bräähmaëëas, well-wishers, friends, parents, preceptors and brothers. Though I live millions of years, I will not be relieved from the hell that awaits me for all these sins...There is no sin for a king who kills for the right cause, who is engaged in maintaining his citizens. But this injunction is not applicable to me." [srimad Bhagavatam 1.8.48-50]

 

In His purport Srila Prabhupada notes:

 

"...It was simply horrible for him to think of such killing, and therefore he was thinking of residing in hell for millions and billions of years."

So of course I wonder - do all these 'leaders' with blood on their hands think that - 'There is no sin for a king who kills for the right cause, who is engaged in maintaining his citizens' - because that isn't the case in their 'point and counter-point' scenario.

 

I listened in the past to Mr. Bush say that he doesn't ever wonder about the propriety of his choices to invade Iraq and thus cause the death and displacement of millions of innocent people.

 

Without doubt the people of Iraq see Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair as terrorists. A matter of perspective?

 

AS noted the western leaders have permitted the world to be very unequal - there is excess in one part and - nothing in others.

 

We must not forget that there are so many non-humans being snuffed out at every moment - for gut and pocket-book and what is the result?

 

Prabhupada says:

 

"...when the demoniac population of thieves, rogues, and criminals steadily increases, the kingdom is filled with chaos and terror."

 

So what happens we all live in a state of terror - all at the mercy of their point and counter-point non-sense!

 

We are all to be terrorized soon - soon - no freedom of speech - it may be called sedition mongering better keep my mouth shut - so even now - everyone is terrorized - they must be brave to speak-out against western rogues baiting of other rogues in the under-developed areas of the globe.

 

So now on the plea of national security and this unending manufactured 'emergency' - we have lost all sense of normal life - nope no life - we all must live in fear? What is that? Is that life? When shall we ask ourselves 'do I have to live under terrorism conditions' - I must do it?

 

It is not the life we all were led to believe we would have.

 

Srila Prabhupada says:

 

"...The people are innocent, we have seen this everywhere...it is only...rascal leaders who have spoiled everything by fooling the people for their personal advantage..." [Letter to Amarendra 4/03/72]

 

Also Prabhupada said:

 

"...At the present moment these rulers are so powerful that by hook or by crook they capture the highest posts in government and harass countless numbers of people on the plea of national security or some emergency. Then again, one asura defeats another asura, but the public continues to suffer. Therefore the entire world is in a precarious condition..." [sB 10.3.21]

"...This is a civilization where a blind man is guiding a few others or many other blind men. So what is this civilization? The leader, he is a rascal. He does not know what is the aim of life, and he has become leader. So many talking..." [bhagavatam lecture April 16, 1976]

 

So of course that is a fact of life in America now - with their 'patriot act' - and if certain leaders there get their way - that'll be the fact of life everywhere!

 

Today I hear Mr. Bush 'talking' about the hate and evil within the hearts of the rogue leaders [who killed and injured innocent people in today's attack] - but when will he see that hate and evil is seeded out from his own heart?

 

We need to see the 'real leaders' at the executive head within this world force/create a proper scenario wherein these fascist rogue leaders [from ALL nations] have no theaters to 'play' in - no more global power for them by a collective decision - to cut them off.

 

These point counter-point leaders will go on and on - we must all decide NOW that their relevance has been invalidated - by the saner section of humanity - any honest leader cannot stay with 'these' so-called 'government men'.

 

The good leaders in our world may still want to rally around Bush and Co. and that is clearly - a mistake - and there is no doubt - what Krishna says is all important here:

 

"And that action performed in ignorance and delusion without consideration of future bondage or consequences, which inflicts injury and is impractical, is said to be action in the mode of ignorance." [bG 18.25]

 

What is it going to take for them to address the causes of this political terror?

 

Of course - the head of the state should never fail in chasing an real enemy - but neither should they cultivate them by ill-dealing!

 

In the Sri Ishopanishad text two - the cause is indirectly outlined:

 

"Everything animate or inanimate that is within the universe is controlled and owned by the Lord. One should therefore accept only those things necessary for himself, which are set aside as his quota, and one should not accept other things, knowing well to whom they belong."

 

So therein is the problem - 'one should therefore accept only those things necessary for himself, which are set aside as his quota, and one should not accept other things' - and what does Srila Prabhupada say:

 

"...In modern society there is always a great quarrel between the laborers and the capitalists.

 

This quarrel has taken an international shape, and the world is in danger.

Men face one another in enmity and snarl just like cats and dogs.

 

Sri Ishopanishad cannot give advice to the cats and dogs, but it can deliver the message of Godhead to man through the bona fide acaryas (holy teachers).

 

The human race should take the Vedic wisdom of Sri Ishopanishad and not quarrel over material possessions...

 

There can be no peace if the communists or capitalists or any other party claims proprietorship over the resources of nature, which are entirely the property of the Lord.

 

The capitalists cannot curb the communists simply by political maneuvering, nor can the communists defeat the capitalists simply by fighting for stolen bread.

 

If they do not recognize the proprietorship of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, all the property they claim to be their own is stolen.

 

Consequently they will be liable to punishment by the laws of nature. Nuclear bombs are in the hands of both communists and capitalists, and if both do not recognize the proprietorship of the Supreme Lord, it is certain that these bombs will ultimately ruin both parties..." [iso mantra 2]

 

Srila Prabhupada also says:

 

"...There is no head. They are thinking simply arms wanted, defense, and fight amongst themselves. That’’s all. Everyone is thinking simply arms wanted. And what they will do with the arms? Fight between themselves, that’’s all..." [interview June 18, 1976]

 

In historical context:

 

"...Just like the atomic bomb. They are meant for creating disaster, that’’s all. What else they can do? And now everyone is having atomic weapon, just like India has now got. That means they are preparing, by nature’’s course they are preparing for war, and ““I put my atomic bomb on your head, and you put on my head. You die, I die, that’’s all.”” They simply die. Now what was the result of the disastrous war twice? The whole European nations ruined. They are not no more rich. I saw in Paris, in Germany. They are not as rich as the Americans. Because American inland, there was no such big war, so their opulence is existing, but on account of these two wars, British completely finished. Yes. British completely. It is now... Hitler wanted that...That was Hitler’’s declaration..." [conversation July 02, 1974]

 

So do we all just watch and - the history will repeat itself again? Unchecked - it will be wars again - this time they will be global.

 

Recall the point:

 

'Considering that their propaganda centers around a militated [and militarisation] teaching of an emerging ‘‘world government’’ - ‘‘the beast government’’ - which they say is [at this time] the ‘‘European Union’’ - declaring the E.U. - to be a so-called - ““satanic revived roman empire”” - it thus becomes a conflicted scenario - when we see the leaders in the U.S.A. ascribe to this theology.'

 

Of course - since the inception of the republican - 'Strategic Defense Initiative' - Program was OVER twenty years ago - it necessitates the question - WHAT is the program’’s factual - technological implementation level - at this point?

 

We might also ask whether this program has a planed abysmal surveillance system with energy-based weapons - a system able to target and strike any geographic point on the globe’’s surface?

 

What if some of the hardware they’’ve been installing in space over the last twenty years actually became such a threat? Whatever the factual situation - who can argue - the long range potentials - are not good.

 

Additionally - if this program is as they say to defend North America - and specifically the U.S. - from intercontinental ballistic missile strikes - then we must ask - just who is this ‘‘shield’’ supposed to protect ‘‘North America’’ from?

 

People may be surprised to learn that it is an ill-perceived threat from the European Union - NOT the so-called Arab rogue leaders [who aren’’t able to send missile strikes over the ocean] that the ‘‘republicans’’ have been [and are] fortifying this space-based ‘‘shield’’ for!

 

It isn’’t exactly being spurred-on by a fear of Asia’’s missile capabilities either.

 

Just see - even the NAFTA was [and is] an attempted counteraction - to the economic alliances growing out of the European Union.

 

All these point counter-point 'leaders' must soon understand - violent retaliations are not any good way of inducing reformations in each other.

 

Sometimes if someone is slighted by these governments he'll simply be thinking - "Oh when shall a vote depose these rascals?" - and when they are unable see that happen - there enters all potential that international terrorism can become domestic - just see as an example - that evil slug - Timothy Mcvey and - the Oklahoma bombing - why did he do it? There are how many anti-government militias in the U.S. - all armed to the teeth?

 

Isn't America's leaders setting up her people for domestic home spun terrorism - by harassing its citizens and - by inducing them into the 'expensive' [to the tax payer] - state of terror - in which they now live?

 

[it would seem the only choice in the next presidential election for America - is Nader - yes - RALPH NADER for PRESIDENT in 2008!

 

I think that the 'democratic party' under the Clintons has become a ill-version of 'republican light' - so - the best choice was and will be RALPH NADER - if only the world could vote for their next President - given that we all live in America's present cold dark shadow.]

 

As noted - the Israeli/Palestinian conflict must soon be resolved and - who can deny that Bush and Co. achieved nothing but ignominy through this loutish regime change in Iraq?

 

When shall it be acknowledged that they have simply spoiled everything? Expectations of violence free settlements to the political strife in the middle east - are now abjectly marginalized.

 

Leading to the invasion - Bush and Co. interfered with the members within the U.N. Security Council - yes - when they trounced everyone’’s faith in global diplomacy - by deceiving the U.N. Security Council.

 

Of course - by ‘‘spying’’ [wiretaps] on the offices of the [then] member nations of the Security Council - please don’’t forget that this ‘‘spying’’ did go on and is it still going on? [why are they even spying on ordinary people like me and you?]

 

It’’s an ill-program of machinations - ‘‘spying’’ that thus compromises the sovereignty of other leaders - leaders that they [were] are allegedly hoping to count on.

 

Who can consequently deny that they were actually seeding deep levels of distrust - and what shall be the result for the U.N.? Shall it become like the former League of Nations?

 

They have usurped global resolve - and are directing it as they see fit - and they opt out of the international criminal court - and they opt out of so much more - all that stands in the way to becoming a unilateral global director...

 

So what do we do? Do the decent leaders let it all go on?

 

Of course - in speaking to the need for the ‘‘support’’ that Bush is seeking - one does not ask for international support and then concoct nearly everyone into a being a suspect.

 

His comments - 'if you’’re not with us you’’re with the terrorists' - say it all.

 

Invading Iraq wasn’’t about protecting America.

 

One cannot overstate the resultant level of Iraqi suffering - and we are not yet sure of the consequential outcomes for Iraq - nor ultimately - the world.

 

Their actions demonstrate that the estimation of the Bush administration is that the "U.N." is now - "a useless debating club" and - "irrelevant" [their past words!] - what hope can there be for the "U.N." and those Nations who do honor it?

 

When shall the more ethical members of the U.N. see the faltering capacity for him - and millions like him - to renounce this proclivity/propaganda - which groups like his embrace?

The fact is - it was the vast support of the U.S. evangelical movements which 'installed' him in the post of president in the last election and - everyone knows that he [with help] hoodwinked his way to the post in the first election!

 

He doesn't get a third term - or shall he amend that as well? [there has been a bill put forward] Of course his party may again 'capture' the Whitehouse in 2008?

 

 

So while he and his party are now seemingly connecting with the E.U. and its leaders - now that they are in power they are seeding the next global war - with their nemesis EUROPE or their - 'satanic revived roman empire' - and the conflict will be born out of the middle east peace process.

 

So as our world [soon?] embarks upon the historic resolution of the Occupation of the Palestinians - good leaders - MUST be aware of these points about the calculative and reactive nature of regimes - headed by leaders like Mr. Bush.

 

Certainly - the leaders of the U.S. and the U.K. cannot be [in any fashion] participants to the brokering of this proper ‘‘Resolution’’.

 

The U.K. - because of their particular past histories in the region [and present complicity in Iraq] and most specifically - in affecting the original 'Partition'.

 

The U.S. - due to their past and current activities in the region - and the intimated issues surrounding Mr. Bush’’s views regarding a so-called ‘‘prophetic future’’ and thus - the future disposition of the middle east.

 

All that is needed from these two nations in the final equation - is to remit Reparations.

 

The global community is capable of fixing the problems manufactured by the colonial powers - outside their persistent intrusion and hindrances.

 

Srila Prabhupada says:

 

"This age of Kali [quarrel] will certainly be full of all activities of Kali [quarrel], but this does not mean that the leaders of society, the executive heads, the learned and intelligent men, or above all the devotees of the Lord should sit down tightly and become callous to the reactions of the age of Kali [quarrel]. In the rainy season certainly there will be profuse rainfalls, but that does not mean that men should not take means to protect themselves from the rains." [sB 1.17.28, purport]

 

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but there are beastly governments on the Earth and they are run be beastly half men half animals so I don't think the book of Revelation is wrong and lets just hope that someday these half men half beasts will yield to the wisdom of great Vaisnavas like Srila Prabhupada and Jesus Christ then possibly the world will become a peaceful place to practice Krsna/God consciousness.

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