Time to head to Montana

[Gauracandra 1]

This world is really getting sick. I'm going to predict the future. First they'll start with embryonic stem cells. Everyone will say "You want to stop progress. They are just going to go to waste if we don't use them." Then they'll start to use aborted fetuses. And again they'll say "You want to stop progress. They are just going to go to waste if we don't use them." Then they'll start using organ harvesting. Eventually what will happen is a market will develop.

 

I do believe ultimately Hitler's master race will be created. Why? Because of economics. Once the technology develops no one will be able to stop it. When the atomic bomb was created everyone thought they could control it. But now dirt poor countries like North Korea have it and the world is trying to stop it from spreading. Eventually, a China, or an India, or the U.S., or Brazil will realize if they genetically modify their people, that they will have a competitive advantage (smarter, stronger etc...). So there will be a race among countries to genetically alter humanity for economic advantage. If you don't do it you will be overrun, so the ethics will go out the door.

 

Thats where this is all going. Its the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. Once we get that knowledge, we can never go back to paradise.

 

So the question is "Must mankind be completely holy before pursuing knowledge? or can one seek out knowledge while one's character is still in need of reformation?"

 

Anyways, this story is sick regardless of the cure:

 

Abortion row fears over eye cure

 

Stem cell use is controversial

 

US scientists have successfully restored a woman's vision using eye cells taken from aborted foetuses.

 

But while hailing their results as a triumph, the University of Louisville researchers are worried critics will say they are promoting abortion.

 

The UK has clear guidelines to ensure people cannot conceive and terminate a baby to treat another person, but similar rules do not exist in the US.

 

The findings appear in New Scientist magazine.

 

Clear vision

 

Elisabeth Bryant's sight was restored by a transplant of retinal cells taken from the eyes of aborted foetuses.

 

The transformation appears not to have been a short-term effect, as the team who carried out the operation had feared.

 

Before the experimental surgery on her left eye, Elisabeth, who was 63 at the time, could barely see anything with it.

 

People are going to claim that we are promoting abortion.

 

Mr Norman Radtke, the surgeon who carried out the transplants

 

"Now I can see people's eyes, noses and mouths when they're sitting across the room from me," she told New Scientist.

 

So far, six patients with degenerative diseases of the eye - either advanced retinitis pigmentosa or another disease called macular degeneration - have received similar transplants in the US.

 

Dr Robert Aramant, who developed the technique at the University of Louisville, said: "We have shown the way. It is possible to reverse these incurable diseases."

 

Ethics

 

But his colleague Mr Norman Radtke, the surgeon who carried out the transplants, said: "People are going to claim that we are promoting abortion."

 

The team has been given the go-ahead by the US Food and Drug Administration to carry out more transplants on people with less advanced disease.

 

Earlier this week, Canadian researchers from the University of Toronto announced that they had shown that retinal stem cells taken from adults were capable of forming the cells needed to repair damaged eyes.

 

Although this method has only been tested in animals, the scientists are hopeful that it could be used to treat humans.

 

David Wong, chairman of the scientific committee of the Royal College of Ophthalmologists, said: "As ophthalmologists, we welcome research into stem cells as indeed it offers hope for patients suffering from degenerative conditions such as retinitis pigmentosa and macular degeneration.

 

"Particularly exciting is the fact that the Toronto group could harvest stem cells from adult human eyes," he said, which would overcome some of the ethical concerns.

 

A spokesman from Comment on Reproductive Ethics said using tissues from aborted foetuses was totally unnecessary.

 

"Why bother doing something that's ethically difficult or unacceptable when you can take stem cells from adults?" he said.

[theist 1]

Yeah its getting to be like some freaky bad science fiction movie from the sixties.

 

Already people are having babies with the purpose to harvest some organ or blood marrow or something for their previous baby who needs it. Kinda like getting a second car like the first so you can part it out to keep the first one in top shape.

 

Abortion is a real horror show. Coupled with gene manipulation and cloning the demonic eugenicists must be licking their chops. They won't be stopped now. We can only fight the power as we leave this planet.

 

Yesterday there was a news story about genetically manipulated hypo-allergenic cats. No more sneezing from cat hair. They sell for about $3,500.

 

As they get to humans I expect they will go through the progression of cosmetic changes and diseases. That we are already seeing. Designer babies. Then a shift to more intelligent babies. Then weeding out those with bad social traits, criminals of all sorts, the misfits and social reformers. Of those, misfits will be seen as those that are unwilling to work their lives away, drags on society.

 

I can see a time when the rich will be able to birth those with leadership qualities in politics and mgt. and the not so rich will produce the worker class. Good little worker bees that never go on strike.

 

Scarey stuff.

[Kulapavana 0]

so what else is new? this is the age of Kali. this is how it goes. why be disturbed? chant Hare Krishna and pray that you make it out of this miserable world - because if you have to come back, it is bound to be much worse. if you can take some sincere souls with you - great! if not - that's too bad (for them)... Hare Krishna!

[stonehearted 0]

If you're really headed for Montana, let me know. My older daughter lives in Bozeman, and as far as we can tell, there are no other devotees in the area.

[Guest guest]

As they get to humans I expect they will go through the progression of cosmetic changes and diseases. That we are already seeing. Designer babies. Then a shift to more intelligent babies. Then weeding out those with bad social traits, criminals of all sorts, the misfits and social reformers. Of those, misfits will be seen as those that are unwilling to work their lives away, drags on society.

 

I can see a time when the rich will be able to birth those with leadership qualities in politics and mgt. and the not so rich will produce the worker class. Good little worker bees that never go on strike.

 

[stonehearted 0]

Sounds like Huxley's Brave New World.