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Phenomenon of the creation of Lord Shree Krishna according as said in the Kapil Geeta within Shreemad Bhagwat.

 

Lord Krishna who lives in Akshardham, who is Vasudev Bhagvan and God supreme, glanced at Akshar who then appointed him to create Maha Purush (also known as Brahm, Chidakash, Akshar Purush etc) and Maha Maya.

 

Bhagvan Vasudev himself assumed the form of Maha Purush (Brahm) and sowed the seeds of creation in Maha Maya. From their union was born an infinite number of Pradhan and Purush. From one pair of Pradhan and Purush a universe comes to be. There are innumerable Pradhan and Purush therefore creating innumerable universes.

 

Below is how one universe becomes to be:

 

Vasudev Bhagvan then enters Purush and sows the seeds of creation into Pradhan and as a result, Mahatatva is born. From Mahatatva the three Ahankar’s are born (three ego’s). These are Satvik, Rasaj and Tamsic.

 

Satva produces the sense of mind and its presiding deity of the senses.

A raja produces the ten senses, intelligence and the breath of life itself.

Tamas produces the five basic physical elements (Panch Mahabhoot-earth, water, light, air and space) and there essential qualities.

Altogether, this creates the 24 elements in total.

 

The lord enters each of these elements by his Antaryami Shakti according to the capacity needed to activate each one accordingly.

 

Then inspired by the will of God, these elements create the bodies of Ishwar and the soul. Ishwar also has three kinds of bodies (Virat (Vairaj Purush), Sootratma and Avyakrit) just as the soul has three kinds of bodies (Sthool-physical, Sukshma-subtle and Karan-causal). Virat means the visible universe, Sootratma means the subtle universe and Avyakrit means the non-manifest universe.

 

Ishwar (Vairaj Purush, Vairat Narayan) body of Ishwar. The whole universe is within Vairaj Purush. God then entered the body Ishwar to activate it. Before God had entered it, it lay inactive. Then all Vairaj Purush started to perform all activities. Brahma was then born from the naval of Vairaj Purush, he created Prajapati’s like Mareech and Kashyap, thereon the Dev’s, and demons were then created. Finally, the animate and inanimate was created. Purushottam Bhagvan entered all of them as Antaryami Shakti and as the moving force. He did this in different proportions according to the capacity of the being.

 

Gods fullest manifestation can be seen in Brahm (Akshar) then decreasing proportions in Maha Maya, Pradhan and Purush, Mahatatva, Vairat Purush, Bramha, Indra, humans etc. Therefore, the Lord resides in every being as Antaryami Shakti and reveals himself in graded manifestation. Yet he is only one, he does not multiply or carry out different forms.

 

 

 

God incarnates through Vairaj Purush (Ishwar) by various incarnations such as Krishna, Ram etc. People have to remember that it is not Vairaj Purush who is incarnating; it is Vasudev Bhagvan entering through him as Brahm. Because Vairaj Purush himself worships Sankarshan, Pradyumna and Aniruddha which are the images of God. At the time of dissolution, He worships Sankarshan. When the universe is in the state of sustenance, he worships Pradyumna and Aniruddha the time of creation.

 

These three forms of God are Sagun, which mean that they possess the attributes of Maya. Through worshipping these three images, Ishwar (Vairaj Purush) gains the power of creation, sustenance and dissolution. However, by worshipping these images he cannot free himself from the association of Maya and its works. To do this he needs to worship the fourth image, which is Vasudev, which is Nirgun. In this way he also becomes free from the attributes of Maya and becomes one with Brahm.

 

It is the same way for the soul as well. As long as the soul worships lesser gods who have the attributes of Maya like Bramha, Indra etc it gains only Dharma, Arth or Kaam. Whereas if it worships Gods incarnations such as Krishna or Raam it will be liberated and go to the Lords Abode.

 

Brahm does not desire to enjoy with Maya and Maya does not prove to be a hindrance to him. He enjoys his own bliss within himself and is fully contented.

Just as the soul is different from Ishwar and just as Ishwar is different to Brahm, in the same way Brahm is different to parbrahm who is Purushottam Bhagvan Vasudev. Jeev (soul), Ishwar (Vairaj Purush), Maya, Brahm (Maha Purush, Chidakash etc) and Parbrahm (God Supreme) are five eternal entities.

 

There are many innumerable such Vairaj Purush’s (Universes or Brahmaand). They all have four Vedas and the way to reach Gods abode is the same there as well. Maya has to be discarded by the souls.

 

The universe is protected by eight outer protective shells. First, it is encircled by Lokalok Mountain like a fortress then there is Alok and then seven other shells. Beyond this is darkness and beyond darkness is Brahm, also known as Chidakash, which is eternal bliss and is luminous light or Tej. All this is occurring within the body of Vairaj Purush.

 

All this is an atom on a hair of the Supreme lord residing in his abode. This gives us an idea of how vast the Sakaar body of God residing in his abode would be compared to one body of Vairaj Purush wherein one universe resides.

 

Other such bodies of Vairaj Purush’s (universes) too have a certain ages to when they merge within the body of Maha Maya. God enters them all as incarnations for the good of the souls. They may or may not be the same incarnations that have been taken place by him in this universe. They all have different Brahma’s, Shiva’s or other presiding deities.

 

Parbrahm Brahm and his incarnations such as Raam, Shiv, and Vaman etc all can be worshipped upon to free a soul from the cycle of birth and death

 

The life span of the Virat body of this universe (Vairat Narayan, Vairaj Purush etc) is of 100 years (Dwiparadh). His one-day consists of 14 Manvantar years, which is 4320 million years, and his night is equally long. Therefore, this makes it the same for Bramha. We are in Kaliyug therefore; we are somewhat halfway to the final dissolution.

 

The life span of the three worlds (Trilok) is sustained as long as Vairajpurush’s day lasts. At his night, the three worlds are destroyed within the body of Vairaj Purush himself. This is called Nimitt Pralay.

 

Prakrut Pralay is when the three worlds are destroyed, the soul of Ishwar along with the 24 elements and Pradhan and Purush merge into the womb of Maha Maya.

Atyantik Pralay is when Maha Maya will merge into the divine light of Akshar Purush just as the night merges into day.

Nitya Pralay is the every moment dissolution of human beings, deities in this universe or another etc.

 

The nature of the 24 elements.

 

Brahm (Purush): is different from Maya. He is an assumed form of Parbrahm. He controls Maya. He is indivisible, without beginning, and without end. He is the reality, and is self-luminescent and omniscient. He has a divine body, and is the cause of all activities of all forms. He is called the Kshetragna, which means one who knows his field of activity.

 

Maya (Prakruti): is Trigunatmak (possessing the three attributes), and Jadachidatmak (inanimate as well as animate). It is eternal. It has no power of discrimination. It is the kshetra (field of activity of the 24 elements and the souls). It is the faculty of God.

 

Kaal (Time): is the element that disturbs Maya and the balance of the three attributes of Maya, which is indiscriminate.

 

Chitt (consciousness): is the same as Mahatatva. The universe lies resting in Mahatatva in a restrained form. Chitt is changeless, luminous, transparent, and tranquil. It is nothing but pure consciousness.

 

Ahankar (ego): it is Trigunatmak (possessing three attributes) it is the cause of creation of all living creatures, the senses, Antakaran (conscience), the deities and Pran (breath of life). Calmness, lethargy and indecision are its characteristics.

 

Mann (Mind): is the origin of all desires for worldly objects like women etc. its nature is fickle because of conflicting desires. It controls the organs of senses.

 

Buddhi (Intelligence): possess the knowledge of all objects. Knowledge acquired by the senses is due to the intelligence. Decision as well as indecision, remembrance as well as forgetfulness are its characteristics.

 

Then there are five cognitive organs of senses:

Ears, skin, eyes, tongue (as a organ of taste) and nose.

There are five conative organs:

Hands, feet, tongue (as the organ of speech), organ of excretion and the genital organ.

 

The cognitive organs are: Shrotra (Ears), Tvak (Skin), Chakshu (Eyes), Rasna (Tongue), Ghran (Nose). The characteristics of these organs are to engage themselves in their respective field of activity.

 

The characteristics of the five cognitive senses and the sense objects.

 

Shabda (Sounds): is the quality of Akash (Space). It is the reservoir of the total meaning of speech and the meaning force behind all the dealings of the world. It proclaims the nature and the race of the speaker. Its origin is in the space and is received by the organ of the hearing i.e. the ears.

 

Sparsh (Touch): is the quality of Vayu. It has the ability of feeling tenderness and hardness, heat and cold with the help of the organ of touch i.e. skin.

 

Roop (Sight): is the quality of Tej (Light). it reveals the shape of every object and lies dormant in the object itself. It changes according to the shape of the object. It is perceived by the organ of sight i.e. eyes.

 

Ras (Taste): is the quality of Jal (Water). It has the ability to taste sweetness, acridity, distastefulness, bitterness, sourness etc of objects. The organ of taste i.e. the tongue can experience it.

 

Gandh (Smell): is the quality of Pruthvi (Earth) it has the ability to smell fragrance and stench. The organ of smell i.e. the nose can experience it.

 

The characteristics of the five basic physical elements.

 

Pruthvi (Earth): sustains the life of all living creatures and provides them the location to live. It has the ability to distinguish the other four elements: water, light, air and space. It provides the creatures with physical bodies.

 

Jal (Water): binds together materials like clay etc. it softens, moistens and saturates materials; it also sustains he life of all living beings. It quenches thirst and removes heat. It is available in abundance.

 

Tej (Light): provides illumination in the form of fire, it digests food, absorbs liquids, accepts offerings and burns wood. It removes cold, dries things and causes hunger and thirst.

 

Vayu (Air): shakes trees, gathers grass and carries objects of senses: sound, touch, sight, taste and smell to their respective sense organs: ears, skin, eyes, tongue and the nose. It is the moving force behind all organs.

 

Akash (Space): provides space for all the creatures it is the moving force behind the internal and external functioning of the physical bodies of creatures. It is the abode of Pran (breath of life), the five senses and conscience.

 

 

 

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You wrote a nice long essay here to explain something about Creation.

 

According to Bhaghavatum, Brahma's years were only 100yrs.

 

which in BRAHMA's calendar amounts to roughly 10,000,000 years.

 

THen whatever was created up until that time got evolved. Genes got mutated and new species were formed thru the process of reproduction by those existing species only, as far as Human qualities or attributes are concerned.

 

Earth as a whole unit was undergoing evolution for more than 3.5 Billion years in BRAHMA's Calendar time...or since 3,500BC in christian calendar time line.

 

1 yr of christian calendar is = to 10,000 years in Brahma's calendar.

 

MAHAVISHNU was the FIRST MAHAPURUSHA TO MANIFEST on earth w MAHALAKSHMI. Then according to BRiHa U and other holy hindu texts, PRAJAPATHI CAME into picture next, and then BRAHMA.

 

BRAHMAN (our Hindu God concept) in a saguna mode is revealed as a TRINITY DEITY or Deities.

 

BRAHMAN is not to be confused w BRAHMA, our first member from HOly Hindu TRINITY.

 

BRAHMAN=OUR ONLY GOD.

BRAHMA=Creator role played in Trinity concept.

VISHNU=Sustainer role played in Trinity concept.

SHIVA=The destroyer tole played in Trinity concept.

 

All these three roles are comparable to the 3 branhces in our US GOVT today. They are separate powers of ONLY ONE GOD aka BRAHMAN.

 

LORD KRSNA, was ONe of the AVATARs of VISHNU.

 

The question is HOW did MAHAVISHNU "turned" out to be the NUMBER ONE CREATOR OF SOULSPARKs or ATMANs, which are distributed to all living beings at birth?

 

Please reply.

 

Thanks.

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Hare Krsna !!!

 

 

 

Thanks for the nice explanation.

 

Question 1 : Is it mentioned in the Shreemad Bhagavat that Lord Krishna lives in Akshardham - if yes please provide the verse number.

 

Question 2 : You wrote earlier "Lord Krishna who lives in Akshardham, who is Vasudev Bhagvan and God supreme, glanced at Akshar who " and then later you wrote :"God incarnates through Vairaj Purush (Ishwar) by various incarnations such as Krishna, Ram etc." Your second statement indicates you do not understand the statement krsnas tu bhagavan svayam (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 1 chapter 2 verse 28). You are making contradictory statements intentionally or unintentionally – First you say Krishna starts the creation and later on you say – GOD incarnates as Krishna -- Please try to understand the subtle difference between the two statements.

 

To understand the Srimad Bhagavatam in its pure form please visit http://www.srimadbhagavatam.com/

 

By the way do you chant the Mahamantra?

 

<font color="red"> Hare Krsna Hare Krsna

Krsna Krsna Hare Hare

Hare Ram Hare Ram

Ram Ram Hare Hare </font color>

 

Hare Krsna !!!

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According to Bhaghavatum, Brahma's years were only 100yrs.

 

which in BRAHMA's calendar amounts to roughly 10,000,000 years.

 

According to Bhagavatam, Braham lives for 100 years according to his own measurements. This equals a little over 311 terrestrial years.

 

1 yr of christian calendar is = to 10,000 years in Brahma's calendar.

 

What you have written means that 1 year of Brahma is smaller than one year of ours. But Bhagavatam says just the opposite.

 

 

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I am not mistaking BRAHM (GOD) with Param Pita Brahma. Who you pronounce "Brahman" can be misinterpreted by the way it is pronounced. It sounds like Brahmin. In Sanskrit, the Akshar Purush or Maha Purush is pronounced Brahm. Parbrahm is beyond Brahm and he is the Supreme Being (he has many names such as Vasudev, Narayan, Krishna, MahaVishnu etc). Like stated in my first ever post of this thread … Parbrahm enters all his creations according to the being and its capacity. This is within the Kapil Gita of the Shreemad Bhagvat.

Thus, Param Pita Brahmaji is not being misinterpreted as whom you pronounce “Brahman” (Brahm pronounced correctly).

God (Parbrahm) is both Nirgun and Sagun. He has a definite divine Sakaar form and resides within his abode along with the redeemed souls who are merged into the bliss of Brahm (Supreme light which may also be called Chidakash and is the body of God just like the souls are)!

 

Below is a translation of the bhagwad Geeta where Lord Krishna talks about attaining the Supreme!:

 

Humility, modesty, nonviolence, forgiveness, honesty, service to guru, purity (of thought, word, and deed), steadfastness, self-control; and aversion towards sense objects, absence of ego; constant reflection on pain and suffering inherent in birth, old age, disease, and death; (13.07-08) detached attachment with family members, home, etc.; unfailing calmness upon attainment of the desirable and the undesirable; and unswerving devotion to Me through single-minded contemplation, taste for solitude, distaste for social gatherings and gossips; steadfastness in acquiring the knowledge of Eternal Being (Brahm), and seeing the omnipresent Supreme Being (ParBrahm, Krishna) everywhere --- this is said to be knowledge. That which is contrary to this is ignorance. (13.09-11) The moment one discovers the diverse variety of beings and their ideas abiding in One and coming out from That alone, one attains the Supreme Being (ParBrahm). (13.30)

 

From this we can see that beyond Brahm is Parbrahm. Therefore discard what ignorance there may be and also know that Parbrahm is Krishna supreme as he himself has stated.

 

 

Param Pita Brahma has a live span of 100 years.

I will now explain how according to the Kapil Geeta of which I have studied.

 

Lav, Nimish, Pal and Ghadi are the ancient and astronomical terms for the exact and accurate calculations of time.

 

One Lav of Brahma = our 666 years and 8 months

One Nimish of Brahma = our 40,000 years

(One Nimish = 60 Lav)

One pal of Brahma = our 2.4 million years

(One pal = 60 Nimish)

One Ghadi of Brahma = our 144 million years

One day of Brahma = our 4320 million years

 

The number of years for the four Yug’s is as follows:

 

Satyug = 1,728,000 years

Tretayug = 1,296,000 years

Dwapar = 864,000 years

Kaliyug = 432,000 years

 

As per this, one day of Brahma = Period of 1000 of above four Yug’s

It will also come to (4.320,000 x 100) = 4320 million years.

One day of Brahma = period of the rule of 14 Manu’s and 14 Indra’s.

Note: this is only half way as it is only the Day!

 

The tenure of region of one Manu and one Indra is of 306,571,428 years, 6 months, 25 days, 42 Ghadi’s, 51 Pal’s, 25 Nimish’s and 42 Lav’s. if this is multiplied by 14 (i.e. the rule of 14 manu’s and Indra’s) it also comes to 4320 million years i.e.

 

One day of Brahma is 4320 million years like stated earlier. So this works out to be the truth!

 

Within one day of Brahma all creation ends and is called Nitya Pralay (continuous dissolution).

 

The night of Brahma is also of the same period. During this, Trilok (three Lokas, Swarg, Mrutyu and Pataal) ends.

 

Therefore, lifespan of Param Pita Brahma’s one-day and one night totals to 8640 million years. During the day and night of Brahma, the dissolution goes on and is called Nimitt Pralay (Casual dissolution).

 

 

At the end of 100 years of Brahma the universe along with the 14 loka’s are destroyed. Therefore, the creation out of Prakruti merges back within Prakruti. This is called Prakrut Pralay.

 

At the time of Atyantik Pralay (final dissolution), the innumerable universes that have been created in total are destroyed. The Maha Maya and Maha Purush who were the cause of creation of Pradhan(Prakruti) and Purush (father and mother figure of Vairaj Purush) finally absorb in the light of Akshar Purush also known as Brahm, which is the creation of Parbrahm (Lord supreme-known as Krishna, Vasudev Narayan etc). All the universes (Vairaj Purush’s) absorbed as well. This is called Atyantik Pralay (final dissolution).

 

Similarly at the time of creation, universes were evolved out of Prakruti and Purush chronologically as they are to be absorbed at the time of Atyantik Pralay (final dissolution).

 

As we are in Kaliyug, we are somewhat closer to the night of Param Pita Brahmaji.

There is one Brahma in each of the Brahmands created by God.

 

The question about Krishna living in Akshardham is to be put in this way…

‘Akshar’ in Kapil Geeta is also pronounced as ‘Brahm’ in Bhagvat Geeta. So when Krishna states ‘Brahmpur’ or ‘Golok’ (is divine abode) it can also be pronounced ‘Akshardham’ as in the Kapil Geeta.

 

Please read it if you can. The words of Lord Kapil Bhagvan who narrated them to his mother Devhooti are prescribed within it.

 

When a universe is created, God enters the Shushumna Nadi within the head of Vairaj Purush (within where the universe is sustained later) and then moves down through the Nadi into the heart. As Vairaj Purush (may also be known as Vairat Narayan) becomes active through the Prana Naad (Aum) his mind senses are all activated. Then Brahma Is created first born out of Vairaj Purush’s navel hence the reason why he is called ‘Param Pita’ (first father). Brahma then goes on to creating Prajapati’s 12 Adityas, eleven Rudras and eight Vasu’s etc. is then created according to Kapil Geeta and Narayan Upanishad (this Upanishad is part of the Krishna Yajur Veda).

 

Yes, Krishna was God Supreme. HE was an avatar of Parbrahm. He his also named as Parbrahm Purna Purushottam. He is one. There is only one absolute!

 

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Guest ji,

You have written that one day time of Brahma equals our 4320 million years.

Actually, it is 4320 thousand years.

You can also say 4.32 million years.

 

Likewise one day night of Brahma is our 8640 thousand years or 8.64 million years.

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Mr Avinash Ji

 

I am correct about Brahmaji's day consisting of 4320 million years. This may also be written as 4.32 billion years.

In addition, his night being the same for years.

therefore a subtotal of 8640 million years. This may also be written as 8.64 billion years.

If the Kaliyug alone consist of 432 thousand years than how can we be talking of Brahmaji's day in 'thousands'?

 

Brahma only lives for one day and night. Within this time, all of creation comes to and end. You may find it hard to grasp at first but this is how it is stated in the Kapil Geeta of Shreemad Bhagvat Puran written by Bhagvan Vyasji. Please read it when you can.

 

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Ooooopppppppppssssssssss. I got confused between one revolution of the four yugas and one day of Brahma. Yes, you are right. One revolution of the four yugas is 4.32 million years and one day of Brahma is thousand times of this i.e. 4320 million years. Sorry.

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Its ok Avinashji.

Dont worry about it. You should have seen me when i started to learn about all this. There was alot to take in and absorb. I finally got there. But the lords divine leelas are such that they are difficult to grasp at first as well.

anyways takecare,

Jay Dwarika Deesh

Jay Swaminarayan

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