kailasa 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2004 "that goal is to develop an inner desire for Vraja bhakti." ISKCON has devotees and guru in manjari-vraja-bhava but it is inner position. "It often seems that ISKCON's focus on A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, its founder-acharya, has isolated ISKCON and its leaders from the rest of the spiritual family Maharaja calls the Bhaktivinoda-parivara." Some devotee isolated himself from the spiritual family calls the Bhaktivinoda-parivara by aparadha in different degree. A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, its founder-acharya sampradaya, has "isolated" ISKCON from many doubtfull ways. "This isolation, together with Srila Prabhupada's caution regarding the particulars of cultivating spontaneous devotion, Maharaja suggests, has limited the society's impact and perhaps stunted the growth of its members' devotional creepers. " This perfect way Srila Prabhupada do his disciples mature. It is true way Gosvamis. Srila Prabhupada know They personally. /images/graemlins/smile.gif If some follow for Srila Prabhupada he is go in most center all Vraja or Gaura lila. Nobody do not high then guru. Nobody do not more reason then guru. And nobody do not jamp for head Srila Prabhupada. It is spiritual life. Vipralambha - it is eternal perfection, mature fruit all spiritual life. It is essence all spiritual world. From this mood emanate all lilas and Krisna lila, and this mood is perfection Krisna lila too. Krisna go take this mood and create his boundless. All gopis come with Krisna and take this fruit. All acaryas come, all spiritual world come for THIS fruit. Gopis come from Krisna lila to gaura lila, then Srila Prabhupada teach all spiritual science. "ISKCON's leaders teach, following Srila Prabhupada and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta, that following the process of vaidhi-sadhana-bhakti and vigorously preaching Krishna consciousness will automatically deliver the practitioner to the goal. " Yes, but Srila Prabhupada teach more highest goal mood Lord Caitanya. THIS means following regulative principles. Regulative principles is dharma, but high sense it is not dharma it principles pure devotion. Pure devotee never "not reach" not Radha, not Krisna, not pure principles. /images/graemlins/smile.gif From this "imperfection" born supreme perfection. Then Gaudiya math do not understand this way. Some preaching GM only do trouble for ISKCON. Then most perfect way it is folloving for Srila Prabhupada only. He is HIMSELF speak about this. GM needs - do own disciples - rise they in Vaikuntha - then teach madhurya rasa - you may teash all world madhurya rasa! but not disciples ISKCON, no needs preach themples ISKCON. ISKCOn soo small, all another world soo big! /images/graemlins/smile.gif If some has perfection, no any problem, do perfection all anothers in material world. ... Lilas It is an eternal drama or eternal love and ours " siddha pranali " and our position in this drama is not of great importance. Yes? no? It also is the servant of the servant of the servant. If you good the servant that you get access everywhere. Books Srila Prabhupada no has any gyana it is all write from level direct darsan. Do theachings Srila Prabhupada devotees has siddha-deha, no problem it is most reliable way. Well. Everyone have this or that realization. But it seems to me that is necessary to understand it - " others too have realization ". It is an attribute of reason. ----------------------------- This message has no the purpose anybody to offend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
