Abdullah 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2003 I didnt intend here to make fun of u guys, if i did then i am sorry, just hear me out, why ignore the truth? And no Muslims converted to Hindu unless they were forced, u said they were but give me some names and references. Dr. Tariq Al Suwaidan discovered some verses in the Holy Quran that mention one thing is equal to another, i.e. man is equal to women. Although this makes sense grammatically, the astonishing fact is that the number of times he word man appears in the Quran is 24 and the number of times the word woman appears is also 24, therefore not only is this phrase correct in the grammatical sense but also true mathematically (24= 24). Upon further analysis of various other verses, he discovered that this is consistent throughout the whole Quran, where it says one thing is like another. See below for some astonishing results:- The word number of times mentioned in Arabic Quran: Dunia (one name for life) 115 ¡ Aakhirat (one name for the life after) 115 Malaikat (angels) 88 ¡ Shaytan (satan) 88 Life 145 ¡ Death 145 Benefit 50¡ Corrupt 50 People 50 ¡ Messengers 50 Eblees (king of devils) 11 ¡ Seek refuge from eblees 11 Museebah (calamity) 75 ¡ Thanks 75 Spending (sadaqah) 73 ¡ Satisfaction 73 people who are Mislead 17 ¡ Dead people 17 Muslimeen 41 ¡ Jihad 41 Gold 8 ¡ Easy life 8 Magic 60 ¡ Fitnah (dissuasion, misleading) 60 Zakat (taxes Muslims pay for the poor) 32 ¡ Barakah (increasing or blessings of a wealth) 32 Mind 49 ¡ Noor (light) 49 Tongue 25¡ Sermon 25 Desire 8 ¡ Fear 8 Speaking publicly 18¡ Publicising 18 Hardship 114 ¡ Patience 114 Muhammad 4 ¡ Sharee*ah (Muhammad's teachings) 4 Man 24 ¡ Woman 24 And amazingly enough have a look how many times the following words appear:- Month 12 Day 365 sea 32 Land 13 Sea + land = 32 + 13 = 45 % sea = 32/45 * 100 % = 71.11111111 % land= 13 / 45 * 100 % = 28.88888889 = 100.00 Modern Science has only recently proven that the water covers 71.111 % of the earth, while the land covers 28.889 %. Is this a coincidence? Who taught prophet Mohammad (PBUH) all this? Allah,the All Mighty taught him this. As the Quran tells us: (This is) a Book, the Verses whereof are perfected (in every sphere of knowledge, etc.), and then explained in detail from One (Allâh),Who is All-Wise and Well-Acquainted (with all things).' (Quran 11:1) The above is from the the series of the scientific miracles in Quraan, by Dr. Tariq Al Suwaidan May ALLAH Bless us all. Answer Numerical Miracles of Quran In the name of Allah, We praise Him, seek His help and ask for His forgiveness. Whoever Allah guides none can misguide, and whoever He allows to fall astray, none can guide them aright. We bear witness that there is no one (no idol, no person, no grave, no prophet, no imam, no dai, nobody!) worthy of worship but Allah Alone, and we bear witness that Muhammad(saws) is His slave-servant and the seal of His Messengers. Dear Brother in Islam, the Quran is indeed a miracle for all times and ages. The Glorious Quran is the very Word of the Lord of the Worlds, and is perfect in every aspect. The Glorious Quran is an ocean of knowledge, and the more one dives into this Divine Ocean, the more he will be blessed and honored with knowledge. There are volumes of books written by eminent scholars, and scientists, and astronomists, and medical experts, etc.; about the miracles of the Glorious Quran in their respective fields. Modern science have only now accepted and declared the miracles of the Quran, which the believers believed firmly since its Revelation from the One, Who is All Knowing, All Wise. It is also difficult to check all the above words of the Holy Quran, because in the Arabic language each word has a root word and many words are derived from that root word. For example, take the word ‘ilm’ or knowledge. From this root word ‘ilm’, other words can be derived such as ‘Aleem’ (All Knowing), ‘alim’ (scholar), ‘yahlamoon’ (they know), etc. Thus it would be impossible to determine which derived word is chosen to come to the specific number, and which one is left out. And if one just takes a glance at the list provided, there are a few obvious errors. The writer has said that the word ‘salat’ is mentioned five times! This is obviously incorrect, as the word salat is mentioned in excess of 38 times in the Glorious Quran! The writer has said that the word ‘land’ appears only 13 times in the Quran; whereas the truth is that the word ‘land’ is mentioned in excess of 80 times in the Quran! The writer has said that the word ‘fear’ appears only 8 times in the Quran; whereas the truth is that the word ‘fear’ is mentioned in excess of 150 times in the Quran! Thus, obviously, it seems that the writer has either not done a proper research, or has used a different criteria for choosing his words. The above list is not absolutely accurate; and just because it is not accurate does not diminish the miracles of this Glorious Book. But brother, we must realize that the Quran was not revealed to man to figure out its miracles, nor was it revealed to write each word of the Quran and then see which word matches which word in its number of repetitions. If one has done the numerical additions, and it has increased his faith and conviction in the miracles of the Divine Words, there is no harm. But the reason Allah Subhanah revealed the Quran was that it is supposed to be accepted as a perfect guidance to mankind. Allah says in Chapter 2, Surah Baqarah aayat 185 "Ramadan is the month in which the Quran was sent down: this Book is a perfect guidance for mankind and consists of CLEAR teachings which show the right way and are a Criterion of the Truth and falsehood." Because this Glorious Book are the very Words of our Lord and Creator, they are obviously overflowing with miracles. Many miracles are known to man and modern science; and innumerable others are still unknown. Our duty as believers is to believe, accept, and unconditionally obey each and every command of the Glorious Quran; which is indeed a perfect guidance for all mankind. Whatever written of Truth and benefit is only due to Allah’s Assistance and Guidance, and whatever of error is of me. Allah Alone Knows Best and He is the Only Source of Strength. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2003 Dear fellow soul abdullah, U read please.... Here is the challange. Here is the link.... http://www.iskcon.org/sastra/f_bg.html The challange is read it fully, understand it and then come back to this forum.. Or even ask questions from it here on the forum.. U know what, i predict you will not do read. Why ? beacuse u are not serious about God anyway. I DARE YOU TO PROVE ME WORNG. UR challanger in the service of the One Supreme Being Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dev 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2003 Hare Krishna /salam walikum , That was nice. You are praising Allha or Krishna . It is same . You can find similar science related things in Bible also . There is also Jehovah ( Father , Krishna's) word, so everything is same. The difference is in interpretation. The same Qoran can be used by terrorist minded people and same can be used to make one devotee . In Bagwat Gita , one can take the interpretation that Krishna want us to fight like Arjuna , by taking our modern Bow and Arrow( AK47 ) . So it is up to you how you interpret the teaching of Allaha. So best is read the interpretation made by Devotees, Like for Gita , it is Srila prabhupaad's Gita . Hari Bol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 12, 2003 your faith is very nice, but do not think that allah is so limited that he can speak only to the arabs and only with quran he's a father, he has got an unlimited number of sons, and he speaks to all of them in a way that is effective for their salvation according time, place, circumstance, and the mind of the person... he gives a message if we examine with attention, the goal is the same... to develope love of god and for all the creatures so your attempt to make a war with us is an offence to other brothers who are searching to give god to the world like you are doing we are not the enemy to fight..... the enemy is that we all have to became more serious in the practice of our religion.... if we were serious the world could be a paradise the problem is that materialists, seeing all these quarrels, they think that religion is a fake and religious person too are big materialists too, quarrelling and hating each others exactly like everyone in this mad world Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2003 I would have to say to him.... "Revelation to one man is mere hear-say to another!" What one has revealed to him is his revelation. And so it should be only his revelation, each person shall/will have their own in one way or another. Until God speaks to YOU directly accept only one man's revelation as hear-say. It may end up the same or it may differ...that is the beauty of God! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
