Guest guest Report post Posted March 28, 2003 Does the eternal Lord Krishna in the highest world of Goloka situated in the transcendent spiritual sky have eternal forms of the same parents he had on earth? And if so how can he be the uncreated cause of all causes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enlightened 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2003 You see, we think that krishna looks like the guy with the peacock feather and beautiful clothes ...etc. but, when he is the uncreated cause of all beings, how can he have a specific form or a shape? Iswara or god is not different from what he has created. We realize this in various ways such as "the bavas in bhakthi and stuff". Anyway, the truth is simple, what is perceived isn't always true, Iswara, or krishna is perceived as a guy we see on the krishna website by hindus. In a similar way, Christians perceive the guy as a leader of angels who have "white wings and wear white clothes and have magical powers". In the same way, Islamic people perceive him in another way, but in reality no one knows for sure about his looks, due to the fact that we cannot see something that has been there before we were created. An example of this is, How can you know how Universe looked like before we were there?, and how do we know it looks precisely like we think it looks like?. We see the universe through the help of scientists who perceive it in such a way. The same analogy applies to this matter too, because we have no way of knowing the looks of Iswara, who created so many things, because it is impossible to know through our short lifespan. On the other hand, we can know him in a sec, because he is non different from what he creates. so, what ever you perceive about him/her, it is considered his/her form, so it is sacred. I hope I answered your question. :-) /images/graemlins/grin.gif Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 2, 2003 What I was trying to find out was if Krishna's eternal parents in Goloka are really emenations of the uncreated Lord? How can the source of all beings have parents? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingentity 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2003 You see, we think that krishna looks like the guy with the peacock feather and beautiful clothes ...etc. "The Lord resides eternally in His abode Goloka, yet He can be approached from this world, and to this end the Lord comes to manifest His real form, sac-cid-ananda-vigraha. When He manifests this form, there is no need for our imagining what He looks like. To discourage such imaginative speculation, He descends and exhibits Himself as He is, as Syamasundara. Unfortunately, the less intelligent deride Him because He comes as one of us and plays with us as a human being. But because of this we should not consider that the Lord is one of us. It is by His potency that He presents Himself in His real form before us and displays His pastimes, which are prototypes of those pastimes found in His abode." Srila Prabhupada; Introduction to Bhagavad Gita As It Is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enlightened 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2003 Isn't the lord who resides in goloka pleasing to look at for every body, well every one of us has different tastes, so can't we say that the lord comes to every one as he/she perceives him to be? So, isn't it our imagination of the supreme lord's form. However, no body knows him really, but he knows every one. he is so mysterious... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
