Gauracandra 1 Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Face transplants not just science fiction. Surgical procedure is feasible, but subject of ethical debate LONDON, Nov. 27 — Full face transplants are no longer science fiction fantasy, a leading surgeon said on Wednesday. They are technically feasible but ethically complex. ‘The ethical and moral debate is obviously going to have to take place before the first facial transplantation.’ — PETER BUTLER PETER BUTLER from London’s Royal Free Hospital called for a debate on the ethics of such an operation made possible by new drugs which stop the body’s immune system rejecting a transplanted face. “It is not ‘can we do it?’ but ’should we do it?’” he told the BBC. “The technical part is not complex, but I don’t think that’s going to be the very great difficulty ... The ethical and moral debate is obviously going to have to take place before the first facial transplantation.” The British Association of Plastic Surgeons holds its Winter meeting on Wednesday and will discuss the microsurgical procedure, which could give new skin, bone, nose, chin, lips and ears from deceased donors to patients disfigured by accidents, burns or cancer. DONORS IN SHORT SUPPLY But surgeons could have trouble finding enough willing donors. Butler said his survey of doctors, nurses and members of the public showed most would accept a face transplant but few were willing to donate their own after dying. Butler said one of the possible techniques would see a ”skin envelope” of fat, skin and blood vessels transplanted onto existing bone, leaving patients with many of their own features. But in an echo of the sci-fi thriller “Face Off,” another more complex procedure would transplant underlying bone as well, so the patient would end up resembling the donor. In the Hollywood blockbuster, Nicholas Cage who plays a master criminal swaps faces with his nemesis, John Travolta, using laser technology. Despite a number of ethical concerns, Christine Piff, who founded the charity Let’s Face It after suffering a rare facial cancer 25 years ago, welcomed the possibility of face transplants. She rejected the idea that the procedure would mean people would end up living with a dead person’s face. “There are so many people without faces, I have half a face ... but we are all so much more than just a face ... you don’t take on their personality. You are still you,” she told Reuters. “If we can donate other organs of the body then why not the face. I can’t see anything wrong with it.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theist 1 Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Scarey strange stuff. Who will be first I wonder. In ten years I can envision some companies offering faces of Elvis(young Elvis)for sale in Las Vegas. Premade, slap on in a day. One day you are Elmer Fudd, the next day Elvis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Ever get the feeling there is a bit of dissatisfaction in this world. Lets face it, it's time to go home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 28, 2002 Just imagine having Hitlers mask on Jim Careys nature. How about a JLo face on a fat rich cats body, seeing as the rich will be the only ones who can afford it as usual. And I'm sure there will males wanting a female face and vice-versa. Identity is a serious disaster in this world of misconception. Too bad if only half the opperation works. It seems these experiments have a way of going wrong, like Michael Jacksons embarrassing result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted November 30, 2002 Will the real Srila PrabhupAd please stand up! What about avirbhav & tirobhav? and Atma-tattva? Attn: tirobhav shall henceforth be retermed punarbhav. Is Jesus coming back? Coming back? Not coming back, He's already here! I just saw one Jesus look-alike down the block. Spittin' image. U won't be able to tell the dif. 2 Beatles r gone? That's what u think. Stalin's back in Moscow. Hirohito in Tokyo. Mussolini in Rome. Franco in Madrid, Tito in Belgrad. Mao in Beijing. Churchill in London. Degaulle in Paris. Gandhi & Nehru in Dilli = Delhi Great! Really Great! Just like the good ole days. But oh-oh! Oh no! Nixon's back in Washington. And he's headed toward the White House... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 3, 2002 Nahhh they're all too old to fit the body But they all gotta be somewhere now, don't they? Step right up for your new mask folks. Like the dog having a pee on the tree I wonder if anyone will notice me Huff huff or ruff ruff I didn't really mean to lord it over others. Woe is me Destiny can be so cruel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted December 5, 2002 No wonder he froze himself. Too sunny in Southern Cal? Too hot to handle? No, it was this Face On, Face Off idea all along. Mustache included. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted December 5, 2002 It's getting better all the time? I used to get mad at my school (no I can't complain) The teachers that taught me weren't cool (no I can't complain) You're holding me down (aah) Turning me round (ooh) Filling me up with your rules (full, full) I've got to admit it's getting weirder (weirder) A little weirder all the time (it can't get no worse?) I have to admit it's getting weirder (weirder) It's getting weirder since Columbine Me used to be angry young man Me hiding me head in the sand You gave me the word I finally heard Me doing the best that I can (not!) I've got to admit it's getting weirder (weirder) A little better all the time (it can't get no worse?) I have to admit it's getting weirder (weirder) It's getting weirder since you've been mine Getting so much weirder all the time It's getting weirder all the time (weirder, weirder, weirder) It's getting weirder all the time (weirder, weirder, weirder) I used to be cruel to my woman I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she craved Man I was mean but I'm changing my scene And I'm acting as weird as I can I admit it's getting weirder (weirder) A little weirder all the time (it can't get no worse?) Yes I admit it's getting weirder (weirder) It's getting weirder since you've been mine Getting so much weirder all the time It's getting weirder all the time (weirder, weirder, weirder) It's getting weirder all the time (weirder, weirder, weirder) Getting so much w-e-i-r-d-e-r all the time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted January 12, 2003 Friday morning one man in one large EPA truck was examining certain cars on my block & jotting down notes. Any idea what he was doing? R my days numbered? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites