Tarun 6 Report post Posted March 14, 2002 Amerikan Imperialism depends on its citizens' stupidity. So long we remain dumbfounded, things will go on smoothly. Indeed, Kapitalism sans Monarchy + Pandit supervision = monkey beat. Kapi = monkey, tali = one who drums, st = position. Once we begin to question, monkey business ends. So let us remain monkeys thereby stimulating global economics. No need to read any further. No need to question. Don't read below this line. Big Brother is Watching You. -------------------------- So Where is the Plane? -- Posted: March 11, 2002 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com I receive a lot of strange information from a wide variety of sources. Some of it is intriguing. Some of it is flat-out weird. I try (and frequently fail) to temporarily set aside my own personal prejudices to objectively as possible consider the merits of both the intriguing and weird. Recently, an interesting French website has been asking questions about the crash of American Airlines Flight 77, which reportedly crashed into the Pentagon on Sept. 11. The conventional wisdom has been inculcated into us that there were four terrorist hijacked airplanes that tragic day. But there are refutations for each of the official scenarios floating around. The conspiracy theory industry hasn't been this jazzed since the JFK assassination. However, in the shadow of the creative writing, multi-phased propaganda and bovine excrement, there are several questions that at least should be asked and answered. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State. – Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels The French website has pictures of the Pentagon from Sept. 11. I looked at the pictures shown and, frankly, (despite my visceral reluctance to buy into another conspiracy) can't answer the questions raised. Maybe our readers can? Click on the French link and let us know what you think. I have also viewed the MSNBC footage over two dozen times and I still can't see the plane. Can you? ---------------------------- 1. The first satellite image shows the section of the building that was hit by the Boeing. In the image, the second ring of the building is also visible. It is clear that the aircraft only hit the first ring. The four interior rings remain intact. They were only fire-damaged after the initial explosion. How can a Boeing 757-200 – weighing nearly 100 tons and traveling at a minimum speed of 250 miles an hour – only have damaged the outside of the Pentagon? ------------------------------ 2. The next two photographs show the building just after the attack. The aircraft apparently only hit the ground floor. The four upper floors collapsed toward 10:10 am. The building is 78 feet high. How can a plane 44.7 feet high, over 155 feet long, with a wingspan of almost 125 feet and a cockpit almost 12 feet high, crash into just the ground floor of this building? ----------------------------- 3. Look at the photograph of the lawn in front of the damaged building. Where is the debris? Any debris! Did it all disintegrate on contact? ----------------------------- 4. There are photographs, which show representations of a Boeing 757-200 superimposed on the section of the building that was hit. What happened to the wings of the aircraft? Why isn't there any wing damage? ------------------------- 5. One journalist asked: "Is there anything left of the aircraft at all?" At a press conference the day after the tragedy, Arlington County Fire Chief Ed Plaugher said, "First of all, the question about the aircraft, there are some small pieces of aircraft visible from the interior during this fire-fighting operation. I'm talking about, but not large sections." The follow-up question asked, "In other words, there's no fuselage sections and that sort of thing?" Plaugher replied, "You know, I'd rather not comment on that. We have a lot of eyewitnesses that can give you better information about what actually happened with the aircraft as it approached. So we don't know. I don't know." Wait a minute! Time after time (Oklahoma City bombing, TWA Flight 800, Flight 93 et al.) we are told not to depend on eyewitnesses? When asked by a journalist: "Where is the jet fuel?" The chief responded, "We have what we believe is a puddle right there that the … what we believe is to be the nose of the aircraft." -- Notwithstanding the collective myopia in not being able to see what we are being told, there are more questions. One pilot wrote, "I flew the Boeing 747 jumbo jet, but not this 757 … from what I see (or don't see) looking at these pictures, it's hard to pick out aircraft parts: The wingtip alone would have sheared off and bounced back into the street, the two engines would have penetrated deeper into the wall and framing structure further than any other part making a definite hole. The belly of the aircraft contains, fuel tanks, baggage, mailbags, and cargo; none of this type debris can be seen. Assuming 8,600 gallons of kerosene fuel at a specific gravity of approx 6.9 lbs/gal (temperature considered) weight of the fuel would be close to 60,000 lbs and would splatter everywhere. Where are the seats, those with passengers buckled in would be ripped out of the floor, for that matter, where are the passengers? I have never seen an aircraft accident where the aircraft evaporated upon impact, water, land or buildings. If these pictures were taken within 3 days after 9-11, there would have been definite remains of parts. I don't see any. Whatever inexplicable anomalies exist, the passengers on Flight 77 died that tragic day. Barbara Olson called her husband from Flight 77 and told him about the hijacking in progress. There was most certainly an American Airlines Flight 77 with real people on board, and families in grief. What did happen to the plane? Where is it? --------------- Related offer: Purchase Jack Cashill's stunning documentary video, "Silenced: Flight 800 and the Subversion of Justice" from WorldNetDaily's online store. Geoff Metcalf is a talk-show host for TalkNetDaily. 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Tarun 6 Report post Posted March 20, 2002 So where's the plane? That particular plane that hit the Pentagon: where is it? I personally saw the Pentagon's Southside damaged. But where's the specific plane that supposedly hit it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted March 23, 2002 They're putting something in our water so Amerikans quickly forget. Thank God for PrahlAd. PrahlAd-priya ki jaya! NRsimha BhagavAn ki jaya! PrasAd would've saved Silkwood too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pratyatosa Dasa 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2002 Originally posted by Tarun: Amerikan Imperialism depends on its citizens' stupidity. So long we remain dumbfounded, things will go on smoothly. Indeed, Kapitalism sans Monarchy + Pandit supervision = monkey beat. Kapi = monkey, tali = one who drums, st = position. Once we begin to question, monkey business ends. So let us remain monkeys thereby stimulating global economics. No need to read any further. No need to question. Don't read below this line. Big Brother is Watching You. Perhaps this will help to explain things: http://paulboutin.weblogger.com/2002/03/14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kundhara 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Another Urban Legend debunked: http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pentagon.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kundhara 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 3 more books Tarun also loves: How I liberated Paris, by DeGaulle Sketches of French WW II heroes One Million French were in the resistance.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted April 2, 2002 Kundhara Kandaharji: great to see u back on line! I've never read your choice literature, yet I can tell u this: Your Tricky Dick's memoirs + a valid Metrocard will get u through our Subway turnstiles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kundhara 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2002 Why would I want to visit your worthless subway, pyscho? Why don't you admit you've been duped by another misinformation campaign by your leftist America hating fellow travelers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pratyatosa Dasa 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2002 More info: "No Plane in 9/11 Pentagon Crash?" ( http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1404 ) [This message has been edited by Pratyatosa Dasa (edited 04-03-2002).] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted April 4, 2002 Kandahar Kundharaji: I'm right wing on many issues. Y don't we see who's more left or right, u or me? Let's choose a few issues, say 10 or 15 for openers. Abortion? Right to life Animal rights? No slaughterhouse, selective hunting allowed Environment? this is where conservatives fail miserably, id est, c-o-n-s-e-r-v-a-t-i-o-n-i-s-m is too long a word for them to spell out (even though it wholistically draws out equal meaning). Now u try a few, KKK (oops one K too many, so so sorry). How's about dropping bombs on noncombatants, your trademark. How do u plead, guilty or left? How do they bleed? Same way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kundhara 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2002 Tarun Taliban: Do you still believe a plane did not crash into the Pentagon? Actually, I couldn't care less about your numerous delusions. It is useless conversing with a pyschopath that denies the hollocaust ever happened also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pratyatosa Dasa 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2002 Previous insanity from the French: "Salinger 'totally sure' TWA 800 missile theory is true" (http://www.cnn.com/US/9703/13/twa/). After seeing the network TV special on the subject, which proved how completely ridiculous the missile theory is, I became really angry that such idiocy was being preached to the gullible public. [This message has been edited by Pratyatosa Dasa (edited 04-09-2002).] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
