Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Dear friends, I don't know if many of you are aware of this fact. When Tamil music director Ilayaraja was trying to compose Symphony orchestra for ancient saivite scripture Thiruvasagam, he ran out of money. He went around for help and recieved none for a long time, finally a christian organization donated Rs.1 Crore for him to complete the project. Tamil saivites are extremely tolerant, they even embrace good philosophies of Christianity and Islam, that is why even Christians don't mind supporting our cause once in while. Do you think this would have been possible had we been dogmatic and arrogant claiming ours is the only true god and all other are demi-gods? In the end only love and respect for others prevails.I hope everyone of us will find a lesson in this novel incident and will mend ourselves in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Can you please define God thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 “God is the Bliss of the existence! Through Grace (Chit Shakti) he creates all the worlds, all the things and all the beings. His Power dissolves the imperfections conducting all the beings towards the Perfection and preparing them for his Manifestation. He is All in all: Merciful, Omnipotent, Without pair. He is the Unique Lord of Eternal Splendor, that can be known only by means of the Truth. Know him, obtain his Grace and then will be able for you to achieve an Immortal Life in the Great Truth of his captivating Bliss. Ignorant of this reality, people live deceived by their mental constructions, religions, dogmas, etc. ... aging and dying in vain. It's time the Lord of the Perfect Divine Action come and eradicate the old age, decrepitude and death”. - Ramalinga adigalar a.k.a Vallalar For more information, please refer following link: http://www.ramalinga.com/english.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Christianity itself is intolerant and has an even more dogmatic approach than even the Vaishnavites you view with scorn. If you were to only read what Christians have to say about any of Hindu culture, you would surely understand this is merely a front of generosity rather than the real thing. While I agree that it is arrogant and stupid to argue about which God is greatest, it is also pointless to point this out. The truth is One, and that is the only truth you should look for. Don't seek to divide, as truth comes in Unity. True knowledge comes from experience, so go and find God, rather than dwell in books all day. You will not find Truth there, only your version of it. I have listened and read many books, I see many differences, yet I also see many similarities. And I disregard the differences, as differences come when one seeks to make a distinction between one another as a function of the Ego. In the similarities, I find God, his Truth, and in those similarities I use to fuel my ambition to seek Him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 He went around for help and recieved none for a long time, finally a christian organization donated Rs.1 Crore for him to complete the project. IIayaraja is India's best music director and composer and promoting him is a good business deal for anyone who knows the potential of his songs to hit Asia. My guess is, that he didn't receive money because that time, it is the Gulf and Iraq wars where India was hit by economic slowdown, so not many Indians willing to invest in risky ventures. So, the whole thing is not related to Religions and how tolerate the Christians are, but a carefully planned business deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Also, if you know Ilayraja's past, He was a Christian! May be that had an impact....who knows....just speculating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 The Christian organization that funded 1 Cr. was "Tamil Mayyam".I suppose it must be immune from iraq war and rising oil prices!! Also if Ilayaraja was composing a popular music album or movie songs, it would have made business sense to fund his project, but he was into a risky venture of fusion between carnatic and symphony music with ancient tamil lyrics in the foreground. The riskiest part is, even laymen Tamilians wouldn't understand most of the words coz it was 1500 years old dialect. Please don't insult novel deads of people just because they don't belong to your religion or they don't to your narrow minded opinions. Same goes for the friend who suggests Ilayaraja could have been an Christian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Mr.Shaivite Are you an agent of Ilayraja or do you own any rights for his symphony Dont act as if you own everything in Tamil, Tamilnadu and the Tamil literature. and dont say other people are narrow or opinionated....dude....this is a forum and people come here to give opinions....so if you cant be tolerant to that...then....well...you have to grow up.. Interesting....'cos you give allegations of narrow mindedness, intolerance and everything when all the time you are exactly that cos you are acting as if you are the TORCH BEARER of the entire Tamil sidhhantam. Also, if you are alleging something or someone as narrow-minded, i think you should say why or prove your statement like an adult and just not give blind statements. The beauty of debate is not in the topic iteself but how you present your topic with sound background. All you do is, everyone here is narrow except you bcos they dont accept your point of view.....who is narrow?...looks like you are...? ok....now...say for argument sake, Mr.Sephrioth is presumptious, i think you should be decent enough to state the point of contention and argue OBJECTIVELY stating facts, it can be that Sephiroth does not know all facts and granted he made a mistake, so why cant you get down from your high tamil horse, and explain it properly instead of calling people narrow and opinionated. Good discussion entails both parties to argue based on facts. Now, you started this post and it is you who has to present the entire fact about Tamil, Ilayaraja, his symphony Christianity and not insinuate people that Christianity is better by giving charity. If you provide information in installments like you did in the previous post, people will make assumptions and make their arguments. So, obviously you have no idea about the ethics of argument or debate. Bye the way, please dont act as if you are the TORCH BEARER of Saivism, ok...?? and use broad terms like Saiva Siddhanta and so forth, cos it can mean anything as Saivism is not small topic to discuss and that you can assume all Saivites are like this and all Vaishnavites are intolerant or whatever, it is very immature to say all Vaishnavites are intolerant and all Saivites are like this....this is 5th grade student mentality.... Just for your information, Iam also from tamilnadu and tamilian and strong Saivite and i dont think all Vaishnavites are intolerant, in fact, there are people in both parties who are intolerant, a true devotee of God will not be INTOLERANT! ANAND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Dear friend, I apologize for my bad choice of words. I try not to take insults and counter arguments to heart, but I'm also a mere human with my own limitations and emotions. I'll be more carefull with my choice of words in future. I apologize to one and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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