what's the beginning?

[saumya 0]

Hi beautiful people out there.

I have a problem here with my mind only.I keep asking to me about what is the beginning?how all this started? from where the earth, the universe start?I cannot find the answer.Though i have not read "Gita" fully,i think i will continue reading that, but for the time being can you people answer my ignorance.

Thanks a lot

[Guest guest]

Krishna, the Supreme Person, is eternal and so are his energies. The material world is his inferior energy and the souls his marginal potency. Both the world and the souls are eternal since their possessor is eternal. So there is no such thing as creation.

[saumya 0]

Thanks lot.That really helped.

So does it mean that there is no end too?

But i always thought that there was be a beginning.I heard from my late grandma that the in the end The Jaggannath Mahaprabhu with his brother will come down and destroy the nonsense happening here and then the "Satya joga" will return.I could not visualise that and never understood how ?thats the question i was searching for such a long time.Now i am working in a organisation, but the question still remains with me.I found this forum has a very rich knowledge sharing, so i am trying to clear myself.

from where the history starts and where is the beginning and how we will end?Am i question a nonsense?i do not know but i will really appreciate if you people will help me out understanding my origin and end.Well there is a lot to ask, but this is my beginning.

thank you

[Guest guest]

No end to Krishna, of course. And therefore, there is no end to prakriti which is but Krishna's energy. But it doesn't mean that the combinations are eternal. For instance, you may break the table but the wood (of which the table is made) doesn't end. Only the specific combination of that wood (and perhaps other accessory causes)in the form of table ends.

 

Hence, even though prakriti has no end, the particular combinations of the physical and subtle elements have a beginning and an end. When the physical elements such as pancha bhutas and subtle elemetns such as manas, buddhi etc. combine according to the swabhava of a particular Jiva, it becomes Saumya. Now there is no beginning or end to pancha bhutas and the subtle elemetns such as buddhi, but there is a beginning and an end to that particular combination which has become Saumya. So, please understand that 'creation' or 'beginning' refers to the "COMBINATION" of ETERNALLY existing elements into SPECIFIC forms. And when that combo ends, it is called death or destruction or what you will. But the elements themselves are not subject to creation and destruction because they are Krishna's energy and hence eternal.

 

IS your grandma referring to Kalki-because it's commonly held that Krishna will descend as kalki to destroy in order to create. Needless to say, it isn't creation or destruction in the absolute sense but only on the temporal plane.

[saumya 0]

well, thanks a lot.Now it is making some sense to me.I am slowly understaning it.

I heard something similar to "Kalki", could not remember though.But i think its kalki avatar in kaliyug, if i am right.

So all these earth, solar system and evrything(the combination) will die and the "Saty yug" will strat?I am afraid, what will happen?

Well before that how it started, i mean the kali yug.I heard it starts with the Mahabharat.but am i right?