Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 I happened by this discussion group. I am a high school student. I have read many of the posts with interest. Can someone explain what is the definition of Mayavadi? I am trying to learn Hinduism, although my favorite subject is Astronomy. I belong to the Iyengar community and we worship Tirupati Venkateshvara in our house. Thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 They cannot explain where Maya came from. Through their own teachings. They need to goto a Pure devotee of Krishna. They are basically Buddists, who use Vedas as scapegoat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Yes, but who is a Mayavadi and what is Maya. Can you please explain in greater detail. I am learning about Hinduism so it will help. Thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Is an entity used to bewilder souls. Through the agency of The False ego. Thats how Maya control us. Maya cannot control out soul proper. The false ego in contact with Maya is being controlled. If you want ask questions, thats ok. I am here. But read Gita as well- www.asitis.com Read a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Relative truths are many, and they are referred to as maya. Transcendent Reality is One, it is THE truth, the substratum from which the 'many' involve and evolve. This whole process is called Krishna Lila or divine sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 ******* Is an entity used to bewilder souls. Through the agency of The False ego. Thats how Maya control us. Maya cannot control out soul proper. The false ego in contact with Maya is being controlled. *********** Nicely put. I have a question. Please do not answer with your red face. Is the entity a second beside the Lord? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 The entity is Maya Herself. She cannot bewilder souls. What part of this don't you understand? She can cover souls through the False ego. Thats how we can think we are master of all we survey. Maya will NOT relent without the agency of the Supreme Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Mata Durge Sharnam Namah I asked whether Maya (which you call an entity) is a second entity beside the Lord? Is she separate? Or Is she one with the Lord? What happens to Maya when Lord help you to get free of Maya? Mata Durge Sharnam Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganeshprasad Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Jai Ganesh Namaskar Atanu I see you are taking shelter of Mata Bhavani, who else can be more loving then the mother. Bhavani Ashtakam A Prayer to Mother Divine,Bhavani - these sacred sanskrit 8 Stanza prayers were written by Sri Aadi Shankaracharya, composed in a high state of devotion and bliss to uplift the devotees. Na Taato Na Maato Na Bandhur Na Daata, Na putro Na putri Na Bhrityo Na Bharta ! Na Jaaya Na Vidya Na Vriteermameva, Gatistvam Gatistvam Twameka Bhavani !! (O Mother Divine! Father, Mother,Husband,Wife,Children and Friends- none of these are eternallymine. Knowledge,intellect,mind and will power are also not eternal. O Mother of the universe- You are myonlysaviour, My eternal refuge) Bhavadbhavapaarey Mahadukha Bheeruhu, Prapaata Prakaami Pralobhi Pramatah! KuSansaara Paasha Prabhadha Sadaham Gatistvam Gatistvam Twameka Bhavani !! ( I have fallen in the ocean of birth and death, and I fear their sorrows. I am trapped by my ego with its countless desires, greed, pride and lust. O Mother of the universe- You are my only saviour, my eternal refuge.) Na Jaanami Daanam, Na Cha Dhyaana Yogam, Na Jaanami Tantram, Na Cha StotraMantram! Na Jaanami Poojaam, Na Cha Nyaasa Yogam, Gatistvam Gatistvam Twameka Bhavani !! (O Mother of the universe - I do not know how to come close to you. I do not know any form of worship. Help me, O Mother Divine- You are my only saviour, my eternal refuge.) Na Jaanami Punyam, Na Jaanami Theertham, Na Jaanami Mutkeem, Layam Vaa Kadachit ! Na Jaanami Bhatkeem, Vratam Vaapi Maatah, Gatistvam Gatistvam Twameka Bhavani !! (I do not know how to be righteous or find your abode. I do not know how to achieve freedom by dissolving my ego. i am deviod and surrender. I am not strong enough to make any vow. O Mother of the universe- You are my saviour, my eternal refuge) Kukarmi, Kusangi, Ku buddhi, Kudasah, Kulaacharaheenah Kadachaaraleenah! Kudrushtih, Kuvaakya Prabandah Sadaham Gatistvam Gatistvam Twameka Bhavani !! (My mind is always engaged in worthless thoughts and actions. My Intellect has become dull, enslaved by old habits. I am unable to behave honourably and my intentions are unique. My speech becomes harsh and hurting. Save me,O Mother of the universe - You aremy only saviour,my eternal refuge) Prajesham, Ramesham, Mahesham, Suresham, Dinesham Nishiteshwaram Va Kadachit Na Jaanami Chaanyat Sadaham Sharanye' Gatistvam Gatistvam Twameka Bhavani !! (I do not Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Indra, Surya and Chandra, or any other divinities. O Mother of the universe, you are known for your compassion- You are my only saviour, My eternal refuge) Divaadey, Vishadey, Pramadhey, Pravaasey Jaale Chaanalay, Parvatey, Shatrumadhyae' Aranye' Sharanye' Sada Maa Prapahi Gatistvam Gatistvam Twameka Bhavani !! ( O compassionate Mother, protect me wherever I am and with whomever I am with in pleasure and in distress.O Mother of the universe - You are my only saviour, My eternal refuge) Anartho Daridro Jara Rogayukto, Mahashkeena Deenah Sada JadyaVaktrah Vipatto Pravishtah Pranashtah Sadaham, Gatistvam Gatistvam Twameka Bhavani !! ( O Mother, I feel like an orphan on this Earth, powerless and without inner wealth, deluded by ignorance and unable to see the light of truth. O Mother of the universe - You are my only saviour, My eternal refuge) Jai Maa Bhavani Jai Shree Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Mata Durge Sharnam Namah Ma not Maya. Annapurna. Aditi is all: heaven, earth, gods, all that is born and will be born. Not knowing this one Aditi and seeing many as true is Maya. I hope that I am always in her shelter. Is Umapati different from UMA? Without knowing Uma, Siva camnnot be known. Or possibly Uma is Brahman. Keno Upanishad shows her to be Brahman. Rig Veda also says, Lord is He but is actually a She. Maha Narayana Upanishad I-70: The Supreme represented as the ocean has overflown to the whole creation. He has created at first creatures according to the deserts of their various past deeds. He is the ruler of the universe and the munificent giver of gifts to the devotees. He dwells together with Uma in the hearts of devotees which are holier than other parts of their body and therefore superior and elevated like a peak and affording protection. The Jiva who is his abode grows to be infinite. He is the Lord who delights the jiva by guiding according to their deeds and conferring on them fruits of their actions. Kaivalya Up. 7. Meditating on the highest Lord, allied to Uma, powerful, three-eyed, blue-necked, and tranquil, the holy man reaches Him who is the source of all, the witness of all and is beyond darkness (i.e. Avidya). Thanks a lot for the citations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Namaskar Ganesh Prasad Ji I have a CD "Chants of Shiva" prepared by 'Art of Living' group of Acharya Ravishankar Ji. Bhavani Ashtakam is sung exquisitely beautifully by choir. I wanted english translation of the text. Ma has sent it through you. I thought of enquiring something of you: Why Vinayaka is never subject of controversy? Atanu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganeshprasad Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Vakratund mahaakaay suryakoti samprabha Nirvign kuru me dev (Subha) sarvakaareyeshu sarvada Namaskar Atanu I also have a CD "Chants of Shiva" it is called Himalayan chants, it is also wonderful. Re (translation of the text. Ma has sent it through you. ) I am glad to be of help. Re (I thought of enquiring something of you: Why Vinayaka is never subject of controversy?) Simply because he is the leader. Jai Shree Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Hi Sridhar, Mayavadhis denote people who are against devotion and also tyring to justify the wrong doings scientifically or even misinterpreting vedas. Suppose if someone says 'Sex is not an obstacle to spiritual life',he is a mayavadhi.Because he is arguing in favour of illusion. The fact remains the fact Bhagavan is Supreme Lord Vishnu and devotional science is the way to reach his Lotus feet. All material theories against this is Mayavadha only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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