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SuBrahaman

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Dear all,

 

i was reading about Shree Adi Shankaracharya (on india divine.ocm)

http://www.indiadivine.com/shankaracharya1.htm

Some of the information surprised me

 

"Addressing Lord Shiva, the Supreme Personality of Godhead said, 'Please make the general populace averse to Me by imagining your own interpretation of the Vedas. Also, cover Me in such a way that people will take more interest in advancing material civilization just to propagate a population bereft of spiritual knowledge.' "

 

"Although Shankaracharya was attempting to cover the Supreme Lord by his Mayavadi philosophy, he was simply following the order of the Supreme Lord. Therefore, it should be understood that his teachings were a timely necessity but not a permanent fact. "

 

The above information on the site leades me to a question

 

1) Is the Adhvita ( non- dual) siddhanta preached by Shree Adi Shankarachraya was Planned only for the time then.? Does that mean God is having names and forms? does this mean the Adhvita is not valid now ? if so what is true an d valid now?

 

The site also says

 

In the Narada-Pancaratra this fact has been explained by Narayana Himself to Lord Shiva. But Shankaracharya, the incarnation of Shiva, under the order of his master, had to mislead the monists, who favor ultimate extinction

 

2) Does this mean Suprme of Godahead is the Lord Narayan( Vishnu)? does parabrahma means Lord Vishnu ?.. i thought

parabrahma means supreme of the Godahead who can be called as Shiva,Vishnu or Brahma?

 

Kindly explian

Thanks

SuBrahman

 

 

 

 

 

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If you want to read advaitha read deivathin kural by chandrasekara saraswathi sankaracharya.Dont read it from vishisthathvaidha site.

 

Vedas ultimate truth is advaitha.Only vaishnavas confuse themselves as kaival advaitha and suddhtha advaitha. vedas talk about maya,Geetha talks about maya.

 

To say that shiva lied is akin tio athiesm. Vaishnavites say so.God bless them.

 

all nouns and verbs are god.he is known by different names.

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Yes wat you are quoted is right. it is the fact. advaitham is for the time being.

 

Same time, i place my head on lotus feet of Sri Sri Adi shankara. No wonder he was a great philosopher who revived hinduism.

 

Yes as priya had said visit advaitha sites. there you can see advaithas themselves confess that advaitham is supported only by upanishads. only fundamentalist mayavadis argue that advaitham is supported by vedas.

 

heres a good advaitha site :- www.advaita-vedanta.org

 

till now no mayavadi has not demonstrated clearly that their philosophy is supported by vedas. advaitham is supported only by upanishads.

 

after visiting advaita sites you please visit www.tatvavada.org , www.dvaita.org . there you can clearly see dvaitham makes more sensible & practical than advaitham. Sri Sri Madhvacharya is a unmatched philosopher. I place my head into his lotus feet & surrender to him (& also rayaruji.)

 

Vedas clearly show God has form & also tells Narayana is supreme. Vedas also clearly show Rudra is subservient to Vayu (thus making Vayu equal to brahma). So Dwaitham is 100% supported by vedas.

 

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"mayavatha is truth"

 

Priya dear, this is contradictory. You probably know the meanings of the words but haven't realized what you're saying. Maya = illusory, vatha = philosophy. Illusory philosophy isn't truth. Kevala Advaitha sometimes agrees with Vedas so there's some truth to it, but it doesn't full agree with Vedas.

 

"vedas talk about maya,Geetha talks about maya"

 

And all Vaishnava sampradayas talk about maya in the same way as Vedas and Gita. Kevala Advaitha views maya differently than Vedas, even Shaivites and especially Shaktas don't accept Kevala Advaitha's views on maya.

 

If its non-dualism you like, take a look at some Shaiva and Shakta schools, some of them are non-dualistic.

 

"To say that shiva lied is akin tio athiesm. Vaishnavites say so.God bless them"

 

Actually mayavada is akin to atheism, it ultimately rejects Bhagavan. Vaishnavas don't say he lied. He misleads the atheists, at that time the voidist bauddhas. This is also mentioned in the Garuda Purana.

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