Guest guest Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 yes and breathin also kills animals!!!! dnt breath!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 yes and breathin also kills animals!!!! dnt breath!!!! You must avoid that, which you can avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 jains worry about it. farming is a respected business and hinduism encourages it. farming kills many bugs and worms in earth. jai sri krishna! -madhav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Hare Krishna, jains worry about it. farming is a respected business and hinduism encourages it. farming kills many bugs and worms in earth. jai sri krishna! -madhav That is why Brahmins are prevented to do farming. This is as per our Shastras which tells us that farming also hurts Earth and the beings in it. Brahmins are also forbidden to do what Vaishyas do. The point is Brahmins, Kshatriyas and Vaishyas who are twice born through Upanayanam are forbidden to eat meat. This is the LAW of our Shastras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Hare Krishna, I am not mentioning any caste system here or above in my post. The Varnas are as per Svabhava and work. Vaishyas are lower than Kshatriyas who are lower than Brahmanas. As a person gets better and ascends the ladder he is expected to follow certain rules and law. The first step is giving up meat totally, then comes works that harm other creatures, then comes protecting other creatures and then comes teaching others to follow Dharma. This is a spiritual evolution. Hinduism gives a gradual process of spiritual evolution for a person at any level. This however does not mean that adharma is dharma, ie meat eating is never dharma and it is ADHARMA in every way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 << That is why Brahmins are prevented to do farming. >> no. they are forbidden becaue their main duty is that of studying and preaching dharma. if all enter into business, then there would not be a bramnana, no guide for dharma. as it is now in the most parts of the world. jai sri krishna! -madhav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 no. they are forbidden becaue their main duty is that of studying and preaching dharma. Why can't they do farming and also preach ? What I wrote is shastra. It is not my own thooughts. Brahmins are forbidden to do farming because many beings get hurt and are killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 "Brahmins are forbidden to do farming because many beings get hurt and are killed. " •••naah.. the other devotee is right, they have different skills and mentality, a brahmin is a priest, a scholar, a preacher.. not a farmer, he does not commerce, he does not make money.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 Hare Krishna, "Brahmins are forbidden to do farming because many beings get hurt and are killed. " •••naah.. the other devotee is right, they have different skills and mentality, a brahmin is a priest, a scholar, a preacher.. not a farmer, he does not commerce, he does not make money.. http://www.swaveda.com/Religion/Other/Manu%20Smriti/Chapter%2010.htm Manu Smriti: Chapter 10 80. Among the several occupations the most commendable are, teaching the Veda for a Brahmana, protecting (the people) for a Kshatriya, and trade for a Vaisya. 81. But a Brahmana, unable to subsist by his peculiar occupations just mentioned, may live according to the law applicable to Kshatriyas; for the latter is next to him in rank. 82. If it be asked, 'How shall it be, if he cannot maintain himself by either (of these occupations?' the answer is), he may adopt a Vaisya's mode of life, employing himself in agriculture and rearing cattle. 83. But a Brahmana, or a Kshatriya, living by a Vaisya's mode of subsistence, shall carefully avoid (the pursuit of) agriculture, (which causes) injury to many beings and depends on others. 84. (Some) declare that agriculture is something excellent, (but) that means of subsistence is blamed by the virtuous; (for) the wooden (implement) with iron point injuries the earth and (the beings) living in the earth. 85. But he who, through a want of means of subsistence, gives up the strictness with respect to his duties, may sell, in order to increase his wealth, the commodities sold by Vaisyas, making (however) the (following) exceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 thanks for manu smriti quotes. if farming is not done, then vaishnavas will have go go hunting and fishing for food except when the can find free fruit trees. the positive side to see is that hindus are conscious of the lives in the earth too. some who are so sensitive, are free to not do farming, but it does not stop farming/warm killing because, the farmers who grew the food brahmanas eat did cause death of works in earth. it is better to worrry about the invaded ideology who killed millions of brahmans over 1000 years than to worry about the worms killed in farming. jai sri krishna! -madhav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 this anti-muslim stuff is boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 Hare Krishna, if farming is not done, then vaishnavas will have go go hunting and fishing for food except when the can find free fruit trees. This is the next stage, when people take sannyasa and eat fruits from trees etc. without killing plants or any other creature. the positive side to see is that hindus are conscious of the lives in the earth too. some who are so sensitive, are free to not do farming, but it does not stop farming/warm killing because, the farmers who grew the food brahmanas eat did cause death of works in earth. Agreed. That is why we have so many sacrifices before eating. After sacrifice a householder is supposed feed guests and then only should he eat. Our mere presence is pain to other creatures. As I said before there is evolution in our way of living in Hinduism represented by Varnashrama system, from Sudra to Brahmana(one's inborn nature) and from Brahmachari to Sannyasi(stages of life). This practical system is given as guide to escape from this cycle of inflicting harm on each other. and finally as I said before we have to avoid what we can avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 it is better to worrry about the invaded ideology who killed millions of brahmans over 1000 years than to worry about the worms killed in farming. Hmmmm.... This problem is serious. Personally I think we Hindus have to solve this by taking a stand. Personally many Hindus also do nto understand the magnitude of this problem. We have to start with educational system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 << We have to start with educational system. >> true. no more hiding of the history - the truth. jai sri krishna! -madhav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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