Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2010 All: This may sound trivial, but I could use some guidance...and I'm wondering if this is about something more than what I'm realizing. There is a tomcat that roams my yard; he is a bother in that he howls in the middle of the night, poops in my yard, and sprays my stuff. He is messing up my newly planted garden. And my garden, well is like my sactuary. I'm like a " crazy " woman stalking this cat late at night. It's disrupting my beauty sleep! But seriously, I don't want the cat pooping in my garden and spraying my stuff. In my sleep I had thought about the cayenne pepper I ate one day. I am thinking that such can be a deterant. Do you know if this is the case? Does anyone know what I can use to scat this cat. My dog just perks her ears. Don't bother hanging tight for any wild chase scene because that just is not going to happen. Can I use essential oils? What can I do to scat this cat, rather than be crouching on my patio lat at night, waiting to pounce and wave my arms. (I think this just makes him laugh at me.) It needs to be safe for my dog and I don't want any chemicles leaching into the ground. I would prefer not to purchase anything over the counter unless it was all natural. I know that there are sound devices and automatic sprinklers etc...I'm just looking for something simple and at minimal cost. I have asked him to leave, but since he visits that much more. I have not asked him to stay, as such a welcome would be false and not truthful. Maybe we should have a KAS Dear Lasha column. Thanks. ~Danielle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2010 dear Danielle Just a reply for the practical aspect. I had an issue with a wayward Tom Kitty, very hyped on inner Tom juice. He would come to my house and terrorize my neutered kitys. They lived in door but he would stalk and cat-a-wail through the glass doors and windows. Became concerned he would break the glass for he would hit it so hard in his pursuit. When we would walk outside he would try to attack. All of that came to the close with a glass full of water with added vinegar. Cats truly dislike the smell of vinegar. When he attempted attack i splashed him. I wonder if you spayed your plants with vinegar water for a few nights if that might end the romance? love for you and wayward Tom sparrow ( correction my spell check is not working, so deleted and cleaned it up.) , " iamwaitingmoon " <iamwaitingmoon wrote: > > All: > This may sound trivial, but I could use some guidance...and I'm wondering if this is about something more than what I'm realizing. > > There is a tomcat that roams my yard; he is a bother in that he howls in the middle of the night, poops in my yard, and sprays my stuff. He is messing up my newly planted garden. And my garden, well is like my sactuary. I'm like a " crazy " woman stalking this cat late at night. It's disrupting my beauty sleep! > > But seriously, I don't want the cat pooping in my garden and spraying my stuff. In my sleep I had thought about the cayenne pepper I ate one day. I am thinking that such can be a deterant. Do you know if this is the case? Does anyone know what I can use to scat this cat. My dog just perks her ears. Don't bother hanging tight for any wild chase scene because that just is not going to happen. > > Can I use essential oils? What can I do to scat this cat, rather than be crouching on my patio lat at night, waiting to pounce and wave my arms. (I think this just makes him laugh at me.) It needs to be safe for my dog and I don't want any chemicles leaching into the ground. I would prefer not to purchase anything over the counter unless it was all natural. I know that there are sound devices and automatic sprinklers etc...I'm just looking for something simple and at minimal cost. I have asked him to leave, but since he visits that much more. I have not asked him to stay, as such a welcome would be false and not truthful. > > Maybe we should have a KAS Dear Lasha column. > > Thanks. > ~Danielle > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Danielle, You may want to see if there is a local no-kill shelter that can come catch him. They will get him fixed, give him shots, and try to find a home for him. Also, there are some organizations that fix feral cats, give them their shots, and then rerelease them - if you can find such an organization, you might ask them to rerelease him elsewhere.... Love, David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Yes, I know of such through my vet clinic. That seems way too easy! After all this is not how I approach things in my life. I have to try to do everything myself first, and then ask for assistance only after I've proven to myself that I cannot tackle it on my own and absolutely have to turn to another. (hmmm...there hides the deeper teaching and learning to scatting this cat.) Maybe he is Senior Don Gato! Meow Meow Meow. ....looks like I have more stuffing to unstuff. Thank you, David. Love and thank you. ~Danielle , " djgottlieb " <dgottlieb wrote: > > Danielle, > > You may want to see if there is a local no-kill shelter that can come catch him. > > Love, > > David > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2010 found this ...all about cars- orange peels perhaps in the yard?? Effective Homemade Cat Repellent 1. Cats use urine to mark territorial ownership. Once a stray cat has used your garden or yard as a litter box, she will consider your territory hers. This means the cat will be more likely to use your car as her bed. While this creates a nuisance for you, the cat means no harm. No cat can comprehend how the human territorial system works. As long as stray cats feel safe and comfortable in your yard you will have to contend with stray cat nuisances. Effective homemade cat repellents will prevent stray cats from feeling safe and comfortable in your territory. Cats do not like water or citrus smells. A simple homemade cat repellent is to make your car smell like citrus. Hang a citrus-scented air freshener from your car mirror. Cats have a strong enough sense of smell to detect the air freshener from outside the car. Another way to make your car smell like citrus is to use citrus scented cleaners to clean your car. Having a dog will protect you from stray cat nuisances, too. In the animal kingdom your territory is the dog's territory. Stray cats will avoid your territory in order to avoid making enemies. The Don'ts of Homemade Cat Repellent 2. There are certain materials you should not use for homemade cat repellent, including cayenne pepper and mothballs. Some herbs, such as eucalyptus and lavender, can be used to successfully repel stray cats without harming the animal. Cayenne pepper is not one of these herbs. Cayenne pepper can be very dangerous if the cat gets the repellent in its eyes. Mothballs are poison and not meant for outdoor use. The last thing you want is for a neighborhood child to accidentally get exposed to the poison you were using as homemade cat repellent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Citrus seems to reign supreme and coffee grounds - and your lavender - Try them all - hope this helps. I use coffee grounds (used) and tea grounds (used). It works very well to keep the critters out of my garden. http://www.cat-repellant.info/ How to Stop Cats from Eating Plants You may be wondering how to stop cats from eating plants. Again, there are no absolutes, but there are a few things you can try. Cats hate getting wet. Therefore, when you catch cats nibbling on your garden plants, you could try spraying them down with a garden hose or water gun to reinforce the fact that they are unwanted near your plants. Alternatively, you can choose to incorporate plants that cats do not find attractive or tasty and are known to avoid. For instance, some plants emit odors that cats find offensive, such as the scaredy-cat plant (Coleus canina). Other plants often recommended for keeping cats away include rue, lavender, rosemary, and pennyroyal. Then again, you could also appeal to their taste buds by planting catnip in areas outside the garden in which they're welcome. Keep Cats Out of Yard To keep cats out of yards, you can try sprinkling offensive substances around the area such as cayenne pepper flakes or ammonia. These repellents can be sprayed around the perimeter as well. Citrus sprays seem to work well too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Be careful with vinegar on your plants, my Dad uses vinegar and soap as a weed killer. Carla On 10 March 2010 12:26, . wrote: > > > > Citrus seems to reign supreme and coffee grounds - and your lavender - > > Try them all - hope this helps. > > I use coffee grounds (used) and tea grounds (used). It works very well to > keep the critters out of my garden. > > http://www.cat-repellant.info/ > > How to Stop Cats from Eating > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Thank you Carla! for this important information. So sorry Danielle after checking on the web found the below answer to use of Vinegar and water mixture directly on plants. Truly is risky to use on plants. Thank you Carla. . . . " wWhat effects does vinegar and water have on plants respectively? Why does vinegar preserve life better than water?? this is from a result of my experiment. -Chansey A: Chansey - I'd be willing to bet that if you tried your experiment a few more times, you'd find that vinegar is good for some types of plants and bad for others. The reason for this actually has to do with the soil, not the water. Different types of plants do best at different soil pH's. Soil pH tells you how much acid there is in the soil. The more acid there is, the lower the pH will be. Since vinegar contains a lot of acid, adding vinegar will lower the soil pH. So if the plant's ideal pH is less than what the soil currently has, adding vinegar will probably do it a lot of good. In particular, if the dirt you're using contains a lot of limestone (a fairly common problem for farmers), the pH will normally be very high (not much acid). This is good for some plants, but bad for others. It is especially bad for blueberries, which will only grow well if the soil has a very low pH. This makes it very hard to grow blueberries in locations with a lot of limestone. But if the plant's ideal pH is higher than where the soil currently is, adding vinegar would not be a good idea. " , " Carla & Patrick " <bowenhealth wrote: > > Be careful with vinegar on your plants, my Dad uses vinegar and soap as a > weed killer. > Carla > > On 10 March 2010 12:26, . wrote: > > > > > > > > > Citrus seems to reign supreme and coffee grounds - and your lavender - > > > > Try them all - hope this helps. > > > > I use coffee grounds (used) and tea grounds (used). It works very well to > > keep the critters out of my garden. > > > > http://www.cat-repellant.info/ > > > > How to Stop Cats from Eating > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Thank you Carla! That would do more than scat a cat. Plus with the nearby dairy smells that linger, I think that combination would be more than I could stomach. I appreciate the tip. Hugs. ~Danielle , " Carla & Patrick " <bowenhealth wrote: > > Be careful with vinegar on your plants, my Dad uses vinegar and soap as a > weed killer. > Carla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2010 dear Danielle I had to come back and speak to my terrible suggestion of spraying a vinegar water mixture on your plants. Om My! I am so so sorry. As much as you love your garden, and if you little babies, the little melons would of withered i do not even have words for how terrible that would be. So Sorry Danielle. Hanging my head in shame. So sorry. sparrow , " iamwaitingmoon " <iamwaitingmoon wrote: > > Thank you Carla! That would do more than scat a cat. Plus with the nearby dairy smells that linger, I think that combination would be more than I could stomach. I appreciate the tip. > > Hugs. > ~Danielle > > , " Carla & Patrick " bowenhealth@ wrote: > > > > Be careful with vinegar on your plants, my Dad uses vinegar and soap as a > > weed killer. > > Carla > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Oh beautiful Sparrow, you cannot sing when your head is hanging in shame. Tilt that chin up to the sky, precious, gentle soul. There is absolutely no need to be so hard on yourself. I'm not a big vinegar fan and so this would have been my last resort...plus the soil here is very alkaline. Some flowers thrive on vinegar as an additive. Love to you, and I appreciate the guidance. ~Danielle , " Ordinary Sparrow " <ordinarysparrow wrote: > > dear Danielle > would be. So Sorry Danielle. > > Hanging my head in shame. So sorry. > > sparrow > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Danielle  I read your post and also the one of sparrow..  I am getting confuse here...I also have cats outside home making noisy etc .....but we are talking here of surrender...so I dont get it when you guys speak about throwing vinager to them...  Blessings --- El mié, 3/10/10, iamwaitingmoon <iamwaitingmoon escribió: De: iamwaitingmoon <iamwaitingmoon Asunto: Scat Cat A: Fecha: miércoles, 10 de marzo de 2010, 08:04 am  All: This may sound trivial, but I could use some guidance...and I'm wondering if this is about something more than what I'm realizing. There is a tomcat that roams my yard; he is a bother in that he howls in the middle of the night, poops in my yard, and sprays my stuff. He is messing up my newly planted garden. And my garden, well is like my sactuary. I'm like a " crazy " woman stalking this cat late at night. It's disrupting my beauty sleep! But seriously, I don't want the cat pooping in my garden and spraying my stuff. In my sleep I had thought about the cayenne pepper I ate one day. I am thinking that such can be a deterant. Do you know if this is the case? Does anyone know what I can use to scat this cat. My dog just perks her ears. Don't bother hanging tight for any wild chase scene because that just is not going to happen. Can I use essential oils? What can I do to scat this cat, rather than be crouching on my patio lat at night, waiting to pounce and wave my arms. (I think this just makes him laugh at me.) It needs to be safe for my dog and I don't want any chemicles leaching into the ground. I would prefer not to purchase anything over the counter unless it was all natural. I know that there are sound devices and automatic sprinklers etc...I'm just looking for something simple and at minimal cost. I have asked him to leave, but since he visits that much more. I have not asked him to stay, as such a welcome would be false and not truthful. Maybe we should have a KAS Dear Lasha column. Thanks. ~Danielle ______________________________\ ____ ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./ieak8/?l=e1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 11, 2010 No worries sparrow... please... I just wanted to say that I appreciate this thread; as trying to be respectful to our nurturing mother earth is important to me. I love the essential oil list. Carla On 10 March 2010 20:42, Ordinary Sparrow <ordinarysparrow wrote: > > > > R <ordinarysparrow?subject=Re:+Scat+Cat> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Namaste dear Monique Ahh. . . truly did not intend to bring forth confusion. Yesterday morning i read the email from Danielle and related an experience with Morley ( the Tom Cat) that i sprayed with water and vinegar. After reading your reply this morning went back and re-read Danielle's email. Oh My, 'my brain', realized on re-read it was not the Tom Cat that was crouching on the patio to attach but it was our dear Danielle. lol! My sharing with Danielle was trying to address the aggressive behavior issue. Then i mindlessly suggested vinegar water might work on the ground area as a deterrent. The later is not a good suggestion for it can alter the ph in the soil and for some soils this can create too much acidity for plants to grow and thrive. Not a good suggestion! Monique i will give a bit of information about little furball neighbor Morley:) He would violently attack my husband and myself as we attempted to walk out the door. He would sit outside the glass door and wait for one of my kitty cats to come into sight and then he would throw himself with extreme force into hard glass door. I became very concerned for both him and the door. This act seemed to just enrage him more. He would run and jump on the window screens and wail as he destroyed screens. Dear Morley believed the entire neighborhood was his territory and that was okay with me, but his ways where not my ways when it came to peaceful relations. As Donald Duck use to say; " This was war. " and i really never approached the issue back then as spiritual surrender, but K Ma has cleaned me up a wee bit since that time(?) I have great acceptance that " Tom Cats do what Tom Cats need to do " How would we know the first signs of Spring without Cat-a-Wailings and Robins rushing around on the ground pulling out earthworms? " And this too, And this too, and for those like dear Morley, " And that too. " Monique if Morley had not been violent i would of readily accepted his TomCat-a-Wailing. I love Mother Nature and all animals, in truth would of never survived this life without the great healing, love and interconnection with Nature and Creatures. In truth Mother Nature and all her children are my Most Holy Scriptures and expression of Sacred Divine. So sorry for my ineptness of communication that must of seemed cruel and non-surrendering to you dear Monique. If Morley came visiting again this day with the same behavior, would once again splash him with water and vinegar. For me the issue fits more into acceptance and non-acceptance of destructive behavior rather than surrender or non-surrender. My soul is at peace with splashing dear Morley with vinegar and water. I can readily hold Morley with love with all his bad boy ways, while at the same time feel peace and rightness for setting healthy boundaries for him into my small world. My vinegar splash was cat language Morley could understand. In his Tom Cat ways he understood marking with pungent odor. I too can embrace my own territorial and self preservative instinct and my pungent spray of apple cider vinegar and water was a shared common language. I think of Brother Roger often. He was the beautiful Saint from Italy that has brought back the beautiful Taize music and used music as a way to promote peace in the world. Truly a most beautiful soul. He was in a Taize service and a woman came forth with a knife and repeatably stabbed him to death. It was reported that Brother Roger did not even move his hands to fend off the attack. I have so often thought of that kind of acceptance. Then i think of Gandhi and his wonderful non-violence teachings. Gandhi says we are not to be aggressors but it we are attacked we are to protect ourselves. I aspire to resonate with Gandhi but truly am not any where near Brother Roger in the depth of spiritual surrender that could accept a complete stance of being non-protective in the face of violence. Thank you Monique for helping me to see the misunderstanding about who was crouching for attack for that really does clarify an important difference between times to and other times to create safety for limb and vine. Sincerly Thank you. And so glad i got to see the image of Danielle as " Crouching Tiger/Hidden Dragon. " Since November have been in a place with intense energy with K Ma and the energy work i am involved with. The wrapping is very strong, painful and intense in the front and mid-section of the brain. I am deeply connected to the Earth energies and as the shifts in the earthquake occurs i experience the plates and mush in my own head being rearranged, very much in sync with Mother Earth. Through the years of weaving has shown the synchronicity with Mother Earth. There is a heightened acceptance that all of us moving through the K Ma Awakening are deeply connected to Earth and Sky, Sun and Moon to the One that is giving birth to us all. This time period had been one of the most painful and difficult in years for me. Right after the severe earthquakes i could hardly speak a sentence and get the words arranged properly, such an experience of brain fog and depersonalization. The fog is beginning to lift but i am still experiencing evidence that i am still not expressing or receiving with clarity. So sorry for the things and ways i express that might bring forth confusion for some. I also read your second issue about your challenge with cats. Monique would you feel comfortable writting out a free word association concerning cats? Just write out a list of words that come forth when you hear the word " CAT " . Truly Cats are wonderful creatures not bad for me. Luna my kitty has been my constant companion. I could write pages about the love and gratitude i have for her. And just last week she snipped the second set of noice reducing headphones. The first new set lasted one day and the second set lasted 4 days. The first time i thought it was funny when the noise went off and i looked up and there sat Luna with one half of the cord still in her mouth looking at me. The second time it was not so funny. If her food bowl starts to get empty she goes after my cords. And like Danielle am trying to solve that one in a negotiating manner. At present she has found the solution, Keep the Cat Food Bowl FULL and ignore the vet that says she is too fat. love and peace in all things for you dear Monique Hug sparrow , Monica <monikaeslava wrote: > > Dear Danielle >  > I read your post and also the one of sparrow.. >  > I am getting confuse here...I also have cats outside home making noisy etc ....but we are talking here of surrender...so I dont get it when you guys speak about throwing vinager to them... >  > Blessings > > --- El mié, 3/10/10, iamwaitingmoon iamwaitingmoon escribió: > > > De: iamwaitingmoon iamwaitingmoon > Asunto: Scat Cat > A: > Fecha: miércoles, 10 de marzo de 2010, 08:04 am > > >  > > > > All: > This may sound trivial, but I could use some guidance...and I'm wondering if this is about something more than what I'm realizing. > > There is a tomcat that roams my yard; he is a bother in that he howls in the middle of the night, poops in my yard, and sprays my stuff. He is messing up my newly planted garden. And my garden, well is like my sactuary. I'm like a " crazy " woman stalking this cat late at night. It's disrupting my beauty sleep! > > But seriously, I don't want the cat pooping in my garden and spraying my stuff. In my sleep I had thought about the cayenne pepper I ate one day. I am thinking that such can be a deterant. Do you know if this is the case? Does anyone know what I can use to scat this cat. My dog just perks her ears. Don't bother hanging tight for any wild chase scene because that just is not going to happen. > > Can I use essential oils? What can I do to scat this cat, rather than be crouching on my patio lat at night, waiting to pounce and wave my arms. (I think this just makes him laugh at me.) It needs to be safe for my dog and I don't want any chemicles leaching into the ground. I would prefer not to purchase anything over the counter unless it was all natural. I know that there are sound devices and automatic sprinklers etc...I'm just looking for something simple and at minimal cost. I have asked him to leave, but since he visits that much more. I have not asked him to stay, as such a welcome would be false and not truthful. > > Maybe we should have a KAS Dear Lasha column. > > Thanks. > ~Danielle > > > > > > > > > > ______________________\ ____________ > ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! > Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. > http://downloads./ieak8/?l=e1 > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Hi Danielle, So you have a cute loud wild visitor at night? Hmmmm... maybe a sign of good things to come (; What I have noticed in my life is that everything and I do mean everything that comes into my life - my experience is like a mirror of the inside. For example for many years I had a hard time with this one person. She was quite mean to me (oh ... poor me right!ha) Well to be honest she was quite mean to most people. Anyway being the overly sensitive person I can be I took her comments quite hard. How could someone be so mean why does she do this; every time I heard her say something cruel to others it would make me angry - thoughts of why can't she just be kind to others why won't she leave me alone - i do everything i can to avoid her and yet it seems there she shows up again - this function or that. I didn't want to go to these things because she was there - I knew she would be whispering and talking about everyone behind their backs ... I knew she would be doing that to me too. Anyway the more I resisted her - the more I tried to get her OUT of my life - the more I focused on her " meanness " the more I got. I would be nice to her and yet it didn't matter. So after awhile I started thinking about all people in general. No one is all good or all bad. Duality. There is that something inside us all - more beautiful than the stars. And then I was thinking - that sometimes she was nice and fun although. So what part am I having in this? You know why is she always giving me her nasty side? So at night when I lay down to sleep is when I feel love and appreciation for all those things in this world and beyond. I decided to start feeling so for her. I realized that she must feel intense pain inside to be like this towards others. Now at first I could not think of her and feel authentic love - pure appreciation for her completely. As soon as she popped into my mind I would tense up you know? So I would lay there and feel love and appreciation for all those things that come easy to me. And that feeling of purity I guess would expand and expand and I could include more and more - and when I was at the point of just feeling love for the whole for God and all - for there is not one thing that God is not or is not in (however you view it) then I could easier feel this for her. Knowing the divinity in her is just as real as the divinity in the flower. So I would do this feel much love and appreciation for her. I was not trying to get rid of her (although I admit it started out this way) but in time without any resisting her being in any way I was able to feel this - and I had my lessons - she would come back into my life and I would hear her say this or that to someone or me - and it took some time before I could stand before her and know that this is not who she really is - this is her pain - i could love her not out of pity but out of all the trials we all go through here in life. And as time went by - she began being nice to me. She began showing me that side of herself - the fun side the lighter side. Now if I wrote this post to you and told you the things that went on - the story - the mean things - the even cruel things said to kids - my point being it was quite difficult to feel this for her. As time went on I rarely saw her and I still rarely see her. But she does things that blow my mind now. She sends me a note on holidays and such wishing me well. When she sees me she gives me a hug. People joke to me wondering if I paid her off or something. So maybe you could try something like this with your cat. At first it seems like you are wanting to get rid of the cat. In time that will change - to whatever Shakti brings you it matters not you accept- no resisting anything or it seems in my experience to get bigger - Another trick is to pretend that its your best friend playing with you. And in a way it is. Shakti often takes the animals and (perhaps their egos are not as hard to get through ha) and uses them for us. So imagine its your best friend out there - imagine them playing in your yard - imagine them teasing you while you are sleeping making all sorts of noise and messing up your yard. Its like a little way - actually a gentle way - of Shakti giving you the opportunity to work through something in an easier way because when its people that can be cruel or whatever - it gets a bit harder to love - to surrender to whatever she brings - but the truth is these things will come up and its good for you to get your feet wet - because as you do so with the cat and watch how the circumstances change in your life - you will eventually be able to stand tall and strong - the world could be going nuts and you will be able to know and feel the complete grace that you are - the complete grace that runs through your being and allow this divinity to be the one that you have merged with in all these situations - and this is what will help all those around you. Its always the divinity. There will be other things that come up and if you can give this a try and see how it works out for you - then you will always be able to draw on this experience like I can now do with the person that was giving me a hard time. Not btw that its always immediate ha no - but in time I now know how to get there - even when it seems impossible - just have to keep reminding myself. You can pretend its out there making a lot of noise pretending he's a cat. ha When you roll over - laugh at that thought of him out there playing trying to spook you or annoy you - pretend hes teasing you. So when you awaken laugh about it - feel how great it is that he is having all that fun - laugh that he is trying to make you afraid or annoyed - but you know now its all a game. So roll over - put some headphones on if you want - not in resistance but in laughter - let him have his fun but you are going to sleep happily knowing that that cat out there is playing playing playing. Eventually when these things come up we can get to that point where there is no need to feel we have to DO anything. Its that same peace inside when you are in mediation. Because its always divinity so when something happens we won't have to give it any energy for it won't cause anything but a moment of dancing this way or that. And me I usually slam into many trees, actually the same one over and over and over until finally I can do what I wrote in whatever situation but it takes me soooooooooo much knocking myself around until getting to that point - so my stuff comes up and up - I know how to work through it but sometimes I just cannot - so no worries if this doesnt do anything for you - the next full moon i know i will be in it - I'll reread this and want to strangle myself for the bunch of words that are not taking away my pain! ha So first thing is never feel bad about yourself if you cannot " Feel " love for the situation - first always to accept ourselves and love ourselves even when we are not feeling loving. Then we'll easier be able to stand in the storm and when these annoyances and emotions and fears come - the real will be to stand there and see them and let them pass - there is no energy we have to do or send - they will be like the wind. Perhaps you can already do try that now - look at it and allow whatever to be be - things will always get better - but if not (usually i don't jump to this spot right away) laugh at in his cat costume - he got your attention didn't he? - and maybe that cat that we think is doing harm is doing something bigger here? Sending you some sweet love - and btw Danielle who wouldnt want to be around you - your heart is beautiful - And also Danielle do what feels right to you - mentioning this because this has helped me and maybe its worth a try - you'll know inside whats good for you when you go into your meditation and try these suggestions on - shakti will let you know for all you need is what is already there - (remind me of this soon i'll be needing a sweet reminder or a gentle kick or maybe a big one - will let you know!) The other night I saw a raccoon, a possum, a skunk, and a rabbit all together just feet from each other doing their thing - all calm and beautiful and peaceful. This is the second time I've seen this - made me feel really good - don't know why i feel like telling you that but i liked it (: Shoot I just thought of something....if you still want to spray vinegar now at that cat - i think i ruined it for you - maybe chrism doesn't mind a little vinegar ? He can use it on his salad? ha lots of sweet sweet love Danielle! Mia/D (aka other Deb) , Monica <monikaeslava wrote: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 11, 2010 dear Mia Just a quick note to take responsibility. It was not Danielle that ever desired or considered to spray the Tom Cat with Vinegar/Water mixture, that was my suggestion as i attempted to share my experience. You have a beautiful soul expression Mia and i bow with honor to all that you are. A heartfelt Namaste to you at all levels. sincerly sparrow , " flowerpowers7777 " <flowerpowers7777 wrote: > > Hi Danielle, > > So you have a cute loud wild visitor at night? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Hi our dear Sparrow, I have missed you much! I hope you were taking some beautiful time out for yourself! I'm sorry I did not read all the posts and I didn't see the one with the vinegar just the mention of it. If it came from you I know it was exactly what was needed for you have given me exactly what I needed time and time again. Love you so Sparrow! And you know what? I remember a time when you spoke of that woman who went around the world giving hugs and love to others. I finally saw her on video and indeed the love that comes from her is immense. So thank you for that - it was a beautiful sight to see and she was so light-hearted and loving like a sweet mother just hugging one person after another. I was amazed how such a simple thing was so powerful! Thank you for your kind words - i think i'm glowing ... Giving you a squeeze - a sweet one! I just ate an orange - so its a citrus squeeze (: yeah...i'm kinda a goof Mia D. (aka. Deb) , " Ordinary Sparrow " <ordinarysparrow wrote: > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Dear Sparrow Now worries¡KI think we are all learning and helping each other somehow! I understand what you said! I understand ! I made the question innocently because I experienced many furious cats trying to attack me but those are K tests so when you speak about defending from them by attacking with vinegar I get bit lost on the subject! So I said to myself¡Kohh good idea..ohh but surrender?.! I never feared cats or so. I know they are good and cute¡KI love animals. These ones I speak about are holographic ones¡Kappear,,dissapear..some of them very very violent and aggressive.! I think Deb guided me in love and hope and trust about it..she had similar experiences. Lets see now how I do about it. For the last year all the cats I find are these type so It has been difficult to say¡Kohh yes cats=cute and good ..to be honest those are not cute at all ¡Kthey are just what they are..violent cats. I can also understand how hard this experience has been for you. I also had this strong pain on my head and strong flows of light in my brain. We do just our best in the light of knowledge and wisdom given by God! Blessings My name is Monica ..I think there is other Monique around here , " Ordinary Sparrow " <ordinarysparrow wrote: > > Namaste > > dear Monique > > Ahh. . . truly did not intend to bring forth confusion. > > Yesterday morning i read the email from Danielle and related an > experience with Morley ( the Tom Cat) that i sprayed with water and > vinegar. > > > After reading your reply this morning went back and re-read Danielle's > email. Oh My, 'my brain', realized on re-read it was not the Tom Cat > that was crouching on the patio to attach but it was our dear Danielle. > lol! > > My sharing with Danielle was trying to address the aggressive behavior > issue. Then i mindlessly suggested vinegar water might work on the > ground area as a deterrent. The later is not a good suggestion for it > can alter the ph in the soil and for some soils this can create too much > acidity for plants to grow and thrive. Not a good suggestion! > > Monique i will give a bit of information about little furball neighbor > Morley:) He would violently attack my husband and myself as we > attempted to walk out the door. He would sit outside the glass door and > wait for one of my kitty cats to come into sight and then he would throw > himself with extreme force into hard glass door. I became very > concerned for both him and the door. This act seemed to just enrage him > more. He would run and jump on the window screens and wail as he > destroyed screens. Dear Morley believed the entire neighborhood was > his territory and that was okay with me, but his ways where not my ways > when it came to peaceful relations. > > As Donald Duck use to say; " This was war. " and i really never > approached the issue back then as spiritual surrender, but K Ma has > cleaned me up a wee bit since that time(?) > > I have great acceptance that " Tom Cats do what Tom Cats need to do " How > would we know the first signs of Spring without Cat-a-Wailings and > Robins rushing around on the ground pulling out earthworms? " And this > too, And this too, and for those like dear Morley, " And that too. " > > Monique if Morley had not been violent i would of readily accepted his > TomCat-a-Wailing. I love Mother Nature and all animals, in truth would > of never survived this life without the great healing, love and > interconnection with Nature and Creatures. In truth Mother Nature and > all her children are my Most Holy Scriptures and expression of Sacred > Divine. So sorry for my ineptness of communication that must of seemed > cruel and non-surrendering to you dear Monique. > > If Morley came visiting again this day with the same behavior, would > once again splash him with water and vinegar. For me the issue fits > more into acceptance and non-acceptance of destructive behavior rather > than surrender or non-surrender. My soul is at peace with splashing > dear Morley with vinegar and water. I can readily hold Morley with love > with all his bad boy ways, while at the same time feel peace and > rightness for setting healthy boundaries for him into my small world. > My vinegar splash was cat language Morley could understand. In his Tom > Cat ways he understood marking with pungent odor. I too can embrace my > own territorial and self preservative instinct and my pungent spray of > apple cider vinegar and water was a shared common language. > > > I think of Brother Roger often. He was the beautiful Saint from Italy > that has brought back the beautiful Taize music and used music as a way > to promote peace in the world. Truly a most beautiful soul. He was in > a Taize service and a woman came forth with a knife and repeatably > stabbed him to death. It was reported that Brother Roger did not even > move his hands to fend off the attack. I have so often thought of that > kind of acceptance. Then i think of Gandhi and his wonderful > non-violence teachings. Gandhi says we are not to be aggressors but it > we are attacked we are to protect ourselves. I aspire to resonate with > Gandhi but truly am not any where near Brother Roger in the depth of > spiritual surrender that could accept a complete stance of being > non-protective in the face of violence. > > Thank you Monique for helping me to see the misunderstanding about who > was crouching for attack for that really does clarify an important > difference between times to and other times to create safety for limb > and vine. Sincerly Thank you. And so glad i got to see the image of > Danielle as " Crouching Tiger/Hidden Dragon. " > > Since November have been in a place with intense energy with K Ma and > the energy work i am involved with. The wrapping is very strong, > painful and intense in the front and mid-section of the brain. I am > deeply connected to the Earth energies and as the shifts in the > earthquake occurs i experience the plates and mush in my own head being > rearranged, very much in sync with Mother Earth. Through the years of > weaving has shown the synchronicity with Mother Earth. There is a > heightened acceptance that all of us moving through the K Ma Awakening > are deeply connected to Earth and Sky, Sun and Moon to the One that is > giving birth to us all. This time period had been one of the most > painful and difficult in years for me. Right after the severe > earthquakes i could hardly speak a sentence and get the words arranged > properly, such an experience of brain fog and depersonalization. The > fog is beginning to lift but i am still experiencing evidence that i > am still not expressing or receiving with clarity. So sorry for the > things and ways i express that might bring forth confusion for some. > > I also read your second issue about your challenge with cats. Monique > would you feel comfortable writting out a free word association > concerning cats? Just write out a list of words that come forth when > you hear the word " CAT " . > > Truly Cats are wonderful creatures not bad for me. Luna my kitty has > been my constant companion. I could > write pages about the love and gratitude i have for her. And just last > week she snipped the second set of noice reducing headphones. The > first new set lasted one day and the second set lasted 4 days. The > first time i thought it was funny when the noise went off and i looked > up and there sat Luna with one half of the cord still in her mouth > looking at me. The second time it was not so funny. If her food > bowl starts to get empty she goes after my cords. And like Danielle am > trying to solve that one in a negotiating manner. At present she has > found the solution, Keep the Cat Food Bowl FULL and ignore the vet that > says she is too fat. > > > love and peace in all things for you dear Monique > > Hug > sparrow > > > > > > , Monica > <monikaeslava@> wrote: > > > > Dear Danielle > > ?> > I read your post and also the one of sparrow.. > > ?> > I am getting confuse here...I also have cats outside home making noisy > etc? ....but we are talking here of surrender...so I dont get it > when you guys speak about throwing vinager to them... > > ?> > Blessings > > > > --- El mié, 3/10/10, iamwaitingmoon iamwaitingmoon@ > escribió: > > > > > > De: iamwaitingmoon iamwaitingmoon@ > > Asunto: Scat Cat > > A: > > Fecha: miércoles, 10 de marzo de 2010, 08:04 am > > > > > > ?> > > > > > > > All: > > This may sound trivial, but I could use some guidance...and I'm > wondering if this is about something more than what I'm realizing. > > > > There is a tomcat that roams my yard; he is a bother in that he howls > in the middle of the night, poops in my yard, and sprays my stuff. He is > messing up my newly planted garden. And my garden, well is like my > sactuary. I'm like a " crazy " woman stalking this cat late at night. It's > disrupting my beauty sleep! > > > > But seriously, I don't want the cat pooping in my garden and spraying > my stuff. In my sleep I had thought about the cayenne pepper I ate one > day. I am thinking that such can be a deterant. Do you know if this is > the case? Does anyone know what I can use to scat this cat. My dog just > perks her ears. Don't bother hanging tight for any wild chase scene > because that just is not going to happen. > > > > Can I use essential oils? What can I do to scat this cat, rather than > be crouching on my patio lat at night, waiting to pounce and wave my > arms. (I think this just makes him laugh at me.) It needs to be safe for > my dog and I don't want any chemicles leaching into the ground. I would > prefer not to purchase anything over the counter unless it was all > natural. I know that there are sound devices and automatic sprinklers > etc...I'm just looking for something simple and at minimal cost. I have > asked him to leave, but since he visits that much more. I have not asked > him to stay, as such a welcome would be false and not truthful. > > > > Maybe we should have a KAS Dear Lasha column. > > > > Thanks. > > ~Danielle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________\ > ____________ > > ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! > > Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. > > http://downloads./ieak8/?l=e1 > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
