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Hari OM, Namaste,

I have recently heard of John Crowder an evangelist helping the masses to get

intoxicated on God with imaginary smoking of Jehovawana and drinking Godka (as

in marijuana and vodka)and these people, some of them appear to be experiencing

kriyas while in trance as do people when experiencing intence shaktipat.

John Crowder is also offering 'Mystery Schools' with the following

 

Operate in Trances, Raptures & Ecstatic Prayer

Experience Physical Phenomena of Mysticism

Get Activated in Creative Miracles, Signs & Wonders

Understand & Access New Creation Realities

Gain A Historical Grid of Miracle Workers & Mystics

Be Activated in the Seer Realm, Prophecy, Spirit Travel

Receive Open Heavens & Revelatory Understanding

Access and Manifest the Glory Realm

 

There are youtube videos too to watch of the intoxication from the evangelelism

etc.

 

Is this shaktipat? Is this hypnosis? Is this something else? Is this Real?

 

Usually when I write something - as I write it I percieve the answers

to my question, but here and now I do not.

 

Satchitananda~jeremy

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Jeremy,

 

As far as I know, intoxicants like alcohol only foster the dark. Marijuana can

have some positive attributes, but it can make you stupid. especially when you

combine the two. Like says, the only plant that should be used for K

activation is Yage. I have used mushrooms and Lsd and mescaline for out of body

experiences, but would not reccomend their use outside of a trusted shamen or

the like. The potential for auric damage is too great and then you would have no

protection and the rest of your life would be basically insane. Trust only

shakti within and use only your intuition to guide you. The people you speak of

are being used and duped into a false sense of enlightenment. I hope you can

see the potential damage that can be done if these ways are used.

 

Love, Scott

 

 

 

 

 

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Jeremy <jezzwhizz

 

Mon, February 22, 2010 3:01:06 PM

Sons of Thunder John Crowder

 

 

Hari OM, Namaste,

I have recently heard of John Crowder an evangelist helping the masses to get

intoxicated on God with imaginary smoking of Jehovawana and drinking Godka (as

in marijuana and vodka)and these people, some of them appear to be experiencing

kriyas while in trance as do people when experiencing intence shaktipat.

John Crowder is also offering 'Mystery Schools' with the following

 

Operate in Trances, Raptures & Ecstatic Prayer

Experience Physical Phenomena of Mysticism

Get Activated in Creative Miracles, Signs & Wonders

Understand & Access New Creation Realities

Gain A Historical Grid of Miracle Workers & Mystics

Be Activated in the Seer Realm, Prophecy, Spirit Travel

Receive Open Heavens & Revelatory Understanding

Access and Manifest the Glory Realm

 

There are youtube videos too to watch of the intoxication from the evangelelism

etc.

 

Is this shaktipat? Is this hypnosis? Is this something else? Is this Real?

 

Usually when I write something - as I write it I percieve the answers

to my question, but here and now I do not.

 

Satchitananda~ jeremy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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When I re-read your post I saw the word imaginary about the pot and vodka. My

mistake. I hope my reply doesn't look stupid.

 

 

 

 

 

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Jeremy <jezzwhizz

 

Mon, February 22, 2010 3:01:06 PM

Sons of Thunder John Crowder

 

 

Hari OM, Namaste,

I have recently heard of John Crowder an evangelist helping the masses to get

intoxicated on God with imaginary smoking of Jehovawana and drinking Godka (as

in marijuana and vodka)and these people, some of them appear to be experiencing

kriyas while in trance as do people when experiencing intence shaktipat.

John Crowder is also offering 'Mystery Schools' with the following

 

Operate in Trances, Raptures & Ecstatic Prayer

Experience Physical Phenomena of Mysticism

Get Activated in Creative Miracles, Signs & Wonders

Understand & Access New Creation Realities

Gain A Historical Grid of Miracle Workers & Mystics

Be Activated in the Seer Realm, Prophecy, Spirit Travel

Receive Open Heavens & Revelatory Understanding

Access and Manifest the Glory Realm

 

There are youtube videos too to watch of the intoxication from the evangelelism

etc.

 

Is this shaktipat? Is this hypnosis? Is this something else? Is this Real?

 

Usually when I write something - as I write it I percieve the answers

to my question, but here and now I do not.

 

Satchitananda~ jeremy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Have you ever heard of being " drunk in the Holy Spirit " I've seen it, I've been

to many churches where they are dancing and speaking in toungues and all that

stuff. It was pretty awesome, but as a kid a little terrifying. But it's real.

Maybe that's what this guy is talking about?

 

Laura

 

, " Jeremy " <jezzwhizz

wrote:

>

> Hari OM, Namaste,

> I have recently heard of John Crowder an evangelist helping the masses to get

intoxicated on God with imaginary smoking of Jehovawana and drinking Godka (as

in marijuana and vodka)and these people, some of them appear to be experiencing

kriyas while in trance as do people when experiencing intence shaktipat.

> John Crowder is also offering 'Mystery Schools' with the following

>

> Operate in Trances, Raptures & Ecstatic Prayer

> Experience Physical Phenomena of Mysticism

> Get Activated in Creative Miracles, Signs & Wonders

> Understand & Access New Creation Realities

> Gain A Historical Grid of Miracle Workers & Mystics

> Be Activated in the Seer Realm, Prophecy, Spirit Travel

> Receive Open Heavens & Revelatory Understanding

> Access and Manifest the Glory Realm

>

> There are youtube videos too to watch of the intoxication from the

evangelelism etc.

>

> Is this shaktipat? Is this hypnosis? Is this something else? Is this Real?

>

> Usually when I write something - as I write it I percieve the answers

> to my question, but here and now I do not.

>

> Satchitananda~jeremy

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I have, that is the type of church I attended the whole year I lived in North

Dakota. It was a Vineyard Church and was totally free in the Spirit compare to

the Full Gospel churches here in Texas, although I am sure there are some

around, but not here in Victoria.

 

I have experienced that, being " drunk in the Holy Spirit " . LOL!

 

Love,

Linda

 

, " Laura " <lo1o113

wrote:

>

> Have you ever heard of being " drunk in the Holy Spirit " I've seen it, I've

been to many churches where they are dancing and speaking in toungues and all

that stuff. It was pretty awesome, but as a kid a little terrifying. But it's

real. Maybe that's what this guy is talking about?

>

> Laura

>

> , " Jeremy " <jezzwhizz@>

wrote:

>> > Satchitananda~jeremy

> >

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You have? That's awesome Linda!

 

Laura

 

, " danceswithcats999 "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

>

> I have, that is the type of church I attended the whole year I lived in North

Dakota. It was a Vineyard Church and was totally free in the Spirit compare to

the Full Gospel churches here in Texas, although I am sure there are some

around, but not here in Victoria.

>

> I have experienced that, being " drunk in the Holy Spirit " . LOL!

>

> Love,

> Linda

>

> , " Laura " <lo1o113@>

wrote:

> >

> > Have you ever heard of being " drunk in the Holy Spirit " I've seen it, I've

been to many churches where they are dancing and speaking in toungues and all

that stuff. It was pretty awesome, but as a kid a little terrifying. But it's

real. Maybe that's what this guy is talking about?

> >

> > Laura

> >

> > , " Jeremy " <jezzwhizz@>

wrote:

> >> > Satchitananda~jeremy

> > >

> >

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Hocus Pokus.

Don't go there.

Love & Light, Pamela

 

, " Jeremy " <jezzwhizz

wrote:

>

> Hari OM, Namaste,

> I have recently heard of John Crowder an evangelist helping the masses to get

intoxicated on God with imaginary smoking of Jehovawana and drinking Godka (as

in marijuana and vodka)and these people, some of them appear to be experiencing

kriyas while in trance as do people when experiencing intence shaktipat.

> John Crowder is also offering 'Mystery Schools' with the following

>

> Operate in Trances, Raptures & Ecstatic Prayer

> Experience Physical Phenomena of Mysticism

> Get Activated in Creative Miracles, Signs & Wonders

> Understand & Access New Creation Realities

> Gain A Historical Grid of Miracle Workers & Mystics

> Be Activated in the Seer Realm, Prophecy, Spirit Travel

> Receive Open Heavens & Revelatory Understanding

> Access and Manifest the Glory Realm

>

> There are youtube videos too to watch of the intoxication from the

evangelelism etc.

>

> Is this shaktipat? Is this hypnosis? Is this something else? Is this Real?

>

> Usually when I write something - as I write it I percieve the answers

> to my question, but here and now I do not.

>

> Satchitananda~jeremy

>

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I agree Pamela,I went to youtube to check him out and these guys did appear to

me as bogus. The oj oj oj sound, is the same as I heard from that Todd Bentley

character. His ministry is much the same, but maybe a little tamer. LOL! It is

not anything like the sound of tongues I have experienced.

 

Linda

 

, " pkmorphew "

<pkmorphew wrote:

>

> Hocus Pokus.

> Don't go there.

> Love & Light, Pamela

>

> , " Jeremy " <jezzwhizz@>

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That is too bad, I would like to think it is real...

 

Laura

 

, " danceswithcats999 "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

> I agree Pamela,I went to youtube to check him out and these guys did appear to

me as bogus. The oj oj oj sound, is the same as I heard from that Todd Bentley

character. His ministry is much the same, but maybe a little tamer. LOL! It is

not anything like the sound of tongues I have experienced.

>

> Linda

>

> , " pkmorphew " <pkmorphew@>

wrote:

> >

> > Hocus Pokus.

> > Don't go there.

> > Love & Light, Pamela

> >

> > , " Jeremy " <jezzwhizz@>

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I suppose it could be real Laura, it is real in that it is happening. It just

did not resonate with me. It reminded me too much of TV evangelist and their

showy exaggerations. People are desparate for healings. IMO, it is their

believing that is healing themselves.

 

Linda

 

, " Laura " <lo1o113

wrote:

>

> That is too bad, I would like to think it is real...

>

> Laura

>

> , " danceswithcats999 "

<crazycats711@> wrote:

> >

> > I agree Pamela,I went to youtube to check him out and these guys did appear

to me as bogus. The oj oj oj sound, is the same as I heard from that Todd

Bentley character. His ministry is much the same, but maybe a little tamer.

LOL! It is not anything like the sound of tongues I have experienced.

> >

> > Linda

> >

> > , " pkmorphew "

<pkmorphew@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hocus Pokus.

> > > Don't go there.

> > > Love & Light, Pamela

> > >

> > > , " Jeremy "

<jezzwhizz@> wrote:

> >

>

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Your right Linda,

It starts with the believing. Very powerful.

 

Laura

 

, " danceswithcats999 "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

> I suppose it could be real Laura, it is real in that it is happening. It just

did not resonate with me. It reminded me too much of TV evangelist and their

showy exaggerations. People are desparate for healings. IMO, it is their

believing that is healing themselves.

>

> Linda

>

> , " Laura " <lo1o113@>

wrote:

> >

> > That is too bad, I would like to think it is real...

> >

> > Laura

> >

> > , " danceswithcats999 "

<crazycats711@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I agree Pamela,I went to youtube to check him out and these guys did

appear to me as bogus. The oj oj oj sound, is the same as I heard from that Todd

Bentley character. His ministry is much the same, but maybe a little tamer.

LOL! It is not anything like the sound of tongues I have experienced.

> > >

> > > Linda

> > >

> > > , " pkmorphew "

<pkmorphew@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hocus Pokus.

> > > > Don't go there.

> > > > Love & Light, Pamela

> > > >

> > > > , " Jeremy "

<jezzwhizz@> wrote:

> > >

> >

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Thanks for everyone's postings. I always struggled with evangelism, could never

quite put my finger on it, intellectually believing that for some it must be

true descent of the Holy Spirit and for some a form of mass hypnosis. My own

posting, and the replies I have received confirms in a concrete form my

statement. It is a collective mass hypnosis, but for the odd chosen one it is

an experience of the Holy Spirit. It seems clear healing is not from a minister,

or an evangelical meeting, healing is direct from the Soul , or Shakti, or maybe

from Grace, yes Grace and the Soul. Please forgive me if I am wrong, or have

said anything offensive to an individual, I am a student with little or no

wisdom. Bleesings to All...Satchitananda~jeremy

 

, " Laura " <lo1o113

wrote:

>

> Your right Linda,

> It starts with the believing. Very powerful.

>

> Laura

>

> , " danceswithcats999 "

<crazycats711@> wrote:

> >

> > I suppose it could be real Laura, it is real in that it is happening. It

just did not resonate with me. It reminded me too much of TV evangelist and

their showy exaggerations. People are desparate for healings. IMO, it is their

believing that is healing themselves.

> >

> > Linda

> >

> > , " Laura " <lo1o113@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > That is too bad, I would like to think it is real...

> > >

> > > Laura

> > >

> > > , " danceswithcats999 "

<crazycats711@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I agree Pamela,I went to youtube to check him out and these guys did

appear to me as bogus. The oj oj oj sound, is the same as I heard from that Todd

Bentley character. His ministry is much the same, but maybe a little tamer.

LOL! It is not anything like the sound of tongues I have experienced.

> > > >

> > > > Linda

> > > >

> > > > , " pkmorphew "

<pkmorphew@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hocus Pokus.

> > > > > Don't go there.

> > > > > Love & Light, Pamela

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Jeremy "

<jezzwhizz@> wrote:

> > > >

> > >

> >

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I would say you hit the nail on the head, Jeremy. Anyone who has heard real

glossalia would know this guy's is a fake.

 

Linda

 

 

, " Jeremy " <jezzwhizz

wrote:

>

> Thanks for everyone's postings. I always struggled with evangelism, could

never quite put my finger on it, intellectually believing that for some it must

be true descent of the Holy Spirit and for some a form of mass hypnosis. My own

posting, and the replies I have received confirms in a concrete form my

statement. It is a collective mass hypnosis, but for the odd chosen one it is

an experience of the Holy Spirit. It seems clear healing is not from a minister,

or an evangelical meeting, healing is direct from the Soul , or Shakti, or maybe

from Grace, yes Grace and the Soul. Please forgive me if I am wrong, or have

said anything offensive to an individual, I am a student with little or no

wisdom. Bleesings to All...Satchitananda~jeremy

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I think you hit it nail on too Jeremy. It is Grace, God's grace.

To tell if this guy is fake is not for us, only God knows his heart and if he

takes credit for all of this " healing " then he's not real. Simple.

 

Laura

 

, " danceswithcats999 "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

> I would say you hit the nail on the head, Jeremy. Anyone who has heard real

glossalia would know this guy's is a fake.

>

> Linda

>

>

> , " Jeremy " <jezzwhizz@>

wrote:

> >

> > Thanks for everyone's postings. I always struggled with evangelism, could

never quite put my finger on it, intellectually believing that for some it must

be true descent of the Holy Spirit and for some a form of mass hypnosis. My own

posting, and the replies I have received confirms in a concrete form my

statement. It is a collective mass hypnosis, but for the odd chosen one it is

an experience of the Holy Spirit. It seems clear healing is not from a minister,

or an evangelical meeting, healing is direct from the Soul , or Shakti, or maybe

from Grace, yes Grace and the Soul. Please forgive me if I am wrong, or have

said anything offensive to an individual, I am a student with little or no

wisdom. Bleesings to All...Satchitananda~jeremy

>

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I was talking about his glossalia being fake. I don't know if he takes credit

for the healings or not. I just watched a few of his videos. God's grace can

come through anyone I would think.

 

I read one article where this person was comparing him to Dr. Gene Scott, who

was a pentecostal preacher who smoked and drinked and was into betting on horse

racing. He, Gene Scott made fun of people who spoke in tongues. LOL! That is

sort of what it appears to me that John Crowder is doing...making fun of

glossalia with his obvious fake tongue speaking. Anyways, I loved listening to

Dr. Gene Scott, when he spoke/taught it was something with meaning rather than

meaningless chatter. Big difference!

 

Linda

 

, " Laura " <lo1o113

wrote:

>

> I think you hit it nail on too Jeremy. It is Grace, God's grace.

> To tell if this guy is fake is not for us, only God knows his heart and if he

takes credit for all of this " healing " then he's not real. Simple.

>

> Laura

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Oh, I don't even know what glossalia means, LOL! I'll have to google that one.

Your right...no one wants to listen to meaningless chatter.

 

Laura

 

, " danceswithcats999 "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

> I was talking about his glossalia being fake. I don't know if he takes credit

for the healings or not. I just watched a few of his videos. God's grace can

come through anyone I would think.

>

> I read one article where this person was comparing him to Dr. Gene Scott, who

was a pentecostal preacher who smoked and drinked and was into betting on horse

racing. He, Gene Scott made fun of people who spoke in tongues. LOL! That is

sort of what it appears to me that John Crowder is doing...making fun of

glossalia with his obvious fake tongue speaking. Anyways, I loved listening to

Dr. Gene Scott, when he spoke/taught it was something with meaning rather than

meaningless chatter. Big difference!

>

> Linda

>

> , " Laura " <lo1o113@>

wrote:

> >

> > I think you hit it nail on too Jeremy. It is Grace, God's grace.

> > To tell if this guy is fake is not for us, only God knows his heart and if

he takes credit for all of this " healing " then he's not real. Simple.

> >

> > Laura

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Speaking in tongues or glossalia can also be the simple expression of the soul

!. There are different types of it .

 

I think this form of expression can be intense, powerful, profound and serve as

expression of “the feelings.â€

 

When I am deeply connected in praying I can speak on it. I dont know what it

means but know what “it feelsâ€. It is deep communication and so personal

between me and spirit.  

 

 I  believe that it can be powerful healing in this sort of language!  . Do

you believe in the power of the word said?, why not believe in the power of the

feeling said?

 

The mind of course does not know what it is and is not interested to listen

meaningless chatter.

 

The bible referrers to spiritual gifts speaking in tongues. If I am not wrong in

Corinthians.  I interpret this including the capability of speaking in

languages such Italian, French, Spanish etc  as well as other languages like

glossalia which has different variations and in some cases can contain fire

itself.

 

Monica

 

--- El jue, 2/25/10, Laura <lo1o113 escribió:

 

 

De: Laura <lo1o113

Asunto: Re: Sons of Thunder John Crowder

A:

Fecha: jueves, 25 de febrero de 2010, 09:40 am

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, I don't even know what glossalia means, LOL! I'll have to google that one.

Your right...no one wants to listen to meaningless chatter.

 

Laura

 

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " danceswithcats999 "

<crazycats711@ ...> wrote:

>

> I was talking about his glossalia being fake. I don't know if he takes credit

for the healings or not. I just watched a few of his videos. God's grace can

come through anyone I would think.

>

> I read one article where this person was comparing him to Dr. Gene Scott, who

was a pentecostal preacher who smoked and drinked and was into betting on horse

racing. He, Gene Scott made fun of people who spoke in tongues. LOL! That is

sort of what it appears to me that John Crowder is doing...making fun of

glossalia with his obvious fake tongue speaking. Anyways, I loved listening to

Dr. Gene Scott, when he spoke/taught it was something with meaning rather than

meaningless chatter. Big difference!

>

> Linda

>

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " Laura " <lo1o113@>

wrote:

> >

> > I think you hit it nail on too Jeremy. It is Grace, God's grace.

> > To tell if this guy is fake is not for us, only God knows his heart and if

he takes credit for all of this " healing " then he's not real. Simple.

> >

> > Laura

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Monica,

Yes the bible does refer to speaking in toungues as a spiritual gift. It is

also to be done in private, it is a very personal gift. If it is done in

public, ie: church, it would be ideal if there was an interpreter. That person

should speak up to deliver the message for the church. I did witness this a

couple times at one church I attended. Amazing is what I can say about it!

Expression of the soul is a great description.

 

Laura

 

, Monica <monikaeslava

wrote:

>

> Speaking in tongues or glossalia can also be the simple expression of the soul

!. There are different types of it .

>  

> I think this form of expression can be intense, powerful, profound and serve

as expression of “the feelings.â€

>  

> When I am deeply connected in praying I can speak on it. I dont know what it

means but know what “it feelsâ€. It is deep communication and so personal

between me and spirit.  

>  

>  I  believe that it can be powerful healing in this sort of language!  . Do

you believe in the power of the word said?, why not believe in the power of the

feeling said?

>  

> The mind of course does not know what it is and is not interested to listen

meaningless chatter.

>  

> The bible referrers to spiritual gifts speaking in tongues. If I am not wrong

in Corinthians.  I interpret this including the capability of speaking in

languages such Italian, French, Spanish etc  as well as other languages like

glossalia which has different variations and in some cases can contain fire

itself.

>  

> Monica

>

> --- El jue, 2/25/10, Laura <lo1o113 escribió:

>

>

> De: Laura <lo1o113

> Asunto: Re: Sons of Thunder John Crowder

> A:

> Fecha: jueves, 25 de febrero de 2010, 09:40 am

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Oh, I don't even know what glossalia means, LOL! I'll have to google that one.

> Your right...no one wants to listen to meaningless chatter.

>

> Laura

>

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " danceswithcats999 "

<crazycats711@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > I was talking about his glossalia being fake. I don't know if he takes

credit for the healings or not. I just watched a few of his videos. God's grace

can come through anyone I would think.

> >

> > I read one article where this person was comparing him to Dr. Gene Scott,

who was a pentecostal preacher who smoked and drinked and was into betting on

horse racing. He, Gene Scott made fun of people who spoke in tongues. LOL! That

is sort of what it appears to me that John Crowder is doing...making fun of

glossalia with his obvious fake tongue speaking. Anyways, I loved listening to

Dr. Gene Scott, when he spoke/taught it was something with meaning rather than

meaningless chatter. Big difference!

> >

> > Linda

> >

> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " Laura " <lo1o113@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I think you hit it nail on too Jeremy. It is Grace, God's grace.

> > > To tell if this guy is fake is not for us, only God knows his heart and if

he takes credit for all of this " healing " then he's not real. Simple.

> > >

> > > Laura

> >

>

>

>

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