Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 Dear Chrism, I have done a lot of reading and research about 2012 and upcoming possible changes and, from everything I have read, we have the opportunity to control what is going to happen in the future through our thoughts alone. We can envision a positive, peaceful future, with NO "severe change" or we can do the opposite and contribute to a very devastating future like the dangerous fear mongers out there are doing and encouraging us to do as well. As we all should know by now, thoughts are the seed of creation; we can literally create a positive future by envisioning it, and the more people envisioning a positive future, the stronger the thought form becomes and the more permanent and inevitable. I'm talking controlling the forces of nature. If enough people focus their energy, that is possible!! Read the file "Our Ultimate Reality: the future is ours to create" in the Files section. Please!! It seems to me that we, as Kundalini people, have an even greater opportunity than the average person to create a positive future by virtue of our divine connection and strong energy. It seems to me, on first read, that you and Donna are discussing the creation of an insulated community who can get together and 'thrive amidst severe changes'...i.e., use our K energy to sustain ourselves while the rest of the world fights a losing battle??? Or are we going to 'send them loving energy' in hopes that it will help them....if survival is part of their life plan, that is... Wouldn't we be better just where we are....scattered around the world where we can lend a helping hand and our K energy where it is needed most: IN THE TRENCHES??? And if K energy is so strong and intelligent, why would we need to bunch together in order to thrive amidst severe changes? You have never promulgated the need for physical proximity before...we all send healing separately from a distance...and we receive Shaktipat from a distance...we even receive 'sitepat' from our individual computers all over the world. On first read, I am very disappointed in this whole idea. I ask everyone to read the file I just uploaded today. "Severe changes" is just one possible future...we as K people have an opportunity, even a responsibility, to choose a positive future and MAKE My humble opinion, Claudia--- On Sun, 8/10/08, chrism <> wrote: <> Re: Introduction to group - Kundalini Community Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 1:49 AM Donna and I spoke for some length on the phone today. We are searching a physical location for a Kundalini intentional community. A center and a community that can give full support and opportunity for an Awakening process that can be had without danger or secrecy. A self sustaining community for thriving amidst severe change. - blessings all - chrism Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Nick <cabalink@.. .> wrote:Hi DonnaWelcome, tell us more.> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 I accidently hit send before I could finish the last sentence. It should be "MAKE IT HAPPEN." Thanks. Claudia--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Claudia <newtfoodbowl wrote: Claudia <newtfoodbowl Kundalini Community?? CHRISM Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 9:27 AM Dear Chrism, I have done a lot of reading and research about 2012 and upcoming possible changes and, from everything I have read, we have the opportunity to control what is going to happen in the future through our thoughts alone. We can envision a positive, peaceful future, with NO "severe change" or we can do the opposite and contribute to a very devastating future like the dangerous fear mongers out there are doing and encouraging us to do as well. As we all should know by now, thoughts are the seed of creation; we can literally create a positive future by envisioning it, and the more people envisioning a positive future, the stronger the thought form becomes and the more permanent and inevitable. I'm talking controlling the forces of nature. If enough people focus their energy, that is possible!! Read the file "Our Ultimate Reality: the future is ours to create" in the Files section. Please!! It seems to me that we, as Kundalini people, have an even greater opportunity than the average person to create a positive future by virtue of our divine connection and strong energy. It seems to me, on first read, that you and Donna are discussing the creation of an insulated community who can get together and 'thrive amidst severe changes'...i. e., use our K energy to sustain ourselves while the rest of the world fights a losing battle??? Or are we going to 'send them loving energy' in hopes that it will help them....if survival is part of their life plan, that is... Wouldn't we be better just where we are....scattered around the world where we can lend a helping hand and our K energy where it is needed most: IN THE TRENCHES??? And if K energy is so strong and intelligent, why would we need to bunch together in order to thrive amidst severe changes? You have never promulgated the need for physical proximity before...we all send healing separately from a distance...and we receive Shaktipat from a distance...we even receive 'sitepat' from our individual computers all over the world. On first read, I am very disappointed in this whole idea. I ask everyone to read the file I just uploaded today. "Severe changes" is just one possible future...we as K people have an opportunity, even a responsibility, to choose a positive future and MAKE My humble opinion, Claudia--- On Sun, 8/10/08, chrism <@ > wrote: <@ >[Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: Introduction to group - Kundalini CommunityKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Sunday, August 10, 2008, 1:49 AM Donna and I spoke for some length on the phone today. We are searching a physical location for a Kundalini intentional community. A center and a community that can give full support and opportunity for an Awakening process that can be had without danger or secrecy. A self sustaining community for thriving amidst severe change. - blessings all - chrism Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Nick <cabalink@.. .> wrote:Hi DonnaWelcome, tell us more.> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 Hi Claudia Lets do both. blessings and love nick--- On Sun, 10/8/08, Claudia <newtfoodbowl wrote: Claudia <newtfoodbowlRe: Kundalini Community?? CHRISM Received: Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 9:28 AM I accidently hit send before I could finish the last sentence. It should be "MAKE IT HAPPEN." Thanks. Claudia Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with 7- Find out more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 who is the one trying to 'control' nature? isn't everything perfect just the way it is? is wanting to control and change not coming from fear and disdain? lol " in the trenches " where is the war? with who? i think a lot of new age beliefs need to be carefully analyzed here, they sound so silly since everything is a manifestation of Spirit. everything IS spirit, form and formless combined. there is no good, there is no evil. WE are spirit. so why would WE want to control the future unless WE are somehow scared of the future? basically i'm questioning why someone would base the reality of the future on a couple of tall tales and ancient myths. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 People are given the gift of choice. Some have chosen to part of destructive and harsh experiences such as is now occurring in Asian Georgia. These choices will be honored and coming together in a community like this one yet in the physical isn't going to hurt or hinder anyone from using the gifts of the Kundalini to help others change towards a loving expression where ever they are. It is understood that most K active people will be in the trenches and will be part of the experiences of the community they live in. What ever is read about 2012 isn't what I am referring to. I have never given my opinions and thoughts about the 2012 time table as set out by the Mayans (except that some will stay and some will go). And I am not now even assuming that it must be a hurtful or negative event. That we have the ability to effect real and substantial change is true. Yet we cannot by the force of our thoughts and intentions inflict those very same thoughts and intentions on an unknowing public. This isn't respecting their free choice. Options can be given and they can choose to take them or not but there are those in society that do not wish to explore or experience the Kundalini states of consciousness or the blessings given thereof. Or to live in a way of peace and harmony and love. Dualities will be honored in a dualistic existence. There are those in society with karmic attachments to some very harsh experiences. And those ARE beyond even the Kundalini person's options for changing. Having a Kundalini community isn't a bad idea and it isn't in response to fear of destruction or anything other than wanting live and thrive in an environment that is geared towards the experience of the Kundalini. If this is so bad why even have a group on the internet? Following your logic we should be spread out into " the trenches " of the internet and of other communications and inserting our energies there. Not coming together in a group. I feel we can do both. There is absolutely nothing wrong or fearful about a self sustaining community that accepts and nurtures Kundalini in good times or hard times. People can come a stay for a time and then leave to go back to their other community. Nothing is restricting anyone from returning to whence they came or just coming for a visit. I like clean energy and growing food without pesticides or herbicides or any of the toxins that most and I do mean most food plants are grown with. I like using the sun for energy and the wind for energy and small scale hydro projects for energy. I like a consideration towards the environment first opposed to last in the living with and upon the earth. It is healthy and helpful for people to be able to come to a place that can give them solace inside of the Kundalini changes upon the body and within as healthy and life affirming environment as possible. I see no problem here. I like the idea of living in a community of interaction with the safeties of Kundalini in a more recognized and expressed form of that interaction. If there are geopolitical changes that result in harsh restrictions of freedoms or large scale land mass movements, floods, earthquakes storms, and tornados. It is better to rally around the community you are in and if that community happens to be one that is self sustaining and accepting of the Kundalini and nourishing of Kundalini then so much the better in my opinion. - blessings - chrism , Claudia <newtfoodbowl wrote: Dear Chrism, > I have done a lot of reading and research about 2012 and upcoming possible changes and, from everything I have read, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 this was the french chateau from before... off grid, food growing methods, new super foods such as chia seeds... just now im experimenting to take a house off grid, to see if people like the idea, of photovoltic cells and wind turbines..hard going to get co-operation in the uk, they are so slow to adapt... i mean its not as if you suffer greatly porsche is releasing a hybrid at the end of this year... i think the uk and france will remain stable... paula... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 Hi Claudia, Dont you think that humans have always had this ability? I do. Energy follows thought, and what is happening is that it is becoming world wide knowledge that we can change things by changing the way we think. Why would we want to control the forces of nature? I love nature. CV , Claudia <newtfoodbowl wrote: > > > > Dear Chrism, > > I have done a lot of reading and research about 2012 and upcoming possible changes and, from everything I have read, we have the opportunity to control what is going to happen in the future through our thoughts alone. We can envision a positive, peaceful future, with NO " severe change " or we can do the opposite and contribute to a very devastating future like the dangerous fear mongers out there are doing and encouraging us to do as well. As we all should know by now, thoughts are the seed of creation; we can literally create a positive future by envisioning it, and the more people envisioning a positive future, the stronger the thought form becomes and the more permanent and inevitable. > > I'm talking controlling the forces of nature. If enough people focus their energy, that is possible!! Read the file " Our Ultimate Reality: the future is ours to create " in the Files section. Please!! > > It seems to me that we, as Kundalini people, have an even greater opportunity than the average person to create a positive future by virtue of our divine connection and strong energy. It seems to me, on first read, that you and Donna are discussing the creation of an insulated community who can get together and 'thrive amidst severe changes'...i.e., use our K energy to sustain ourselves while the rest of the world fights a losing battle??? Or are we going to 'send them loving energy' in hopes that it will help them....if survival is part of their life plan, that is... > > Wouldn't we be better just where we are....scattered around the world where we can lend a helping hand and our K energy where it is needed most: IN THE TRENCHES??? And if K energy is so strong and intelligent, why would we need to bunch together in order to thrive amidst severe changes? You have never promulgated the need for physical proximity before...we all send healing separately from a distance...and we receive Shaktipat from a distance...we even receive 'sitepat' from our individual computers all over the world. > > On first read, I am very disappointed in this whole idea. > > I ask everyone to read the file I just uploaded today. " Severe changes " is just one possible future...we as K people have an opportunity, even a responsibility, to choose a positive future and MAKE > > My humble opinion, > Claudia > > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, chrism <> wrote: > > <> > Re: Introduction to group - Kundalini Community > > Sunday, August 10, 2008, 1:49 AM Donna and I spoke for some length on the phone today. We are searching > a physical location for a Kundalini intentional community. A center > and a community that can give full support and opportunity for an > Awakening process that can be had without danger or secrecy. A self > sustaining community for thriving amidst severe change. - blessings > all - chrism > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Nick > <cabalink@ .> wrote: > Hi Donna > Welcome, tell us more. > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 I forgot to add some more to my last post. I feel that our spirit and soul is more important than the physical. The earth will eventually die anyway, everything in the third dimension will. But our spirit is eternal. That is the knowledge that sets us free. I used to live at a community in the north of Scotland called Findhorn. It is an amazing place that started with one caravan in the sands of the beach. Now it is a huge place, with eco housing, endorsed by the UN, and many great works come out of there. They prove without a doubt that energy follows thought. www.findhorn.org CV , Claudia <newtfoodbowl wrote: > > > > Dear Chrism, > > I have done a lot of reading and research about 2012 and upcoming possible changes and, from everything I have read, we have the opportunity to control what is going to happen in the future through our thoughts alone. We can envision a positive, peaceful future, with NO " severe change " or we can do the opposite and contribute to a very devastating future like the dangerous fear mongers out there are doing and encouraging us to do as well. As we all should know by now, thoughts are the seed of creation; we can literally create a positive future by envisioning it, and the more people envisioning a positive future, the stronger the thought form becomes and the more permanent and inevitable. > > I'm talking controlling the forces of nature. If enough people focus their energy, that is possible!! Read the file " Our Ultimate Reality: the future is ours to create " in the Files section. Please!! > > It seems to me that we, as Kundalini people, have an even greater opportunity than the average person to create a positive future by virtue of our divine connection and strong energy. It seems to me, on first read, that you and Donna are discussing the creation of an insulated community who can get together and 'thrive amidst severe changes'...i.e., use our K energy to sustain ourselves while the rest of the world fights a losing battle??? Or are we going to 'send them loving energy' in hopes that it will help them....if survival is part of their life plan, that is... > > Wouldn't we be better just where we are....scattered around the world where we can lend a helping hand and our K energy where it is needed most: IN THE TRENCHES??? And if K energy is so strong and intelligent, why would we need to bunch together in order to thrive amidst severe changes? You have never promulgated the need for physical proximity before...we all send healing separately from a distance...and we receive Shaktipat from a distance...we even receive 'sitepat' from our individual computers all over the world. > > On first read, I am very disappointed in this whole idea. > > I ask everyone to read the file I just uploaded today. " Severe changes " is just one possible future...we as K people have an opportunity, even a responsibility, to choose a positive future and MAKE > > My humble opinion, > Claudia > > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, chrism <> wrote: > > <> > Re: Introduction to group - Kundalini Community > > Sunday, August 10, 2008, 1:49 AM Donna and I spoke for some length on the phone today. We are searching > a physical location for a Kundalini intentional community. A center > and a community that can give full support and opportunity for an > Awakening process that can be had without danger or secrecy. A self > sustaining community for thriving amidst severe change. - blessings > all - chrism > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Nick > <cabalink@ .> wrote: > Hi Donna > Welcome, tell us more. > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 This is possibly a response to the " survival needs " as have been outlined here on the group. I do feel that there will be some events coming " before " 2012 and this is what I have stated. I feel it is a good idea to: " have that which you dont need rather than need that which what you dont have " That would include " high ground " I do understand about earth changes and some geologic conditions that can have detrimental effects to lowlying areas of which I also live in. (the latest huge ice shelf falling into the Atalntic for example: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/11/10287/ http://nsidc.org/sotc/iceshelves.html Given the opportunity I myself would move to higher ground but this is a response to earth changes before the 2012 date not because of it. And it is from practicality not fear. I do support what Claudia writes in regards to Kundalini people taking the lead in helping and asserting calmess in the midst of panic. We can walk our talk in the good times as well as the harder times. - blessings all - chrism Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 > This is possibly a response to the " survival needs " as have been > outlined here on the group. I do feel that there will be some events > coming " before " 2012 and this is what I have stated. I feel it is a > good idea to: > > " have that which you dont need rather than need that which what you > dont have " The thing to think about here, at first you need to just survive. Cover your butt. Water and shelter are first, food next. Think about this, the system we are used to having access to goes down. Help, if it exists is going to take time to get to you. FEMA is a joke. You have to start with yourself, close family, there is no way you can go on to help the others unless you are secure yourself. By securing your own future, you secure the future of many, many others.Help is not going to come from without, it will come from within. Peace Don Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 Hi CV, I love nature too. But if some storm was heading your way and about to destroy what you work hard for all your life, would you not like to have the power to dispell it? It may just be co-incidences, but I have put out the intent several times and cause tornado clouds to go back up into the sky, just in the nick of time. A lot of other cloud related experiences as well. I have no way to prove that my intent did this, but Jesus had the ability to control storms, too. He said that we could do what he did and even greater things. When I was a kid I often laid in the grass for hours and practice making the clouds to form into whatever shape I wanted them to. After listening to C2C one night, I found I am not the only one with the ability to do this. It's funny, many of my family members have witness me do all that, some where there on several of the occassion, but they didn't believe it was me. Every time they said it was a co-incidence. Hehe! Who knows, maybe it was. Linda , " celticvoice6 " <celticvoice6 wrote: > > Hi Claudia, > Dont you think that humans have always had this ability? I do. > Energy follows thought, and what is happening is that it is becoming > world wide knowledge that we can change things by changing the way we > think. > Why would we want to control the forces of nature? I love nature. > CV > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 Hi Linda, The Druids used to use this power too, esp forming clouds of mist to hide themselves. Oh yes, I do think that to have this ability is wonderful. When I read the words " controlling nature " it sounded sort of un natural, but I see what you are saying! The more we raise our awareness away from fear,and more toward trust and love, the less chance there is of being in danger. Edgar Cayce had some interesting insights on this. It also depends on what contracts we made for our lives, before we even incarnated. CV , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > Hi CV, I love nature too. But if some storm was heading your way and > about to destroy what you work hard for all your life, would you not > like to have the power to dispell it? It may just be co- incidences, > but I have put out the intent several times and cause tornado clouds to > go back up into the sky, just in the nick of time. A lot of other cloud > related experiences as well. I have no way to prove that my intent did > this, but Jesus had the ability to control storms, too. He said that we > could do what he did and even greater things. When I was a kid I often > laid in the grass for hours and practice making the clouds to form into > whatever shape I wanted them to. After listening to C2C one night, I > found I am not the only one with the ability to do this. It's funny, > many of my family members have witness me do all that, some where there > on several of the occassion, but they didn't believe it was me. Every > time they said it was a co-incidence. Hehe! Who knows, maybe it was. > > Linda > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " celticvoice6 " > <celticvoice6@> wrote: > > > > Hi Claudia, > > Dont you think that humans have always had this ability? I do. > > Energy follows thought, and what is happening is that it is becoming > > world wide knowledge that we can change things by changing the way we > > think. > > Why would we want to control the forces of nature? I love nature. > > CV > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 The way I look at it is this, some destruction has to happen as we have created a system outside of nature and it is about to cease as we enter a new era, change is inevitable and welcome , yes we can reduce the negative effects but if the world needs to shift poles and quake her land then we have to allow it to happen. It's not really scary as i know God will look after as many as possible during this time. Kundalini is savage in her transformation, as is nature, its up to us individually how we react to it, but be sure, destruction needs to happen before the creation of a new era/society can occur. And lets face it we need some change around here :-)) In the bible I think it mentions a " time of grinding and gnashing of teeth " ? Linda can help us out I'm sure with the quote. If anyone makes a community in a country I can get a visa to I am definitely coming to live there as it is also my dream to live in this new eco friendly way. It is our gift to the Earth. love e x x x ________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at http://uk.docs./ymail/new.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 @@@@ " time of grinding and gnashing of teeth " @@@@ I see this happening anytime there is disharmony in the land anywhere.... on a small or large scale. That is just another way of saying people are under stress. I would say there is quite a bit of it going on these days. The way I see it Elektra, is that we have been giving the power to manifest our future. Is it going to be a manifestation of disaster or are we going use our God given powers to create a smooth evolution this time around? Are we going to just set back and let nature take it's course like we've done in the pass and then have to start all over agian from a small remenant that is left of us? Going by the bible and Robert Monroe, we make it this time. Under ground cities have been built in various place all over the world. Who the " powers that be " will allow to be saved besides themselves and their families if there is a pole shift, mostly likely would not be people like us with power. I would say they would be more interested in the less informed groups, ones that they can control and used to reconstruct after it's over. But of course those who do not make it will eventually reincarnate back, right. I have been listening to some youtube videos lately of various people's experiences with ET contact. A few of these have been told by the ET's that if we don't make it this time the earth will rid herself of us and will evolve without without us. There will be some of us transformed to 4D and evolve with her. That is what we are working one with K isn't it, transformation? The 3D humans who survive the changes would then need the ET's help in transporting what is left of them to another 3D planet that they could adapt to. I don't know what would happen to the " powers that be " in their underground cities. One really doesn't know whom or what to believe in all this...just a lot of speculations, the way I see it. I am going to put my faith in what the bible says and believe that we are going to make it this time around. I feel I am being lead by Spirit to become an awakened, transformed being. My hope is that I make it. I don't really see any system as being created outside of nature. I see technology as being just as much of God as anything else we have co-created...we just haven't worked all the kinks out yet or made the right use of the knowledge. That is my thoughts. Linda -- Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote: > > The way I look at it is this, some destruction has to happen as we have created a system outside of nature and it is about to cease as we enter a new era, change is inevitable and welcome , yes we can reduce the negative effects but if the world needs to shift poles and quake her land then we have to allow it to happen. It's not really scary as i know God will look after as many as possible during this time. > Kundalini is savage in her transformation, as is nature, its up to us individually how we react to it, but be sure, destruction needs to happen before the creation of a new era/society can occur. And lets face it we need some change around here :-)) > > In the bible I think it mentions a " time of grinding and gnashing of teeth " ? Linda can help us out I'm sure with the quote. > > If anyone makes a community in a country I can get a visa to I am definitely coming to live there as it is also my dream to live in this new eco friendly way. It is our gift to the Earth. > > love e x x x > > > ________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at http://uk.docs./ymail/new.html > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 Dear Chrism, >There is absolutely nothing wrong or fearful about a self sustaining community that accepts and nurtures Kundalini in good times or hard times. People can come a stay for a time and then leave to go back to their other community. Nothing is restricting anyone from returning to whence they came or just coming for a visit.< This sounds like a great idea and I also know of a Gnostic community that is very successfully doing the same thing and have an invitation and will meet them one day. Kind regards...Angelina , " chrism " <> wrote: > > People are given the gift of choice. > > Some have chosen to part of destructive and harsh experiences such > as is now occurring in Asian Georgia. These choices will be honored > and coming together in a community like this one yet in the physical > isn't going to hurt or hinder anyone from using the gifts of the > Kundalini to help others change towards a loving expression where > ever they are. It is understood that most K active people will be in > the trenches and will be part of the experiences of the community > they live in. > > What ever is read about 2012 isn't what I am referring to. I have > never given my opinions and thoughts about the 2012 time table as > set out by the Mayans (except that some will stay and some will go). > And I am not now even assuming that it must be a hurtful or negative > event. > > That we have the ability to effect real and substantial change is > true. Yet we cannot by the force of our thoughts and intentions > inflict those very same thoughts and intentions on an unknowing > public. This isn't respecting their free choice. Options can be > given and they can choose to take them or not but there are those in > society that do not wish to explore or experience the Kundalini > states of consciousness or the blessings given thereof. Or to live > in a way of peace and harmony and love. Dualities will be honored in > a dualistic existence. There are those in society with karmic > attachments to some very harsh experiences. And those ARE beyond > even the Kundalini person's options for changing. > > Having a Kundalini community isn't a bad idea and it isn't in > response to fear of destruction or anything other than wanting live > and thrive in an environment that is geared towards the experience > of the Kundalini. If this is so bad why even have a group on the > internet? Following your logic we should be spread out into " the > trenches " of the internet and of other communications and inserting > our energies there. Not coming together in a group. I feel we can do > both. > > There is absolutely nothing wrong or fearful about a self sustaining > community that accepts and nurtures Kundalini in good times or hard > times. People can come a stay for a time and then leave to go back > to their other community. Nothing is restricting anyone from > returning to whence they came or just coming for a visit. > > I like clean energy and growing food without pesticides or > herbicides or any of the toxins that most and I do mean most food > plants are grown with. I like using the sun for energy and the wind > for energy and small scale hydro projects for energy. > > I like a consideration towards the environment first opposed to last > in the living with and upon the earth. It is healthy and helpful for > people to be able to come to a place that can give them solace > inside of the Kundalini changes upon the body and within as healthy > and life affirming environment as possible. I see no problem here. > > I like the idea of living in a community of interaction with the > safeties of Kundalini in a more recognized and expressed form of > that interaction. > > If there are geopolitical changes that result in harsh restrictions > of freedoms or large scale land mass movements, floods, earthquakes > storms, and tornados. It is better to rally around the community you > are in and if that community happens to be one that is self > sustaining and accepting of the Kundalini and nourishing of > Kundalini then so much the better in my opinion. - blessings - > chrism > > > , Claudia > <newtfoodbowl@> wrote: > Dear Chrism, > > I have done a lot of reading and research about 2012 and upcoming > possible changes and, from everything I have read, > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 " The way I look at it is this, some destruction has to happen as we have created a system outside of nature and it is about to cease as we enter a new era, change is inevitable and welcome. " I think the end as we see it will be much more mundane. Gas doesn't arrive at the gas station, food doesn't arrive at the grocery store. Martial law will be quick and brutal. The masses will have to be controlled. Travel, food, resources, will all be controlled. In the spirit of this group, email me offlist for lat and long for here. Use it as a backup plan. This can be a harsh climate, and I fully expect to see many people moving south. Into the belly of the beast. If you know what you are doing its not bad at all. There are a number of us here, with plans in place to block roads etc. The lat and long is the key to getting past that. Food could be a problem if a lot show up, but we will deal with that. All the other resources we could need are here and already in place. Thats why I ask you to use it as your backup, too many and we may weigh the whole thing down. But if you have no where else to turn. Come here and be welcome. Peace Don Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 12, 2008 That is extremely generous of you Don. I am in the East, and currently living alone, with joint custody of my daughter, so I feel a bit vulnerable. I would be very interested. I consider myself a strong person, but when it comes to this kind of thing, hmmm not so much. I guess I need to toughen up a bit! lol I will contact you off list! Thank You. Kind regards, Sharon --- On Tue, 8/12/08, merlin6949 <merlin wrote: merlin6949 <merlin Re: Kundalini Community?? CHRISM Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 12:09 AM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 12, 2008 merlin my friend , we will survive... the trick to it is no fear.... i have seen a video my friend in amsterdam has, it was loads and loads of plastic coffins by fema , i have seen maps that are being re-drawn, as far as i've seen they want to make america the new jerusalem... look at the book the serpents of wisdom, mark amaru pinkham its a templar book...(got exercises to awaken kundalini in it too.. ) i think everything is set to hit the usa first (take my opinion or leave it , im trying to help:) i am hooking up a 24 bed , stone couryard building , with wind turbines (ordered yesterday)and solar if needed (not sunny here but windy) , we have secondary businesses i haven't mentioned yet , one is a food warehouse , and 2 resturants, .... i have a lot of land , i found a product called grancrete it can make a spray concrete home dry in one day , 10x stronger than concrete.. scotlands water is like mineral water.. if and when the poo hits the fan , folks i have space in the uk...welcome... paula Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 12, 2008 and now julie's TWIST to the plot. paula has voiced my words, "No fear"............and for some reason I don't feel a strong urge to just "survive". If things indeed get as bad as a food shortage, there will be no place to run, hide, or provide. I was very close to Katrina when New Orleans was hit; and the looting was phenomenal. In a case of disaster, when food shortage is a part of the picture, people will do incredible horrific things. Again, I just have no fear of dying, and do not want to survive a holocaust of any type. Nor do I wish to live in a society where scavenging for food is necessary for survival. just me and my twist, paula....--- On Tue, 8/12/08, alayafire <ari.reza wrote: alayafire <ari.reza Re: Kundalini Community?? CHRISM Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 12:24 PM merlin my friend , we will survive... the trick to it is no fear....i have seen a video my friend in amsterdam has, it was loads and loads of plastic coffins by fema , i have seen maps that are being re-drawn,as far as i've seen they want to make america the new jerusalem...look at the book the serpents of wisdom, mark amaru pinkhamits a templar book...(got exercises to awaken kundalini in it too.. )i think everything is set to hit the usa first (take my opinion or leave it , im trying to help:) i am hooking up a 24 bed , stone couryard building , with wind turbines (ordered yesterday)and solar if needed (not sunny here but windy) , we have secondary businesses i haven't mentioned yet , one is a food warehouse , and 2 resturants,... i have a lot of land , i found a product called grancrete it can make a spray concrete home dry in one day , 10x stronger than concrete.. scotlands water is like mineral water..if and when the poo hits the fan , folks i have space in the uk...welcome. ..paula Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 12, 2008 It is indeed hurtful to such as you posted on . I was on the gulf coast when katrina hit MS and the day after I was in the field helping to clean up and rebuild . There was so much emotions and people looting not just for food but for any valuable materials objects . There was a casino that landed on Highway 90 half destroyed and people were risking their lives to go in and loot items such as televisions and computers . It was a depressing time for me then . > and now julie's TWIST to the plot. paula has voiced my words, " No fear " ............and for some reason I don't feel a strong urge to just " survive " . If things indeed get as bad as a food shortage, there will be no place to run, hide, or provide. I was very close to Katrina when New Orleans was hit; and the looting was phenomenal. In a case of disaster, when food shortage is a part of the picture, people will do incredible horrific things. Again, I just have no fear of dying, and do not want to survive a holocaust of any type. Nor do I wish to live in a society where scavenging for food is necessary for survival. just me and my twist, paula.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 12, 2008 julie my friend no need to scavenge , i have many wasted acres, all doing nothing, a waste against the god , often felt guilt over it..know how to make plants grow huge with ormus, my cousin escaped new orleans! she left everything, just went..she was living there with her second husband...im twisting your plot...you were led to kundalini , something wants and is willing you to survive...its a game and live or die i know makes no difference , but it takes a master to shine his light in the darkness, come on lets do it... paula > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 12, 2008 big smile, love, and hugs, paula, there are also many stories of heroism, courage, and love in time of crisis.........julie--- On Tue, 8/12/08, alayafire <ari.reza wrote: alayafire <ari.reza Re: Kundalini Community?? CHRISM Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 12:51 PM julie my friend no need to scavenge , i have many wasted acres, all doing nothing, a waste against the god , often felt guilt over it..know how to make plants grow huge with ormus,my cousin escaped new orleans! she left everything, just went..she was living there with her second husband...im twisting your plot...you were led to kundalini , something wants and is willing you to survive...its a game and live or die i know makes no difference , but it takes a master to shine his light in the darkness, come on lets do it...paula> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 12, 2008 Many thanks too you Paula as well for your gracious invitation. Good information as well. Make sure you protect the birds from the wind turbines. - blessings Paula. - chrism , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > merlin my friend , > we will survive... > the trick to it is no fear.... > > i have seen a video my friend in amsterdam has, it was loads and > loads of plastic coffins by fema , i have seen maps that are being > re-drawn, > > as far as i've seen they want to make america the new jerusalem... > look at the book the serpents of wisdom, mark amaru pinkham > its a templar book...(got exercises to awaken kundalini in it > too.. ) > > i think everything is set to hit the usa first (take my opinion or > leave it , im trying to help:) i am hooking up a 24 bed , stone > couryard building , with wind turbines (ordered yesterday)and solar > if needed (not sunny here but windy) , we have secondary businesses > i haven't mentioned yet , one is a food warehouse , and 2 resturants, > ... i have a lot of land , i found a product called grancrete it can > make a spray concrete home dry in one day , 10x stronger than > concrete.. scotlands water is like mineral water.. > > if and when the poo hits the fan , folks i have space in the > uk...welcome... > > > paula > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 12, 2008 thanks chrism didnt think of that, like your details paula Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 12, 2008 I pretty much agree Julie, and that's why I'm as far along as I am. Being as old as I am I don't expect to see all of it. Like you I have no fear about it at all. I am anxious, however, for my kids and their loved ones, and what kind of life my grandkid is going to have. Maybe, just maybe I can leave them an edge. Truth is, we already live in a world where scavenging for food is necessary for survival for large numbers of people. Oh chuckle, for those of you who emailed me offlist hang on, just getting home and it looks like I have quite a few to get off. Peace Don > and now julie's TWIST to the plot. paula has voiced my words, " No > fear " ............and for some reason I don't feel a strong urge to just > " survive " . If things indeed get as bad as a food shortage, there will be > no place to run, hide, or provide. I was very close to Katrina when New > Orleans was hit; and the looting was phenomenal. In a case of disaster, > when food shortage is a part of the picture, people will do incredible > horrific things. Again, I just have no fear of dying, and do not want to > survive a holocaust of any type. Nor do I wish to live in a society where > scavenging for food is necessary for survival. just me and my twist, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
