Guest guest Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Hello Someone recently asked me if I feel I have lost anything in my journey in life with the K that I don't think will ever come back. This struck me as such a poignant, pertinent and important question that I decided to present it to the group. Bret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Good question. Personally, I feel I have gained a lot from the K. The only thing I lost is the fear of my own death. Sel , Bret Arenson <bretarenson wrote: > > Hello > > Someone recently asked me if I feel I have lost anything in my > journey in life with the K that I don't think will ever come back. > This struck me as such a poignant, pertinent and important question > that I decided to present it to the group. > > Bret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 You guys really make me want to hurry the process.... I know... patience, patience... :-) > " selena230 " <selena230 > > > Re: Have you lost anything on your >journey? >Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:00:46 -0000 > >Good question. Personally, I feel I have gained a lot from the K. The >only thing I lost is the fear of my own death. > >Sel > > , Bret Arenson ><bretarenson wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > Someone recently asked me if I feel I have lost anything in my > > journey in life with the K that I don't think will ever come back. > > This struck me as such a poignant, pertinent and important question > > that I decided to present it to the group. > > > > Bret > > > > _______________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035 & url=%2fst.jsp & tm=y & search=mor\ tgage_text_links_88_h27f6 & disc=y & vers=743 & s=4056 & p=5117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Interesting question indeed. I have lost a sort of innocence with which I viewed the physical world..... as in reveling in the birds and sunshine, being dazzled by the ocean, etc, and think of those times with a smile. It was like 2 dimensional seeing as opposed to 4th dimensional and I am not at all unhappy that things are different. And still go into bliss with the physical world all the time. Actually it is quite touching to look back on my enjoyment of what and how I saw then, sort of like remembering how one saw/experienced things as a child. I was once about to take a trip overseas and was driving in a favorite part of the countryside and got the message that you will never see this again. I wondered if I would die on this trip (I was going to a place that was in very strong political unrest) but what happened is that I had some large revelations and " saw " differently when I returned. Thanks for putting this question out. Sherri -- The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert Einstein -------------- Original message -------------- Bret Arenson <bretarenson Hello Someone recently asked me if I feel I have lost anything in my journey in life with the K that I don't think will ever come back. This struck me as such a poignant, pertinent and important question that I decided to present it to the group. Bret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 In hindsight, there is one more thing I lost: I can't get myself to take certain things as seriously as I did before. Stuff like career, success, material possessions, etc. have lost much of their appeal now. Is this really a loss? Sel , " Paul F " <paulffff wrote: > > You guys really make me want to hurry the process.... I know... patience, > patience... :-) > > > > " selena230 " <selena230 > > > > > > Re: Have you lost anything on your > >journey? > >Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:00:46 -0000 > > > >Good question. Personally, I feel I have gained a lot from the K. The > >only thing I lost is the fear of my own death. > > > >Sel > > > > , Bret Arenson > ><bretarenson@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > Someone recently asked me if I feel I have lost anything in my > > > journey in life with the K that I don't think will ever come back. > > > This struck me as such a poignant, pertinent and important question > > > that I decided to present it to the group. > > > > > > Bret > > > > > > > > > _______________ > Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. > Intro*Terms > https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035 & url=%2fst.jsp & tm=y & search=mor\ tgage_text_links_88_h27f6 & disc=y & vers=743 & s=4056 & p=5117 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 If feels like I'm just starting out in my journey with Shakti, yet I feel so much dropping away. Would that be considered " lost " ? Like leaves falling off a tree, are they lost? Most of all I feel the sense of limitations disappearing...like ANYTHING can happen. And its soooo exciting. Love, dhyana > > >--- In > , Bret > Arenson > > ><bretarenson@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > Someone recently asked me if I feel I have > lost anything in my > > > > journey in life with the K that I don't think > will ever come back. > > > > This struck me as such a poignant, pertinent > and important question > > > > that I decided to present it to the group. > > > > > > > > Bret > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance > $150,000 loan for $579 a > month. > > Intro*Terms > > > https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035 & url=%2fst.jsp & tm=y & search=mor\ tgage_text_links_88_h27f6 & disc=y & vers=743 & s=4056 & p=5117 > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Maybe I should not write here, because I have done som extremely bad thing and live now a completely ruined life, that I fear never can be good again, in any incarnation. But now then the question is asked, I will present my miserable situation. I have lost my feeling-organs to experience the nature: sensetive wafts, the birds flapping, the clarity of the stars. And books and tv about this is nothing for me, mostly irritating. My dear music is gone and is also irrating to me, the same with all esthetic. The sexuality is completely gone, and my body is in a big chaos, the same with the seeing bodies to other people. I`m don`t longing to touch or be touched. Longings, dreams, memories and moods is disapeared. When I don`t can feel the moods in the nature, so I cannot feel moods from memories. The energy goes upwards, burn the skill of sensing, I lose my grounding and I`` m feeling me filled with pollution The social life is mostly the family, nothing more I don`t have the power to think. I was earlier good at mathematic and tried to think so life could fill me. Church holiday: My heart cannot live with the stories and in christmas I was feeling me quite evil. Martinus, my child , is very difficult to meet, his cheerfulness is irritating instead of inspirating I have not much energy left, it is difficult to go out for a walk. My " etherbody don`t want to go " and it is very difficult for me when the nature is a stranger . I`m never alert , only depressive The creativity is gone I have no interest in the world around me. I don`t read newspaper and I don`t see tv. I cannot connect with the stuff. It is scaring me very much when I now see what I have done, I have lost my past, the now and the future I use time in front of the PC, try to rest, and put things in my mouth. I have big difficulties to getting things to do, I`m lost in apathy Many people will call it a depression, but unfortunately it is much,much more than that . I feel that this is big damages that maybe never in eternity can be better, only worse. Regards, Gunnar , Bret Arenson <bretarenson wrote: > > Hello > > Someone recently asked me if I feel I have lost anything in my > journey in life with the K that I don't think will ever come back. > This struck me as such a poignant, pertinent and important question > that I decided to present it to the group. > > Bret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Gunnar,this sounds like a stage you are going through.When did K start ? Love,Nicole Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " gunnar_tungland " <gunnar-t wrote: > > Maybe I should not write here, because I have done som extremely bad > thing and live now a completely ruined life, > that I fear never can be good again, in any incarnation. But now then > the question is asked, I will present my miserable situation. > > I have lost my feeling-organs to experience the nature: sensetive > wafts, the birds flapping, the clarity of the stars. And books and tv > about this is nothing for me, mostly irritating. > My dear music is gone and is also irrating to me, the same with all > esthetic. > The sexuality is completely gone, and my body is in a big chaos, the > same with the seeing bodies to other people. > I`m don`t longing to touch or be touched. > Longings, dreams, memories and moods is disapeared. When I don`t can > feel the moods in the nature, so I cannot feel moods from memories. > The energy goes upwards, burn the skill of sensing, I lose my > grounding and I`` m feeling me filled with pollution > The social life is mostly the family, nothing more > I don`t have the power to think. I was earlier good at mathematic and > tried to think so life could fill me. > Church holiday: My heart cannot live with the stories and in > christmas I was feeling me quite evil. > Martinus, my child , is very difficult to meet, his cheerfulness is > irritating instead of inspirating > I have not much energy left, it is difficult to go out for a walk. My > " etherbody don`t want to go " and it is very difficult for me when the > nature is a stranger . > I`m never alert , only depressive > The creativity is gone > I have no interest in the world around me. I don`t read newspaper and > I don`t see tv. I cannot connect with the stuff. > It is scaring me very much when I now see what I have done, I have > lost my past, the now and the future > I use time in front of the PC, try to rest, and put things in my > mouth. > I have big difficulties to getting things to do, I`m lost in apathy > > Many people will call it a depression, but unfortunately it is > much,much more than that . > I feel that this is big damages that maybe never in eternity can be > better, only worse. > > Regards, Gunnar , Bret Arenson > <bretarenson@> wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > Someone recently asked me if I feel I have lost anything in my > > journey in life with the K that I don't think will ever come back. > > This struck me as such a poignant, pertinent and important > question > > that I decided to present it to the group. > > > > Bret > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Hello Nicole It started in my feet oct.2000, but I(tried to) ignored it to feb. 2003 after 4 massage-treatments.Then the energy began to rise, but much outside the body. Regards, Gunnar , " ntaroiu " <lsirca wrote: > > Gunnar,this sounds like a stage you are going through.When did K > start ? > > Love,Nicole > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " gunnar_tungland " <gunnar-t@> wrote: > > > > Maybe I should not write here, because I have done som extremely > bad > > thing and live now a completely ruined life, > > that I fear never can be good again, in any incarnation. But now > then > > the question is asked, I will present my miserable situation. > > > > I have lost my feeling-organs to experience the nature: sensetive > > wafts, the birds flapping, the clarity of the stars. And books and > tv > > about this is nothing for me, mostly irritating. > > My dear music is gone and is also irrating to me, the same with > all > > esthetic. > > The sexuality is completely gone, and my body is in a big chaos, > the > > same with the seeing bodies to other people. > > I`m don`t longing to touch or be touched. > > Longings, dreams, memories and moods is disapeared. When I don`t > can > > feel the moods in the nature, so I cannot feel moods from memories. > > The energy goes upwards, burn the skill of sensing, I lose my > > grounding and I`` m feeling me filled with pollution > > The social life is mostly the family, nothing more > > I don`t have the power to think. I was earlier good at mathematic > and > > tried to think so life could fill me. > > Church holiday: My heart cannot live with the stories and in > > christmas I was feeling me quite evil. > > Martinus, my child , is very difficult to meet, his cheerfulness > is > > irritating instead of inspirating > > I have not much energy left, it is difficult to go out for a walk. > My > > " etherbody don`t want to go " and it is very difficult for me when > the > > nature is a stranger . > > I`m never alert , only depressive > > The creativity is gone > > I have no interest in the world around me. I don`t read newspaper > and > > I don`t see tv. I cannot connect with the stuff. > > It is scaring me very much when I now see what I have done, I have > > lost my past, the now and the future > > I use time in front of the PC, try to rest, and put things in my > > mouth. > > I have big difficulties to getting things to do, I`m lost in apathy > > > > Many people will call it a depression, but unfortunately it is > > much,much more than that . > > I feel that this is big damages that maybe never in eternity can > be > > better, only worse. > > > > Regards, Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Bret Arenson > > <bretarenson@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > Someone recently asked me if I feel I have lost anything in my > > > journey in life with the K that I don't think will ever come > back. > > > This struck me as such a poignant, pertinent and important > > question > > > that I decided to present it to the group. > > > > > > Bret > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Is it over Gunnar?I am asking because I read in a book that after the process finishes you feel like you do not like anything and you are depressed and something just like you said.Kind of like dead but not your body.If you want the name and author of the book let me know. love,Nicole Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " gunnar_tungland " <gunnar-t wrote: > > Hello Nicole > > It started in my feet oct.2000, but I(tried to) ignored it to feb. > 2003 > after 4 massage-treatments.Then the energy began to rise, but much > outside the body. > > Regards, Gunnar > > > , > " ntaroiu " <lsirca@> wrote: > > > > Gunnar,this sounds like a stage you are going through.When did K > > start ? > > > > Love,Nicole > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > > 1 , " gunnar_tungland " <gunnar-t@> wrote: > > > > > > Maybe I should not write here, because I have done som extremely > > bad > > > thing and live now a completely ruined life, > > > that I fear never can be good again, in any incarnation. But now > > then > > > the question is asked, I will present my miserable situation. > > > > > > I have lost my feeling-organs to experience the nature: sensetive > > > wafts, the birds flapping, the clarity of the stars. And books > and > > tv > > > about this is nothing for me, mostly irritating. > > > My dear music is gone and is also irrating to me, the same with > > all > > > esthetic. > > > The sexuality is completely gone, and my body is in a big chaos, > > the > > > same with the seeing bodies to other people. > > > I`m don`t longing to touch or be touched. > > > Longings, dreams, memories and moods is disapeared. When I don`t > > can > > > feel the moods in the nature, so I cannot feel moods from > memories. > > > The energy goes upwards, burn the skill of sensing, I lose my > > > grounding and I`` m feeling me filled with pollution > > > The social life is mostly the family, nothing more > > > I don`t have the power to think. I was earlier good at mathematic > > and > > > tried to think so life could fill me. > > > Church holiday: My heart cannot live with the stories and in > > > christmas I was feeling me quite evil. > > > Martinus, my child , is very difficult to meet, his cheerfulness > > is > > > irritating instead of inspirating > > > I have not much energy left, it is difficult to go out for a > walk. > > My > > > " etherbody don`t want to go " and it is very difficult for me when > > the > > > nature is a stranger . > > > I`m never alert , only depressive > > > The creativity is gone > > > I have no interest in the world around me. I don`t read newspaper > > and > > > I don`t see tv. I cannot connect with the stuff. > > > It is scaring me very much when I now see what I have done, I > have > > > lost my past, the now and the future > > > I use time in front of the PC, try to rest, and put things in my > > > mouth. > > > I have big difficulties to getting things to do, I`m lost in > apathy > > > > > > Many people will call it a depression, but unfortunately it is > > > much,much more than that . > > > I feel that this is big damages that maybe never in eternity can > > be > > > better, only worse. > > > > > > Regards, Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Bret > Arenson > > > <bretarenson@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > Someone recently asked me if I feel I have lost anything in my > > > > journey in life with the K that I don't think will ever come > > back. > > > > This struck me as such a poignant, pertinent and important > > > question > > > > that I decided to present it to the group. > > > > > > > > Bret > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I feel the same way as you Dhyana, the sense of limitations disappearing. The ability to talk about things I wasn't able to talk about for a long time, the sense of being able to recognize and acknowledge things and accept them as they are, forgive and forget! The ability to move on with my life after the passing of my dad recently and the passing of my mom 16 years ago. I have more confidence in myself and in my abilities, the ability to recognize and observe what is around me and enjoy it, adapt to and appreciate nature more. What I have lost is my old way of thinking, my old self of being limited. Love, Katherine , novalees <Novalees wrote: > > If feels like I'm just starting out in my journey with > Shakti, yet I feel so much dropping away. Would that > be considered " lost " ? Like leaves falling off a tree, > are they lost? Most of all I feel the sense of > limitations disappearing...like ANYTHING can happen. > And its soooo exciting. Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > >--- In > > , Bret > > Arenson > > > ><bretarenson@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > > > Someone recently asked me if I feel I have > > lost anything in my > > > > > journey in life with the K that I don't think > > will ever come back. > > > > > This struck me as such a poignant, pertinent > > and important question > > > > > that I decided to present it to the group. > > > > > > > > > > Bret > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance > > $150,000 loan for $579 a > > month. > > > Intro*Terms > > > > > > https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035 & url=% 2fst.jsp & tm=y & search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6 & disc=y & vers=743 & s=40 56 & p=5117 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 I have lost many things, but all good. I've lost many fears, and some of my free time. I've lost my infertility. I've lost interest in the mundane world also, work, mortgage etc. I have also lost my easy life of being able to do the things that most humans love such as drinking, drugs and rock and roll. But I always knew (before the K) that if I wanted to ascend I would have to lose everything, including my " self " . It's all good, I would gladly give up everything I have to reunite with God/source. Much love Elektra x x x _________ All New Mail – Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Just my old self. Troy > > Hello > > Someone recently asked me if I feel I have lost anything in my > journey in life with the K that I don't think will ever come back. > This struck me as such a poignant, pertinent and important question > that I decided to present it to the group. > > Bret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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