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From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)16th

April 2010

Dear Members.

Predicting Marriage for a native:

We are going

to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who is in

the marriageable age.

The following are the birth details.

Chart is of a male member.

Date of Birth 4th May,

1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

 

 

 

Planet

Degrees

Nakshatra

Lord

 

 

As

7 Ge 25

Ardra

Ra

 

 

Su

21 Ar 7

Bharani

Ve

 

 

Mo

26 Ta 23

Mrigashira

Ma

 

 

MaR

0 Sc 36

Visakha

Ju

 

 

MeR

3 Ar 39

Aswini

Ke

 

 

JuR

20 Sg 12

P.Asadha

Ve

 

 

Ve

9 Ar 39

Aswini

Ke

 

 

SaR

20 Li 17

Visakha

Ju

 

 

Ra

15 Ta 13

Rohini

Mo

 

 

Ke

15 Sc 13

Anuradha

Sa

 

 

The birth time of the

native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the native

was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement.

 

The first thing that strikes

the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While

the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second thing

is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV

and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

Sun have low points.

 

So when we look into

the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

From Rasi Chart:

1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

2. Moon Lord and its 7th

Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

3. Sun Lord and its 7th

lord are again in 6:8 position.

 

From Navamsa Chart:

1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

Lord are again in 8:6 position.

2. Moon Lord and its 7th

Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but one

will try to dominate the other.

3. Sun Lord and its 7th

Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

 

Now let us turn to the

Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since the

aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by

Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have

only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact

that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a

benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect much. In

addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least moderately both

by Saturn and Jupiter.

 

Next is the Functional

Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

 

The SAV points for the

5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

28.

 

One more thing to be

seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is having a

6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage house is

to get some deficiency.

 

Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

to be a bed of roses.

 

In this chart 4 planets

are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are going to

enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by placement or

aspect.

 

Now let us turn towards

timing of marriage.

The position of Saturn

in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be over

Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months

from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8

months.

 

There is no Jupiter

Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The native

as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any allowance

for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time of

marriage is ripe now.

 

Now let us turn to the

worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any one

of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will

be more eager to give the results.

 

The current Antara that

is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to happen

in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

on 21st July 2011.

 

Saturn is neither LoD

nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars having

12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

 

The next Antara is that

of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence no

doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also aspect

any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part of

Mercury Antara.

 

Uptil now, members if

they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

 

The real question I want

to ask the members is this.

 

Is it possible for the

marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

Antara?

 

There is a reason

behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I have

collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the timing

of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my

study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough

to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I

shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also in

all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of which

one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according to Bhrigu

Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I shall be

glad to have your views on this.

 

Regards

 

Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

 

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Can you provide more events for this person?

 

Why haven't you considered marriage in current Saturn period, 3rd sector? There

does not seem to be a happy marriage in this case, and Saturn with less than 12

points for the 7th house can give marriage. I am curious to know your thoughts.

 

Nir.

 

, " yenbeeyes_radha "

<yenbeeyes wrote:

>

>

> From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

>

>

> 16th April 2010

>

> Dear Members.

>

> Predicting Marriage for a native:

>

> We are going to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a

> male native who is in the marriageable age.

>

> The following are the birth details. Chart is of a male member.

>

> Date of Birth 4th May, 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST

> -5:30

>

> Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

>

>

>

> Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord As 7 Ge 25 Ardra Ra

> Su 21 Ar 7 Bharani Ve Mo 26 Ta 23 Mrigashira Ma

> MaR 0 Sc 36 Visakha Ju MeR 3 Ar 39 Aswini Ke JuR

> 20 Sg 12 P.Asadha Ve Ve 9 Ar 39 Aswini Ke SaR 20

> Li 17 Visakha Ju Ra 15 Ta 13 Rohini Mo Ke 15 Sc

> 13 Anuradha Sa

>

>

> The birth time of the native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion

> tested it when the native was about to finish his post graduation and

> analysed it for job placement.

>

>

>

> The first thing that strikes the mind in the chart is the placement of

> Saturn in the 5th house in Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement

> of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While the first will be contributing

> towards delay of the marriage, the second thing is going to disturb the

> family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV and also because

> the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43 degrees, we

> can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not applicable.

> This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th as well as

> the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus and Saturn have low points.

> For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and Sun have low points.

>

>

>

> So when we look into the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is

> like this:

>

> From Rasi Chart:

>

> 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good

> result out of marriage.

>

> 2. Moon Lord and its 7th Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

>

> 3. Sun Lord and its 7th lord are again in 6:8 position.

>

>

>

> From Navamsa Chart:

>

> 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th Lord are again in 8:6 position.

>

> 2. Moon Lord and its 7th Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the

> relationship would be moderate but one will try to dominate the other.

>

> 3. Sun Lord and its 7th Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the

> relationship would be tolerable.

>

>

>

> Now let us turn to the Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is

> with Sun and Mercury. The distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11

> degrees and hence it is not combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn

> (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic aspect). Jupiter is the only planet

> that can control Venus, but here since the aspect is malefic, he has no

> say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled. Further Venus is in the

> constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by Mars (the 6th Lord)

> and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being aspected by both Saturn

> and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into account, we can say

> Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have only 4 bindus

> and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact that Mars

> is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th house itself.

> Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a benefic

> if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

> greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect

> much. In addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in

> both Rasi and Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at

> least moderately both by Saturn and Jupiter.

>

>

>

> Next is the Functional Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1).

> Being placed in the 12th, it may increase the value of the 12th house.

> But he is conjoined with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus

> than Moon (in whose constellation he is placed) due to more AV points

> for Venus for the 12th house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again

> getting the aspect of 6th Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not

> disturbed. So we can conclude that overall the Functional karaka is

> afflicted.

>

>

>

> The SAV points for the 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than 28.

>

>

>

> One more thing to be seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite

> house Lord Mercury is having a 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the

> result of house B viz. marriage house is to get some deficiency.

>

>

>

> Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going to be a

> bed of roses.

>

>

>

> In this chart 4 planets are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and

> Saturn. Hence all these are going to enhance the results and all of them

> are connected with house B by placement or aspect.

>

>

>

> Now let us turn towards timing of marriage.

>

> The position of Saturn in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa

> contribute to full delay. However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in

> Navamsa can moderate the delay. Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal

> Chart and hence for the delay to be over Saturn has to travel 10 degree

> in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months from the full delay of 27

> years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8 months.

>

>

>

> There is no Jupiter Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other

> delay is possible. The native as on date is of 25 years and 11 months.

> Even if we do not give any allowance for the moderation of delay caused

> by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after Jan., 2011. If we are to

> consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the minimum of 2 years,

> the period is already over. Hence the period for time of marriage is

> ripe now.

>

>

>

> Now let us turn to the worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus,

> Mercury, Moon, Mars are the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12

> and 12 respectively. So any one of the 4 planets can give the result.

> LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will be more eager to give the

> results.

>

>

>

> The current Antara that is running is that of Saturn and the total

> duration is 13-11-2009 to 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by

> Jupiter, the event is likely to happen in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara.

> The 2nd part begins from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends on 21st July 2011.

>

>

>

> Saturn is neither LoD nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for

> the 7th house. Mars is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the

> Navamsa of Mars. Mars having 12 points in the worksheet can give the

> marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th. However he is placed in his own house

> in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in the 12th house from B, hence it

> cannot give good results (a Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house

> from B cannot give good results). More importantly since Saturn is

> aspecting all the significating houses, a favourable result cannot be

> expected during his sub period.

>

>

>

> The next Antara is that of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high

> points in worksheet. Hence no doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final

> decider. Mercury does not also aspect any of the significating houses.

> Marriage may take place in the first part of Mercury Antara.

>

>

>

> Uptil now, members if they want to contribute or dispute some of the

> points are welcome.

>

>

>

> The real question I want to ask the members is this.

>

>

>

> Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of

> Saturn Antara?

>

>

>

> There is a reason behind this question. I have to give you some

> background of myself now. I have collected nearly 200 charts from known

> persons and I have analysed the timing of marriage in all the charts

> using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my study has already been

> forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough to edit the same

> which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I shall

> inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

> events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for

> the event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different.

> Also in all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other

> theories of which one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the

> present case according to Bhrigu Paddhati the marriage is to happen in

> the 27th year of the native which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011.

> Members should not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When

> so many charts I tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and

> another system of astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something

> in my analysis? I shall be glad to have your views on this.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

>

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Dear Nir,

 

Greetings

 

Yes. I have reasons for that. I will give the same once I get more responses

from other members.

 

I will give my reactions to all the messages under this topic at one time after

waiting say for 3/4 days so that it becomes easy at a later stage to read them

cogently.

 

Hope you will not mind.

 

Regards

 

yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

 

 

 

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

>

> Can you provide more events for this person?

>

> Why haven't you considered marriage in current Saturn period, 3rd sector?

There does not seem to be a happy marriage in this case, and Saturn with less

than 12 points for the 7th house can give marriage. I am curious to know your

thoughts.

>

> Nir.

>

> , " yenbeeyes_radha "

<yenbeeyes@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> >

> >

> > 16th April 2010

> >

> > Dear Members.

> >

> > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> >

> > We are going to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a

> > male native who is in the marriageable age.

> >

> > The following are the birth details. Chart is of a male member.

> >

> > Date of Birth 4th May, 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST

> > -5:30

> >

> > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

> >

> >

> >

> > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord As 7 Ge 25 Ardra Ra

> > Su 21 Ar 7 Bharani Ve Mo 26 Ta 23 Mrigashira Ma

> > MaR 0 Sc 36 Visakha Ju MeR 3 Ar 39 Aswini Ke JuR

> > 20 Sg 12 P.Asadha Ve Ve 9 Ar 39 Aswini Ke SaR 20

> > Li 17 Visakha Ju Ra 15 Ta 13 Rohini Mo Ke 15 Sc

> > 13 Anuradha Sa

> >

> >

> > The birth time of the native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion

> > tested it when the native was about to finish his post graduation and

> > analysed it for job placement.

> >

> >

> >

> > The first thing that strikes the mind in the chart is the placement of

> > Saturn in the 5th house in Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement

> > of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While the first will be contributing

> > towards delay of the marriage, the second thing is going to disturb the

> > family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV and also because

> > the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43 degrees, we

> > can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not applicable.

> > This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th as well as

> > the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus and Saturn have low points.

> > For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and Sun have low points.

> >

> >

> >

> > So when we look into the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is

> > like this:

> >

> > From Rasi Chart:

> >

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good

> > result out of marriage.

> >

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> >

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th lord are again in 6:8 position.

> >

> >

> >

> > From Navamsa Chart:

> >

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> >

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the

> > relationship would be moderate but one will try to dominate the other.

> >

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the

> > relationship would be tolerable.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now let us turn to the Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is

> > with Sun and Mercury. The distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11

> > degrees and hence it is not combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn

> > (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic aspect). Jupiter is the only planet

> > that can control Venus, but here since the aspect is malefic, he has no

> > say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled. Further Venus is in the

> > constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by Mars (the 6th Lord)

> > and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being aspected by both Saturn

> > and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into account, we can say

> > Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have only 4 bindus

> > and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact that Mars

> > is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th house itself.

> > Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a benefic

> > if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

> > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect

> > much. In addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in

> > both Rasi and Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at

> > least moderately both by Saturn and Jupiter.

> >

> >

> >

> > Next is the Functional Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1).

> > Being placed in the 12th, it may increase the value of the 12th house.

> > But he is conjoined with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus

> > than Moon (in whose constellation he is placed) due to more AV points

> > for Venus for the 12th house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again

> > getting the aspect of 6th Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not

> > disturbed. So we can conclude that overall the Functional karaka is

> > afflicted.

> >

> >

> >

> > The SAV points for the 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than 28.

> >

> >

> >

> > One more thing to be seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite

> > house Lord Mercury is having a 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the

> > result of house B viz. marriage house is to get some deficiency.

> >

> >

> >

> > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going to be a

> > bed of roses.

> >

> >

> >

> > In this chart 4 planets are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and

> > Saturn. Hence all these are going to enhance the results and all of them

> > are connected with house B by placement or aspect.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now let us turn towards timing of marriage.

> >

> > The position of Saturn in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa

> > contribute to full delay. However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in

> > Navamsa can moderate the delay. Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal

> > Chart and hence for the delay to be over Saturn has to travel 10 degree

> > in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months from the full delay of 27

> > years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8 months.

> >

> >

> >

> > There is no Jupiter Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other

> > delay is possible. The native as on date is of 25 years and 11 months.

> > Even if we do not give any allowance for the moderation of delay caused

> > by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after Jan., 2011. If we are to

> > consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the minimum of 2 years,

> > the period is already over. Hence the period for time of marriage is

> > ripe now.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now let us turn to the worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus,

> > Mercury, Moon, Mars are the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12

> > and 12 respectively. So any one of the 4 planets can give the result.

> > LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will be more eager to give the

> > results.

> >

> >

> >

> > The current Antara that is running is that of Saturn and the total

> > duration is 13-11-2009 to 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by

> > Jupiter, the event is likely to happen in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara.

> > The 2nd part begins from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends on 21st July 2011.

> >

> >

> >

> > Saturn is neither LoD nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for

> > the 7th house. Mars is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the

> > Navamsa of Mars. Mars having 12 points in the worksheet can give the

> > marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th. However he is placed in his own house

> > in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in the 12th house from B, hence it

> > cannot give good results (a Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house

> > from B cannot give good results). More importantly since Saturn is

> > aspecting all the significating houses, a favourable result cannot be

> > expected during his sub period.

> >

> >

> >

> > The next Antara is that of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high

> > points in worksheet. Hence no doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final

> > decider. Mercury does not also aspect any of the significating houses.

> > Marriage may take place in the first part of Mercury Antara.

> >

> >

> >

> > Uptil now, members if they want to contribute or dispute some of the

> > points are welcome.

> >

> >

> >

> > The real question I want to ask the members is this.

> >

> >

> >

> > Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of

> > Saturn Antara?

> >

> >

> >

> > There is a reason behind this question. I have to give you some

> > background of myself now. I have collected nearly 200 charts from known

> > persons and I have analysed the timing of marriage in all the charts

> > using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my study has already been

> > forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough to edit the same

> > which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I shall

> > inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

> > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for

> > the event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different.

> > Also in all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other

> > theories of which one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the

> > present case according to Bhrigu Paddhati the marriage is to happen in

> > the 27th year of the native which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011.

> > Members should not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When

> > so many charts I tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and

> > another system of astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something

> > in my analysis? I shall be glad to have your views on this.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

> >

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17.04.10

 

Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

 

Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

 

Dear Balasubraanian ji and Group,

In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in the 1st sector itself.

 

Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

 

Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

 

Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

 

So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

 

Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

 

This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary combinations as well.

Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

 

The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

 

This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results.

 

The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females developed into an affair.

 

There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened.

 

I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses to the 2nd sector.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

 

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

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From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

16th

April 2010

 

Dear Members.

 

Predicting Marriage for a native:

 

We are going

to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who is in

the marriageable age.

 

The following are the birth details.

Chart is of a male member.

 

Date of Birth 4th May,

1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

 

Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

 

 

 

 

 

Planet

Degrees

Nakshatra

Lord

 

 

As

7 Ge 25

Ardra

Ra

 

 

Su

21 Ar 7

Bharani

Ve

 

 

Mo

26 Ta 23

Mrigashira

Ma

 

 

MaR

0 Sc 36

Visakha

Ju

 

 

MeR

3 Ar 39

Aswini

Ke

 

 

JuR

20 Sg 12

P.Asadha

Ve

 

 

Ve

9 Ar 39

Aswini

Ke

 

 

SaR

20 Li 17

Visakha

Ju

 

 

Ra

15 Ta 13

Rohini

Mo

 

 

Ke

15 Sc 13

Anuradha

Sa

 

 

 

The birth time of the

native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the native

was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement.

 

 

 

The first thing that strikes

the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While

the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second thing

is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV

and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

Sun have low points.

 

 

 

So when we look into

the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

 

From Rasi Chart:

 

1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

 

2. Moon Lord and its 7th

Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

 

3. Sun Lord and its 7th

lord are again in 6:8 position.

 

 

 

From Navamsa Chart:

 

1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

Lord are again in 8:6 position.

 

2. Moon Lord and its 7th

Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but one

will try to dominate the other.

 

3. Sun Lord and its 7th

Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

 

 

 

Now let us turn to the

Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since the

aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by

Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have

only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact

that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a

benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect much. In

addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least moderately both

by Saturn and Jupiter.

 

 

 

Next is the Functional

Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

 

 

 

The SAV points for the

5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

28.

 

 

 

One more thing to be

seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is having a

6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage house is

to get some deficiency.

 

 

 

Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

to be a bed of roses.

 

 

 

In this chart 4 planets

are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are going to

enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by placement or

aspect.

 

 

 

Now let us turn towards

timing of marriage.

 

The position of Saturn

in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be over

Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months

from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8

months.

 

 

 

There is no Jupiter

Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The native

as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any allowance

for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time of

marriage is ripe now.

 

 

 

Now let us turn to the

worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any one

of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will

be more eager to give the results.

 

 

 

The current Antara that

is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to happen

in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

on 21st July 2011.

 

 

 

Saturn is neither LoD

nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars having

12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

 

 

 

The next Antara is that

of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence no

doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also aspect

any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part of

Mercury Antara.

 

 

 

Uptil now, members if

they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

 

 

 

The real question I want

to ask the members is this.

 

 

 

Is it possible for the

marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

Antara?

 

 

 

There is a reason

behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I have

collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the timing

of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my

study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough

to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I

shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also in

all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of which

one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according to Bhrigu

Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I shall be

glad to have your views on this.

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

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17.04.10

 

Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

 

Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

 

Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

 

In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in the 1st sector itself.

 

Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

 

Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

 

Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

 

So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

 

Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

 

This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary combinations as well.

Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

 

The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

 

This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results.

 

The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females developed into an affair.

 

There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened.

 

I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses to the 2nd sector.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

 

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

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On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

16th

April 2010

 

Dear Members.

 

Predicting Marriage for a native:

 

We are going

to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who is in

the marriageable age.

 

The following are the birth details.

Chart is of a male member.

 

Date of Birth 4th May,

1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

 

Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

 

 

 

 

 

Planet

Degrees

Nakshatra

Lord

 

 

As

7 Ge 25

Ardra

Ra

 

 

Su

21 Ar 7

Bharani

Ve

 

 

Mo

26 Ta 23

Mrigashira

Ma

 

 

MaR

0 Sc 36

Visakha

Ju

 

 

MeR

3 Ar 39

Aswini

Ke

 

 

JuR

20 Sg 12

P.Asadha

Ve

 

 

Ve

9 Ar 39

Aswini

Ke

 

 

SaR

20 Li 17

Visakha

Ju

 

 

Ra

15 Ta 13

Rohini

Mo

 

 

Ke

15 Sc 13

Anuradha

Sa

 

 

 

The birth time of the

native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the native

was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement.

 

 

 

The first thing that strikes

the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While

the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second thing

is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV

and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

Sun have low points.

 

 

 

So when we look into

the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

 

From Rasi Chart:

 

1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

 

2. Moon Lord and its 7th

Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

 

3. Sun Lord and its 7th

lord are again in 6:8 position.

 

 

 

From Navamsa Chart:

 

1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

Lord are again in 8:6 position.

 

2. Moon Lord and its 7th

Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but one

will try to dominate the other.

 

3. Sun Lord and its 7th

Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

 

 

 

Now let us turn to the

Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since the

aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by

Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have

only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact

that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a

benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect much. In

addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least moderately both

by Saturn and Jupiter.

 

 

 

Next is the Functional

Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

 

 

 

The SAV points for the

5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

28.

 

 

 

One more thing to be

seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is having a

6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage house is

to get some deficiency.

 

 

 

Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

to be a bed of roses.

 

 

 

In this chart 4 planets

are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are going to

enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by placement or

aspect.

 

 

 

Now let us turn towards

timing of marriage.

 

The position of Saturn

in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be over

Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months

from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8

months.

 

 

 

There is no Jupiter

Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The native

as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any allowance

for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time of

marriage is ripe now.

 

 

 

Now let us turn to the

worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any one

of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will

be more eager to give the results.

 

 

 

The current Antara that

is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to happen

in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

on 21st July 2011.

 

 

 

Saturn is neither LoD

nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars having

12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

 

 

 

The next Antara is that

of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence no

doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also aspect

any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part of

Mercury Antara.

 

 

 

Uptil now, members if

they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

 

 

 

The real question I want

to ask the members is this.

 

 

 

Is it possible for the

marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

Antara?

 

 

 

There is a reason

behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I have

collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the timing

of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my

study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough

to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I

shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also in

all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of which

one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according to Bhrigu

Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I shall be

glad to have your views on this.

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

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Nikhlesh

 

17.04.10

 

Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

 

Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

 

Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

 

We have learnt that when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in its 1st sector itself.

 

In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore going by this, Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

 

Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and therefore should NOT give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

 

Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which also reflective about marriage, then we find that Sa is LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit with points not more than 4).

 

So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage in its AD and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being a delay causing planet).

 

Now looking from another angle, marriage in the AD of a low power generally gives unhappiness in married life.

 

This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary combinations as well, which Bala ji has already elucidated.

 

Therefore the chart speaks of possibilities of marriage in the Sa AD.

 

Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12 for considering some quality in the event.

 

The next obvious AD for marriage is of Me which is comparatively stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord. But marriage in Me AD does not speak of unhappiness in marriage (quality-wise) taking this fact in isolation.

 

The native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s effect in it (The Asc is in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native's mind. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results.

 

The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females develop into an affair.

 

There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed that love marriages take place instantly either at a very young age or when the delay had already occured (a general observation).

 

I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are good chances that the event occurs in the 1st sector itself.

 

However the affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa respectively can stretch the delay a bit such that the time frame crosses over to the 2nd sector.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

 

 

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Dear Nir,

 

 

 

Greetings

 

 

 

Yes. I have reasons for that. I will give the same once I get more responses from other members.

 

 

 

I will give my reactions to all the messages under this topic at one time after waiting say for 3/4 days so that it becomes easy at a later stage to read them cogently.

 

 

 

Hope you will not mind.

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

 

 

 

, "nirvana_seeker3" wrote:

 

>

 

> Can you provide more events for this person?

 

>

 

> Why haven't you considered marriage in current Saturn period, 3rd sector? There does not seem to be a happy marriage in this case, and Saturn with less than 12 points for the 7th house can give marriage. I am curious to know your thoughts.

 

>

 

> Nir.

 

>

 

> , "yenbeeyes_radha" wrote:

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > 16th April 2010

 

> >

 

> > Dear Members.

 

> >

 

> > Predicting Marriage for a native:

 

> >

 

> > We are going to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a

 

> > male native who is in the marriageable age.

 

> >

 

> > The following are the birth details. Chart is of a male member.

 

> >

 

> > Date of Birth 4th May, 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST

 

> > -5:30

 

> >

 

> > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord As 7 Ge 25 Ardra Ra

 

> > Su 21 Ar 7 Bharani Ve Mo 26 Ta 23 Mrigashira Ma

 

> > MaR 0 Sc 36 Visakha Ju MeR 3 Ar 39 Aswini Ke JuR

 

> > 20 Sg 12 P.Asadha Ve Ve 9 Ar 39 Aswini Ke SaR 20

 

> > Li 17 Visakha Ju Ra 15 Ta 13 Rohini Mo Ke 15 Sc

 

> > 13 Anuradha Sa

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > The birth time of the native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion

 

> > tested it when the native was about to finish his post graduation and

 

> > analysed it for job placement.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > The first thing that strikes the mind in the chart is the placement of

 

> > Saturn in the 5th house in Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement

 

> > of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While the first will be contributing

 

> > towards delay of the marriage, the second thing is going to disturb the

 

> > family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV and also because

 

> > the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43 degrees, we

 

> > can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not applicable.

 

> > This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th as well as

 

> > the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus and Saturn have low points.

 

> > For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and Sun have low points.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > So when we look into the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is

 

> > like this:

 

> >

 

> > From Rasi Chart:

 

> >

 

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good

 

> > result out of marriage.

 

> >

 

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

 

> >

 

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th lord are again in 6:8 position.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > From Navamsa Chart:

 

> >

 

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th Lord are again in 8:6 position.

 

> >

 

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the

 

> > relationship would be moderate but one will try to dominate the other.

 

> >

 

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the

 

> > relationship would be tolerable.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Now let us turn to the Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is

 

> > with Sun and Mercury. The distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11

 

> > degrees and hence it is not combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn

 

> > (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic aspect). Jupiter is the only planet

 

> > that can control Venus, but here since the aspect is malefic, he has no

 

> > say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled. Further Venus is in the

 

> > constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by Mars (the 6th Lord)

 

> > and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being aspected by both Saturn

 

> > and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into account, we can say

 

> > Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have only 4 bindus

 

> > and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact that Mars

 

> > is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th house itself.

 

> > Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a benefic

 

> > if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

 

> > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect

 

> > much. In addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in

 

> > both Rasi and Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at

 

> > least moderately both by Saturn and Jupiter.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Next is the Functional Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1).

 

> > Being placed in the 12th, it may increase the value of the 12th house.

 

> > But he is conjoined with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus

 

> > than Moon (in whose constellation he is placed) due to more AV points

 

> > for Venus for the 12th house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again

 

> > getting the aspect of 6th Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not

 

> > disturbed. So we can conclude that overall the Functional karaka is

 

> > afflicted.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > The SAV points for the 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than 28.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > One more thing to be seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite

 

> > house Lord Mercury is having a 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the

 

> > result of house B viz. marriage house is to get some deficiency.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going to be a

 

> > bed of roses.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > In this chart 4 planets are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and

 

> > Saturn. Hence all these are going to enhance the results and all of them

 

> > are connected with house B by placement or aspect.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Now let us turn towards timing of marriage.

 

> >

 

> > The position of Saturn in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa

 

> > contribute to full delay. However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in

 

> > Navamsa can moderate the delay. Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal

 

> > Chart and hence for the delay to be over Saturn has to travel 10 degree

 

> > in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months from the full delay of 27

 

> > years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8 months.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > There is no Jupiter Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other

 

> > delay is possible. The native as on date is of 25 years and 11 months.

 

> > Even if we do not give any allowance for the moderation of delay caused

 

> > by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after Jan., 2011. If we are to

 

> > consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the minimum of 2 years,

 

> > the period is already over. Hence the period for time of marriage is

 

> > ripe now.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Now let us turn to the worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus,

 

> > Mercury, Moon, Mars are the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12

 

> > and 12 respectively. So any one of the 4 planets can give the result.

 

> > LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will be more eager to give the

 

> > results.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > The current Antara that is running is that of Saturn and the total

 

> > duration is 13-11-2009 to 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by

 

> > Jupiter, the event is likely to happen in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara.

 

> > The 2nd part begins from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends on 21st July 2011.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Saturn is neither LoD nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for

 

> > the 7th house. Mars is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the

 

> > Navamsa of Mars. Mars having 12 points in the worksheet can give the

 

> > marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th. However he is placed in his own house

 

> > in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in the 12th house from B, hence it

 

> > cannot give good results (a Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house

 

> > from B cannot give good results). More importantly since Saturn is

 

> > aspecting all the significating houses, a favourable result cannot be

 

> > expected during his sub period.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > The next Antara is that of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high

 

> > points in worksheet. Hence no doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final

 

> > decider. Mercury does not also aspect any of the significating houses.

 

> > Marriage may take place in the first part of Mercury Antara.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Uptil now, members if they want to contribute or dispute some of the

 

> > points are welcome.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > The real question I want to ask the members is this.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of

 

> > Saturn Antara?

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > There is a reason behind this question. I have to give you some

 

> > background of myself now. I have collected nearly 200 charts from known

 

> > persons and I have analysed the timing of marriage in all the charts

 

> > using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my study has already been

 

> > forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough to edit the same

 

> > which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I shall

 

> > inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

 

> > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for

 

> > the event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different.

 

> > Also in all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other

 

> > theories of which one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the

 

> > present case according to Bhrigu Paddhati the marriage is to happen in

 

> > the 27th year of the native which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011.

 

> > Members should not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When

 

> > so many charts I tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and

 

> > another system of astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something

 

> > in my analysis? I shall be glad to have your views on this.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Regards

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

 

> >

 

>

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Dear Nir,

 

The only event that I

could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post graduate degree

from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007 through

Campus placement. He shifted his job in

the foreign country in September 2009.

 

The reasons for not

considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

 

Yes, This native's

chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna Lord and

the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

is a big question to be seen?

 

Also Nikhleshji has

given nice explanations.

 

Dear Nikhleshji,

 

Very good analysis.

 

Since Saturn the delay

causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual (1:7) aspect

between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to the 2nd

sector.

 

As regards the

relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such relationship

because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet Venus

both in Rasi and Navamsa?

 

Yenbeeyes (Bala

Subramanian)

, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur wrote:>> 17.04.10

> > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in the 1st sector itself.

> > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

> > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

> > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

> > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

> > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life. > > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary combinations as well. > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results. > > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females developed into an affair. > > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened. > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses to the 2nd sector.

> > Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> >

> > > > > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> 16th

> April 2010

> > Dear Members.

> > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> > We are going

> to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who is in

> the marriageable age.

> > The following are the birth details.

> Chart is of a male member.

> > Date of Birth 4th May,

> 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

> > > > > > Planet

> Degrees

> Nakshatra

> Lord

> > > As

> 7 Ge 25

> Ardra

> Ra

> > > Su

> 21 Ar 7

> Bharani

> Ve

> > > Mo

> 26 Ta 23

> Mrigashira

> Ma

> > > MaR

> 0 Sc 36

> Visakha

> Ju

> > > MeR

> 3 Ar 39

> Aswini

> Ke

> > > JuR

> 20 Sg 12

> P.Asadha

> Ve

> > > Ve

> 9 Ar 39

> Aswini

> Ke

> > > SaR

> 20 Li 17

> Visakha

> Ju

> > > Ra

> 15 Ta 13

> Rohini

> Mo

> > > Ke

> 15 Sc 13

> Anuradha

> Sa

> > > > The birth time of the

> native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the native

> was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement. > > > > The first thing that strikes

> the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

> Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While

> the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second thing

> is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV

> and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

> degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

> applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

> as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

> Sun have low points.

> > > > So when we look into

> the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

> > From Rasi Chart:

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> lord are again in 6:8 position.

> > > > From Navamsa Chart:

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but one

> will try to dominate the other.

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

> > > > Now let us turn to the

> Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

> distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

> combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

> aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since the

> aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

> Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by

> Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

> aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

> account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have

> only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact

> that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

> house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a

> benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

> greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect much. In

> addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

> Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least moderately both

> by Saturn and Jupiter. > > > > Next is the Functional

> Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

> it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

> with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

> constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

> house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

> Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

> overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> > > > The SAV points for the

> 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> 28.

> > > > One more thing to be

> seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is having a

> 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage house is

> to get some deficiency.

> > > > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

> to be a bed of roses.

> > > > In this chart 4 planets

> are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are going to

> enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by placement or

> aspect.

> > > > Now let us turn towards

> timing of marriage.

> > The position of Saturn

> in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

> However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

> Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be over

> Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months

> from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8

> months. > > > > There is no Jupiter

> Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The native

> as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any allowance

> for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

> Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

> minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time of

> marriage is ripe now.

> > > > Now let us turn to the

> worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

> the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any one

> of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will

> be more eager to give the results.

> > > > The current Antara that

> is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

> 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to happen

> in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> on 21st July 2011.

> > > > Saturn is neither LoD

> nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

> is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars having

> 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

> However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

> the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

> results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

> houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period. > > > > The next Antara is that

> of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence no

> doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also aspect

> any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part of

> Mercury Antara. > > > > Uptil now, members if

> they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

> > > > The real question I want

> to ask the members is this.

> > > > Is it possible for the

> marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> Antara?

> > > > There is a reason

> behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I have

> collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the timing

> of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my

> study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough

> to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I

> shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

> events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

> event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also in

> all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of which

> one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according to Bhrigu

> Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

> which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

> not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

> tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

> astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I shall be

> glad to have your views on this.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)>

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Thanks. Please keep the group posted as and when this person gets married.

 

Nir.

 

, " yenbeeyes_radha "

<yenbeeyes wrote:

>

>

> Dear Nir,

>

>

>

> The only event that I could gather from the native's parent's

> are that he got a Post graduate degree from IIT in June 2007 and left

> for a foreign placement in August 2007 through Campus placement. He

> shifted his job in the foreign country in September 2009.

>

>

>

> The reasons for not considering the event in the 3rd sector is that

> Jupiter is aspecting Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd

> part.

>

>

>

> Yes, This native's chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will

> the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to

> give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

>

>

>

> Also Nikhleshji has given nice explanations.

>

>

>

> Dear Nikhleshji,

>

>

>

> Very good analysis.

>

>

>

> Since Saturn the delay causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and

> there is a mutual (1:7) aspect between them in Navamsa, I decided for

> the 2nd sector. Additionally as you have stated the affliction of the

> karakas may postpone it to the 2nd sector.

>

>

>

> As regards the relationship turning into love and fructifying into

> marriage is also a possibility. Is there a possibility that there may

> not be any such relationship because of the aspect of Jupiter on the

> strongest significator planet Venus both in Rasi and Navamsa?

>

>

>

> Yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

>

>

>

> , " nikhlesh mathur "

> <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> >

> > 17.04.10

> >

> > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa:

> 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> >

> > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen

> during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> >

> > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> >

> > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD

> of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the

> event in the 1st sector itself.

> >

> > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

> >

> > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and

> therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20

> or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8

> points.

> >

> > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also

> reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is

> LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than

> 4).

> >

> > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with

> other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to

> give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being

> delay causing planet).

> >

> > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet

> AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

> >

> > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other

> planetary combinations as well.

> > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating

> quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> >

> > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for

> 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> >

> > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the

> native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong

> effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this

> native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results.

> >

> > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with

> females developed into an affair.

> >

> > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is

> observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had

> already happened.

> >

> > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there

> are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the

> affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the

> delay a bit which crosses to the 2nd sector.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> >

> > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> > >

> >

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> >

> > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> > 16th

> > April 2010

> >

> > Dear Members.

> >

> > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> >

> > We are going

> > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native

> who is in

> > the marriageable age.

> >

> > The following are the birth details.

> > Chart is of a male member.

> >

> > Date of Birth 4th May,

> > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> >

> > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Planet

> > Degrees

> > Nakshatra

> > Lord

> >

> >

> > As

> > 7 Ge 25

> > Ardra

> > Ra

> >

> >

> > Su

> > 21 Ar 7

> > Bharani

> > Ve

> >

> >

> > Mo

> > 26 Ta 23

> > Mrigashira

> > Ma

> >

> >

> > MaR

> > 0 Sc 36

> > Visakha

> > Ju

> >

> >

> > MeR

> > 3 Ar 39

> > Aswini

> > Ke

> >

> >

> > JuR

> > 20 Sg 12

> > P.Asadha

> > Ve

> >

> >

> > Ve

> > 9 Ar 39

> > Aswini

> > Ke

> >

> >

> > SaR

> > 20 Li 17

> > Visakha

> > Ju

> >

> >

> > Ra

> > 15 Ta 13

> > Rohini

> > Mo

> >

> >

> > Ke

> > 15 Sc 13

> > Anuradha

> > Sa

> >

> >

> >

> > The birth time of the

> > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the

> native

> > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job

> placement.

> >

> >

> >

> > The first thing that strikes

> > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

> > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra

> Navamsa. While

> > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the

> second thing

> > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no

> zeros in SAV

> > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater

> than 43

> > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is

> not

> > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

> > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

> > Sun have low points.

> >

> >

> >

> > So when we look into

> > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

> >

> > From Rasi Chart:

> >

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

> >

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> >

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > lord are again in 6:8 position.

> >

> >

> >

> > From Navamsa Chart:

> >

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> >

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate

> but one

> > will try to dominate the other.

> >

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be

> tolerable.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now let us turn to the

> > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury.

> The

> > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is

> not

> > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by

> Jupiter(malefic

> > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here

> since the

> > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets

> spoiled.

> > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally

> represented by

> > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

> > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken

> into

> > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and

> Saturn have

> > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the

> fact

> > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

> > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house

> becomes a

> > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more

> points (i.e.

> > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect

> much. In

> > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both

> Rasi and

> > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least

> moderately both

> > by Saturn and Jupiter.

> >

> >

> >

> > Next is the Functional

> > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the

> 12th,

> > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

> > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

> > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the

> 12th

> > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

> > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude

> that

> > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> >

> >

> >

> > The SAV points for the

> > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> > 28.

> >

> >

> >

> > One more thing to be

> > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is

> having a

> > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage

> house is

> > to get some deficiency.

> >

> >

> >

> > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

> > to be a bed of roses.

> >

> >

> >

> > In this chart 4 planets

> > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are

> going to

> > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by

> placement or

> > aspect.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now let us turn towards

> > timing of marriage.

> >

> > The position of Saturn

> > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

> > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the

> delay.

> > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to

> be over

> > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10

> months

> > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26

> Years and 8

> > months.

> >

> >

> >

> > There is no Jupiter

> > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The

> native

> > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any

> allowance

> > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes

> after

> > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter

> say the

> > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for

> time of

> > marriage is ripe now.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now let us turn to the

> > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

> > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively.

> So any one

> > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus

> who will

> > be more eager to give the results.

> >

> >

> >

> > The current Antara that

> > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

> > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely

> to happen

> > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> > on 21st July 2011.

> >

> >

> >

> > Saturn is neither LoD

> > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

> > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars.

> Mars having

> > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of

> 6th.

> > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is

> placed in

> > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

> > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the

> significating

> > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

> >

> >

> >

> > The next Antara is that

> > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet.

> Hence no

> > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also

> aspect

> > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first

> part of

> > Mercury Antara.

> >

> >

> >

> > Uptil now, members if

> > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

> >

> >

> >

> > The real question I want

> > to ask the members is this.

> >

> >

> >

> > Is it possible for the

> > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> > Antara?

> >

> >

> >

> > There is a reason

> > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself

> now. I have

> > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the

> timing

> > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate

> writing on my

> > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were

> kind enough

> > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological

> magazine. I

> > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they

> are all

> > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons

> for the

> > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different.

> Also in

> > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories

> of which

> > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case

> according to Bhrigu

> > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

> > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

> > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many

> charts I

> > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

> > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I

> shall be

> > glad to have your views on this.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

> >

>

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21.04.10

 

Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

 

Questions:

 

1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and D-9.

 

2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

 

 

Dear Balasubramanian ji,

I think that for the majority of the events in life there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

 

The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most important role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in the events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s personality which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from time to time.

 

Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on the 11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot be termed as a strong check.

 

Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

 

Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and D-9 charts.

 

Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love affair.

 

That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong significator Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect of Ju is malefic.

 

The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now also needs to be taken into account.

 

Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence of affair.

 

For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

 

The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

 

If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20 degrees and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not there and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

 

So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong; this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would like our Moderators to throw might on this.

 

If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this facet gets tilted towards unhappiness.

 

However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping the unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the couple concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the exact feeling of the partners.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

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Dear Nir,

 

 

 

The only event that I

could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post graduate degree

from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007 through

Campus placement. He shifted his job in

the foreign country in September 2009.

 

 

 

The reasons for not

considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

 

 

 

Yes, This native's

chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna Lord and

the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

is a big question to be seen?

 

 

 

Also Nikhleshji has

given nice explanations.

 

 

 

Dear Nikhleshji,

 

 

 

Very good analysis.

 

 

 

Since Saturn the delay

causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual (1:7) aspect

between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to the 2nd

sector.

 

 

 

As regards the

relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such relationship

because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet Venus

both in Rasi and Navamsa?

 

 

 

Yenbeeyes (Bala

Subramanian)

 

 

 

 

, "nikhlesh mathur" wrote:

>

> 17.04.10

 

>

 

> Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

 

>

 

> Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

 

>

 

> Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

 

>

 

> In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in the 1st sector itself.

 

>

 

> Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

 

>

 

> Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

 

>

 

> Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

 

>

 

> So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

 

>

 

> Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

 

>

 

> This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary combinations as well.

 

> Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

 

>

 

> The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

 

>

 

> This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results.

 

>

 

> The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females developed into an affair.

 

>

 

> There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened.

 

>

 

> I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses to the 2nd sector.

 

>

 

> Regards,

 

> Nikhlesh Mathur

 

>

 

>

 

> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

 

> 16th

 

> April 2010

 

>

 

> Dear Members.

 

>

 

> Predicting Marriage for a native:

 

>

 

> We are going

 

> to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who is in

 

> the marriageable age.

 

>

 

> The following are the birth details.

 

> Chart is of a male member.

 

>

 

> Date of Birth 4th May,

 

> 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

 

>

 

> Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

 

> Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Planet

 

> Degrees

 

> Nakshatra

 

> Lord

 

>

 

>

 

> As

 

> 7 Ge 25

 

> Ardra

 

> Ra

 

>

 

>

 

> Su

 

> 21 Ar 7

 

> Bharani

 

> Ve

 

>

 

>

 

> Mo

 

> 26 Ta 23

 

> Mrigashira

 

> Ma

 

>

 

>

 

> MaR

 

> 0 Sc 36

 

> Visakha

 

> Ju

 

>

 

>

 

> MeR

 

> 3 Ar 39

 

> Aswini

 

> Ke

 

>

 

>

 

> JuR

 

> 20 Sg 12

 

> P.Asadha

 

> Ve

 

>

 

>

 

> Ve

 

> 9 Ar 39

 

> Aswini

 

> Ke

 

>

 

>

 

> SaR

 

> 20 Li 17

 

> Visakha

 

> Ju

 

>

 

>

 

> Ra

 

> 15 Ta 13

 

> Rohini

 

> Mo

 

>

 

>

 

> Ke

 

> 15 Sc 13

 

> Anuradha

 

> Sa

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> The birth time of the

 

> native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the native

 

> was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> The first thing that strikes

 

> the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

 

> Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While

 

> the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second thing

 

> is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV

 

> and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

 

> degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

 

> applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

 

> as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

 

> and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

 

> Sun have low points.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> So when we look into

 

> the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

 

>

 

> From Rasi Chart:

 

>

 

> 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

 

> Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

 

>

 

> 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

 

> Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

 

>

 

> 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

 

> lord are again in 6:8 position.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> From Navamsa Chart:

 

>

 

> 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

 

> Lord are again in 8:6 position.

 

>

 

> 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

 

> Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but one

 

> will try to dominate the other.

 

>

 

> 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

 

> Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Now let us turn to the

 

> Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

 

> distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

 

> combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

 

> aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since the

 

> aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

 

> Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by

 

> Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

 

> aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

 

> account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have

 

> only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact

 

> that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

 

> house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a

 

> benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

 

> greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect much. In

 

> addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

 

> Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least moderately both

 

> by Saturn and Jupiter.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Next is the Functional

 

> Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

 

> it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

 

> with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

 

> constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

 

> house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

 

> Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

 

> overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> The SAV points for the

 

> 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

 

> 28.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> One more thing to be

 

> seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is having a

 

> 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage house is

 

> to get some deficiency.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

 

> to be a bed of roses.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> In this chart 4 planets

 

> are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are going to

 

> enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by placement or

 

> aspect.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Now let us turn towards

 

> timing of marriage.

 

>

 

> The position of Saturn

 

> in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

 

> However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

 

> Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be over

 

> Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months

 

> from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8

 

> months.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> There is no Jupiter

 

> Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The native

 

> as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any allowance

 

> for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

 

> Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

 

> minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time of

 

> marriage is ripe now.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Now let us turn to the

 

> worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

 

> the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any one

 

> of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will

 

> be more eager to give the results.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> The current Antara that

 

> is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

 

> 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to happen

 

> in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

 

> from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

 

> on 21st July 2011.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Saturn is neither LoD

 

> nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

 

> is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars having

 

> 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

 

> However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

 

> the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

 

> Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

 

> results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

 

> houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> The next Antara is that

 

> of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence no

 

> doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also aspect

 

> any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part of

 

> Mercury Antara.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Uptil now, members if

 

> they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> The real question I want

 

> to ask the members is this.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Is it possible for the

 

> marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

 

> Antara?

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> There is a reason

 

> behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I have

 

> collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the timing

 

> of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my

 

> study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough

 

> to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I

 

> shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

 

> events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

 

> event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also in

 

> all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of which

 

> one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according to Bhrigu

 

> Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

 

> which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

 

> not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

 

> tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

 

> astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I shall be

 

> glad to have your views on this.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Regards

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

>

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Dear Nikhlesh ji,

 

- 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come together in

navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1 so if 2

planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15 then

they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

 

- Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is irrespective of the

points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are seeing the reflection

of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore that we use for

Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this principle.

 

Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of Sa. It still

causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of Saturn. If Sa

is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for Sa will

become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will reduce

the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in the

WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur wrote:

>

>

> 21.04.10

>

> Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa:

22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

>

> Questions:

>

> 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship due to

aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and D-9.

>

> 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough

to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

>

>

> Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> I think that for the majority of the events in life

there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and

simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

>

> The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most important role

and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa points),

Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in the

events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s personality

which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from time to

time.

>

> Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on the 11th

house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot be

termed as a strong check.

>

> Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

>

> Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and D-9

charts.

>

> Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the laws state

that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love affair.

>

> That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong significator Ve, is

another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect of Ju is malefic.

>

> The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally

prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now

also needs to be taken into account.

>

> Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s for love

affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence of

affair.

>

> For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that there is

one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju in Libra

in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house lords)

trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

>

> The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

>

> If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20 degrees and Me

has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not there and it

is more toward 4:10 combination.

>

> So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong; this I am

just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would like our

Moderators to throw might on this.

>

> If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this facet gets

tilted towards unhappiness.

>

> However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping the

unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the couple

concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the exact

feeling of the partners.

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

>

>

>

>

>

> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Nir,

>

>

>

> The only event that I

> could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post graduate degree

> from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007 through

> Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> the foreign country in September 2009.

>

>

>

> The reasons for not

> considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

> Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

>

>

>

> Yes, This native's

> chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna Lord

and

> the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

> is a big question to be seen?

>

>

>

> Also Nikhleshji has

> given nice explanations.

>

>

>

> Dear Nikhleshji,

>

>

>

> Very good analysis.

>

>

>

> Since Saturn the delay

> causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual (1:7) aspect

> between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

> as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to the 2nd

> sector.

>

>

>

> As regards the

> relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

> possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such

relationship

> because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet Venus

> both in Rasi and Navamsa?

>

>

>

> Yenbeeyes (Bala

> Subramanian)

>

>

>

>

> , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote:

> >

> > 17.04.10

>

> >

>

> > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa:

22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

>

> >

>

> > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during

the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

>

> >

>

> > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

>

> >

>

> > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD of a

delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in the 1st

sector itself.

>

> >

>

> > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

>

> >

>

> > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and

therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or

more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

>

> >

>

> > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also

reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus

Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

>

> >

>

> > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other

factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in

1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

>

> >

>

> > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD)

generally gives unhappiness in married life.

>

> >

>

> > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary

combinations as well.

>

> > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating

quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

>

> >

>

> > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for 7th

house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

>

> >

>

> > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s

personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in

Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give

immediate effects and/or results.

>

> >

>

> > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females

developed into an affair.

>

> >

>

> > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed

that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened.

>

> >

>

> > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are

good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of

karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses

to the 2nd sector.

>

> >

>

> > Regards,

>

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

>

> > 16th

>

> > April 2010

>

> >

>

> > Dear Members.

>

> >

>

> > Predicting Marriage for a native:

>

> >

>

> > We are going

>

> > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who is

in

>

> > the marriageable age.

>

> >

>

> > The following are the birth details.

>

> > Chart is of a male member.

>

> >

>

> > Date of Birth 4th May,

>

> > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

>

> >

>

> > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

>

> > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Planet

>

> > Degrees

>

> > Nakshatra

>

> > Lord

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > As

>

> > 7 Ge 25

>

> > Ardra

>

> > Ra

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Su

>

> > 21 Ar 7

>

> > Bharani

>

> > Ve

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Mo

>

> > 26 Ta 23

>

> > Mrigashira

>

> > Ma

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > MaR

>

> > 0 Sc 36

>

> > Visakha

>

> > Ju

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > MeR

>

> > 3 Ar 39

>

> > Aswini

>

> > Ke

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > JuR

>

> > 20 Sg 12

>

> > P.Asadha

>

> > Ve

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Ve

>

> > 9 Ar 39

>

> > Aswini

>

> > Ke

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > SaR

>

> > 20 Li 17

>

> > Visakha

>

> > Ju

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Ra

>

> > 15 Ta 13

>

> > Rohini

>

> > Mo

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Ke

>

> > 15 Sc 13

>

> > Anuradha

>

> > Sa

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > The birth time of the

>

> > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the native

>

> > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > The first thing that strikes

>

> > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

>

> > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa.

While

>

> > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second

thing

>

> > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros in

SAV

>

> > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

>

> > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

>

> > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

>

> > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

>

> > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

>

> > Sun have low points.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > So when we look into

>

> > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

>

> >

>

> > From Rasi Chart:

>

> >

>

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

>

> > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

>

> >

>

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

>

> > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

>

> >

>

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

>

> > lord are again in 6:8 position.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > From Navamsa Chart:

>

> >

>

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

>

> > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

>

> >

>

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

>

> > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but

one

>

> > will try to dominate the other.

>

> >

>

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

>

> > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Now let us turn to the

>

> > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

>

> > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

>

> > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

>

> > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since

the

>

> > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

>

> > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by

>

> > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

>

> > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

>

> > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn

have

>

> > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact

>

> > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

>

> > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes

a

>

> > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points

(i.e.

>

> > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect much.

In

>

> > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

>

> > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least moderately

both

>

> > by Saturn and Jupiter.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Next is the Functional

>

> > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

>

> > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

>

> > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

>

> > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

>

> > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

>

> > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

>

> > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > The SAV points for the

>

> > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

>

> > 28.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > One more thing to be

>

> > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is having

a

>

> > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage house

is

>

> > to get some deficiency.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

>

> > to be a bed of roses.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > In this chart 4 planets

>

> > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are going

to

>

> > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by placement

or

>

> > aspect.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Now let us turn towards

>

> > timing of marriage.

>

> >

>

> > The position of Saturn

>

> > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

>

> > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

>

> > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be

over

>

> > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10

months

>

> > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and

8

>

> > months.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > There is no Jupiter

>

> > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The

native

>

> > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any

allowance

>

> > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

>

> > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

>

> > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time of

>

> > marriage is ripe now.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Now let us turn to the

>

> > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

>

> > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any

one

>

> > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who

will

>

> > be more eager to give the results.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > The current Antara that

>

> > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

>

> > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to

happen

>

> > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

>

> > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

>

> > on 21st July 2011.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Saturn is neither LoD

>

> > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

>

> > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars

having

>

> > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

>

> > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

>

> > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

>

> > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

>

> > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

>

> > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > The next Antara is that

>

> > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence no

>

> > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also

aspect

>

> > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part

of

>

> > Mercury Antara.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Uptil now, members if

>

> > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > The real question I want

>

> > to ask the members is this.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Is it possible for the

>

> > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

>

> > Antara?

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > There is a reason

>

> > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I

have

>

> > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the

timing

>

> > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on

my

>

> > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind

enough

>

> > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological magazine.

I

>

> > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

>

> > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

>

> > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also in

>

> > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of

which

>

> > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according to

Bhrigu

>

> > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

>

> > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

>

> > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

>

> > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

>

> > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I shall

be

>

> > glad to have your views on this.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Regards

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

> >

>

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Thanks Ash for you mail. In this chart, Jupiter is in Libra in navamsa. Will

its aspect on Saturn in navamsa check any delay? I assume that since Jupiter in

Libra is weak, its aspect on Saturn will not check any delay. Am I correct?

 

Nir.

 

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Nikhlesh ji,

>

> - 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come together in

navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1 so if 2

planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15 then

they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

>

> - Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is irrespective of

the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are seeing the

reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore that we

use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this

principle.

>

> Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of Sa. It

still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of Saturn.

If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for Sa will

become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will reduce

the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in the

WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > 21.04.10

> >

> > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa:

22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> >

> > Questions:

> >

> > 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship due to

aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and D-9.

> >

> > 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough

to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

> >

> >

> > Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> > I think that for the majority of the events in life

there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and

simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

> >

> > The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most important

role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa points),

Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in the

events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s personality

which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from time to

time.

> >

> > Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on the 11th

house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot be

termed as a strong check.

> >

> > Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

> >

> > Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and D-9

charts.

> >

> > Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the laws

state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love

affair.

> >

> > That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong significator Ve,

is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect of Ju is

malefic.

> >

> > The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally

prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now

also needs to be taken into account.

> >

> > Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s for

love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence of

affair.

> >

> > For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that there is

one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju in Libra

in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house lords)

trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

> >

> > The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

> >

> > If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20 degrees and

Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not there and

it is more toward 4:10 combination.

> >

> > So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong; this I am

just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would like our

Moderators to throw might on this.

> >

> > If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this facet gets

tilted towards unhappiness.

> >

> > However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping the

unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the couple

concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the exact

feeling of the partners.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Nir,

> >

> >

> >

> > The only event that I

> > could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post graduate

degree

> > from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007

through

> > Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> > the foreign country in September 2009.

> >

> >

> >

> > The reasons for not

> > considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

> > Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes, This native's

> > chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna Lord

and

> > the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

> > is a big question to be seen?

> >

> >

> >

> > Also Nikhleshji has

> > given nice explanations.

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Nikhleshji,

> >

> >

> >

> > Very good analysis.

> >

> >

> >

> > Since Saturn the delay

> > causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual (1:7)

aspect

> > between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

> > as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to the 2nd

> > sector.

> >

> >

> >

> > As regards the

> > relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

> > possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such

relationship

> > because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet Venus

> > both in Rasi and Navamsa?

> >

> >

> >

> > Yenbeeyes (Bala

> > Subramanian)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote:

> > >

> > > 17.04.10

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa:

22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during

the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD of

a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in the

1st sector itself.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and

therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or

more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also

reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus

Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

> >

> > >

> >

> > > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other

factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in

1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD)

generally gives unhappiness in married life.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary

combinations as well.

> >

> > > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating

quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for 7th

house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s

personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in

Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give

immediate effects and/or results.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females

developed into an affair.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed

that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are

good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of

karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses

to the 2nd sector.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Regards,

> >

> > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> >

> > > 16th

> >

> > > April 2010

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear Members.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > We are going

> >

> > > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who

is in

> >

> > > the marriageable age.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The following are the birth details.

> >

> > > Chart is of a male member.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Date of Birth 4th May,

> >

> > > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> >

> > > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Planet

> >

> > > Degrees

> >

> > > Nakshatra

> >

> > > Lord

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > As

> >

> > > 7 Ge 25

> >

> > > Ardra

> >

> > > Ra

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Su

> >

> > > 21 Ar 7

> >

> > > Bharani

> >

> > > Ve

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Mo

> >

> > > 26 Ta 23

> >

> > > Mrigashira

> >

> > > Ma

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > MaR

> >

> > > 0 Sc 36

> >

> > > Visakha

> >

> > > Ju

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > MeR

> >

> > > 3 Ar 39

> >

> > > Aswini

> >

> > > Ke

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > JuR

> >

> > > 20 Sg 12

> >

> > > P.Asadha

> >

> > > Ve

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Ve

> >

> > > 9 Ar 39

> >

> > > Aswini

> >

> > > Ke

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > SaR

> >

> > > 20 Li 17

> >

> > > Visakha

> >

> > > Ju

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Ra

> >

> > > 15 Ta 13

> >

> > > Rohini

> >

> > > Mo

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Ke

> >

> > > 15 Sc 13

> >

> > > Anuradha

> >

> > > Sa

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The birth time of the

> >

> > > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the

native

> >

> > > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The first thing that strikes

> >

> > > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

> >

> > > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa.

While

> >

> > > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second

thing

> >

> > > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros

in SAV

> >

> > > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

> >

> > > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

> >

> > > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

> >

> > > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> >

> > > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

> >

> > > Sun have low points.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > So when we look into

> >

> > > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > From Rasi Chart:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> >

> > > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> >

> > > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> >

> > > lord are again in 6:8 position.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > From Navamsa Chart:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> >

> > > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> >

> > > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but

one

> >

> > > will try to dominate the other.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> >

> > > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Now let us turn to the

> >

> > > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

> >

> > > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

> >

> > > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

> >

> > > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since

the

> >

> > > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

> >

> > > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented

by

> >

> > > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

> >

> > > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

> >

> > > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn

have

> >

> > > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the

fact

> >

> > > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

> >

> > > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house

becomes a

> >

> > > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points

(i.e.

> >

> > > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect

much. In

> >

> > > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi

and

> >

> > > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least

moderately both

> >

> > > by Saturn and Jupiter.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Next is the Functional

> >

> > > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

> >

> > > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

> >

> > > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

> >

> > > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

> >

> > > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

> >

> > > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

> >

> > > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The SAV points for the

> >

> > > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> >

> > > 28.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > One more thing to be

> >

> > > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is

having a

> >

> > > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage

house is

> >

> > > to get some deficiency.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

> >

> > > to be a bed of roses.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In this chart 4 planets

> >

> > > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are

going to

> >

> > > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by

placement or

> >

> > > aspect.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Now let us turn towards

> >

> > > timing of marriage.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The position of Saturn

> >

> > > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

> >

> > > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the

delay.

> >

> > > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be

over

> >

> > > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10

months

> >

> > > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years

and 8

> >

> > > months.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > There is no Jupiter

> >

> > > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The

native

> >

> > > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any

allowance

> >

> > > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes

after

> >

> > > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say

the

> >

> > > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time

of

> >

> > > marriage is ripe now.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Now let us turn to the

> >

> > > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

> >

> > > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So

any one

> >

> > > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who

will

> >

> > > be more eager to give the results.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The current Antara that

> >

> > > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

> >

> > > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to

happen

> >

> > > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> >

> > > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> >

> > > on 21st July 2011.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Saturn is neither LoD

> >

> > > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

> >

> > > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars

having

> >

> > > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

> >

> > > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed

in

> >

> > > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> >

> > > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

> >

> > > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

> >

> > > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The next Antara is that

> >

> > > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence

no

> >

> > > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also

aspect

> >

> > > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part

of

> >

> > > Mercury Antara.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Uptil now, members if

> >

> > > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The real question I want

> >

> > > to ask the members is this.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Is it possible for the

> >

> > > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> >

> > > Antara?

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > There is a reason

> >

> > > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I

have

> >

> > > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the

timing

> >

> > > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing

on my

> >

> > > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind

enough

> >

> > > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological

magazine. I

> >

> > > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are

all

> >

> > > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for

the

> >

> > > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also

in

> >

> > > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of

which

> >

> > > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according

to Bhrigu

> >

> > > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

> >

> > > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

> >

> > > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

> >

> > > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

> >

> > > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I

shall be

> >

> > > glad to have your views on this.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Regards

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

> > >

> >

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Dear Nir,

 

Just think over this more carefully. What are the condition under which Ju

cannot check the delay of Saturn?

 

When Ju is in

 

- Sign of Sa (own sign and MT)

- Nak of Sa

- Navamsa of Sa

- Ju is in Libra

 

Now, what is special about libra for Ju not being able to check the delay...

 

Think and let me know.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

>

> Thanks Ash for you mail. In this chart, Jupiter is in Libra in navamsa. Will

its aspect on Saturn in navamsa check any delay? I assume that since Jupiter in

Libra is weak, its aspect on Saturn will not check any delay. Am I correct?

>

> Nir.

>

> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> >

> > - 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come together in

navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1 so if 2

planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15 then

they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

> >

> > - Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is irrespective of

the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are seeing the

reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore that we

use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this

principle.

> >

> > Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of Sa. It

still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of Saturn.

If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for Sa will

become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will reduce

the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in the

WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > 21.04.10

> > >

> > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa:

22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > >

> > > Questions:

> > >

> > > 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship due to

aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and D-9.

> > >

> > > 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position

enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> > > I think that for the majority of the events in life

there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and

simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

> > >

> > > The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most important

role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa points),

Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in the

events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s personality

which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from time to

time.

> > >

> > > Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on the

11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot be

termed as a strong check.

> > >

> > > Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

> > >

> > > Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and D-9

charts.

> > >

> > > Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the laws

state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love

affair.

> > >

> > > That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong significator Ve,

is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect of Ju is

malefic.

> > >

> > > The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally

prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now

also needs to be taken into account.

> > >

> > > Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s for

love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence of

affair.

> > >

> > > For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that there

is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju in

Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house

lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

> > >

> > > The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

> > >

> > > If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20 degrees and

Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not there and

it is more toward 4:10 combination.

> > >

> > > So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong; this I

am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would like our

Moderators to throw might on this.

> > >

> > > If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this facet

gets tilted towards unhappiness.

> > >

> > > However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping the

unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the couple

concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the exact

feeling of the partners.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Nir,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The only event that I

> > > could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post graduate

degree

> > > from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007

through

> > > Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> > > the foreign country in September 2009.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The reasons for not

> > > considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

> > > Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes, This native's

> > > chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna

Lord and

> > > the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

> > > is a big question to be seen?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Also Nikhleshji has

> > > given nice explanations.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Nikhleshji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Very good analysis.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Since Saturn the delay

> > > causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual (1:7)

aspect

> > > between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

> > > as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to the

2nd

> > > sector.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > As regards the

> > > relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

> > > possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such

relationship

> > > because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet

Venus

> > > both in Rasi and Navamsa?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yenbeeyes (Bala

> > > Subramanian)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > 17.04.10

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa:

22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen

during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD

of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in

the 1st sector itself.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and

therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or

more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also

reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus

Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other

factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in

1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD)

generally gives unhappiness in married life.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other

planetary combinations as well.

> > >

> > > > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating

quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for

7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s

personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in

Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give

immediate effects and/or results.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with

females developed into an affair.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed

that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are

good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of

karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses

to the 2nd sector.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Regards,

> > >

> > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

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> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> > >

> > > > 16th

> > >

> > > > April 2010

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Dear Members.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > We are going

> > >

> > > > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native

who is in

> > >

> > > > the marriageable age.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > The following are the birth details.

> > >

> > > > Chart is of a male member.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Date of Birth 4th May,

> > >

> > > > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> > >

> > > > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Planet

> > >

> > > > Degrees

> > >

> > > > Nakshatra

> > >

> > > > Lord

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > As

> > >

> > > > 7 Ge 25

> > >

> > > > Ardra

> > >

> > > > Ra

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Su

> > >

> > > > 21 Ar 7

> > >

> > > > Bharani

> > >

> > > > Ve

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Mo

> > >

> > > > 26 Ta 23

> > >

> > > > Mrigashira

> > >

> > > > Ma

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > MaR

> > >

> > > > 0 Sc 36

> > >

> > > > Visakha

> > >

> > > > Ju

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > MeR

> > >

> > > > 3 Ar 39

> > >

> > > > Aswini

> > >

> > > > Ke

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > JuR

> > >

> > > > 20 Sg 12

> > >

> > > > P.Asadha

> > >

> > > > Ve

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Ve

> > >

> > > > 9 Ar 39

> > >

> > > > Aswini

> > >

> > > > Ke

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > SaR

> > >

> > > > 20 Li 17

> > >

> > > > Visakha

> > >

> > > > Ju

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Ra

> > >

> > > > 15 Ta 13

> > >

> > > > Rohini

> > >

> > > > Mo

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Ke

> > >

> > > > 15 Sc 13

> > >

> > > > Anuradha

> > >

> > > > Sa

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > The birth time of the

> > >

> > > > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the

native

> > >

> > > > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job

placement.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > The first thing that strikes

> > >

> > > > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

> > >

> > > > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa.

While

> > >

> > > > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second

thing

> > >

> > > > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros

in SAV

> > >

> > > > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than

43

> > >

> > > > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

> > >

> > > > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

> > >

> > > > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> > >

> > > > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

> > >

> > > > Sun have low points.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > So when we look into

> > >

> > > > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > From Rasi Chart:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > >

> > > > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > >

> > > > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > >

> > > > lord are again in 6:8 position.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > From Navamsa Chart:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > >

> > > > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > >

> > > > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate

but one

> > >

> > > > will try to dominate the other.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > >

> > > > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be

tolerable.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Now let us turn to the

> > >

> > > > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

> > >

> > > > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is

not

> > >

> > > > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by

Jupiter(malefic

> > >

> > > > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here

since the

> > >

> > > > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets

spoiled.

> > >

> > > > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented

by

> > >

> > > > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

> > >

> > > > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken

into

> > >

> > > > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and

Saturn have

> > >

> > > > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the

fact

> > >

> > > > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

> > >

> > > > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house

becomes a

> > >

> > > > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more

points (i.e.

> > >

> > > > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect

much. In

> > >

> > > > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi

and

> > >

> > > > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least

moderately both

> > >

> > > > by Saturn and Jupiter.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Next is the Functional

> > >

> > > > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

> > >

> > > > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

> > >

> > > > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

> > >

> > > > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

> > >

> > > > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

> > >

> > > > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

> > >

> > > > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > The SAV points for the

> > >

> > > > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> > >

> > > > 28.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > One more thing to be

> > >

> > > > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is

having a

> > >

> > > > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage

house is

> > >

> > > > to get some deficiency.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

> > >

> > > > to be a bed of roses.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > In this chart 4 planets

> > >

> > > > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are

going to

> > >

> > > > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by

placement or

> > >

> > > > aspect.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Now let us turn towards

> > >

> > > > timing of marriage.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > The position of Saturn

> > >

> > > > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

> > >

> > > > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the

delay.

> > >

> > > > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to

be over

> > >

> > > > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10

months

> > >

> > > > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years

and 8

> > >

> > > > months.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > There is no Jupiter

> > >

> > > > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The

native

> > >

> > > > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any

allowance

> > >

> > > > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes

after

> > >

> > > > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say

the

> > >

> > > > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for

time of

> > >

> > > > marriage is ripe now.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Now let us turn to the

> > >

> > > > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

> > >

> > > > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So

any one

> > >

> > > > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus

who will

> > >

> > > > be more eager to give the results.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > The current Antara that

> > >

> > > > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

> > >

> > > > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to

happen

> > >

> > > > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> > >

> > > > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> > >

> > > > on 21st July 2011.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Saturn is neither LoD

> > >

> > > > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

> > >

> > > > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars

having

> > >

> > > > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of

6th.

> > >

> > > > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is

placed in

> > >

> > > > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> > >

> > > > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

> > >

> > > > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the

significating

> > >

> > > > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > The next Antara is that

> > >

> > > > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence

no

> > >

> > > > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also

aspect

> > >

> > > > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first

part of

> > >

> > > > Mercury Antara.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Uptil now, members if

> > >

> > > > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > The real question I want

> > >

> > > > to ask the members is this.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Is it possible for the

> > >

> > > > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> > >

> > > > Antara?

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > There is a reason

> > >

> > > > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now.

I have

> > >

> > > > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the

timing

> > >

> > > > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate

writing on my

> > >

> > > > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind

enough

> > >

> > > > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological

magazine. I

> > >

> > > > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are

all

> > >

> > > > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for

the

> > >

> > > > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different.

Also in

> > >

> > > > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of

which

> > >

> > > > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case

according to Bhrigu

> > >

> > > > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

> > >

> > > > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

> > >

> > > > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts

I

> > >

> > > > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

> > >

> > > > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I

shall be

> > >

> > > > glad to have your views on this.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Regards

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

> > > >

> > >

> >

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In an Aries lagna chart (kalpurush chart), Jupiter as a lord of 12th placed in

Libra will be in 8th house from 12th. It will loose its karakatwa (I think this

is the right word!), and as such will become weak.

 

Nir.

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Nir,

>

> Just think over this more carefully. What are the condition under which Ju

cannot check the delay of Saturn?

>

> When Ju is in

>

> - Sign of Sa (own sign and MT)

> - Nak of Sa

> - Navamsa of Sa

> - Ju is in Libra

>

> Now, what is special about libra for Ju not being able to check the delay...

>

> Think and let me know.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks Ash for you mail. In this chart, Jupiter is in Libra in navamsa.

Will its aspect on Saturn in navamsa check any delay? I assume that since

Jupiter in Libra is weak, its aspect on Saturn will not check any delay. Am I

correct?

> >

> > Nir.

> >

> > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > >

> > > - 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come together

in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1 so if 2

planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15 then

they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

> > >

> > > - Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is irrespective

of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are seeing the

reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore that we

use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this

principle.

> > >

> > > Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of Sa. It

still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of Saturn.

If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for Sa will

become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will reduce

the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in the

WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 21.04.10

> > > >

> > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa:

22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > >

> > > > Questions:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship due

to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and D-9.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position

enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> > > > I think that for the majority of the events in

life there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and

simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

> > > >

> > > > The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most important

role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa points),

Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in the

events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s personality

which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from time to

time.

> > > >

> > > > Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on the

11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot be

termed as a strong check.

> > > >

> > > > Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

> > > >

> > > > Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and D-9

charts.

> > > >

> > > > Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the laws

state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love

affair.

> > > >

> > > > That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong significator

Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect of Ju is

malefic.

> > > >

> > > > The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally

prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now

also needs to be taken into account.

> > > >

> > > > Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s for

love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence of

affair.

> > > >

> > > > For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that there

is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju in

Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house

lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

> > > >

> > > > The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

> > > >

> > > > If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20 degrees

and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not there

and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

> > > >

> > > > So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong; this

I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would like our

Moderators to throw might on this.

> > > >

> > > > If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this facet

gets tilted towards unhappiness.

> > > >

> > > > However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping the

unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the couple

concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the exact

feeling of the partners.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nir,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The only event that I

> > > > could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post graduate

degree

> > > > from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007

through

> > > > Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> > > > the foreign country in September 2009.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The reasons for not

> > > > considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

> > > > Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yes, This native's

> > > > chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna

Lord and

> > > > the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

> > > > is a big question to be seen?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Also Nikhleshji has

> > > > given nice explanations.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nikhleshji,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Very good analysis.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Since Saturn the delay

> > > > causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual (1:7)

aspect

> > > > between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

> > > > as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to the

2nd

> > > > sector.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As regards the

> > > > relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

> > > > possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such

relationship

> > > > because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet

Venus

> > > > both in Rasi and Navamsa?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yenbeeyes (Bala

> > > > Subramanian)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > 17.04.10

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa:

22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen

during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD

of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in

the 1st sector itself.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and

therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or

more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also

reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus

Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with

other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give

event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing

planet).

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet

AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other

planetary combinations as well.

> > > >

> > > > > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating

quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for

7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the

native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect

(The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends

to give immediate effects and/or results.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with

females developed into an affair.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is

observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already

happened.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there

are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the

affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit

which crosses to the 2nd sector.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> > > >

> > > > > 16th

> > > >

> > > > > April 2010

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Members.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > We are going

> > > >

> > > > > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native

who is in

> > > >

> > > > > the marriageable age.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The following are the birth details.

> > > >

> > > > > Chart is of a male member.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Date of Birth 4th May,

> > > >

> > > > > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> > > >

> > > > > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Planet

> > > >

> > > > > Degrees

> > > >

> > > > > Nakshatra

> > > >

> > > > > Lord

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > As

> > > >

> > > > > 7 Ge 25

> > > >

> > > > > Ardra

> > > >

> > > > > Ra

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Su

> > > >

> > > > > 21 Ar 7

> > > >

> > > > > Bharani

> > > >

> > > > > Ve

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Mo

> > > >

> > > > > 26 Ta 23

> > > >

> > > > > Mrigashira

> > > >

> > > > > Ma

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > MaR

> > > >

> > > > > 0 Sc 36

> > > >

> > > > > Visakha

> > > >

> > > > > Ju

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > MeR

> > > >

> > > > > 3 Ar 39

> > > >

> > > > > Aswini

> > > >

> > > > > Ke

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > JuR

> > > >

> > > > > 20 Sg 12

> > > >

> > > > > P.Asadha

> > > >

> > > > > Ve

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Ve

> > > >

> > > > > 9 Ar 39

> > > >

> > > > > Aswini

> > > >

> > > > > Ke

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > SaR

> > > >

> > > > > 20 Li 17

> > > >

> > > > > Visakha

> > > >

> > > > > Ju

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Ra

> > > >

> > > > > 15 Ta 13

> > > >

> > > > > Rohini

> > > >

> > > > > Mo

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Ke

> > > >

> > > > > 15 Sc 13

> > > >

> > > > > Anuradha

> > > >

> > > > > Sa

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The birth time of the

> > > >

> > > > > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the

native

> > > >

> > > > > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job

placement.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The first thing that strikes

> > > >

> > > > > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

> > > >

> > > > > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra

Navamsa. While

> > > >

> > > > > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the

second thing

> > > >

> > > > > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no

zeros in SAV

> > > >

> > > > > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater

than 43

> > > >

> > > > > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is

not

> > > >

> > > > > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

> > > >

> > > > > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> > > >

> > > > > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

> > > >

> > > > > Sun have low points.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > So when we look into

> > > >

> > > > > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > From Rasi Chart:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > >

> > > > > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > >

> > > > > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > >

> > > > > lord are again in 6:8 position.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > From Navamsa Chart:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > >

> > > > > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > >

> > > > > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate

but one

> > > >

> > > > > will try to dominate the other.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > >

> > > > > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be

tolerable.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > >

> > > > > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury.

The

> > > >

> > > > > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is

not

> > > >

> > > > > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by

Jupiter(malefic

> > > >

> > > > > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here

since the

> > > >

> > > > > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets

spoiled.

> > > >

> > > > > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally

represented by

> > > >

> > > > > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

> > > >

> > > > > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken

into

> > > >

> > > > > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and

Saturn have

> > > >

> > > > > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the

fact

> > > >

> > > > > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

> > > >

> > > > > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house

becomes a

> > > >

> > > > > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more

points (i.e.

> > > >

> > > > > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect

much. In

> > > >

> > > > > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both

Rasi and

> > > >

> > > > > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least

moderately both

> > > >

> > > > > by Saturn and Jupiter.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Next is the Functional

> > > >

> > > > > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the

12th,

> > > >

> > > > > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

> > > >

> > > > > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

> > > >

> > > > > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the

12th

> > > >

> > > > > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

> > > >

> > > > > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude

that

> > > >

> > > > > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The SAV points for the

> > > >

> > > > > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> > > >

> > > > > 28.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > One more thing to be

> > > >

> > > > > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is

having a

> > > >

> > > > > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage

house is

> > > >

> > > > > to get some deficiency.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

> > > >

> > > > > to be a bed of roses.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > In this chart 4 planets

> > > >

> > > > > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are

going to

> > > >

> > > > > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by

placement or

> > > >

> > > > > aspect.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Now let us turn towards

> > > >

> > > > > timing of marriage.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The position of Saturn

> > > >

> > > > > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

> > > >

> > > > > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the

delay.

> > > >

> > > > > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to

be over

> > > >

> > > > > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10

months

> > > >

> > > > > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26

Years and 8

> > > >

> > > > > months.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > There is no Jupiter

> > > >

> > > > > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The

native

> > > >

> > > > > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any

allowance

> > > >

> > > > > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes

after

> > > >

> > > > > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter

say the

> > > >

> > > > > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for

time of

> > > >

> > > > > marriage is ripe now.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > >

> > > > > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

> > > >

> > > > > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively.

So any one

> > > >

> > > > > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus

who will

> > > >

> > > > > be more eager to give the results.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The current Antara that

> > > >

> > > > > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

> > > >

> > > > > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely

to happen

> > > >

> > > > > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> > > >

> > > > > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> > > >

> > > > > on 21st July 2011.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Saturn is neither LoD

> > > >

> > > > > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

> > > >

> > > > > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars.

Mars having

> > > >

> > > > > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of

6th.

> > > >

> > > > > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is

placed in

> > > >

> > > > > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> > > >

> > > > > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

> > > >

> > > > > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the

significating

> > > >

> > > > > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The next Antara is that

> > > >

> > > > > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet.

Hence no

> > > >

> > > > > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also

aspect

> > > >

> > > > > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first

part of

> > > >

> > > > > Mercury Antara.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Uptil now, members if

> > > >

> > > > > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The real question I want

> > > >

> > > > > to ask the members is this.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Is it possible for the

> > > >

> > > > > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> > > >

> > > > > Antara?

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > There is a reason

> > > >

> > > > > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself

now. I have

> > > >

> > > > > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the

timing

> > > >

> > > > > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate

writing on my

> > > >

> > > > > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were

kind enough

> > > >

> > > > > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological

magazine. I

> > > >

> > > > > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they

are all

> > > >

> > > > > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons

for the

> > > >

> > > > > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different.

Also in

> > > >

> > > > > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories

of which

> > > >

> > > > > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case

according to Bhrigu

> > > >

> > > > > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

> > > >

> > > > > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

> > > >

> > > > > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many

charts I

> > > >

> > > > > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

> > > >

> > > > > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I

shall be

> > > >

> > > > > glad to have your views on this.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

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That is fine, however its not what I was looking for.

 

I have given you hint in my mail as well. Think more over it and let me know.

 

Go with the basic. The answer or the hint is in my earlier mail.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

>

>

> In an Aries lagna chart (kalpurush chart), Jupiter as a lord of 12th placed in

Libra will be in 8th house from 12th. It will loose its karakatwa (I think this

is the right word!), and as such will become weak.

>

> Nir.

> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nir,

> >

> > Just think over this more carefully. What are the condition under which Ju

cannot check the delay of Saturn?

> >

> > When Ju is in

> >

> > - Sign of Sa (own sign and MT)

> > - Nak of Sa

> > - Navamsa of Sa

> > - Ju is in Libra

> >

> > Now, what is special about libra for Ju not being able to check the delay...

> >

> > Think and let me know.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> >

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks Ash for you mail. In this chart, Jupiter is in Libra in navamsa.

Will its aspect on Saturn in navamsa check any delay? I assume that since

Jupiter in Libra is weak, its aspect on Saturn will not check any delay. Am I

correct?

> > >

> > > Nir.

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > >

> > > > - 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come together

in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1 so if 2

planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15 then

they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

> > > >

> > > > - Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is irrespective

of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are seeing the

reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore that we

use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this

principle.

> > > >

> > > > Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of Sa.

It still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of Saturn.

If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for Sa will

become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will reduce

the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in the

WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 21.04.10

> > > > >

> > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > >

> > > > > Questions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship

due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and

D-9.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position

enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> > > > > I think that for the majority of the events in

life there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and

simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

> > > > >

> > > > > The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most

important role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa

points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in

the events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s

personality which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from

time to time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on the

11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot be

termed as a strong check.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and

D-9 charts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the

laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love

affair.

> > > > >

> > > > > That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong significator

Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect of Ju is

malefic.

> > > > >

> > > > > The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally

prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now

also needs to be taken into account.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s

for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence

of affair.

> > > > >

> > > > > For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that

there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju

in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house

lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

> > > > >

> > > > > The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

> > > > >

> > > > > If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20 degrees

and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not there

and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

> > > > >

> > > > > So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong;

this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would

like our Moderators to throw might on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this facet

gets tilted towards unhappiness.

> > > > >

> > > > > However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping the

unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the couple

concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the exact

feeling of the partners.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Nir,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The only event that I

> > > > > could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post

graduate degree

> > > > > from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007

through

> > > > > Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> > > > > the foreign country in September 2009.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The reasons for not

> > > > > considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

> > > > > Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, This native's

> > > > > chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna

Lord and

> > > > > the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

> > > > > is a big question to be seen?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Also Nikhleshji has

> > > > > given nice explanations.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Nikhleshji,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Very good analysis.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Since Saturn the delay

> > > > > causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual

(1:7) aspect

> > > > > between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

> > > > > as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to

the 2nd

> > > > > sector.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > As regards the

> > > > > relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

> > > > > possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such

relationship

> > > > > because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet

Venus

> > > > > both in Rasi and Navamsa?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Yenbeeyes (Bala

> > > > > Subramanian)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 17.04.10

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen

during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the

AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in

the 1st sector itself.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept

2010.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and

therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or

more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also

reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus

Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with

other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give

event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing

planet).

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet

AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other

planetary combinations as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating

quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger

for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the

native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect

(The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends

to give immediate effects and/or results.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with

females developed into an affair.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is

observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already

happened.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there

are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the

affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit

which crosses to the 2nd sector.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

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> > > > >

> > > > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> > > > >

> > > > > > 16th

> > > > >

> > > > > > April 2010

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > We are going

> > > > >

> > > > > > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male

native who is in

> > > > >

> > > > > > the marriageable age.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > The following are the birth details.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Chart is of a male member.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Date of Birth 4th May,

> > > > >

> > > > > > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Planet

> > > > >

> > > > > > Degrees

> > > > >

> > > > > > Nakshatra

> > > > >

> > > > > > Lord

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > As

> > > > >

> > > > > > 7 Ge 25

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ardra

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ra

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Su

> > > > >

> > > > > > 21 Ar 7

> > > > >

> > > > > > Bharani

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ve

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Mo

> > > > >

> > > > > > 26 Ta 23

> > > > >

> > > > > > Mrigashira

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ma

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > MaR

> > > > >

> > > > > > 0 Sc 36

> > > > >

> > > > > > Visakha

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ju

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > MeR

> > > > >

> > > > > > 3 Ar 39

> > > > >

> > > > > > Aswini

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ke

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > JuR

> > > > >

> > > > > > 20 Sg 12

> > > > >

> > > > > > P.Asadha

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ve

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ve

> > > > >

> > > > > > 9 Ar 39

> > > > >

> > > > > > Aswini

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ke

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > SaR

> > > > >

> > > > > > 20 Li 17

> > > > >

> > > > > > Visakha

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ju

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ra

> > > > >

> > > > > > 15 Ta 13

> > > > >

> > > > > > Rohini

> > > > >

> > > > > > Mo

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ke

> > > > >

> > > > > > 15 Sc 13

> > > > >

> > > > > > Anuradha

> > > > >

> > > > > > Sa

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > The birth time of the

> > > > >

> > > > > > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when

the native

> > > > >

> > > > > > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job

placement.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > The first thing that strikes

> > > > >

> > > > > > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

> > > > >

> > > > > > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra

Navamsa. While

> > > > >

> > > > > > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the

second thing

> > > > >

> > > > > > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no

zeros in SAV

> > > > >

> > > > > > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater

than 43

> > > > >

> > > > > > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is

not

> > > > >

> > > > > > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the

5th

> > > > >

> > > > > > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> > > > >

> > > > > > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

> > > > >

> > > > > > Sun have low points.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > So when we look into

> > > > >

> > > > > > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > From Rasi Chart:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > >

> > > > > > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > >

> > > > > > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > >

> > > > > > lord are again in 6:8 position.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > From Navamsa Chart:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > >

> > > > > > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > >

> > > > > > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be

moderate but one

> > > > >

> > > > > > will try to dominate the other.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > >

> > > > > > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be

tolerable.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > >

> > > > > > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury.

The

> > > > >

> > > > > > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it

is not

> > > > >

> > > > > > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by

Jupiter(malefic

> > > > >

> > > > > > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here

since the

> > > > >

> > > > > > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets

spoiled.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally

represented by

> > > > >

> > > > > > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

> > > > >

> > > > > > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken

into

> > > > >

> > > > > > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and

Saturn have

> > > > >

> > > > > > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for

the fact

> > > > >

> > > > > > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

> > > > >

> > > > > > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house

becomes a

> > > > >

> > > > > > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more

points (i.e.

> > > > >

> > > > > > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going

affect much. In

> > > > >

> > > > > > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both

Rasi and

> > > > >

> > > > > > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least

moderately both

> > > > >

> > > > > > by Saturn and Jupiter.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Next is the Functional

> > > > >

> > > > > > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the

12th,

> > > > >

> > > > > > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

> > > > >

> > > > > > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in

whose

> > > > >

> > > > > > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the

12th

> > > > >

> > > > > > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

> > > > >

> > > > > > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude

that

> > > > >

> > > > > > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > The SAV points for the

> > > > >

> > > > > > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> > > > >

> > > > > > 28.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > One more thing to be

> > > > >

> > > > > > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury

is having a

> > > > >

> > > > > > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz.

marriage house is

> > > > >

> > > > > > to get some deficiency.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

> > > > >

> > > > > > to be a bed of roses.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > In this chart 4 planets

> > > > >

> > > > > > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these

are going to

> > > > >

> > > > > > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by

placement or

> > > > >

> > > > > > aspect.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Now let us turn towards

> > > > >

> > > > > > timing of marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > The position of Saturn

> > > > >

> > > > > > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

> > > > >

> > > > > > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the

delay.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay

to be over

> > > > >

> > > > > > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately

10 months

> > > > >

> > > > > > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26

Years and 8

> > > > >

> > > > > > months.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > There is no Jupiter

> > > > >

> > > > > > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible.

The native

> > > > >

> > > > > > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any

allowance

> > > > >

> > > > > > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age

comes after

> > > > >

> > > > > > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter

say the

> > > > >

> > > > > > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for

time of

> > > > >

> > > > > > marriage is ripe now.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > >

> > > > > > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

> > > > >

> > > > > > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively.

So any one

> > > > >

> > > > > > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is

Venus who will

> > > > >

> > > > > > be more eager to give the results.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > The current Antara that

> > > > >

> > > > > > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

> > > > >

> > > > > > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely

to happen

> > > > >

> > > > > > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> > > > >

> > > > > > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> > > > >

> > > > > > on 21st July 2011.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Saturn is neither LoD

> > > > >

> > > > > > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

> > > > >

> > > > > > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars.

Mars having

> > > > >

> > > > > > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord

of 6th.

> > > > >

> > > > > > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is

placed in

> > > > >

> > > > > > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> > > > >

> > > > > > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

> > > > >

> > > > > > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the

significating

> > > > >

> > > > > > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub

period.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > The next Antara is that

> > > > >

> > > > > > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet.

Hence no

> > > > >

> > > > > > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not

also aspect

> > > > >

> > > > > > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the

first part of

> > > > >

> > > > > > Mercury Antara.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Uptil now, members if

> > > > >

> > > > > > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > The real question I want

> > > > >

> > > > > > to ask the members is this.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Is it possible for the

> > > > >

> > > > > > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> > > > >

> > > > > > Antara?

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > There is a reason

> > > > >

> > > > > > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself

now. I have

> > > > >

> > > > > > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed

the timing

> > > > >

> > > > > > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate

writing on my

> > > > >

> > > > > > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were

kind enough

> > > > >

> > > > > > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological

magazine. I

> > > > >

> > > > > > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they

are all

> > > > >

> > > > > > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons

for the

> > > > >

> > > > > > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different.

Also in

> > > > >

> > > > > > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories

of which

> > > > >

> > > > > > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case

according to Bhrigu

> > > > >

> > > > > > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

> > > > >

> > > > > > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

> > > > >

> > > > > > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many

charts I

> > > > >

> > > > > > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system

of

> > > > >

> > > > > > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis?

I shall be

> > > > >

> > > > > > glad to have your views on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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No idea. Are you hinting at Venus and Saturn being natural samdharmi. And, if

Jupiter is in Libra, there is 4:10 relation with Capricorn and 5:9 with

Aquirius?

 

Nir.

 

 

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> That is fine, however its not what I was looking for.

>

> I have given you hint in my mail as well. Think more over it and let me know.

>

> Go with the basic. The answer or the hint is in my earlier mail.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > In an Aries lagna chart (kalpurush chart), Jupiter as a lord of 12th placed

in Libra will be in 8th house from 12th. It will loose its karakatwa (I think

this is the right word!), and as such will become weak.

> >

> > Nir.

> > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Nir,

> > >

> > > Just think over this more carefully. What are the condition under which

Ju cannot check the delay of Saturn?

> > >

> > > When Ju is in

> > >

> > > - Sign of Sa (own sign and MT)

> > > - Nak of Sa

> > > - Navamsa of Sa

> > > - Ju is in Libra

> > >

> > > Now, what is special about libra for Ju not being able to check the

delay...

> > >

> > > Think and let me know.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Ash for you mail. In this chart, Jupiter is in Libra in navamsa.

Will its aspect on Saturn in navamsa check any delay? I assume that since

Jupiter in Libra is weak, its aspect on Saturn will not check any delay. Am I

correct?

> > > >

> > > > Nir.

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > - 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come

together in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or

1:1 so if 2 planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer

than 15 then they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very

specific.

> > > > >

> > > > > - Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is

irrespective of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are

seeing the reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore

that we use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this

principle.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of Sa.

It still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of Saturn.

If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for Sa will

become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will reduce

the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in the

WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 21.04.10

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Questions:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship

due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and

D-9.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9

position enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> > > > > > I think that for the majority of the events

in life there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and

simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most

important role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa

points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in

the events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s

personality which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from

time to time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on

the 11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot

be termed as a strong check.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and

D-9 charts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the

laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love

affair.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong

significator Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect

of Ju is malefic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally

prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now

also needs to be taken into account.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s

for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence

of affair.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that

there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju

in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house

lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20

degrees and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not

there and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong;

this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would

like our Moderators to throw might on this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this

facet gets tilted towards unhappiness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping

the unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the

couple concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the

exact feeling of the partners.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Nir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The only event that I

> > > > > > could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post

graduate degree

> > > > > > from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August

2007 through

> > > > > > Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> > > > > > the foreign country in September 2009.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The reasons for not

> > > > > > considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

> > > > > > Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, This native's

> > > > > > chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of

Lagna Lord and

> > > > > > the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

> > > > > > is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also Nikhleshji has

> > > > > > given nice explanations.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Nikhleshji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Very good analysis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since Saturn the delay

> > > > > > causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual

(1:7) aspect

> > > > > > between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

> > > > > > as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to

the 2nd

> > > > > > sector.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As regards the

> > > > > > relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also

a

> > > > > > possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such

relationship

> > > > > > because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator

planet Venus

> > > > > > both in Rasi and Navamsa?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Bala

> > > > > > Subramanian)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 17.04.10

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to

happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when

the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the

event in the 1st sector itself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept

2010.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C

and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or

more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also

reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus

Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with

other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give

event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing

planet).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power

planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other

planetary combinations as well.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for

evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger

for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the

native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect

(The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends

to give immediate effects and/or results.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with

females developed into an affair.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is

observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already

happened.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and

there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the

affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit

which crosses to the 2nd sector.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 16th

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > April 2010

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Members.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > We are going

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male

native who is in

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > the marriageable age.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The following are the birth details.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Chart is of a male member.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Date of Birth 4th May,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Planet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Degrees

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nakshatra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > As

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 7 Ge 25

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ardra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Su

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 21 Ar 7

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bharani

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 26 Ta 23

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mrigashira

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ma

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > MaR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 0 Sc 36

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Visakha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > MeR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3 Ar 39

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > JuR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 20 Sg 12

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > P.Asadha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 9 Ar 39

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > SaR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 20 Li 17

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Visakha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 15 Ta 13

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohini

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 15 Sc 13

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anuradha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sa

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The birth time of the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when

the native

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job

placement.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The first thing that strikes

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house

in

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra

Navamsa. While

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the

second thing

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no

zeros in SAV

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater

than 43

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage

is not

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the

5th

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun have low points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > So when we look into

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From Rasi Chart:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > lord are again in 6:8 position.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From Navamsa Chart:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be

moderate but one

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > will try to dominate the other.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be

tolerable.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and

Mercury. The

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence

it is not

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by

Jupiter(malefic

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but

here since the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets

spoiled.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally

represented by

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not

taken into

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and

Saturn have

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for

the fact

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic

house becomes a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more

points (i.e.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going

affect much. In

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in

both Rasi and

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least

moderately both

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > by Saturn and Jupiter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Next is the Functional

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the

12th,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in

whose

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for

the 12th

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of

6th

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can

conclude that

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The SAV points for the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 28.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > One more thing to be

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury

is having a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz.

marriage house is

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > to get some deficiency.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > to be a bed of roses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > In this chart 4 planets

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these

are going to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by

placement or

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > aspect.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now let us turn towards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > timing of marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The position of Saturn

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full

delay.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate

the delay.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the

delay to be over

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting

approximately 10 months

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26

Years and 8

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > months.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > There is no Jupiter

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible.

The native

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give

any allowance

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age

comes after

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by

Jupiter say the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period

for time of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > marriage is ripe now.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12

respectively. So any one

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is

Venus who will

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > be more eager to give the results.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The current Antara that

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009

to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is

likely to happen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > on 21st July 2011.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Saturn is neither LoD

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house.

Mars

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars.

Mars having

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord

of 6th.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is

placed in

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the

significating

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub

period.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The next Antara is that

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet.

Hence no

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not

also aspect

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the

first part of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mercury Antara.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Uptil now, members if

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The real question I want

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > to ask the members is this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Is it possible for the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Antara?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > There is a reason

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself

now. I have

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed

the timing

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate

writing on my

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were

kind enough

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological

magazine. I

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But

they are all

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper

reasons for the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is

different. Also in

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other

theories of which

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case

according to Bhrigu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many

charts I

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another

system of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my

analysis? I shall be

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > glad to have your views on this.

> > > > > >

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> > > > > >

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

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hmmm... ok.. I shall wait for other members to think over it.

 

Take some more time and think over it. I know you will get it.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

>

> No idea. Are you hinting at Venus and Saturn being natural samdharmi. And,

if Jupiter is in Libra, there is 4:10 relation with Capricorn and 5:9 with

Aquirius?

>

> Nir.

>

>

> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > That is fine, however its not what I was looking for.

> >

> > I have given you hint in my mail as well. Think more over it and let me

know.

> >

> > Go with the basic. The answer or the hint is in my earlier mail.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > In an Aries lagna chart (kalpurush chart), Jupiter as a lord of 12th

placed in Libra will be in 8th house from 12th. It will loose its karakatwa (I

think this is the right word!), and as such will become weak.

> > >

> > > Nir.

> > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nir,

> > > >

> > > > Just think over this more carefully. What are the condition under which

Ju cannot check the delay of Saturn?

> > > >

> > > > When Ju is in

> > > >

> > > > - Sign of Sa (own sign and MT)

> > > > - Nak of Sa

> > > > - Navamsa of Sa

> > > > - Ju is in Libra

> > > >

> > > > Now, what is special about libra for Ju not being able to check the

delay...

> > > >

> > > > Think and let me know.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks Ash for you mail. In this chart, Jupiter is in Libra in

navamsa. Will its aspect on Saturn in navamsa check any delay? I assume that

since Jupiter in Libra is weak, its aspect on Saturn will not check any delay.

Am I correct?

> > > > >

> > > > > Nir.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come

together in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or

1:1 so if 2 planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer

than 15 then they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very

specific.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is

irrespective of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are

seeing the reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore

that we use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this

principle.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of

Sa. It still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of

Saturn. If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points

for Sa will become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it

will reduce the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18

points in the WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 21.04.10

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Questions:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love

relationship due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in

both D-1 and D-9.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9

position enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> > > > > > > I think that for the majority of the events

in life there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and

simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most

important role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa

points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in

the events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s

personality which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from

time to time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on

the 11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot

be termed as a strong check.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1

and D-9 charts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the

laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love

affair.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong

significator Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect

of Ju is malefic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the

generally prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is

right now also needs to be taken into account.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing

yoga’s for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the

occurrence of affair.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that

there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju

in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house

lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20

degrees and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not

there and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong;

this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would

like our Moderators to throw might on this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this

facet gets tilted towards unhappiness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping

the unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the

couple concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the

exact feeling of the partners.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Nir,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The only event that I

> > > > > > > could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post

graduate degree

> > > > > > > from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August

2007 through

> > > > > > > Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> > > > > > > the foreign country in September 2009.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The reasons for not

> > > > > > > considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is

aspecting

> > > > > > > Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, This native's

> > > > > > > chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of

Lagna Lord and

> > > > > > > the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

> > > > > > > is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also Nikhleshji has

> > > > > > > given nice explanations.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Nikhleshji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Very good analysis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since Saturn the delay

> > > > > > > causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual

(1:7) aspect

> > > > > > > between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector.

Additionally

> > > > > > > as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it

to the 2nd

> > > > > > > sector.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As regards the

> > > > > > > relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is

also a

> > > > > > > possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such

relationship

> > > > > > > because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator

planet Venus

> > > > > > > both in Rasi and Navamsa?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Bala

> > > > > > > Subramanian)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " nikhlesh

mathur " wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 17.04.10

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to

happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when

the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the

event in the 1st sector itself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept

2010.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C

and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or

more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is

also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD

plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and

with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give

event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing

planet).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power

planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other

planetary combinations as well.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for

evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively

stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the

native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect

(The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends

to give immediate effects and/or results.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances

with females developed into an affair.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is

observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already

happened.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and

there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the

affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit

which crosses to the 2nd sector.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 16th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > April 2010

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Members.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > We are going

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male

native who is in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the marriageable age.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The following are the birth details.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Chart is of a male member.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Date of Birth 4th May,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > Planet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Degrees

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nakshatra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 7 Ge 25

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ardra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ra

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Su

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 21 Ar 7

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bharani

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 26 Ta 23

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mrigashira

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ma

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > MaR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 0 Sc 36

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Visakha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > MeR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3 Ar 39

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > JuR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 20 Sg 12

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > P.Asadha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 9 Ar 39

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SaR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 20 Li 17

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Visakha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 15 Ta 13

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohini

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 15 Sc 13

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Anuradha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sa

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The birth time of the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it

when the native

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job

placement.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The first thing that strikes

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th

house in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra

Navamsa. While

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage,

the second thing

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are

no zeros in SAV

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not

greater than 43

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage

is not

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for

the 5th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter

and

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun have low points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So when we look into

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From Rasi Chart:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of

marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lord are again in 6:8 position.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From Navamsa Chart:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be

moderate but one

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > will try to dominate the other.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be

tolerable.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and

Mercury. The

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence

it is not

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by

Jupiter(malefic

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but

here since the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets

spoiled.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally

represented by

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is

being

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not

taken into

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars

and Saturn have

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but

for the fact

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic

house becomes a

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have

more points (i.e.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going

affect much. In

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in

both Rasi and

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least

moderately both

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > by Saturn and Jupiter.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Next is the Functional

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in

the 12th,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in

whose

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for

the 12th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of

6th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can

conclude that

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The SAV points for the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 28.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One more thing to be

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord

Mercury is having a

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz.

marriage house is

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to get some deficiency.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to be a bed of roses.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In this chart 4 planets

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all

these are going to

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B

by placement or

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aspect.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now let us turn towards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > timing of marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The position of Saturn

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full

delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate

the delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the

delay to be over

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting

approximately 10 months

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of

26 Years and 8

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > months.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There is no Jupiter

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is

possible. The native

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give

any allowance

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age

comes after

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by

Jupiter say the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period

for time of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > marriage is ripe now.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars

are

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12

respectively. So any one

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is

Venus who will

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > be more eager to give the results.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The current Antara that

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is

13-11-2009 to

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is

likely to happen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > on 21st July 2011.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn is neither LoD

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house.

Mars

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of

Mars. Mars having

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is

Lord of 6th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars

is placed in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give

good

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the

significating

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub

period.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The next Antara is that

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in

worksheet. Hence no

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does

not also aspect

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the

first part of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mercury Antara.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Uptil now, members if

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are

welcome.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The real question I want

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to ask the members is this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Is it possible for the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Antara?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There is a reason

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > behind this question. I have to give you some background of

myself now. I have

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have

analysed the timing

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An

elaborate writing on my

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they

were kind enough

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to edit the same which is going to be published in an

astrological magazine. I

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But

they are all

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper

reasons for the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is

different. Also in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other

theories of which

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case

according to Bhrigu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the

native

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many

charts I

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another

system of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my

analysis? I shall be

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > glad to have your views on this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > Regards

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

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Hi Ash,Is it because Libra is the exaltation sign for Saturn.And where Saturn is exalted, a head priest like Jupiter cannot work.I mean, when Karmic debts are at a peak, it would tie the hands of Jupiter from being benign.

Regards,VamseeOn Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, ashsam73 <kas wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

hmmm... ok.. I shall wait for other members to think over it.

 

Take some more time and think over it. I know you will get it.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

>

> No idea. Are you hinting at Venus and Saturn being natural samdharmi. And, if Jupiter is in Libra, there is 4:10 relation with Capricorn and 5:9 with Aquirius?

>

> Nir.

>

>

> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > That is fine, however its not what I was looking for.

> >

> > I have given you hint in my mail as well. Think more over it and let me know.

> >

> > Go with the basic. The answer or the hint is in my earlier mail.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > In an Aries lagna chart (kalpurush chart), Jupiter as a lord of 12th placed in Libra will be in 8th house from 12th. It will loose its karakatwa (I think this is the right word!), and as such will become weak.

> > >

> > > Nir.

> > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nir,

> > > >

> > > > Just think over this more carefully. What are the condition under which Ju cannot check the delay of Saturn?

> > > >

> > > > When Ju is in

> > > >

> > > > - Sign of Sa (own sign and MT)

> > > > - Nak of Sa

> > > > - Navamsa of Sa

> > > > - Ju is in Libra

> > > >

> > > > Now, what is special about libra for Ju not being able to check the delay...

> > > >

> > > > Think and let me know.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks Ash for you mail. In this chart, Jupiter is in Libra in navamsa. Will its aspect on Saturn in navamsa check any delay? I assume that since Jupiter in Libra is weak, its aspect on Saturn will not check any delay. Am I correct?

> > > > >

> > > > > Nir.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come together in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1 so if 2 planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15 then they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is irrespective of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are seeing the reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore that we use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this principle.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of Sa. It still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of Saturn. If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for Sa will become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will reduce the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in the WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 21.04.10

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Questions:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and D-9.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> > > > > > > I think that for the majority of the events in life there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most important role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in the events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s personality which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from time to time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on the 11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot be termed as a strong check.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and D-9 charts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love affair.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong significator Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect of Ju is malefic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now also needs to be taken into account.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence of affair.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20 degrees and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not there and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong; this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would like our Moderators to throw might on this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this facet gets tilted towards unhappiness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping the unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the couple concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the exact feeling of the partners.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

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> > > > > > > Dear Nir,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The only event that I

> > > > > > > could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post graduate degree

> > > > > > > from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007 through

> > > > > > > Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> > > > > > > the foreign country in September 2009.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The reasons for not

> > > > > > > considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

> > > > > > > Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, This native's

> > > > > > > chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna Lord and

> > > > > > > the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

> > > > > > > is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also Nikhleshji has

> > > > > > > given nice explanations.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Nikhleshji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Very good analysis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since Saturn the delay

> > > > > > > causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual (1:7) aspect

> > > > > > > between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

> > > > > > > as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to the 2nd

> > > > > > > sector.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As regards the

> > > > > > > relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

> > > > > > > possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such relationship

> > > > > > > because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet Venus

> > > > > > > both in Rasi and Navamsa?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Bala

> > > > > > > Subramanian)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 17.04.10

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in the 1st sector itself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary combinations as well.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females developed into an affair.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses to the 2nd sector.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 16th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > April 2010

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Members.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > We are going

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who is in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the marriageable age.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The following are the birth details.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Chart is of a male member.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Date of Birth 4th May,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Planet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Degrees

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nakshatra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 7 Ge 25

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ardra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Su

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 21 Ar 7

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bharani

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 26 Ta 23

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mrigashira

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ma

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > MaR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 0 Sc 36

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Visakha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > MeR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3 Ar 39

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > JuR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 20 Sg 12

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > P.Asadha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 9 Ar 39

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SaR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 20 Li 17

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Visakha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 15 Ta 13

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohini

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 15 Sc 13

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Anuradha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sa

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The birth time of the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the native

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The first thing that strikes

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second thing

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun have low points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So when we look into

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From Rasi Chart:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lord are again in 6:8 position.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From Navamsa Chart:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but one

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > will try to dominate the other.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect much. In

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least moderately both

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > by Saturn and Jupiter.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Next is the Functional

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The SAV points for the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 28.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One more thing to be

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is having a

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage house is

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to get some deficiency.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to be a bed of roses.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In this chart 4 planets

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are going to

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by placement or

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aspect.

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now let us turn towards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > timing of marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The position of Saturn

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be over

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > months.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There is no Jupiter

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The native

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any allowance

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > marriage is ripe now.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any one

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > be more eager to give the results.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The current Antara that

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to happen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > on 21st July 2011.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn is neither LoD

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars having

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The next Antara is that

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence no

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also aspect

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mercury Antara.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Uptil now, members if

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The real question I want

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to ask the members is this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Is it possible for the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Antara?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There is a reason

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I have

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the timing

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of which

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according to Bhrigu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I shall be

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > glad to have your views on this.

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> > > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

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Dear Vamsee and NS,

 

Bingo !!! 

 

The key is that Libra is the unccha

sign of Shani.

 

Therefore the logic is that when Guru is in the

 

-

Sign of Shani (i.e. own sign is Cap and Mool

trikon is Aqu)

-

Nakshatra of Shani

-

Navamsa of Shani

-

And Libra which is the uncha sign

of Shani, Guru then looses its ability to check the delay of Shani.

 

 

Vamsee:

 

I do not know about Karmic debt etc, those things are all

mythological or philosophical so that does not make it scientific.  We will stick to science here and concrete

logic.  The logic which you have given is

perfect about Libra being the unccha sign of Shani

and its where Shani is powerful therefore Guru looses its ability to check the

delay of Shani.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Joe maya

Wednesday April 21, 2010

7:14 PM

To:

 

Re:

Re: Predicting Marriage of a Native

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Ash,

 

 

 

 

Is it because Libra is the

exaltation sign for Saturn.

 

 

And where Saturn is exalted,

a head priest like Jupiter cannot work.

 

 

I mean, when Karmic debts are

at a peak, it would tie the hands of Jupiter from being benign.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Vamsee

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:27

PM, ashsam73 <kas wrote:

 

 

 

 

hmmm... ok.. I shall wait for other members to think

over it.

 

Take some more time and think over it. I know you will get it.

 

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

,

" nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

>

> No idea. Are you hinting at Venus and Saturn being natural samdharmi. And,

if Jupiter is in Libra, there is 4:10 relation with Capricorn and 5:9 with

Aquirius?

>

> Nir.

>

>

> ,

" ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > That is fine, however its not what I was looking for.

> >

> > I have given you hint in my mail as well. Think more over it and let

me know.

> >

> > Go with the basic. The answer or the hint is in my earlier mail.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > ,

" nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > In an Aries lagna chart (kalpurush chart), Jupiter as a lord of

12th placed in Libra will be in 8th house from 12th. It will loose its

karakatwa (I think this is the right word!), and as such will become weak.

> > >

> > > Nir.

> > > ,

" ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nir,

> > > >

> > > > Just think over this more carefully. What are the condition

under which Ju cannot check the delay of Saturn?

> > > >

> > > > When Ju is in

> > > >

> > > > - Sign of Sa (own sign and MT)

> > > > - Nak of Sa

> > > > - Navamsa of Sa

> > > > - Ju is in Libra

> > > >

> > > > Now, what is special about libra for Ju not being able to

check the delay...

> > > >

> > > > Think and let me know.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

" nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks Ash for you mail. In this chart, Jupiter is in

Libra in navamsa. Will its aspect on Saturn in navamsa check any delay? I

assume that since Jupiter in Libra is weak, its aspect on Saturn will not check

any delay. Am I correct?

> > > > >

> > > > > Nir.

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

" ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then

they will come together in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for

relationship or 1:1 so if 2 planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like

2:12 and if closer than 15 then they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with

5:9. This is very specific.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus

and that is irrespective of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga

then we are seeing the reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the

WS. Therefore that we use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not

confuse this principle.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not

check the power of Sa. It still causes delay irrespective of its points. That

is the nature of Saturn. If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then

the WS points for Sa will become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus

then itself it will reduce the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it

will ADD 18 points in the WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

" nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 21.04.10

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM;

79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Questions:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Is there a possibility that there may not

be a love relationship due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator

planet Venus in both D-1 and D-9.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the

7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life is a big

question to be seen?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> > > > > > > I think that for the majority of the events

in life there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and

simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The power of the yoga’s on each side

therefore play the most important role and such powers vary with time (i.e.

depending upon the Ju + Sa points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa),

Antardasha (playing a bigger role in the events getting implemented) and quite

importantly on the native’s personality which also has contiuous impact of

the surrounding environment from time to time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which

means that its aspect on the 11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So

the check of Ju on Ve cannot be termed as a strong check.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by

Saturn in both D-1 and D-9 charts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord

of 10th and one of the laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th

lord also leads to love affair.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here

aspecting strong significator Ve, is another matter but we should also not

forget that the aspect of Ju is malefic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of

Rahu on Moon, the generally prevailing free environment in the foreign land

where the native is right now also needs to be taken into account.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Therefore when we try to balance the favorable

and opposing yoga’s for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the

favour of the occurrence of affair.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For the 2nd question again if we do the

balancing act we find that there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness

against other factors (Ju in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being

6:8 with their opposite house lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married

life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If we closely watch their degrees then we

find that Ju has >20 degrees and Me has >3degrees which means that the

perfect 5:9 combination is not there and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga

might not be very strong; this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS

laws approve it. I would like our Moderators to throw might on this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If it is so then the net result of the

yoga’s relevant to this facet gets tilted towards unhappiness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > However the one relationship of 5:9 measure,

might help in keeping the unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure

of the facts by the couple concerned; it may get matured with age and so one

might never know the exact feeling of the partners.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Nir,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The only event that I

> > > > > > > could gather from the native's parent's are

that he got a Post graduate degree

> > > > > > > from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign

placement in August 2007 through

> > > > > > > Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> > > > > > > the foreign country in September 2009.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The reasons for not

> > > > > > > considering the event in the 3rd sector is

that Jupiter is aspecting

> > > > > > > Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the

2nd part.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, This native's

> > > > > > > chart does not seem to be a happy marriage.

Will the position of Lagna Lord and

> > > > > > > the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to

give a happy married life

> > > > > > > is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also Nikhleshji has

> > > > > > > given nice explanations.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Nikhleshji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Very good analysis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since Saturn the delay

> > > > > > > causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi

and there is a mutual (1:7) aspect

> > > > > > > between them in Navamsa, I decided for the

2nd sector. Additionally

> > > > > > > as you have stated the affliction of the

karakas may postpone it to the 2nd

> > > > > > > sector.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As regards the

> > > > > > > relationship turning into love and

fructifying into marriage is also a

> > > > > > > possibility. Is there a possibility that

there may not be any such relationship

> > > > > > > because of the aspect of Jupiter on the

strongest significator planet Venus

> > > > > > > both in Rasi and Navamsa?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Bala

> > > > > > > Subramanian)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

" nikhlesh mathur " wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 17.04.10

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05

AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Main question by Bala ji: Is it

possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

Antara?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In this chart Sa is the delay causing

planet and therefore when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay

is over, it gives the event in the 1st sector itself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Going by this Sa is capable of giving

the event before 17th Sept 2010.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Having said this, it is also a fact

that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD

unless it has high points (20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very

weak with only 8 points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now again if we view this chart from

the 12th house, which is also reflective of marriage in ways more than one,

then we find that Sa is LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points

are not more than 4).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So it again induces us to think that Sa

can give marriage and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus

Sa being capable to give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to

it being delay causing planet).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now looking from another angle,

marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married

life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This aspect of native’s life is

quite obvious from other planetary combinations as well.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here even if we multiply the Sa points

with its M.F. (for evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum

required 12.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e.

Me is comparatively stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This native’s Moon is controlled

by Rahu and the native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s

strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this

native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The native has strong chances of of

letting his acquaintances with females developed into an affair.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There are chances of love marriage for

him and many times it is observed that love marriages take place instantly if

the delay had already happened.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage

event to this native and there are good chances that it happens in the 1st

sector itself. However the affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa

can extend the delay a bit which crosses to the 2nd sector.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530

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> > > > > > > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

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> > > > > > > > 16th

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> > > > > > > > April 2010

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> > > > > > > > Dear Members.

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> > > > > > > > Predicting Marriage for a native:

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> > > > > > > > We are going

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> > > > > > > > to discuss the quality as well as

timing of marriage of a male native who is in

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> > > > > > > > the marriageable age.

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The following are the birth details.

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> > > > > > > > Chart is of a male member.

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> > > > > > > > Date of Birth 4th May,

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> > > > > > > > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time

Zone: IST -5:30

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

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> > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

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> > > > > > > > Planet

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> > > > > > > > Degrees

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> > > > > > > > Nakshatra

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> > > > > > > > Lord

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> > > > > > > > As

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> > > > > > > > 7 Ge 25

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> > > > > > > > Ardra

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> > > > > > > > Ra

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Su

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> > > > > > > > 21 Ar 7

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bharani

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> > > > > > > > Ve

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mo

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> > > > > > > > 26 Ta 23

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> > > > > > > > Mrigashira

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ma

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > MaR

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> > > > > > > > 0 Sc 36

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> > > > > > > > Visakha

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> > > > > > > > Ju

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > MeR

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> > > > > > > > 3 Ar 39

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > JuR

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> > > > > > > > 20 Sg 12

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> > > > > > > > P.Asadha

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> > > > > > > > Ve

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve

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> > > > > > > > 9 Ar 39

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> > > > > > > > Aswini

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> > > > > > > > Ke

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> > > > > > > > SaR

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> > > > > > > > 20 Li 17

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> > > > > > > > Visakha

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> > > > > > > > Ju

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> > > > > > > > Ra

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> > > > > > > > 15 Ta 13

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> > > > > > > > Rohini

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> > > > > > > > Mo

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> > > > > > > > Ke

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> > > > > > > > 15 Sc 13

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> > > > > > > > Anuradha

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> > > > > > > > Sa

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The birth time of the

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> > > > > > > > native is correct as I have on an

earlier occasion tested it when the native

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > was about to finish his post graduation

and analysed it for job placement.

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> > > > > > > > The first thing that strikes

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the mind in the chart is the placement

of Saturn in the 5th house in

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> > > > > > > > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and

placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the first will be contributing towards

delay of the marriage, the second thing

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> > > > > > > > is going to disturb the family life.

However, because there are no zeros in SAV

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and also because the distance between

Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > degrees, we can safely conclude that

the question of No marriage is not

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > applicable. This is also confirmed by

the Worksheet points for the 5th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th

house only Venus

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th

house Saturn, Jupiter and

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun have low points.

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So when we look into

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the quality aspect of the marriage the

scenario is like this:

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > From Rasi Chart:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a

good result out of marriage.

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

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> > > > > > > > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing

disputes.

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lord are again in 6:8 position.

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From Navamsa Chart:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the

relationship would be moderate but one

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > will try to dominate the other.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating

the relationship would be tolerable.

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus.

Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > distance between Venus and Sun is more

than 11 degrees and hence it is not

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > combust. But Venus is aspected by

Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet

that can control Venus, but here since the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the

matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Further Venus is in the constellation

of Ketu who is equally represented by

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the

Navamsa also Venus is being

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter

(Here since bindus are not taken into

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > account, we can say Venus is controlled

by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can

be taken as neutral but for the fact

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But

here he is placed in the 6th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > house itself. Mars being a natural

malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > benefic if he has more points. Here,

since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > greater than 4), we can safely conclude

that Mars is not going affect much. In

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > addition Saturn is also aspecting one

of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that

Venus gets afflicted at least moderately both

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> > > > > > > > by Saturn and Jupiter.

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Next is the Functional

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low

points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it may increase the value of the 12th

house. But he is conjoined

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more

like Venus than Moon (in whose

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > constellation he is placed) due to more

AV points for Venus for the 12th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is

again getting the aspect of 6th

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not

disturbed. So we can conclude that

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > overall the Functional karaka is

afflicted.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The SAV points for the

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> > > > > > > > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less

than

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 28.

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One more thing to be

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its

opposite house Lord Mercury is having a

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the

result of house B viz. marriage house is

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to get some deficiency.

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hence the conclusion is that life after

marriage is not going

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to be a bed of roses.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In this chart 4 planets

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter

and Saturn. Hence all these are going to

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > enhance the results and all of them are

connected with house B by placement or

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aspect.

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > Now let us turn towards

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> > > > > > > > timing of marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The position of Saturn

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > in the 5th house both in Rasi and

Navamsa contribute to full delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However, the aspect of Jupiter on

Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal

Chart and hence for the delay to be over

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in

Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > from the full delay of 27 years and 6

months we get a period of 26 Years and 8

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > months.

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There is no Jupiter

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence

no other delay is possible. The native

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as on date is of 25 years and 11

months. Even if we do not give any allowance

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > for the moderation of delay caused by

Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the

moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > minimum of 2 years, the period is

already over. Hence the period for time of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > marriage is ripe now.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > worksheet points. For the 7th house

Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the highest significators having got

20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any one

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > of the 4 planets can give the result.

LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > be more eager to give the results.

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The current Antara that

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is running is that of Saturn and the

total duration is 13-11-2009 to

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by

Jupiter, the event is likely to happen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The

2nd part begins

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > on 21st July 2011.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn is neither LoD

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough

points for the 7th house. Mars

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is

placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars having

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 12 points in the worksheet can give the

marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However he is placed in his own house

in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot

give good results (a

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th

house from B cannot give good

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > results). More importantly since Saturn

is aspecting all the significating

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > houses, a favourable result cannot be

expected during his sub period.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The next Antara is that

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > of Mercury who is LoD and is also

having high points in worksheet. Hence no

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final

decider. Mercury does not also aspect

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > any of the significating houses.

Marriage may take place in the first part of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mercury Antara.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Uptil now, members if

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > they want to contribute or dispute some

of the points are welcome.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The real question I want

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to ask the members is this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Is it possible for the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > marriage to happen during the 2nd or

3rd part of Saturn

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Antara?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There is a reason

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > behind this question. I have to give

you some background of myself now. I have

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > collected nearly 200 charts from known

persons and I have analysed the timing

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > of marriage in all the charts using KAS

principles. (An elaborate writing on my

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > study has already been forwarded to

Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to edit the same which is going to be

published in an astrological magazine. I

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > shall inform the members as soon as the

same is published). But they are all

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > events that have happened and it

becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > event from the rules studied by us.

Here the situation is different. Also in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > all the cases I have studied, I have

tested them with other theories of which

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > one powerful system is of Bhrigu

Paddhathi. In the present case according to Bhrigu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in

the 27th year of the native

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May

2011. Members should

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > not think that I am against KAS or some

such thing. When so many charts I

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tested were falling within the rules of

both KAS and another system of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > astrology why not this chart? Am I

missing something in my analysis? I shall be

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > glad to have your views on this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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THANK YOU Ash ji, some more fundamentals are now clear by you nice explanation.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh

 

 

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:40:52 +0530 wrote

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Dear Nikhlesh ji,

 

 

 

- 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come together in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1 so if 2 planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15 then they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

 

 

 

- Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is irrespective of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are seeing the reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore that we use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this principle.

 

 

 

Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of Sa. It still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of Saturn. If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for Sa will become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will reduce the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in the WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

 

Ash

 

 

 

, "nikhlesh mathur" wrote:

 

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> 21.04.10

 

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> Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

 

>

 

> Questions:

 

>

 

> 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and D-9.

 

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> 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

 

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>

 

> Dear Balasubramanian ji,

 

> I think that for the majority of the events in life there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

 

>

 

> The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most important role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in the events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s personality which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from time to time.

 

>

 

> Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on the 11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot be termed as a strong check.

 

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> Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

 

>

 

> Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and D-9 charts.

 

>

 

> Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love affair.

 

>

 

> That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong significator Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect of Ju is malefic.

 

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> The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now also needs to be taken into account.

 

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> Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence of affair.

 

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> For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

 

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> The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

 

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> If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20 degrees and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not there and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

 

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> So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong; this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would like our Moderators to throw might on this.

 

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> If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this facet gets tilted towards unhappiness.

 

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> However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping the unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the couple concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the exact feeling of the partners.

 

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> Regards,

 

> Nikhlesh Mathur

 

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> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

 

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> Dear Nir,

 

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> The only event that I

 

> could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post graduate degree

 

> from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007 through

 

> Campus placement. He shifted his job in

 

> the foreign country in September 2009.

 

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> The reasons for not

 

> considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

 

> Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

 

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> Yes, This native's

 

> chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna Lord and

 

> the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

 

> is a big question to be seen?

 

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> Also Nikhleshji has

 

> given nice explanations.

 

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> Dear Nikhleshji,

 

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> Very good analysis.

 

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> Since Saturn the delay

 

> causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual (1:7) aspect

 

> between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

 

> as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to the 2nd

 

> sector.

 

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>

 

> As regards the

 

> relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

 

> possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such relationship

 

> because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet Venus

 

> both in Rasi and Navamsa?

 

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> Yenbeeyes (Bala

 

> Subramanian)

 

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> , "nikhlesh mathur" wrote:

 

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> > 17.04.10

 

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> >

 

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> > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

 

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> >

 

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> > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

 

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> > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in the 1st sector itself.

 

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> >

 

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> > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

 

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> >

 

>

 

> > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

 

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> >

 

>

 

> > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

 

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> >

 

>

 

> > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

 

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> >

 

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> > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary combinations as well.

 

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> > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

 

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> >

 

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> > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

 

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> > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results.

 

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> > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females developed into an affair.

 

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> > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened.

 

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> >

 

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> > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses to the 2nd sector.

 

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> > Regards,

 

>

 

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

 

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> > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

 

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> > 16th

 

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> > April 2010

 

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> >

 

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> > Dear Members.

 

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> >

 

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> > Predicting Marriage for a native:

 

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> >

 

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> > We are going

 

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> > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who is in

 

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> > the marriageable age.

 

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> > The following are the birth details.

 

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> > Chart is of a male member.

 

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> > Date of Birth 4th May,

 

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> > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

 

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> >

 

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> > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

 

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> > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

 

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> > Lord

 

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> > 7 Ge 25

 

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> > The birth time of the

 

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> > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the native

 

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> > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement.

 

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> > The first thing that strikes

 

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> > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

 

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> > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While

 

>

 

> > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second thing

 

>

 

> > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV

 

>

 

> > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

 

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> > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

 

>

 

> > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

 

>

 

> > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

 

>

 

> > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

 

>

 

> > Sun have low points.

 

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> >

 

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> > So when we look into

 

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> > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

 

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> >

 

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> > From Rasi Chart:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

 

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> > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

 

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> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

 

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> > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

 

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> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

 

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> > lord are again in 6:8 position.

 

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> > From Navamsa Chart:

 

>

 

> >

 

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> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

 

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> >

 

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> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but one

 

>

 

> > will try to dominate the other.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

 

>

 

> >

 

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> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now let us turn to the

 

>

 

> > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

 

>

 

> > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

 

>

 

> > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

 

>

 

> > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since the

 

>

 

> > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

 

>

 

> > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by

 

>

 

> > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

 

>

 

> > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

 

>

 

> > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have

 

>

 

> > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact

 

>

 

> > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

 

>

 

> > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a

 

>

 

> > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

 

>

 

> > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect much. In

 

>

 

> > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

 

>

 

> > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least moderately both

 

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> > by Saturn and Jupiter.

 

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> >

 

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> >

 

>

 

> > Next is the Functional

 

>

 

> > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

 

>

 

> > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

 

>

 

> > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

 

>

 

> > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

 

>

 

> > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

 

>

 

> > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

 

>

 

> > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

 

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> >

 

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> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The SAV points for the

 

>

 

> > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

 

>

 

> > 28.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > One more thing to be

 

>

 

> > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is having a

 

>

 

> > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage house is

 

>

 

> > to get some deficiency.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

 

>

 

> > to be a bed of roses.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > In this chart 4 planets

 

>

 

> > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are going to

 

>

 

> > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by placement or

 

>

 

> > aspect.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now let us turn towards

 

>

 

> > timing of marriage.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The position of Saturn

 

>

 

> > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

 

>

 

> > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

 

>

 

> > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be over

 

>

 

> > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months

 

>

 

> > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8

 

>

 

> > months.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > There is no Jupiter

 

>

 

> > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The native

 

>

 

> > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any allowance

 

>

 

> > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

 

>

 

> > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

 

>

 

> > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time of

 

>

 

> > marriage is ripe now.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now let us turn to the

 

>

 

> > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

 

>

 

> > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any one

 

>

 

> > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will

 

>

 

> > be more eager to give the results.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The current Antara that

 

>

 

> > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

 

>

 

> > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to happen

 

>

 

> > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

 

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> > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

 

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> > on 21st July 2011.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Saturn is neither LoD

 

>

 

> > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

 

>

 

> > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars having

 

>

 

> > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

 

>

 

> > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

 

>

 

> > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

 

>

 

> > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

 

>

 

> > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

 

>

 

> > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The next Antara is that

 

>

 

> > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence no

 

>

 

> > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also aspect

 

>

 

> > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part of

 

>

 

> > Mercury Antara.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Uptil now, members if

 

>

 

> > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The real question I want

 

>

 

> > to ask the members is this.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

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> >

 

>

 

> > Is it possible for the

 

>

 

> > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

 

>

 

> > Antara?

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > There is a reason

 

>

 

> > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I have

 

>

 

> > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the timing

 

>

 

> > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my

 

>

 

> > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough

 

>

 

> > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I

 

>

 

> > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

 

>

 

> > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

 

>

 

> > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also in

 

>

 

> > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of which

 

>

 

> > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according to Bhrigu

 

>

 

> > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

 

>

 

> > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

 

>

 

> > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

 

>

 

> > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

 

>

 

> > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I shall be

 

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> > glad to have your views on this.

 

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Dear Ashji,GreetingsThat is a very nice explanation making the concept more clear.Regardsyenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

THANK YOU Ash ji, some more fundamentals are now clear by you nice explanation.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh

 

 

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:40:52 +0530 wrote

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Dear Nikhlesh ji,

 

 

 

- 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come together in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1 so if 2 planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15 then they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

 

 

 

- Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is irrespective of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are seeing the reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore that we use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this principle.

 

 

 

Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of Sa. It still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of Saturn. If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for Sa will become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will reduce the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in the WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

 

Ash

 

 

 

, " nikhlesh mathur " wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> 21.04.10

 

>

 

> Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

 

>

 

> Questions:

 

>

 

> 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and D-9.

 

>

 

> 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

 

>

 

>

 

> Dear Balasubramanian ji,

 

> I think that for the majority of the events in life there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

 

>

 

> The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most important role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in the events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s personality which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from time to time.

 

>

 

> Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on the 11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot be termed as a strong check.

 

>

 

> Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

 

>

 

> Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and D-9 charts.

 

>

 

> Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love affair.

 

>

 

> That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong significator Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect of Ju is malefic.

 

>

 

> The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now also needs to be taken into account.

 

>

 

> Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence of affair.

 

>

 

> For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

 

>

 

> The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

 

>

 

> If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20 degrees and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not there and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

 

>

 

> So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong; this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would like our Moderators to throw might on this.

 

>

 

> If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this facet gets tilted towards unhappiness.

 

>

 

> However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping the unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the couple concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the exact feeling of the partners.

 

>

 

> Regards,

 

> Nikhlesh Mathur

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

 

> >

 

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>

 

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>

 

>

 

> Dear Nir,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> The only event that I

 

> could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post graduate degree

 

> from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007 through

 

> Campus placement. He shifted his job in

 

> the foreign country in September 2009.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> The reasons for not

 

> considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

 

> Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Yes, This native's

 

> chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna Lord and

 

> the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

 

> is a big question to be seen?

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Also Nikhleshji has

 

> given nice explanations.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Dear Nikhleshji,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Very good analysis.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Since Saturn the delay

 

> causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual (1:7) aspect

 

> between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

 

> as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to the 2nd

 

> sector.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> As regards the

 

> relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

 

> possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such relationship

 

> because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet Venus

 

> both in Rasi and Navamsa?

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Yenbeeyes (Bala

 

> Subramanian)

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote:

 

> >

 

> > 17.04.10

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in the 1st sector itself.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary combinations as well.

 

>

 

> > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females developed into an affair.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses to the 2nd sector.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Regards,

 

>

 

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

 

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> > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

 

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> > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

 

>

 

> > 16th

 

>

 

> > April 2010

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Dear Members.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Predicting Marriage for a native:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > We are going

 

>

 

> > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who is in

 

>

 

> > the marriageable age.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The following are the birth details.

 

>

 

> > Chart is of a male member.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Date of Birth 4th May,

 

>

 

> > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

 

>

 

> > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Planet

 

>

 

> > Degrees

 

>

 

> > Nakshatra

 

>

 

> > Lord

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > As

 

>

 

> > 7 Ge 25

 

>

 

> > Ardra

 

>

 

> > Ra

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Su

 

>

 

> > 21 Ar 7

 

>

 

> > Bharani

 

>

 

> > Ve

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Mo

 

>

 

> > 26 Ta 23

 

>

 

> > Mrigashira

 

>

 

> > Ma

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > MaR

 

>

 

> > 0 Sc 36

 

>

 

> > Visakha

 

>

 

> > Ju

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > MeR

 

>

 

> > 3 Ar 39

 

>

 

> > Aswini

 

>

 

> > Ke

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > JuR

 

>

 

> > 20 Sg 12

 

>

 

> > P.Asadha

 

>

 

> > Ve

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Ve

 

>

 

> > 9 Ar 39

 

>

 

> > Aswini

 

>

 

> > Ke

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > SaR

 

>

 

> > 20 Li 17

 

>

 

> > Visakha

 

>

 

> > Ju

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Ra

 

>

 

> > 15 Ta 13

 

>

 

> > Rohini

 

>

 

> > Mo

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Ke

 

>

 

> > 15 Sc 13

 

>

 

> > Anuradha

 

>

 

> > Sa

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The birth time of the

 

>

 

> > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the native

 

>

 

> > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The first thing that strikes

 

>

 

> > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

 

>

 

> > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While

 

>

 

> > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second thing

 

>

 

> > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV

 

>

 

> > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

 

>

 

> > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

 

>

 

> > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

 

>

 

> > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

 

>

 

> > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

 

>

 

> > Sun have low points.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > So when we look into

 

>

 

> > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > From Rasi Chart:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > lord are again in 6:8 position.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > From Navamsa Chart:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but one

 

>

 

> > will try to dominate the other.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now let us turn to the

 

>

 

> > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

 

>

 

> > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

 

>

 

> > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

 

>

 

> > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since the

 

>

 

> > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

 

>

 

> > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by

 

>

 

> > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

 

>

 

> > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

 

>

 

> > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have

 

>

 

> > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact

 

>

 

> > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

 

>

 

> > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a

 

>

 

> > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

 

>

 

> > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect much. In

 

>

 

> > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

 

>

 

> > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least moderately both

 

>

 

> > by Saturn and Jupiter.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Next is the Functional

 

>

 

> > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

 

>

 

> > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

 

>

 

> > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

 

>

 

> > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

 

>

 

> > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

 

>

 

> > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

 

>

 

> > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The SAV points for the

 

>

 

> > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

 

>

 

> > 28.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > One more thing to be

 

>

 

> > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is having a

 

>

 

> > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage house is

 

>

 

> > to get some deficiency.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

 

>

 

> > to be a bed of roses.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > In this chart 4 planets

 

>

 

> > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are going to

 

>

 

> > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by placement or

 

>

 

> > aspect.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now let us turn towards

 

>

 

> > timing of marriage.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The position of Saturn

 

>

 

> > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

 

>

 

> > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

 

>

 

> > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be over

 

>

 

> > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months

 

>

 

> > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8

 

>

 

> > months.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > There is no Jupiter

 

>

 

> > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The native

 

>

 

> > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any allowance

 

>

 

> > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

 

>

 

> > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

 

>

 

> > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time of

 

>

 

> > marriage is ripe now.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now let us turn to the

 

>

 

> > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

 

>

 

> > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any one

 

>

 

> > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will

 

>

 

> > be more eager to give the results.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The current Antara that

 

>

 

> > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

 

>

 

> > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to happen

 

>

 

> > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

 

>

 

> > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

 

>

 

> > on 21st July 2011.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Saturn is neither LoD

 

>

 

> > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

 

>

 

> > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars having

 

>

 

> > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

 

>

 

> > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

 

>

 

> > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

 

>

 

> > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

 

>

 

> > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

 

>

 

> > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The next Antara is that

 

>

 

> > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence no

 

>

 

> > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also aspect

 

>

 

> > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part of

 

>

 

> > Mercury Antara.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Uptil now, members if

 

>

 

> > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

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> >

 

>

 

> > The real question I want

 

>

 

> > to ask the members is this.

 

>

 

> >

 

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> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Is it possible for the

 

>

 

> > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

 

>

 

> > Antara?

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > There is a reason

 

>

 

> > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I have

 

>

 

> > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the timing

 

>

 

> > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my

 

>

 

> > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough

 

>

 

> > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I

 

>

 

> > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

 

>

 

> > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

 

>

 

> > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also in

 

>

 

> > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of which

 

>

 

> > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according to Bhrigu

 

>

 

> > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

 

>

 

> > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

 

>

 

> > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

 

>

 

> > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

 

>

 

> > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I shall be

 

>

 

> > glad to have your views on this.

 

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> > Regards

 

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> > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

 

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Dear Ash,Thanks for your explanation. :)Studying the Bindus and the ashtakavarga, let us not be bothered about the issues or topics like karmic debts of the natives.

Regards,Vamsee.On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Bala Subramanian <yenbeeyes wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ashji,GreetingsThat is a very nice explanation making the concept more clear.Regardsyenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

THANK YOU Ash ji, some more fundamentals are now clear by you nice explanation.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh

 

 

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:40:52 +0530 wrote

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Dear Nikhlesh ji,

 

 

 

- 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come together in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1 so if 2 planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15 then they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

 

 

 

- Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is irrespective of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are seeing the reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore that we use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this principle.

 

 

 

Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of Sa. It still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of Saturn. If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for Sa will become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will reduce the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in the WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

 

Ash

 

 

 

, " nikhlesh mathur " wrote:

 

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>

 

> 21.04.10

 

>

 

> Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

 

>

 

> Questions:

 

>

 

> 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and D-9.

 

>

 

> 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

 

>

 

>

 

> Dear Balasubramanian ji,

 

> I think that for the majority of the events in life there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

 

>

 

> The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most important role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in the events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s personality which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from time to time.

 

>

 

> Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on the 11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot be termed as a strong check.

 

>

 

> Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

 

>

 

> Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and D-9 charts.

 

>

 

> Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love affair.

 

>

 

> That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong significator Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect of Ju is malefic.

 

>

 

> The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now also needs to be taken into account.

 

>

 

> Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence of affair.

 

>

 

> For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

 

>

 

> The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

 

>

 

> If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20 degrees and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not there and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

 

>

 

> So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong; this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would like our Moderators to throw might on this.

 

>

 

> If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this facet gets tilted towards unhappiness.

 

>

 

> However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping the unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the couple concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the exact feeling of the partners.

 

>

 

> Regards,

 

> Nikhlesh Mathur

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

 

> >

 

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>

 

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>

 

>

 

> Dear Nir,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> The only event that I

 

> could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post graduate degree

 

> from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007 through

 

> Campus placement. He shifted his job in

 

> the foreign country in September 2009.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> The reasons for not

 

> considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

 

> Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Yes, This native's

 

> chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna Lord and

 

> the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

 

> is a big question to be seen?

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Also Nikhleshji has

 

> given nice explanations.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Dear Nikhleshji,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Very good analysis.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Since Saturn the delay

 

> causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual (1:7) aspect

 

> between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

 

> as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to the 2nd

 

> sector.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> As regards the

 

> relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

 

> possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such relationship

 

> because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet Venus

 

> both in Rasi and Navamsa?

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Yenbeeyes (Bala

 

> Subramanian)

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote:

 

> >

 

> > 17.04.10

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in the 1st sector itself.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary combinations as well.

 

>

 

> > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females developed into an affair.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses to the 2nd sector.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Regards,

 

>

 

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

 

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> > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:01:50 +0530 wrote

 

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> > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

 

>

 

> > 16th

 

>

 

> > April 2010

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Dear Members.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Predicting Marriage for a native:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > We are going

 

>

 

> > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who is in

 

>

 

> > the marriageable age.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The following are the birth details.

 

>

 

> > Chart is of a male member.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Date of Birth 4th May,

 

>

 

> > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

 

>

 

> > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Planet

 

>

 

> > Degrees

 

>

 

> > Nakshatra

 

>

 

> > Lord

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > As

 

>

 

> > 7 Ge 25

 

>

 

> > Ardra

 

>

 

> > Ra

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Su

 

>

 

> > 21 Ar 7

 

>

 

> > Bharani

 

>

 

> > Ve

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Mo

 

>

 

> > 26 Ta 23

 

>

 

> > Mrigashira

 

>

 

> > Ma

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > MaR

 

>

 

> > 0 Sc 36

 

>

 

> > Visakha

 

>

 

> > Ju

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > MeR

 

>

 

> > 3 Ar 39

 

>

 

> > Aswini

 

>

 

> > Ke

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > JuR

 

>

 

> > 20 Sg 12

 

>

 

> > P.Asadha

 

>

 

> > Ve

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Ve

 

>

 

> > 9 Ar 39

 

>

 

> > Aswini

 

>

 

> > Ke

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > SaR

 

>

 

> > 20 Li 17

 

>

 

> > Visakha

 

>

 

> > Ju

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Ra

 

>

 

> > 15 Ta 13

 

>

 

> > Rohini

 

>

 

> > Mo

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Ke

 

>

 

> > 15 Sc 13

 

>

 

> > Anuradha

 

>

 

> > Sa

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The birth time of the

 

>

 

> > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the native

 

>

 

> > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The first thing that strikes

 

>

 

> > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

 

>

 

> > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While

 

>

 

> > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second thing

 

>

 

> > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV

 

>

 

> > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

 

>

 

> > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

 

>

 

> > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

 

>

 

> > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

 

>

 

> > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

 

>

 

> > Sun have low points.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > So when we look into

 

>

 

> > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > From Rasi Chart:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > lord are again in 6:8 position.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > From Navamsa Chart:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but one

 

>

 

> > will try to dominate the other.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

 

>

 

> > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now let us turn to the

 

>

 

> > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

 

>

 

> > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

 

>

 

> > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

 

>

 

> > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since the

 

>

 

> > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

 

>

 

> > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by

 

>

 

> > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

 

>

 

> > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

 

>

 

> > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have

 

>

 

> > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact

 

>

 

> > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

 

>

 

> > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a

 

>

 

> > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

 

>

 

> > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect much. In

 

>

 

> > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

 

>

 

> > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least moderately both

 

>

 

> > by Saturn and Jupiter.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Next is the Functional

 

>

 

> > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

 

>

 

> > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

 

>

 

> > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

 

>

 

> > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

 

>

 

> > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

 

>

 

> > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

 

>

 

> > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The SAV points for the

 

>

 

> > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

 

>

 

> > 28.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > One more thing to be

 

>

 

> > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is having a

 

>

 

> > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage house is

 

>

 

> > to get some deficiency.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

 

>

 

> > to be a bed of roses.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > In this chart 4 planets

 

>

 

> > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are going to

 

>

 

> > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by placement or

 

>

 

> > aspect.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now let us turn towards

 

>

 

> > timing of marriage.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The position of Saturn

 

>

 

> > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

 

>

 

> > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

 

>

 

> > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be over

 

>

 

> > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months

 

>

 

> > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8

 

>

 

> > months.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > There is no Jupiter

 

>

 

> > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The native

 

>

 

> > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any allowance

 

>

 

> > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

 

>

 

> > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

 

>

 

> > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time of

 

>

 

> > marriage is ripe now.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Now let us turn to the

 

>

 

> > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

 

>

 

> > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any one

 

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> > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will

 

>

 

> > be more eager to give the results.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The current Antara that

 

>

 

> > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

 

>

 

> > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to happen

 

>

 

> > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

 

>

 

> > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

 

>

 

> > on 21st July 2011.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Saturn is neither LoD

 

>

 

> > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

 

>

 

> > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars having

 

>

 

> > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

 

>

 

> > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

 

>

 

> > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

 

>

 

> > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

 

>

 

> > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

 

>

 

> > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The next Antara is that

 

>

 

> > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence no

 

>

 

> > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also aspect

 

>

 

> > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part of

 

>

 

> > Mercury Antara.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Uptil now, members if

 

>

 

> > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The real question I want

 

>

 

> > to ask the members is this.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Is it possible for the

 

>

 

> > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

 

>

 

> > Antara?

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > There is a reason

 

>

 

> > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I have

 

>

 

> > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the timing

 

>

 

> > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my

 

>

 

> > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough

 

>

 

> > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I

 

>

 

> > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

 

>

 

> > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

 

>

 

> > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also in

 

>

 

> > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of which

 

>

 

> > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according to Bhrigu

 

>

 

> > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

 

>

 

> > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

 

>

 

> > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

 

>

 

> > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

 

>

 

> > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I shall be

 

>

 

> > glad to have your views on this.

 

>

 

> >

 

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> >

 

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> >

 

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> > Regards

 

>

 

> >

 

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> >

 

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> >

 

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> > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

 

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Thanks! However couple of points -

 

1. by this logic, should Jupiter be considered strong in Aries (as Saturn is

debilitated in Aries).

2. I was trying to search for this topic in the archive, and came up with

message 1175. Sounds like that this reason for Jupiter loosing its power in

Libra came up after this message was posted.

 

Nir.

 

, " Ash's Corner " <kas

wrote:

>

> Dear Vamsee and NS,

>

> Bingo !!!

>

> The key is that Libra is the unccha sign of Shani.

>

> Therefore the logic is that when Guru is in the

>

> - Sign of Shani (i.e. own sign is Cap and Mool trikon is Aqu)

> - Nakshatra of Shani

> - Navamsa of Shani

> - And Libra which is the uncha sign of Shani, Guru then looses its

ability to check the delay of Shani.

>

>

> Vamsee:

>

> I do not know about Karmic debt etc, those things are all mythological or

philosophical so that does not make it scientific. We will stick to science

here and concrete logic. The logic which you have given is perfect about Libra

being the unccha sign of Shani and its where Shani is powerful therefore Guru

looses its ability to check the delay of Shani.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

On Behalf Of Joe maya

> Wednesday April 21, 2010 7:14 PM

>

> Re: Re: Predicting Marriage of a Native

>

>

> Hi Ash,

>

> Is it because Libra is the exaltation sign for Saturn.

> And where Saturn is exalted, a head priest like Jupiter cannot work.

> I mean, when Karmic debts are at a peak, it would tie the hands of Jupiter

from being benign.

>

> Regards,

> Vamsee

>

> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, ashsam73 <kas wrote:

>

> hmmm... ok.. I shall wait for other members to think over it.

>

> Take some more time and think over it. I know you will get it.

>

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

<%40> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> >

> > No idea. Are you hinting at Venus and Saturn being natural samdharmi. And,

if Jupiter is in Libra, there is 4:10 relation with Capricorn and 5:9 with

Aquirius?

> >

> > Nir.

> >

> >

> >

<%40> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > That is fine, however its not what I was looking for.

> > >

> > > I have given you hint in my mail as well. Think more over it and let me

know.

> > >

> > > Go with the basic. The answer or the hint is in my earlier mail.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

<%40> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In an Aries lagna chart (kalpurush chart), Jupiter as a lord of 12th

placed in Libra will be in 8th house from 12th. It will loose its karakatwa (I

think this is the right word!), and as such will become weak.

> > > >

> > > > Nir.

> > > >

<%40> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Nir,

> > > > >

> > > > > Just think over this more carefully. What are the condition under

which Ju cannot check the delay of Saturn?

> > > > >

> > > > > When Ju is in

> > > > >

> > > > > - Sign of Sa (own sign and MT)

> > > > > - Nak of Sa

> > > > > - Navamsa of Sa

> > > > > - Ju is in Libra

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, what is special about libra for Ju not being able to check the

delay...

> > > > >

> > > > > Think and let me know.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

<%40> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks Ash for you mail. In this chart, Jupiter is in Libra in

navamsa. Will its aspect on Saturn in navamsa check any delay? I assume that

since Jupiter in Libra is weak, its aspect on Saturn will not check any delay.

Am I correct?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nir.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

<%40> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come

together in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1

so if 2 planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15

then they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is

irrespective of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are

seeing the reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore

that we use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this

principle.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of

Sa. It still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of

Saturn. If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for

Sa will become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will

reduce the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in

the WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

<%40> , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 21.04.10

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Questions:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love

relationship due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in

both D-1 and D-9.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9

position enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> > > > > > > > I think that for the majority of the events in life there are

yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and simultaneously

there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the

most important role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju +

Sa points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role

in the events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s

personality which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from

time to time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect

on the 11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve

cannot be termed as a strong check.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1

and D-9 charts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of

the laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to

love affair.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong

significator Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect

of Ju is malefic.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the

generally prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is

right now also needs to be taken into account.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing

yoga’s for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of

the occurrence of affair.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find

that there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors

(Ju in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite

house lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20

degrees and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not

there and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very

strong; this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I

would like our Moderators to throw might on this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to

this facet gets tilted towards unhappiness.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in

keeping the unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by

the couple concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know

the exact feeling of the partners.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Nir,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The only event that I

> > > > > > > > could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post

graduate degree

> > > > > > > > from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August

2007 through

> > > > > > > > Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> > > > > > > > the foreign country in September 2009.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The reasons for not

> > > > > > > > considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is

aspecting

> > > > > > > > Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yes, This native's

> > > > > > > > chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of

Lagna Lord and

> > > > > > > > the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married

life

> > > > > > > > is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also Nikhleshji has

> > > > > > > > given nice explanations.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Nikhleshji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Very good analysis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Since Saturn the delay

> > > > > > > > causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a

mutual (1:7) aspect

> > > > > > > > between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector.

Additionally

> > > > > > > > as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it

to the 2nd

> > > > > > > > sector.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As regards the

> > > > > > > > relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is

also a

> > > > > > > > possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any

such relationship

> > > > > > > > because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator

planet Venus

> > > > > > > > both in Rasi and Navamsa?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Bala

> > > > > > > > Subramanian)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

<%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 17.04.10

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to

happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore

when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the

event in the 1st sector itself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th

Sept 2010.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses

A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points

(20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is

also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD

plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and

with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give

event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing

planet).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power

planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious

from other planetary combinations as well.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for

evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively

stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and

the native’s personality (1st house) also has

Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has

good control over this native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or

results.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances

with females developed into an affair.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it

is observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already

happened.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and

there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the

affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit

which crosses to the 2nd sector.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 16th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > April 2010

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > Dear Members.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We are going

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male

native who is in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the marriageable age.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The following are the birth details.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Chart is of a male member.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Date of Birth 4th May,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Planet

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Degrees

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nakshatra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 7 Ge 25

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ardra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Su

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 21 Ar 7

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bharani

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 26 Ta 23

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mrigashira

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ma

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > MaR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 0 Sc 36

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Visakha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > MeR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3 Ar 39

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > JuR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 20 Sg 12

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > P.Asadha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 9 Ar 39

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SaR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 20 Li 17

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Visakha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 15 Ta 13

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohini

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 15 Sc 13

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anuradha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sa

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The birth time of the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it

when the native

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for

job placement.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The first thing that strikes

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th

house in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in

Libra Navamsa. While

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage,

the second thing

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there

are no zeros in SAV

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not

greater than 43

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No

marriage is not

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for

the 5th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter

and

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sun have low points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So when we look into

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From Rasi Chart:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of

marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lord are again in 6:8 position.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From Navamsa Chart:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be

moderate but one

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > will try to dominate the other.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be

tolerable.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and

Mercury. The

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and

hence it is not

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by

Jupiter(malefic

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus,

but here since the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus

gets spoiled.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally

represented by

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is

being

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not

taken into

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars

and Saturn have

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but

for the fact

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the

6th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic

house becomes a

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have

more points (i.e.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going

affect much. In

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in

both Rasi and

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at

least moderately both

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > by Saturn and Jupiter.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Next is the Functional

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in

the 12th,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is

conjoined

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon

(in whose

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus

for the 12th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect

of 6th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can

conclude that

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The SAV points for the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 28.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One more thing to be

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord

Mercury is having a

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz.

marriage house is

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to get some deficiency.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to be a bed of roses.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart 4 planets

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all

these are going to

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B

by placement or

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > aspect.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now let us turn towards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > timing of marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The position of Saturn

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full

delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can

moderate the delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the

delay to be over

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting

approximately 10 months

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period

of 26 Years and 8

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > months.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There is no Jupiter

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is

possible. The native

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not

give any allowance

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage

age comes after

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by

Jupiter say the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the

period for time of

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > marriage is ripe now.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars

are

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12

respectively. So any one

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE

is Venus who will

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > be more eager to give the results.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The current Antara that

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is

13-11-2009 to

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is

likely to happen

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > on 21st July 2011.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn is neither LoD

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house.

Mars

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of

Mars. Mars having

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is

Lord of 6th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again

Mars is placed in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give

good

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the

significating

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub

period.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The next Antara is that

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in

worksheet. Hence no

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does

not also aspect

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in

the first part of

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mercury Antara.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Uptil now, members if

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are

welcome.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The real question I want

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to ask the members is this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Is it possible for the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Antara?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There is a reason

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > behind this question. I have to give you some background of

myself now. I have

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have

analysed the timing

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An

elaborate writing on my

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they

were kind enough

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to edit the same which is going to be published in an

astrological magazine. I

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published).

But they are all

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper

reasons for the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is

different. Also in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other

theories of which

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present

case according to Bhrigu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the

native

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so

many charts I

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another

system of

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my

analysis? I shall be

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > glad to have your views on this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear NS,

 

When Ju is in Aries, it can check the delay of Saturn. As it will not be in

navamsa of Saturn nor is there any nakshatra of Saturn. However, when Guru is

from 10 deg to 13deg40 it can't check the delay of Saturn.

 

Message 1175 is different. Here we are discussing why Ju in libra is unable to

check the delay of Saturn. We are not discussing the property of Guru in libra

which spoils marital life. One is dealing with Timing of event and the other is

the quality. Don't confuse the two.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

>

> Thanks! However couple of points -

>

> 1. by this logic, should Jupiter be considered strong in Aries (as Saturn is

debilitated in Aries).

> 2. I was trying to search for this topic in the archive, and came up with

message 1175. Sounds like that this reason for Jupiter loosing its power in

Libra came up after this message was posted.

>

> Nir.

>

> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vamsee and NS,

> >

> > Bingo !!!

> >

> > The key is that Libra is the unccha sign of Shani.

> >

> > Therefore the logic is that when Guru is in the

> >

> > - Sign of Shani (i.e. own sign is Cap and Mool trikon is Aqu)

> > - Nakshatra of Shani

> > - Navamsa of Shani

> > - And Libra which is the uncha sign of Shani, Guru then looses its

ability to check the delay of Shani.

> >

> >

> > Vamsee:

> >

> > I do not know about Karmic debt etc, those things are all mythological or

philosophical so that does not make it scientific. We will stick to science

here and concrete logic. The logic which you have given is perfect about Libra

being the unccha sign of Shani and its where Shani is powerful therefore Guru

looses its ability to check the delay of Shani.

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

On Behalf Of Joe maya

> > Wednesday April 21, 2010 7:14 PM

> >

> > Re: Re: Predicting Marriage of a Native

> >

> >

> > Hi Ash,

> >

> > Is it because Libra is the exaltation sign for Saturn.

> > And where Saturn is exalted, a head priest like Jupiter cannot work.

> > I mean, when Karmic debts are at a peak, it would tie the hands of Jupiter

from being benign.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Vamsee

> >

> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, ashsam73 <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > hmmm... ok.. I shall wait for other members to think over it.

> >

> > Take some more time and think over it. I know you will get it.

> >

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> >

<%40> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > >

> > > No idea. Are you hinting at Venus and Saturn being natural samdharmi. And,

if Jupiter is in Libra, there is 4:10 relation with Capricorn and 5:9 with

Aquirius?

> > >

> > > Nir.

> > >

> > >

> > >

<%40> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > That is fine, however its not what I was looking for.

> > > >

> > > > I have given you hint in my mail as well. Think more over it and let me

know.

> > > >

> > > > Go with the basic. The answer or the hint is in my earlier mail.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > >

<%40> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In an Aries lagna chart (kalpurush chart), Jupiter as a lord of 12th

placed in Libra will be in 8th house from 12th. It will loose its karakatwa (I

think this is the right word!), and as such will become weak.

> > > > >

> > > > > Nir.

> > > > >

<%40> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Nir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just think over this more carefully. What are the condition under

which Ju cannot check the delay of Saturn?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When Ju is in

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Sign of Sa (own sign and MT)

> > > > > > - Nak of Sa

> > > > > > - Navamsa of Sa

> > > > > > - Ju is in Libra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now, what is special about libra for Ju not being able to check the

delay...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Think and let me know.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

<%40> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks Ash for you mail. In this chart, Jupiter is in Libra in

navamsa. Will its aspect on Saturn in navamsa check any delay? I assume that

since Jupiter in Libra is weak, its aspect on Saturn will not check any delay.

Am I correct?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nir.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

<%40> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come

together in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1

so if 2 planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15

then they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is

irrespective of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are

seeing the reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore

that we use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this

principle.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power

of Sa. It still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of

Saturn. If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for

Sa will become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will

reduce the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in

the WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

<%40> , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 21.04.10

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Questions:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love

relationship due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in

both D-1 and D-9.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9

position enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> > > > > > > > > I think that for the majority of the events in life there are

yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and simultaneously

there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the

most important role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju +

Sa points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role

in the events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s

personality which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from

time to time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its

aspect on the 11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on

Ve cannot be termed as a strong check.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1

and D-9 charts.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of

the laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to

love affair.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong

significator Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect

of Ju is malefic.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the

generally prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is

right now also needs to be taken into account.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing

yoga’s for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of

the occurrence of affair.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find

that there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors

(Ju in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite

house lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20

degrees and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not

there and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very

strong; this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I

would like our Moderators to throw might on this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant

to this facet gets tilted towards unhappiness.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in

keeping the unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by

the couple concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know

the exact feeling of the partners.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > Dear Nir,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The only event that I

> > > > > > > > > could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post

graduate degree

> > > > > > > > > from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in

August 2007 through

> > > > > > > > > Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> > > > > > > > > the foreign country in September 2009.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The reasons for not

> > > > > > > > > considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is

aspecting

> > > > > > > > > Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yes, This native's

> > > > > > > > > chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position

of Lagna Lord and

> > > > > > > > > the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married

life

> > > > > > > > > is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also Nikhleshji has

> > > > > > > > > given nice explanations.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhleshji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Very good analysis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Since Saturn the delay

> > > > > > > > > causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a

mutual (1:7) aspect

> > > > > > > > > between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector.

Additionally

> > > > > > > > > as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone

it to the 2nd

> > > > > > > > > sector.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As regards the

> > > > > > > > > relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage

is also a

> > > > > > > > > possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any

such relationship

> > > > > > > > > because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator

planet Venus

> > > > > > > > > both in Rasi and Navamsa?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Bala

> > > > > > > > > Subramanian)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

<%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 17.04.10

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58;

Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to

happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore

when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the

event in the 1st sector itself.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th

Sept 2010.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses

A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points

(20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which

is also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is

LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage

and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to

give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay

causing planet).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power

planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This aspect of native’s life is quite

obvious from other planetary combinations as well.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for

evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively

stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu

and the native’s personality (1st house) also has

Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has

good control over this native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or

results.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The native has strong chances of of letting his

acquaintances with females developed into an affair.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it

is observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already

happened.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native

and there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the

affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit

which crosses to the 2nd sector.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

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> > > > > > > > > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

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> > > > > > > > > > 16th

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> > > > > > > > > > April 2010

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> > > > > > > > > > Dear Members.

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > We are going

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a

male native who is in

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the marriageable age.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The following are the birth details.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Chart is of a male member.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth 4th May,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

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> > > > > > > > > > Visakha

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> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > MeR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3 Ar 39

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > JuR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 20 Sg 12

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > P.Asadha

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 9 Ar 39

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > SaR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 20 Li 17

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Visakha

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ra

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 15 Ta 13

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rohini

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 15 Sc 13

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Anuradha

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sa

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The birth time of the

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it

when the native

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for

job placement.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The first thing that strikes

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th

house in

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in

Libra Navamsa. While

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the first will be contributing towards delay of the

marriage, the second thing

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there

are no zeros in SAV

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not

greater than 43

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No

marriage is not

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points

for the 5th

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn,

Jupiter and

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sun have low points.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So when we look into

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like

this:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > From Rasi Chart:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of

marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > lord are again in 6:8 position.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > From Navamsa Chart:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would

be moderate but one

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > will try to dominate the other.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would

be tolerable.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and

Mercury. The

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and

hence it is not

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by

Jupiter(malefic

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus,

but here since the

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus

gets spoiled.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally

represented by

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is

being

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are

not taken into

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both

Mars and Saturn have

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral

but for the fact

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the

6th

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a

malefic house becomes a

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not

have more points (i.e.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not

going affect much. In

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun

in both Rasi and

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at

least moderately both

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > by Saturn and Jupiter.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Next is the Functional

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed

in the 12th,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is

conjoined

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon

(in whose

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus

for the 12th

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the

aspect of 6th

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can

conclude that

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The SAV points for the

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 28.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > One more thing to be

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord

Mercury is having a

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B

viz. marriage house is

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > to get some deficiency.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not

going

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > to be a bed of roses.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In this chart 4 planets

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all

these are going to

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house

B by placement or

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > aspect.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now let us turn towards

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > timing of marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The position of Saturn

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full

delay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can

moderate the delay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for

the delay to be over

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting

approximately 10 months

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period

of 26 Years and 8

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > months.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > There is no Jupiter

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is

possible. The native

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not

give any allowance

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage

age comes after

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by

Jupiter say the

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the

period for time of

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > marriage is ripe now.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon,

Mars are

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12

respectively. So any one

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE

is Venus who will

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > be more eager to give the results.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The current Antara that

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is

13-11-2009 to

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event

is likely to happen

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > on 21st July 2011.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn is neither LoD

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th

house. Mars

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of

Mars. Mars having

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars

is Lord of 6th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again

Mars is placed in

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give

good

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the

significating

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his

sub period.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The next Antara is that

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in

worksheet. Hence no

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury

does not also aspect

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in

the first part of

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mercury Antara.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Uptil now, members if

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are

welcome.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The real question I want

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > to ask the members is this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Is it possible for the

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Antara?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > There is a reason

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > behind this question. I have to give you some background of

myself now. I have

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have

analysed the timing

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An

elaborate writing on my

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and

they were kind enough

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > to edit the same which is going to be published in an

astrological magazine. I

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published).

But they are all

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper

reasons for the

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is

different. Also in

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other

theories of which

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present

case according to Bhrigu

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the

native

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so

many charts I

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another

system of

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my

analysis? I shall be

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > glad to have your views on this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

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Dear NS,If we are talking of gradual empowerment of Jupiter in the 12 houses, where in Libra he is of no strength, Such would be the case.If the above is the case, we are redefining Jupiters exaltation from Cancer to Aries ( calling him very strong in Aries ), which is not right.

But to my understanding, What we are adhering here to, is that, When Ju is placed in Sa's exaltation, he will not go powerless, rather he wouldnot interfere in checking saturn and there by causing delay - what we are terming as Ju Delay in Nuptials.

If what I said is not right, Please correct me Ash.Regards,Vamsee.On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:54 PM, nirvana_seeker3 <nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks! However couple of points -

 

1. by this logic, should Jupiter be considered strong in Aries (as Saturn is debilitated in Aries).

2. I was trying to search for this topic in the archive, and came up with message 1175. Sounds like that this reason for Jupiter loosing its power in Libra came up after this message was posted.

 

Nir.

 

, " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Vamsee and NS,

>

> Bingo !!!

>

> The key is that Libra is the unccha sign of Shani.

>

> Therefore the logic is that when Guru is in the

>

> - Sign of Shani (i.e. own sign is Cap and Mool trikon is Aqu)

> - Nakshatra of Shani

> - Navamsa of Shani

> - And Libra which is the uncha sign of Shani, Guru then looses its ability to check the delay of Shani.

>

>

> Vamsee:

>

> I do not know about Karmic debt etc, those things are all mythological or philosophical so that does not make it scientific. We will stick to science here and concrete logic. The logic which you have given is perfect about Libra being the unccha sign of Shani and its where Shani is powerful therefore Guru looses its ability to check the delay of Shani.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> On Behalf Of Joe maya

> Wednesday April 21, 2010 7:14 PM

>

> Re: Re: Predicting Marriage of a Native

>

>

> Hi Ash,

>

> Is it because Libra is the exaltation sign for Saturn.

> And where Saturn is exalted, a head priest like Jupiter cannot work.

> I mean, when Karmic debts are at a peak, it would tie the hands of Jupiter from being benign.

>

> Regards,

> Vamsee

>

> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, ashsam73 <kas wrote:

>

> hmmm... ok.. I shall wait for other members to think over it.

>

> Take some more time and think over it. I know you will get it.

>

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> <%40> , " nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> >

> > No idea. Are you hinting at Venus and Saturn being natural samdharmi. And, if Jupiter is in Libra, there is 4:10 relation with Capricorn and 5:9 with Aquirius?

> >

> > Nir.

> >

> >

> > <%40> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > That is fine, however its not what I was looking for.

> > >

> > > I have given you hint in my mail as well. Think more over it and let me know.

> > >

> > > Go with the basic. The answer or the hint is in my earlier mail.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > <%40> , " nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In an Aries lagna chart (kalpurush chart), Jupiter as a lord of 12th placed in Libra will be in 8th house from 12th. It will loose its karakatwa (I think this is the right word!), and as such will become weak.

> > > >

> > > > Nir.

> > > > <%40> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Nir,

> > > > >

> > > > > Just think over this more carefully. What are the condition under which Ju cannot check the delay of Saturn?

> > > > >

> > > > > When Ju is in

> > > > >

> > > > > - Sign of Sa (own sign and MT)

> > > > > - Nak of Sa

> > > > > - Navamsa of Sa

> > > > > - Ju is in Libra

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, what is special about libra for Ju not being able to check the delay...

> > > > >

> > > > > Think and let me know.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > <%40> , " nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks Ash for you mail. In this chart, Jupiter is in Libra in navamsa. Will its aspect on Saturn in navamsa check any delay? I assume that since Jupiter in Libra is weak, its aspect on Saturn will not check any delay. Am I correct?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nir.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%40> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come together in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1 so if 2 planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15 then they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is irrespective of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are seeing the reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore that we use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this principle.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of Sa. It still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of Saturn. If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for Sa will become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will reduce the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in the WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 21.04.10

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Questions:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and D-9.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> > > > > > > > I think that for the majority of the events in life there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most important role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in the events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s personality which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from time to time.

 

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on the 11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot be termed as a strong check.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and D-9 charts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love affair.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong significator Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect of Ju is malefic.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now also needs to be taken into account.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence of affair.

 

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20 degrees and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not there and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong; this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would like our Moderators to throw might on this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this facet gets tilted towards unhappiness.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping the unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the couple concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the exact feeling of the partners.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > Dear Nir,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The only event that I

> > > > > > > > could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post graduate degree

> > > > > > > > from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007 through

> > > > > > > > Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> > > > > > > > the foreign country in September 2009.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The reasons for not

> > > > > > > > considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

> > > > > > > > Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yes, This native's

> > > > > > > > chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna Lord and

> > > > > > > > the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

> > > > > > > > is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also Nikhleshji has

> > > > > > > > given nice explanations.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Nikhleshji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Very good analysis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Since Saturn the delay

> > > > > > > > causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual (1:7) aspect

> > > > > > > > between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

> > > > > > > > as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to the 2nd

> > > > > > > > sector.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As regards the

> > > > > > > > relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

> > > > > > > > possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such relationship

> > > > > > > > because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet Venus

> > > > > > > > both in Rasi and Navamsa?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Bala

> > > > > > > > Subramanian)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 17.04.10

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in the 1st sector itself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary combinations as well.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results.

 

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females developed into an affair.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses to the 2nd sector.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 16th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > April 2010

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Members.

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We are going

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who is in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the marriageable age.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The following are the birth details.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Chart is of a male member.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Date of Birth 4th May,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

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> > > > > > > > > Degrees

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> > > > > > > > > 3 Ar 39

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> > > > > > > > > Aswini

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> > > > > > > > > Ke

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> > > > > > > > > 20 Sg 12

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> > > > > > > > > P.Asadha

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> > > > > > > > > Aswini

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> > > > > > > > > Ke

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> > > > > > > > > 20 Li 17

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> > > > > > > > > Visakha

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> > > > > > > > > 15 Ta 13

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> > > > > > > > > Rohini

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> > > > > > > > > 15 Sc 13

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anuradha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sa

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The birth time of the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the native

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The first thing that strikes

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second thing

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sun have low points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So when we look into

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From Rasi Chart:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lord are again in 6:8 position.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From Navamsa Chart:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but one

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > will try to dominate the other.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect much. In

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least moderately both

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > by Saturn and Jupiter.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Next is the Functional

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The SAV points for the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 28.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One more thing to be

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is having a

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage house is

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to get some deficiency.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to be a bed of roses.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart 4 planets

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are going to

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by placement or

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > aspect.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now let us turn towards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > timing of marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The position of Saturn

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be over

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > months.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There is no Jupiter

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The native

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any allowance

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time of

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > marriage is ripe now.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any one

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > be more eager to give the results.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The current Antara that

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to happen

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > on 21st July 2011.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn is neither LoD

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars having

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The next Antara is that

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence no

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also aspect

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part of

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mercury Antara.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Uptil now, members if

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The real question I want

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to ask the members is this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Is it possible for the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Antara?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There is a reason

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I have

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the timing

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of which

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according to Bhrigu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

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> > > > > > > > > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I shall be

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> > > > > > > > > glad to have your views on this.

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Dear Ash,Why is it that Jupiter cannot check the Sa delay when in Aries 10deg to 13deg 40?He is neither in Sa's star of Sa Navamsa.Am I overlooking something here?

Please guide.Regards,VamseeOn Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Joe maya <joequest wrote:

Dear NS,If we are talking of gradual empowerment of Jupiter in the 12 houses, where in Libra he is of no strength, Such would be the case.

If the above is the case, we are redefining Jupiters exaltation from Cancer to Aries ( calling him very strong in Aries ), which is not right.

But to my understanding, What we are adhering here to, is that, When Ju is placed in Sa's exaltation, he will not go powerless, rather he wouldnot interfere in checking saturn and there by causing delay - what we are terming as Ju Delay in Nuptials.

If what I said is not right, Please correct me Ash.Regards,Vamsee.

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:54 PM, nirvana_seeker3 <nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks! However couple of points -

 

1. by this logic, should Jupiter be considered strong in Aries (as Saturn is debilitated in Aries).

2. I was trying to search for this topic in the archive, and came up with message 1175. Sounds like that this reason for Jupiter loosing its power in Libra came up after this message was posted.

 

Nir.

 

, " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Vamsee and NS,

>

> Bingo !!!

>

> The key is that Libra is the unccha sign of Shani.

>

> Therefore the logic is that when Guru is in the

>

> - Sign of Shani (i.e. own sign is Cap and Mool trikon is Aqu)

> - Nakshatra of Shani

> - Navamsa of Shani

> - And Libra which is the uncha sign of Shani, Guru then looses its ability to check the delay of Shani.

>

>

> Vamsee:

>

> I do not know about Karmic debt etc, those things are all mythological or philosophical so that does not make it scientific. We will stick to science here and concrete logic. The logic which you have given is perfect about Libra being the unccha sign of Shani and its where Shani is powerful therefore Guru looses its ability to check the delay of Shani.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> On Behalf Of Joe maya

> Wednesday April 21, 2010 7:14 PM

>

> Re: Re: Predicting Marriage of a Native

>

>

> Hi Ash,

>

> Is it because Libra is the exaltation sign for Saturn.

> And where Saturn is exalted, a head priest like Jupiter cannot work.

> I mean, when Karmic debts are at a peak, it would tie the hands of Jupiter from being benign.

>

> Regards,

> Vamsee

>

> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, ashsam73 <kas wrote:

>

> hmmm... ok.. I shall wait for other members to think over it.

>

> Take some more time and think over it. I know you will get it.

>

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> <%40> , " nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> >

> > No idea. Are you hinting at Venus and Saturn being natural samdharmi. And, if Jupiter is in Libra, there is 4:10 relation with Capricorn and 5:9 with Aquirius?

> >

> > Nir.

> >

> >

> > <%40> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > That is fine, however its not what I was looking for.

> > >

> > > I have given you hint in my mail as well. Think more over it and let me know.

> > >

> > > Go with the basic. The answer or the hint is in my earlier mail.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > <%40> , " nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In an Aries lagna chart (kalpurush chart), Jupiter as a lord of 12th placed in Libra will be in 8th house from 12th. It will loose its karakatwa (I think this is the right word!), and as such will become weak.

> > > >

> > > > Nir.

> > > > <%40> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Nir,

> > > > >

> > > > > Just think over this more carefully. What are the condition under which Ju cannot check the delay of Saturn?

> > > > >

> > > > > When Ju is in

> > > > >

> > > > > - Sign of Sa (own sign and MT)

> > > > > - Nak of Sa

> > > > > - Navamsa of Sa

> > > > > - Ju is in Libra

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, what is special about libra for Ju not being able to check the delay...

> > > > >

> > > > > Think and let me know.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > <%40> , " nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks Ash for you mail. In this chart, Jupiter is in Libra in navamsa. Will its aspect on Saturn in navamsa check any delay? I assume that since Jupiter in Libra is weak, its aspect on Saturn will not check any delay. Am I correct?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nir.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%40> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - 5:9 is 5:9. If the planet are very close then they will come together in navamsa and become SD. What you are doing is for relationship or 1:1 so if 2 planets are > 15 deg apart then they are like 2:12 and if closer than 15 then they are like 4:10. Do not confuse this with 5:9. This is very specific.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - Ju aspecting Venus means Ju is checking Venus and that is irrespective of the points. When we add the layer of Ashtakavarga then we are seeing the reflection of the powers and that gets computed in the WS. Therefore that we use for Timing of Event and judge accordingly. So do not confuse this principle.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sa when it aspects LOABC or House ABC we do not check the power of Sa. It still causes delay irrespective of its points. That is the nature of Saturn. If Sa is in 5th house and with more than 4 bindus then the WS points for Sa will become very less. If lets say Sa is with 6 bindus then itself it will reduce the power in WS by 18. If its with 2 bindus then it will ADD 18 points in the WS so based on that we can find the timing of event.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 21.04.10

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Questions:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Is there a possibility that there may not be a love relationship due to aspect of Jupiter on strongest significator planet Venus in both D-1 and D-9.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Will the position of Lagna Lord and the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life is a big question to be seen?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramanian ji,

> > > > > > > > I think that for the majority of the events in life there are yoga’s acting in the favour of their implementation and simultaneously there are yoga’s opposing their implementation.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The power of the yoga’s on each side therefore play the most important role and such powers vary with time (i.e. depending upon the Ju + Sa points), Mahadasha (showing the Karaktwa), Antardasha (playing a bigger role in the events getting implemented) and quite importantly on the native’s personality which also has contiuous impact of the surrounding environment from time to time.

 

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here Jupiter is having 7 BAV points which means that its aspect on the 11th house which contains Venus, is malefic. So the check of Ju on Ve cannot be termed as a strong check.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Then Ju is weak for 7th house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve is in trine in D-9 and it is aspected by Saturn in both D-1 and D-9 charts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ve is also lord of 12th and Ju is also lord of 10th and one of the laws state that that linkage between 12th lord and 10th lord also leads to love affair.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > That Ju incidently is the 10th lord here aspecting strong significator Ve, is another matter but we should also not forget that the aspect of Ju is malefic.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The existing AD of Saturn, the effect of Rahu on Moon, the generally prevailing free environment in the foreign land where the native is right now also needs to be taken into account.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Therefore when we try to balance the favorable and opposing yoga’s for love affair in this case, the balance tilts in the favour of the occurrence of affair.

 

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For the 2nd question again if we do the balancing act we find that there is one 5:9 combination which favours happiness against other factors (Ju in Libra in D-9, Ju in Ve navansh, Mo and Su being 6:8 with their opposite house lords) trying to impose unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The 5:9 combination is made by Me and Ju.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If we closely watch their degrees then we find that Ju has >20 degrees and Me has >3degrees which means that the perfect 5:9 combination is not there and it is more toward 4:10 combination.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So perhaps the efficacy of this 5:9 yoga might not be very strong; this I am just thinking and am not very sure if KAS laws approve it. I would like our Moderators to throw might on this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If it is so then the net result of the yoga’s relevant to this facet gets tilted towards unhappiness.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However the one relationship of 5:9 measure, might help in keeping the unhappiness issue under wraps and prevent disclosure of the facts by the couple concerned; it may get matured with age and so one might never know the exact feeling of the partners.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

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> > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:23:35 +0530 wrote

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> > > > > > > > Dear Nir,

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The only event that I

> > > > > > > > could gather from the native's parent's are that he got a Post graduate degree

> > > > > > > > from IIT in June 2007 and left for a foreign placement in August 2007 through

> > > > > > > > Campus placement. He shifted his job in

> > > > > > > > the foreign country in September 2009.

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The reasons for not

> > > > > > > > considering the event in the 3rd sector is that Jupiter is aspecting

> > > > > > > > Saturn in Navamsa and hence I selected the 2nd part.

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> > > > > > > > Yes, This native's

> > > > > > > > chart does not seem to be a happy marriage. Will the position of Lagna Lord and

> > > > > > > > the 7th Lord in a 5:9 position enough to give a happy married life

> > > > > > > > is a big question to be seen?

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also Nikhleshji has

> > > > > > > > given nice explanations.

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> > > > > > > > Dear Nikhleshji,

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Very good analysis.

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> > > > > > > > Since Saturn the delay

> > > > > > > > causing planet is aspecting Jupiter in Rasi and there is a mutual (1:7) aspect

> > > > > > > > between them in Navamsa, I decided for the 2nd sector. Additionally

> > > > > > > > as you have stated the affliction of the karakas may postpone it to the 2nd

> > > > > > > > sector.

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As regards the

> > > > > > > > relationship turning into love and fructifying into marriage is also a

> > > > > > > > possibility. Is there a possibility that there may not be any such relationship

> > > > > > > > because of the aspect of Jupiter on the strongest significator planet Venus

> > > > > > > > both in Rasi and Navamsa?

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Bala

> > > > > > > > Subramanian)

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 17.04.10

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> > > > > > > > > Sub: Male native, 4th May, 1984; 09:05 AM; 79 E 23; 10 N 58; Ayanamsa: 22:45:0, Asc 7Ge25

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Main question by Bala ji: Is it possible for the marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn Antara?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramaian ji and Group,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart Sa is the delay causing planet and therefore when the AD of a delay causing plant comes after the delay is over, it gives the event in the 1st sector itself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Going by this Sa is capable of giving the event before 17th Sept 2010.

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Having said this, it is also a fact that Sa aspects houses A,B,C and therefore should give the event in its AD unless it has high points (20 or more), which is not the case here. Sa is very weak with only 8 points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now again if we view this chart from the 12th house, which is also reflective of marriage in ways more than one, then we find that Sa is LoD plus Sa is also placed in House E (albeit, points are not more than 4).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So it again induces us to think that Sa can give marriage and with other factors included ( no zeros in SAV chat plus Sa being capable to give event in 1st sector after the delay is over, owing to it being delay causing planet).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now looking from another angle, marriage in Sa AD (low power planet AD) generally gives unhappiness in married life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This aspect of native’s life is quite obvious from other planetary combinations as well.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here even if we multiply the Sa points with its M.F. (for evaluating quality), we still find it short of minimum required 12.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The next obvious AD for marriage i.e. Me is comparatively stronger for 7th house though it has a touch of 6th lord.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This native’s Moon is controlled by Rahu and the native’s personality (1st house) also has Rahu’s strong effect (The Asc in in Ardra Nks). So Rahu has good control over this native. Rahu tends to give immediate effects and/or results.

 

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> > > > > > > > > The native has strong chances of of letting his acquaintances with females developed into an affair.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There are chances of love marriage for him and many times it is observed that love marriages take place instantly if the delay had already happened.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I think Sa AD would give the marriage event to this native and there are good chances that it happens in the 1st sector itself. However the affliction of karak planets Mo and Ve by Rahu and Sa can extend the delay a bit which crosses to the 2nd sector.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > From yenbeeyes (Bala Subramanian)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 16th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > April 2010

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> > > > > > > > > Dear Members.

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > Predicting Marriage for a native:

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > We are going

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to discuss the quality as well as timing of marriage of a male native who is in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the marriageable age.

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The following are the birth details.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Chart is of a male member.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Date of Birth 4th May,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1984; Time of Birth: 09:05 AM; Time Zone: IST -5:30

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Longitude: 79 E 23; Latitude: 10 N 58;

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 22:45:0

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> > > > > > > > > Planet

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Degrees

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nakshatra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord

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> > > > > > > > > 7 Ge 25

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ardra

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> > > > > > > > > Ra

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 21 Ar 7

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bharani

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ve

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> > > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 26 Ta 23

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mrigashira

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ma

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> > > > > > > > > MaR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 0 Sc 36

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Visakha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ju

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> > > > > > > > > MeR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3 Ar 39

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > JuR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 20 Sg 12

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > P.Asadha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ve

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> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ve

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 9 Ar 39

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Aswini

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ke

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SaR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 20 Li 17

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Visakha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ju

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> > > > > > > > > Ra

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> > > > > > > > > 15 Ta 13

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> > > > > > > > > Rohini

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mo

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> > > > > > > > > Ke

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 15 Sc 13

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anuradha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sa

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The birth time of the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > native is correct as I have on an earlier occasion tested it when the native

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > was about to finish his post graduation and analysed it for job placement.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The first thing that strikes

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the mind in the chart is the placement of Saturn in the 5th house in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rasi as well as Navamsa Chart and placement of Jupiter in Libra Navamsa. While

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the first will be contributing towards delay of the marriage, the second thing

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is going to disturb the family life. However, because there are no zeros in SAV

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and also because the distance between Sun and Venus is not greater than 43

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > degrees, we can safely conclude that the question of No marriage is not

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > applicable. This is also confirmed by the Worksheet points for the 5th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > as well as the 7th house. For the 5th house only Venus

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and Saturn have low points. For the 7th house Saturn, Jupiter and

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sun have low points.

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So when we look into

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the quality aspect of the marriage the scenario is like this:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From Rasi Chart:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are in 5:9 position indicating a good result out of marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are in 6:8 position indicaing disputes.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lord are again in 6:8 position.

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > From Navamsa Chart:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Lagna Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are again in 8:6 position.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Moon Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are in 1:7 position indicating the relationship would be moderate but one

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > will try to dominate the other.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Sun Lord and its 7th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord are in 2:12 position indicating the relationship would be tolerable.

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Karaka. The Natural Karaka is Venus. Venus is with Sun and Mercury. The

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > distance between Venus and Sun is more than 11 degrees and hence it is not

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > combust. But Venus is aspected by Saturn (1:7) and also by Jupiter(malefic

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > aspect). Jupiter is the only planet that can control Venus, but here since the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > aspect is malefic, he has no say in the matter. Hence Venus gets spoiled.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Further Venus is in the constellation of Ketu who is equally represented by

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars (the 6th Lord) and Saturn. In the Navamsa also Venus is being

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > aspected by both Saturn and Jupiter (Here since bindus are not taken into

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > account, we can say Venus is controlled by Jupiter). Both Mars and Saturn have

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > only 4 bindus and hence its aspect can be taken as neutral but for the fact

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > that Mars is Lord of 6th house. But here he is placed in the 6th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > house itself. Mars being a natural malefic placed in a malefic house becomes a

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> > > > > > > > > benefic if he has more points. Here, since Mars does not have more points (i.e.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > greater than 4), we can safely conclude that Mars is not going affect much. In

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > addition Saturn is also aspecting one of the luminaries Sun in both Rasi and

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Navamsa. So the conclusion is that Venus gets afflicted at least moderately both

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Next is the Functional

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Karaka Moon. Moon has got very low points (1). Being placed in the 12th,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it may increase the value of the 12th house. But he is conjoined

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > with Rahu. Rahu is going to behave more like Venus than Moon (in whose

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > constellation he is placed) due to more AV points for Venus for the 12th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > house (i.e. More than Moon). Moon is again getting the aspect of 6th

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord Mars though in Navamsa he is not disturbed. So we can conclude that

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > overall the Functional karaka is afflicted.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The SAV points for the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5th, 7th and 12th houses are also less than

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 28.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One more thing to be

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > seen, House B is ruled by Jupiter. Its opposite house Lord Mercury is having a

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 6:8 relationship in Navamsa. Hence the result of house B viz. marriage house is

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to get some deficiency.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hence the conclusion is that life after marriage is not going

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to be a bed of roses.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart 4 planets

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > are retrograde. Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn. Hence all these are going to

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > enhance the results and all of them are connected with house B by placement or

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > aspect.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now let us turn towards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > timing of marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The position of Saturn

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > in the 5th house both in Rasi and Navamsa contribute to full delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > However, the aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in Navamsa can moderate the delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn is in 20 degree Libra in Natal Chart and hence for the delay to be over

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn has to travel 10 degree in Virgo. So deducting approximately 10 months

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > from the full delay of 27 years and 6 months we get a period of 26 Years and 8

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > months.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There is no Jupiter

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Delay. There are no zeros in SAV Hence no other delay is possible. The native

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > as on date is of 25 years and 11 months. Even if we do not give any allowance

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > for the moderation of delay caused by Jupiter, his marriage age comes after

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jan., 2011. If we are to consider the moderation of delay by Jupiter say the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > minimum of 2 years, the period is already over. Hence the period for time of

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > marriage is ripe now.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now let us turn to the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > worksheet points. For the 7th house Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars are

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the highest significators having got 20, 19, 12 and 12 respectively. So any one

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > of the 4 planets can give the result. LoD is Mercury and LoE is Venus who will

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > be more eager to give the results.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The current Antara that

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is running is that of Saturn and the total duration is 13-11-2009 to

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 26-05-2012. Since Saturn is aspected by Jupiter, the event is likely to happen

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > in the 2nd part of Saturn Antara. The 2nd part begins

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > from 17th Sep. 2010 and ends

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > on 21st July 2011.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn is neither LoD

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > nor LoE. Saturn is not having enough points for the 7th house. Mars

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is Samdharmi to Saturn as Saturn is placed in the Navamsa of Mars. Mars having

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 12 points in the worksheet can give the marriage. But Mars is Lord of 6th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > However he is placed in his own house in Rasi chart. Again Mars is placed in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the 12th house from B, hence it cannot give good results (a

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Samdharmi planet placed in the 12th house from B cannot give good

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > results). More importantly since Saturn is aspecting all the significating

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > houses, a favourable result cannot be expected during his sub period.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The next Antara is that

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > of Mercury who is LoD and is also having high points in worksheet. Hence no

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > doubt, Mercury Antara will be the final decider. Mercury does not also aspect

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > any of the significating houses. Marriage may take place in the first part of

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mercury Antara.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Uptil now, members if

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > they want to contribute or dispute some of the points are welcome.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The real question I want

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to ask the members is this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Is it possible for the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > marriage to happen during the 2nd or 3rd part of Saturn

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Antara?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There is a reason

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > behind this question. I have to give you some background of myself now. I have

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > collected nearly 200 charts from known persons and I have analysed the timing

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > of marriage in all the charts using KAS principles. (An elaborate writing on my

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > study has already been forwarded to Guruji and Ashji and they were kind enough

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to edit the same which is going to be published in an astrological magazine. I

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > shall inform the members as soon as the same is published). But they are all

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > events that have happened and it becomes easy to give proper reasons for the

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > event from the rules studied by us. Here the situation is different. Also in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > all the cases I have studied, I have tested them with other theories of which

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > one powerful system is of Bhrigu Paddhathi. In the present case according to Bhrigu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Paddhati the marriage is to happen in the 27th year of the native

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > which is from 4th May 2010 to 4th May 2011. Members should

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > not think that I am against KAS or some such thing. When so many charts I

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > tested were falling within the rules of both KAS and another system of

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > astrology why not this chart? Am I missing something in my analysis? I shall be

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > glad to have your views on this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yenbeeyes (Balasubramanian)

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