Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Hi Kay, Jan and others.. Here's a good source for me, on these kinds of topics: " Superior Nutrition " , by Dr. Herbert M. Shelton. (my copy is the 15th printing, 1994; ISBN # 0-9606948-1-1 Quoting from the end of the introduction to this book, Shelton says: " But I ask no reader to take anything in this book as truth merely because I have put it into the book. I ask, instead, thast my readers thijk, investigate and test and find out for themselves whether what I say is true or false. Take no man as you guide, Truth alone should guide you. If I speak not the truth, if I err, if I am wrong, cast aside what I say and seek elsewhere. Mistake not authority for truth, but make truth your authority. Usde your own thinking power and exercise your own ability to test all things and hold fast that which is good. " I personally find it very helpful to look at these topics from another perspective: what is really being discussed, and driven by what/whom? In this instance what I see being discussed is in more of a general nature about deficiency. And as soon as I see it in those terms, I utter and " ahhhh....., yes, the ol' deficiency argument. " Chapter XV of above quoted book gives an excellent base for looking at, and talking about, deficiency. " Deficiency is a lack. It means that there is something missing. A deficiency disease is one 'due to lack of essential constitutents in the diet, such as vitamins;' or, it is one 'due to defective metabolism.' " He then goes on to comment about berrri-beri, scurvy and pellagra, etc, and concludes his 2nd paragraph with : " ...'deficiency diseases' are rarely due to deficient diets, but that they are, in most instances, due to defective metabolism. " p.97) I think Kay took a grand stab at starting the conversation about Nature/higher power " errors " - I find it highly unlikely and improbable that humans are the only species that cannot receive everything that they need from their correct natural dietary. On the contrary, I find that we can, and do, get *everything* that we need from our natural dietary, which I can best describe as " ...whole, raw, fresh, ripe organic or better fruits, vegys, nuts and seeds.... " So, for me, the 1st point, about what is the topic, and the topice is deficiency: it's an absolute non-event. Not one worth worrying about, *if* I eat as above. (see below for Shelton's comment on what worrying does to us..) The more I see of these " deficiency " myths, the more they all look the same: create a " fear " , feed the fear, cure the fear. no thanks! now, for the 2nd point, about who stands to benefit from such a thought? yup, the one and only " medical myth machine " - creates myths, and supplies diagnoses, and drugs (supplements?) to cure. I think I've seen this model somewhere before: protein, by the meat industry, calcium from the dairy industry, etc..etc...it's the same story, just repackaged! Shelton concludes the chapter thusly: [ " if a few people out of a community of well-fed, healthy looking people, living on very much the same foods from the same sources, show evidences of deficiency, while the rest of the people of the community enjoyed ordinary health, there must be something else than diet in the lives of the few who showed efficiency to account for the deficiency. If these few are failing to assimilate the minerals and vitamins and amino acids contained in their foods, there must be causes other than dietary to account for the failure of assimilation. These other factors that impair the nutrition of the body are ignored by the " biochemist. " But it should be obvious that if they fail to assimilate the minerals and vitamins brought to them and their foods, the cause lies, not in the foods, but in there doing other habits of living. It is necessary to examine these people, to determine their personal habits, individual environments, manner of cooking, their state of mind, their poised or overworked a motions, they're overeating, wrong eating, lack of sleep, their working habits, etc.. We must do this in order that we may discover the cause of their failure of assimilation. Worry can cause as much deficiency as wrong diet. Emotional irritations , frustrations, inner conflicts, disappointments, grief, anxiety, etc., are among the common causes of nutritional impairment. Not until we have found and corrected the causes of impairment is there a possibility of restoring normal nutrition in these patients. Besides a correction of the habits of living, these people need physical and mental rest. They may even need physiological rest (fasting), they said they do not need a visit from the boys of the laboratory. They do not need drugging. " ] Hope this provides another way of looking at it. all the best, Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 On Sep 28, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Bob Farrell wrote: > Quoting from the end of the introduction to this book, Shelton says: > > " But I ask no reader to take anything in this book as truth > merely because I have put it into the book. I ask, instead, > thast my readers thijk, investigate and test and find out for > themselves whether what I say is true or false. Take no man as you > guide, Truth alone should guide you. Sounds like philosophical pie in the sky -- essentially meaningless for all practical purposes. How is an individual supposed to investigate and test to determine the " truth " of eating flax seeds??? Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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