Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Nora Lenz Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:42 AM Re: [Rawschool] Cancer, children & NH Philosophy - a bit OT The enormous amount of physical evidence that exists which explains disease and leaves virtually no questions unanswered (at least not the questions that we need answered in order to know what we need to do to stay healthy) means we needn't look to unprovable, speculative explanations such as that people are subconsciously 'choosing' to die. There are perfectly observable, sensible, and reality-based explanations that account for why some people get sick and others do not, even in children. And there are also explanations for why 'energy and emotional work' sometimes effects disease and its symptoms which don't conflict with the simple, obvious truths of health and disease, and which do not necessitate fanciful or supernatural concepts. Nora _____ Sorry, Nora, but I must respectfully and vigorously disagree. What you express above is, in my view, THE great failing of almost all " natural hygiene " practitioners. They TALK of holism, of a need to incorporate diet, poise, and many other factors in order to achieve optimal health. But in reality, when the conversation turns toward emotional content, toward matters of the mind, they dive back into the physical. I suspect the reason is that they have no solutions to offer, so they simply sweep away the issue. It's a great shortcoming. From my own observations, almost 100% of those who try RF eventually fail, they just give up. So there is something radically, radically wrong with our approach, something fundamentally missing. Further, that SO many people KNOW what to do (cognitively) yet don't DO what they know makes it abundantly obvious, at least to me, that the road to health, well-being, vitality, etc. lies primarily through the mind, not through the stomach. It is absolutely well documented, on multiple occasions, in multiple sources, and in multiple places, that people CAN exert amazing control over the body, even to the extent of manipulating their own physiology, or of drinking an " obviously " fatal quantity of some poison and remaining entirely unaffected. It is also well documented that MANY cases of dysfunction and " disease, " ranging from simple pains to metastasizing cancer, quite literally vanish in the face of certain " energy work, " all of which involves some refocusing of the mind. I have personally achieved some such results with myself and others. Further, there are many, many cases of people who eat a TERRIBLE diet and yet live disease-free to a ripe old age, at least by mainstream standards. (By this I mean, we can all probably live MUCH longer than we believe.) I will have much more to say about this in the future. For now, if we truly wish to practice and teach holism, then let's face straight-on that which most people experience as the most challenging area of all...the mystery of the mind. Best to all, Elchanan -- ------------------------ [ SECURITY NOTICE ] ------------------------ rawfood , rawschool . For your security, vlinfo digitally signed this message on 13 July 2005 at 19:35:12 UTC. Verify this digital signature at http://www.ciphire.com/verify. ------------------- [ CIPHIRE DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] ------------------- Q2lwaGlyZSBTaWcuAVdyYXdmb29kQHlhaG9vZ3JvdXBzLmNvbSwgcmF3c2Nob29sQHlha G9vZ3JvdXBzLmNvbQB2bGluZm9AZWFydGhsaW5rLm5ldABlbWFpbCBib2R5AKIJAAB8AH wAAAABAAAA8GzVQqIJAACbAwACAAIAAgAgWd+zucKbIEucZcbnZ7O7RcEjNJ+04fHvM/E sxjA51E8BAEHvXDx7hpKTsvAgr9D0EPgSpueSCJ3R+4yHzWz2x9XhKUmXSuOyyRCDaTqm cpVBvjAzEFZXl2V/q4lBXUe5soVgU2lnRW5k --------------------- [ END DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] --------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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