Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Awhile back, Carolyn Navarra posted to one or both of these groups regarding her experience with RF, cravings, and emotions. With Carolyn's permission, I repost her writing now, in the hope that her story may inspire others. Best, Elchanan ________ Hi everyone, I've been on and off raw for 4 years now. I'm never off raw due to not believing in raw foods or wanting to be raw. I'm off raw due to emotional times, binges (funny, my binges on cooked vegan food are the epitome of most people's idea of a very healthy diet, but they sure don't produce health in my body!), etc. When I first began raw, I aimed for 75% and found that while I experienced better health initially, I could not live in an in-between state. Any cooked foods lead to desire for more and more. Recently reading the article about the Pleasure Trap made the reason for this very clear for me. Then I went for 100% raw and experienced wonderful feelings, but at first I included grain (soaking and sprouting), and condiments, too many fats, and recipes with poor food combining. I didn't ever truly succeed on this. Then I went to all fruit and felt really great, but knew something was missing still. Then I found information about 8-1-1, Doug Graham and others like him, and Elchanan here on these lists and I made some changes that have helped me tremendously. I now eat mainly fruits, especially bananas, and leafy greens. I noticed I really liked this way of eating and how I feel. For the first month, I under-ate and it caused some problems. I actually ate to hunger and stopped when satisfied, but I was eating less than 1,000 calories a day. I didn't know this until I ran it through Nutridiary and I was more than a bit surprised. After 30 days of this, it caught up with me and I began to struggle. For a few weeks I was " winning " my struggle. Then, on May 21, I began a binge. It started by not having any food available during a long day. I was getting panicky as I knew I needed some food and I found a way to get some bananas. When we went out for dinner (pre-planned event), I had a salad as planned, then reached for tortilla chips and salsa. It started a 10 day binge. It was the most painful binge I ever experienced. Perhaps because I had eaten better than ever for the preceding couple of months. This 10 day binge hurt - I had massive headaches, it felt like my brain was swelling. My back and my joints ached. I was horrible to live with as I was very cranky. I could go on, but you get the picture. I realized I needed to do some internal work to find what inside me was behind this - mentally, emotionally, and spiritually I was hurting as much as I was physically. It took some work, but I found my personal answer. I kept hearing in my head the mantra of many " fat " books, " When food is love " and I knew that statement was NOT my answer and had caused me to stop short of going deeper into my true answer. What I found for me was,... When abuse is love. My childhood included abuse. My father was a physical abuser (I have forgiven him long ago, that is not my current issue) and my family had many currents of abuse running through our interactions. From my earliest days, I had important people in my life who were responsible for my care and nurturing offering forms of abuse rather than the love I needed. This, for me, taught that abuse is love. This answer was huge for me - I was reeling for awhile. Every time I am taking very good care of myself (throughout my life), and start feeling very good and happy, I have always done something to " sabotage " that. I see now it wasn't sabotage at all, but giving myself the form of love that I recognize so well. I've always wondered why I do this, but now I see. I recognize that binges feel horrible physically, but while my body hurts, I've noticed I then feel " right " again in that hurt. So, for me, food is not love, but instead abuse is. A much larger concept than simple food issues. When I found this answer, I was able to return to raw and the difference has surprised me yet again. Without trying to reach any specific goal except to eat in the healthiest possible way, I have resumed eating fruit and leafy greens, with a small amount (1 1/2 tsp.) of pine nuts in a salad dressing. After feeling great for days and not experiencing any problems at all, I remembered to check my calories through Nutridiary. As before, I've been eating when hungry and stopping when satisfied. Only this time, instead of eating less than 1,000 calories a day, I found my average day's calorie intake is around 2,600 calories! This stunned me! And I absolutely feel great! I am grateful for the information I have learned about optimal eating. After 4 years of learning about raw and trying recipes and failing time and again, I am pleased to learn how to make more healthful choices. If all I had at my disposal where the original raw recipe books I started with, I would still be where I was then and that is not where I want to be or how I want to feel. I am glad for the internet, for my abilities to research and learn, and also for people who share what they've learned. To everyone who contributed to my journey, Thank You Very Much! I have two young daughters who I attachment parented, extended breastfed, raised on a vegan (though not raw) diet, and now homeschool (we unschool here). The more I learn about raw, the more I am able to influence their health as well as mine. And now I'm watching my husband working on his own health and learning about raw. I decided to write and share this as my growth was so greatly affected by my realization of my abuse/love connection. That realization has been allowing me to step out of old behaviors and use what I've been learning to succeed. Carolyn -- ------------------------ [ SECURITY NOTICE ] ------------------------ rawfood , rawschool . For your security, vlinfo digitally signed this message on 13 July 2005 at 14:43:59 UTC. 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