Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Here you go: One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small. And the ones that mother gives you dont do anything at all. Go ask Alice, when shes ten feet tall. Source: Jefferson Airplane " White Rabbit " LOL Donna treazure noname <treazured wrote: Oy. I hear you on the pill diet. I'm on that too and and ()(** & ^ & *^% tired of it. (Wasn't there a song about a million years ago, one pill to wake you up, one pill....) Off the top of my head, you REALLY need a nutritionist who has experience in medical diets and is pro vegetarian. The second thing that hits (ok, third, because you and I have really similar histories), is that I am willing to bet your body is so toxic from all the meds that it is making things worse. Yeah, like I am telling you something you don't already know. So, to address what I can. Yes, you can make 2 dinners, just make either his or yours way ahead of time and freeze, toss in the microwave and Bob's your uncle. (Actually Bob was my father but...) Yeah, pain in the neck (and isn't that fun), but you need nutrition and it doesn't sound like there is anyone around there that is going to do it for you. Can you have seeds (sesame, sunflower, pepita?) or nuts (peanuts, almonds, etc) What are you doing for protein? (I use whey protein shakes for much of mine since I only have a 20 cc pouch not a stomach.) Do they have you on a good vitamin and mineral supplement or have they just thrown prescriptions at you and basically said " Pay at the window, next patient please. " As a person who was in clinical malnutrition with protein deficiency, vitamin deficiency, etc, because my docs gave me the meds and no idea on how to eat, after reading your e-mail I suspected it wouldn't be long before you were nutritionally deficient. I hope someone on the list can help you out. Best thing I can do is be supportive and warm hugs and help in kitchen/cooking logistics. Veggies good. Pain BAD. Hugs, Jeanne in Georgia (lacto-ovo veggie for a bit over 20 years) arkstitch <xstitcher wrote: I am new to the group and diabetic, but I also suffer from gout, thyroid disease, hypertension, depression, arthritis, and am allergic to the rx that they usually give so you can eat relatively normally. Soooo, I have to avoid (translates don't eat this unless you like pain) all meat, poultry, seafood, all beans (including soy beans from which most veggie burgers are made), all peas, mushrooms, asparagus, spinach, cauliflower and any other food that has purines in it or that basically has any taste. That leaves um, let's see . . . lettuce and not much else (slight exaggeration, of course) It is complicated, because the diabetic diet seems to be diametrically opposed to the gout diet. I can't be a real vegetarian because I can't/shouldn't eat some of the foods that you substitute for meat. I am also clinically positive for Lupus as well as have degenerate joint disease all through my spine. It was thought that I also had pernicious anemia, but it has been determined that it is an absorption problem and not actually pernicious anemia. I guess that's a good thing. I found a recipe for burgers that I want to try that uses ground up veggies, but my husband won't eat the way I should and I am NOT cooking two meals every night! For anyone who may not know, the gout diet says 50%+ of your diet should be carbs, but I have to count/limit those for the diabetes. Gout says avoid whole grains and diabetes say avoid white flour. I told Chanda that I joke and say I am on a medication diet because I take 19 pills a day, not counting pain meds. I've not found much that addresses these two medical issues at the same time so any ideas/suggestions that anyone has will be appreciated. Linda Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 YES! That is it! Now I can sing that all day instead of yesterday's tune " La Donna e Mobile. " Jeanne in Georgia Donnalilacflower <thelilacflower wrote: Here you go: One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small. And the ones that mother gives you dont do anything at all. Go ask Alice, when shes ten feet tall. Source: Jefferson Airplane " White Rabbit " LOL Donna treazure noname <treazured wrote: Oy. I hear you on the pill diet. I'm on that too and and ()(** & ^ & *^% tired of it. (Wasn't there a song about a million years ago, one pill to wake you up, one pill....) Off the top of my head, you REALLY need a nutritionist who has experience in medical diets and is pro vegetarian. The second thing that hits (ok, third, because you and I have really similar histories), is that I am willing to bet your body is so toxic from all the meds that it is making things worse. Yeah, like I am telling you something you don't already know. So, to address what I can. Yes, you can make 2 dinners, just make either his or yours way ahead of time and freeze, toss in the microwave and Bob's your uncle. (Actually Bob was my father but...) Yeah, pain in the neck (and isn't that fun), but you need nutrition and it doesn't sound like there is anyone around there that is going to do it for you. Can you have seeds (sesame, sunflower, pepita?) or nuts (peanuts, almonds, etc) What are you doing for protein? (I use whey protein shakes for much of mine since I only have a 20 cc pouch not a stomach.) Do they have you on a good vitamin and mineral supplement or have they just thrown prescriptions at you and basically said " Pay at the window, next patient please. " As a person who was in clinical malnutrition with protein deficiency, vitamin deficiency, etc, because my docs gave me the meds and no idea on how to eat, after reading your e-mail I suspected it wouldn't be long before you were nutritionally deficient. I hope someone on the list can help you out. Best thing I can do is be supportive and warm hugs and help in kitchen/cooking logistics. Veggies good. Pain BAD. Hugs, Jeanne in Georgia (lacto-ovo veggie for a bit over 20 years) arkstitch <xstitcher wrote: I am new to the group and diabetic, but I also suffer from gout, thyroid disease, hypertension, depression, arthritis, and am allergic to the rx that they usually give so you can eat relatively normally. Soooo, I have to avoid (translates don't eat this unless you like pain) all meat, poultry, seafood, all beans (including soy beans from which most veggie burgers are made), all peas, mushrooms, asparagus, spinach, cauliflower and any other food that has purines in it or that basically has any taste. That leaves um, let's see . . . lettuce and not much else (slight exaggeration, of course) It is complicated, because the diabetic diet seems to be diametrically opposed to the gout diet. I can't be a real vegetarian because I can't/shouldn't eat some of the foods that you substitute for meat. I am also clinically positive for Lupus as well as have degenerate joint disease all through my spine. It was thought that I also had pernicious anemia, but it has been determined that it is an absorption problem and not actually pernicious anemia. I guess that's a good thing. I found a recipe for burgers that I want to try that uses ground up veggies, but my husband won't eat the way I should and I am NOT cooking two meals every night! For anyone who may not know, the gout diet says 50%+ of your diet should be carbs, but I have to count/limit those for the diabetes. Gout says avoid whole grains and diabetes say avoid white flour. I told Chanda that I joke and say I am on a medication diet because I take 19 pills a day, not counting pain meds. I've not found much that addresses these two medical issues at the same time so any ideas/suggestions that anyone has will be appreciated. Linda Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1?/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 What a drag it is getting old Kids are different today, I hear evry mother say Mother needs something today to calm her down And though shes not really ill Theres a little yellow pill She goes running for the shelter of a mothers little helper And it helps her on her way, gets her through her busy day Things are different today, I hear evry mother say Cooking fresh food for a husbands just a drag So she buys an instant cake and she burns her frozen steak And goes running for the shelter of a mothers little helper And two help her on her way, get her through her busy day Doctor please, some more of these Outside the door, she took four more What a drag it is getting old Men just arent the same today I hear evry mother say They just dont appreciate that you get tired Theyre so hard to satisfy, you can tranquilize your mind So go running for the shelter of a mothers little helper And four help you through the night, help to minimize your plight Doctor please, some more of these Outside the door, she took four more What a drag it is getting old Lifes just much too hard today, I hear evry mother say The pusuit of happiness just seems a bore And if you take more of those, you will get an overdose No more running for the shelter of a mothers little helper They just helped you on your way, through your busy dying day Rolling Stones GB , Donnalilacflower <thelilacflower wrote: > > Here you go: > > One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small. And the ones that mother gives you dont do anything at all. Go ask Alice, when shes ten feet tall. > Source: Jefferson Airplane " White Rabbit " > > LOL Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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