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Your mom was raised on a regular farm... I have driven by feeder lots... you

don't even need to be a closer than 10 miles to smell the stink. I had

friends who grew up on farms in Northern California, they can't stand store

bought

meat.... I wouldn't know, being raised a veggie, they said there's a

DEFINITE difference between ranch/free range grown and store bought, which

probably

means feeder lot raised.

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My mom was raised on a farm and she says it isn't true what they say about

the animals being abused or that it is unhealthy for us to eat the meat. She

doesn't believe that Mad Cow actually exists. Ok whatever. I've tried to

discuss it calmly with them but to no avail. Sorry I guess I got off topic.

 

 

 

 

 

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Oh! I didn't know that little fact about Lancaster. Thanks for informing me.

Your dream would be interesting. I wish people would get informed. I have an

aunt who doesn't even want to hear about vegetarianism. She says she would

rather not know. SHe says she wouldn't be able to enjoy her steaks anymore if

she knew more. What a laugh huh? My mom was raised on a farm and she says it

isn't true what they say about the animals being abused or that it is unhealthy

for us to eat the meat. She doesn't believe that Mad Cow actually exists. Ok

whatever. I've tried to discuss it calmly with them but to no avail. Sorry I

guess I got off topic.

 

Liz

 

PS Please don't get angry with me for what my family believe. It is their

opinion not mine.

Cheryl Baker <starborn59 wrote:

 

Lancaster being the puppy mill capital of the East

keeps me from visiting and enjoying their beauty.

I wish all the veggies could get together and create

one of those intentional communities and grow our own

food, make our money and raise our kids to respect

life and be kind.

 

I know, and then I woke up right? lol

 

Cheryl

 

--- Elizabeth <ranliz524 wrote:

 

> I live in Erie. It's about 1 and a half hours from

> Buffalo NY, and

> about 2 hours from Pittsburgh,PA and Cleveland OH.

> There isn't much

> here. Pretty much a CO-OP that is open for lunch

> and some good

> Chinese and Italian places. There may be a

> restaurant here or there

> that may serve veggie options but not much else.

>

> I love Lancaster but I haven't visited since going

> Veg. PA is a

> pretty state especially in the fall.

>

> Liz

 

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Liz,

I don't think anyone here would get mad at you for

your family's beliefs - my heaven I could tell you

stories about my family!!!

I think people turn a deaf ear because if they don't

know they believe they dont have to act on it and many

are afraid to change even a little of what they've

lived a lifetime doing. It's a sad fact of human

nature and ignorance. I, for one, believe that once I

know the abuse is going on, how in the world could I

ever continue? That would make me part of the problem.

I think we need to reach the children with the

message, and raise an entire generation of health

conscious, compassionate people.

 

 

Here's a link that I recently found and it is very

informative about PA's puppymills, in paticular,

Lancaster County.

 

Cheryl

 

 

 

--- liz damon <ranliz524 wrote:

 

> Oh! I didn't know that little fact about Lancaster.

> Thanks for informing me. Your dream would be

> interesting. I wish people would get informed. I

> have an aunt who doesn't even want to hear about

> vegetarianism. She says she would rather not know.

> SHe says she wouldn't be able to enjoy her steaks

> anymore if she knew more. What a laugh huh? My

> mom was raised on a farm and she says it isn't true

> what they say about the animals being abused or that

> it is unhealthy for us to eat the meat. She doesn't

> believe that Mad Cow actually exists. Ok whatever.

> I've tried to discuss it calmly with them but to no

> avail. Sorry I guess I got off topic.

>

>

> Liz

>

> PS Please don't get angry with me for what my

> family believe. It is their opinion not mine.

> Cheryl Baker <starborn59 wrote:

>

> Lancaster being the puppy mill capital of the East

> keeps me from visiting and enjoying their beauty.

> I wish all the veggies could get together and create

> one of those intentional communities and grow our

> own

> food, make our money and raise our kids to respect

> life and be kind.

>

> I know, and then I woke up right? lol

>

> Cheryl

>

> --- Elizabeth <ranliz524 wrote:

>

> > I live in Erie. It's about 1 and a half hours from

> > Buffalo NY, and

> > about 2 hours from Pittsburgh,PA and Cleveland OH.

>

> > There isn't much

> > here. Pretty much a CO-OP that is open for lunch

> > and some good

> > Chinese and Italian places. There may be a

> > restaurant here or there

> > that may serve veggie options but not much else.

> >

> > I love Lancaster but I haven't visited since going

> > Veg. PA is a

> > pretty state especially in the fall.

> >

> > Liz

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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