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Pus count:

http://www.notmilk.com

 

We'll have to agree to disagree on a few things things. As to U. Therapy; just

because a concept is from India or prescribed from a yogi (or even believed for

centuries), doesn't necessarily make it valid. That was my point, not that

Aruvedic philosophy incorporates this concept. Sure, as a vegan, I take some

things on faith (faith that science hasn't validated those things... yet), but I

try to be careful to acknowledge what is heresay, theory, and supported fact.

Another biased attitude of from my work: all " factoids " on the MC website have

referenced cites. Too many veg'ns " spout " off statistics or facts either

verbally or on web/blogsites without providing a means to validate them (i.e., a

source).

 

I remember when acupuncture (and eating organic!) were considered truly weird.

I remember, too, studying authentic Indian cooking two decades ago ( " Lord

Krishna's Cuisine " , by Deva... 1st vegetarian cookbook to win a James Beard

Award), and learning from others about the unproven health benefits, of say,

tumeric or curry. Back then, that was " theory " (although based upon several

hundred years of use in India and possibly some " inside knowledge " so to speak).

Ironic that only in recent years has science been able to substantiate those

claims. Being part of an Ashram in the 80s (studying Agni Yoga) was considered

alien; now yoga (hatha-variants) are fairly common.

 

Anyway, there is an epidemic of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease in this

country and it's serious, even among the veg'ns. I've a backlog of articles on

saturated fat causing more problems than just high cholesterol, sugar and sodium

health issues, and so on. It's my problem that I'm sensitized to this because

of some of the work that I do. I worry too much about the new and younger

vegetarians/vegans, in that many are not aware of what's in their food or how to

be a healthy veg'n. I intend to avoid bringing this all up on this forum.

BTW: I don't think that showing the fat grams per serving is criticism. The

nutritional analysis can be a useful exercise, and one can be surprised by the

results.

 

That being said, let's table this Thread. I do not want to take up List real

estate with issues that are apparently not part of the goals of this group. I

jumped the gun a bit and intend to throttle back, lurk a bit more, and when

posting, maybe less verbosity?

 

We can agree, though, that posting recipes from other sources without credit is

not a good idea (and also, btw, illegal... I've looked into some of the law on

the copyright issues... although the ingredients and amounts are not

copyrightable; the textual description of process most certainly is). It's a

real problem for hard working cookbook authors who deserve more than people

typing their recipes into a computer and sending them around the Internet

without at least having the courtesy to credit them.

 

I don't plan to post much to this List, including recipes, for awhile. Too much

on my, ahem, plate, for the near-term. In Summer, I generally shift to a less

expansive and simple cooking regimen, focusing more on local, fresh, and

increased amount of raw, foods.

 

I do appreciate all the off-list posts from others, though, and I still think

this is a good place to hang, provide one knows the turf better.

 

Regards, Mark

Blogsite: http://www.soulveggie.com

 

 

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Message 14

" Guru Khalsa " greatyoga

Tue May 30, 2006 7:26pm(PDT)

Uncheese

 

Mark,

 

Basically, I think we are on the same page. Personally, I do not eat buttered

popcorn at movie theatres or fried tofu at every meal. This is a vegetarian

forum

and not a health forum.. I have probably sent in more posts on health than

anyone

else on this forum. I try to help educate people but not criticize. At the

same

time, people on this forum are big enough to make their owh decisions on what

they

eat. I personally do not eat eggs. However iff someone has a recipe for 10

eggs

and only eats one tenth of the recipe then that only equals one egg.

Moderation

is the key. People spend time sending in recipes and typing them up. I would

send in more too but it takes time to type them. I respect them for sending the

recipes in. If I don't like it for anyreason I just bypass it. My mother

always

said to me " If you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all. "

This can apply to this or any circumstance unless someone says something immoral

or

dangerous or another type of circumstance.

 

I am not sure what you mean about the urine therapy. Urine therapy is NOT a

part

of Ayurveda although many Ayurveds may prescribe it. Are you referring to

another

part of Ayurveda? You are right in that Chinese medicine does prescribe animal

parts sometimes.

 

I am just like you in posting. I do not post a recipe unless I credit the

source

or modify the recipe or make it up myself. I am anxiously awaiting your

modified

or appropriately credited recipes.

 

I would also like information on pus count in cheese. I never heard of that.

 

Yours in health

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I don't want to get involved in the rest of this thread, but I did

want to say something about cookbooks. I think I have bought more

cookbooks since joining this group in December than I have in the

whole of the previous 10 years put together. Being in the group and

seeing all the recipes and hearing recommendations from people has

encouraged me to go out and buy more books and cook more good food.

So the cookbook authors have nothing to fear and much to gain as far

as I can see - I've spent at least £100 on cookbooks that I almost

certainly wouldn't have spent without the inspiration of this group.

Seeing it put like that I'm suddenly not so sure that is such a good

thing for me, LOL.

Christie

 

, Mark Sutton

<soulveggie wrote:

>

> > > We can agree, though, that posting recipes from other sources

without credit is not a good idea (and also, btw, illegal... I've

looked into some of the law on the copyright issues... although the

ingredients and amounts are not copyrightable; the textual

description of process most certainly is). It's a real problem for

hard working cookbook authors who deserve more than people typing

their recipes into a computer and sending them around the Internet

without at least having the courtesy to credit them.

>

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