Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 I didn't offer on this occasion but I did help with the Vegan Society AGM creche one time before I had kids of my own, when they ran it using volunteers. I was in London Vegans and it was on a year when they ran it using volunteers from London Vegans in the good old days before I had children, when LV actually had several members who were willing to help at creches. Before I had kids I was always volunteering for all sorts. If the organisers are interested in having my support in the future with getting something organised, I do know a vegan mum who runs a children's nursery and I would be happy to ask her if she and some of her staff would be willing to run a creche at the NVF (or for the Vegan Society AGM). Don't forget that although I am not as active as you are, I have got up off my backside and done some things, such as the vegan families gatherings to build support and friendship between vegan families, because so many are isolated. I have even been unfairly criticised by other vegan parents (one mum found the vegan families group cliquey which completely shocked me as it is so untrue, we are a very friendly group because we are there for support and making friendships) and yet the critics are too often unwilling to help to improve things, even though I have been clear that we would most gratefully welcome their help with new ideas for gatherings. I also did volunteer to get a creche organised for some of the LV meetings, before they booted me out that is. I was on the brink of finding out about a local venue and I had found two women without children of their own who were willing to help with a creche for the LV meetings. I don't want to volunteer to be actually the main person in charge of running a creche for the NVF because as parents without extended family support and one of our children still under a year old, my husband and I hardly get any time together without the children as it is, we need to USE a creche for ourselves to get some time, so I would not want to be on creche duty all the time at an event. Another year when I am free for a substantial length of time, I would certainly volunteer to do a shift of an hour or two, especially if it meant getting an hour or two with someone else looking after the kids for us. It is precisely because I have always been the first type of person, the one who has done things and worked hard to solve problems and help others, that I feel it is unfair that no-one helps me when I need it. ISTR the way it was a few years ago, it was the young activists who had no kids who did all the work running the creches at such events as the SLAA Cruelty-free Xmas, because they (myself included) recognised that the parents needed to use it, and did not need to be the ones running it, because that would be what is known as a busman's holiday! Sorry to be long-winded but your implication that I am the second type of person really is so inaccurate. Obviously it is easier to get a bad reputation than a good one, you have to do a lot more good to get a good reputation than you have to do bad to get a bad reputation, and this is so unfair. Lesley , " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: > > > Why can't it be the way it was just a few years ago? > > > > Lesley > > Did you offer to help with the LVF creche? > > there seem to be two types of people, those who see what needs to be > done, get off their arses and do it, and those who say " why oh why > oh why... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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