Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Greetings, Has anyone tried a macrobiotic way of eating? I have a friend who has tried every diet around, and went macrobiotic several months ago. She has lost 22 pounds and says she feels better, has more energy than ever before. I don't know much about this way of eating, guessing that it's vegetarian. Any comments or opinions? Thanks, Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Macrobiotic diet? No haven't tried it - don't intend to do so ever. But I do know something about it, since it was very trendy when I was at university in the 60s and 70s. This from Wikipedia - but do read the rest of the article: [ALERT: Non-vegetarian material included below.] Macrobiotics is considered an approach to life rather than a diet. General Guidelines for the diet are: Whole cereal grains, especially brown rice: 50-60% Vegetables: 25-30% Beans and legumes: 5-10 % Miso soup: 5% The remainder is composed of fish and seafood, seeds and nuts, seed and nut butters, seasonings, sweeteners, fruits, and beverages. Other naturally raised animal products may be included if needed during dietary transition or according to individual needs. Read more at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrobiotic_diet I'll post more as soon as I finish feeding my hounds! LOL Love and hugs, Pat ---- http://www.care2.com/c2cvegpets (and others listed on http://beanvegan.blogspot.com) " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research. " (George Bernard Shaw) ______________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Thanks for the information, Pat. I had no idea that macrobiotics involved consuming animal products. Sorry to bring that up in this forum. Regards, Karen On 4/21/08, Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > Macrobiotic diet? No haven't tried it - don't > intend to do so ever. But I do know something > about it, since it was very trendy when I was at > university in the 60s and 70s. > > This from Wikipedia - but do read the rest of the > article: > > [ALERT: Non-vegetarian material included below.] > > Macrobiotics is considered an approach to life > rather than a diet. General Guidelines for the > diet are: > Whole cereal grains, especially brown rice: > 50-60% > Vegetables: 25-30% > Beans and legumes: 5-10 % > Miso soup: 5% > The remainder is composed of fish and seafood, > seeds and nuts, seed and nut butters, seasonings, > sweeteners, fruits, and beverages. Other > naturally raised animal products may be included > if needed during dietary transition or according > to individual needs. > > Read more at: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrobiotic_diet > > I'll post more as soon as I finish feeding my > hounds! LOL > > Love and hugs, Pat > > ---- > http://www.care2.com/c2cvegpets (and others listed on > http://beanvegan.blogspot.com) > " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and > are called medical research. " (George Bernard Shaw) > > ________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Well, it doesn't *have* to. Probably quite a few who follow that lifestyle exclude those options. I know when my father first went vegetarian, macrobiotics was the plan he followed. He took cooking courses, and it was the delicious foods like steamed bokchoi and sticky brown rice with beans that helped convince me to go vegetarian as a teenager (the other half of the equation being the health and animal rights issues; he'd play tapes in the car and read passages from Diet For A New America and others to my sister and I). My sister wasn't quite so fond of the new foods and would always describe them with a polite " It's *different*. " LOL. -Erin http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog - Karen Phillips Monday, April 21, 2008 10:19 AM Re: Macrobiotic Diet Thanks for the information, Pat. I had no idea that macrobiotics involved consuming animal products. Sorry to bring that up in this forum. Regards, Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hi Erin, and thanks for the information. Karen On 4/21/08, Erin <truepatriot wrote: > > Well, it doesn't *have* to. Probably quite a few who follow > that lifestyle exclude those options. I know when my father > first went vegetarian, macrobiotics was the plan he followed. > He took cooking courses, and it was the delicious foods like > steamed bokchoi and sticky brown rice with beans that helped > convince me to go vegetarian as a teenager (the other half of > the equation being the health and animal rights issues; he'd > play tapes in the car and read passages from Diet For A New > America and others to my sister and I). My sister wasn't > quite so fond of the new foods and would always describe them > with a polite " It's *different*. " LOL. > > -Erin > http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog > > - > Karen Phillips > <%40> > Monday, April 21, 2008 10:19 AM > Re: Macrobiotic Diet > > Thanks for the information, Pat. I had no idea that macrobiotics involved > consuming animal products. Sorry to bring that up in this forum. > Regards, > Karen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 It's OK Karen - I don't think a microbiotic diet HAS to include animal products (but some detractors do suggest that one might be deficient in V B12 and in protein - although I think we're all over that silly protein hype!) - but I'd worry, myself, about the proportions of each component of the 'diet' -but that's just me, worrying about a lot of things, eh? As for bringing it up in this forum - hey, no prob - and it was a fair question. I wonder, what was different about your friend's diet (what she/he omitted) that made the loss of 22 pounds so easy? Myself, I like the McDougall 'diet' and the Fuhrman 'diet' (yeah that one a bit more because for me it works best) even though Fuhrman allows - as do most of these wonderful people - the possibility of a little animal food (yup, including a little flesh - sorry!) in the diet. People like me just avoid it all - animals and animal products - and it works just fine. These 'diets' I feel compelled to say for the benefit of those who don't know them, are also more an approach to life than anything else - intended for people with heart problems or who would like to avoid heart problems - certainly not a 'quick fix' or fad kind of thing, although you WILL lose weight if you're already eating the wrong things. I really object (on a personal level - you can all do your own thing of course!) to 'diets' as such - weightloss diets, I mean. Likewise, I agree with the member who objects to the idea that people come to vegetarianism as a weight loss thing - it's not. You can eat badly on ANY 'diet' plan. Vegetarianism is quite a different thingie, eh? LOL Love and hugs, Pat --- Karen Phillips <kleelibby wrote: > Thanks for the information, Pat. I had no idea > that macrobiotics involved > consuming animal products. Sorry to bring that > up in this forum. > Regards, > Karen > > > On 4/21/08, Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > > > Macrobiotic diet? No haven't tried it - > don't > > intend to do so ever. But I do know something > > about it, since it was very trendy when I was > at > > university in the 60s and 70s. > > > > This from Wikipedia - but do read the rest of > the > > article: > > > > [ALERT: Non-vegetarian material included > below.] > > > > Macrobiotics is considered an approach to > life > > rather than a diet. General Guidelines for > the > > diet are: > > Whole cereal grains, especially brown rice: > > 50-60% > > Vegetables: 25-30% > > Beans and legumes: 5-10 % > > Miso soup: 5% > > The remainder is composed of fish and > seafood, > > seeds and nuts, seed and nut butters, > seasonings, > > sweeteners, fruits, and beverages. Other > > naturally raised animal products may be > included > > if needed during dietary transition or > according > > to individual needs. > > > > Read more at: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrobiotic_diet > > > > I'll post more as soon as I finish feeding my > > hounds! LOL > > > > Love and hugs, Pat > > > > ---- > > http://www.care2.com/c2cvegpets (and > others listed on > > http://beanvegan.blogspot.com) > > " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they > occur in laboratories and > > are called medical research. " (George Bernard > Shaw) > > > > > ________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Thanks, Pat. My friend who went macro cut all the " junk " out of her diet, which I believe made the difference. Donuts and french fries are vegan. but that doesn't mean that they're healthy or will assist one in weight loss. I think going on a macrobiotic eating plan made her aware of the sugar and fat she was consuming, and when cutting way back on those ingredients she was able to drop the weight. Karen On 4/21/08, Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > It's OK Karen - I don't think a microbiotic diet > HAS to include animal products (but some > detractors do suggest that one might be deficient > in V B12 and in protein - although I think we're > all over that silly protein hype!) - but I'd > worry, myself, about the proportions of each > component of the 'diet' -but that's just me, > worrying about a lot of things, eh? > > As for bringing it up in this forum - hey, no > prob - and it was a fair question. I wonder, what > was different about your friend's diet (what > she/he omitted) that made the loss of 22 pounds > so easy? > > Myself, I like the McDougall 'diet' and the > Fuhrman 'diet' (yeah that one a bit more because > for me it works best) even though Fuhrman allows > - as do most of these wonderful people - the > possibility of a little animal food (yup, > including a little flesh - sorry!) in the diet. > People like me just avoid it all - animals and > animal products - and it works just fine. > > These 'diets' I feel compelled to say for the > benefit of those who don't know them, are also > more an approach to life than anything else - > intended for people with heart problems or who > would like to avoid heart problems - certainly > not a 'quick fix' or fad kind of thing, although > you WILL lose weight if you're already eating the > wrong things. I really object (on a personal > level - you can all do your own thing of course!) > to 'diets' as such - weightloss diets, I mean. > > Likewise, I agree with the member who objects to > the idea that people come to vegetarianism as a > weight loss thing - it's not. You can eat badly > on ANY 'diet' plan. Vegetarianism is quite a > different thingie, eh? LOL > > Love and hugs, Pat > > --- Karen Phillips <kleelibby <kleelibby%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > Thanks for the information, Pat. I had no idea > > that macrobiotics involved > > consuming animal products. Sorry to bring that > > up in this forum. > > Regards, > > Karen > > > > > > On 4/21/08, Pat <drpatsant <drpatsant%40>> wrote: > > > > > > Macrobiotic diet? No haven't tried it - > > don't > > > intend to do so ever. But I do know something > > > about it, since it was very trendy when I was > > at > > > university in the 60s and 70s. > > > > > > This from Wikipedia - but do read the rest of > > the > > > article: > > > > > > [ALERT: Non-vegetarian material included > > below.] > > > > > > Macrobiotics is considered an approach to > > life > > > rather than a diet. General Guidelines for > > the > > > diet are: > > > Whole cereal grains, especially brown rice: > > > 50-60% > > > Vegetables: 25-30% > > > Beans and legumes: 5-10 % > > > Miso soup: 5% > > > The remainder is composed of fish and > > seafood, > > > seeds and nuts, seed and nut butters, > > seasonings, > > > sweeteners, fruits, and beverages. Other > > > naturally raised animal products may be > > included > > > if needed during dietary transition or > > according > > > to individual needs. > > > > > > Read more at: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrobiotic_diet > > > > > > I'll post more as soon as I finish feeding my > > > hounds! LOL > > > > > > Love and hugs, Pat > > > > > > ---- > > > http://www.care2.com/c2cvegpets (and > > others listed on > > > http://beanvegan.blogspot.com) > > > " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they > > occur in laboratories and > > > are called medical research. " (George Bernard > > Shaw) > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hi Karen! > My friend who went macro cut all > the " junk " out of her diet, > which I believe made the difference. Donuts > and french fries are vegan. but > that doesn't mean that they're healthy or will > assist one in weight loss. Don't we all know that - to our sadness > I think going on a macrobiotic eating plan made > her aware of the sugar and fat > she was consuming, and when cutting way back on > those ingredients she was > able to drop the weight. Sounds good to me I figure, within certain limits (duh - guess what those are, right? LOL) whatever works for you works for you! (talk about tautology!). Hugs to your friend - and why NOT microbiotic as long as it's vegetarian???? Anyone got anything to add? As I say, I haven't ever tried it - I go back on Fuhrman whenever I go more than three pounds over ideal weight (and I lost some 40 pounds doing Barnard last year and the other five (or whatever) doing Fuhrman, in case anyone cares). Btw Karen, I suspect all the fibre in the brown rice aspect of the diet helped a lot too - it fills you up nicely and helps you to stop craving more carbs. Well, usually *shrug* Are you gonna give it a test drive????? Love and hugs, Pat ---- http://www.care2.com/c2cvegpets (and others listed on http://beanvegan.blogspot.com) " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research. " (George Bernard Shaw) ______________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hi Pat, I think I'll pass on macrobiotics for now. I'm not a big fan of brown rice (I know, it's healthier). But I am very interested in the Fuhrman plan you refer to. What is that about? Is it not as strict as Barnard? I guess I could google both, but when you have time, I'd like to hear about it from someone who's actually followed the diet and been successful, as it sounds like you have Regards, Karen On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Pat <drpatsant wrote: > Hi Karen! > > > My friend who went macro cut all > > the " junk " out of her diet, > > which I believe made the difference. Donuts > > and french fries are vegan. but > > that doesn't mean that they're healthy or will > > assist one in weight loss. > > Don't we all know that - to our sadness > > > I think going on a macrobiotic eating plan made > > her aware of the sugar and fat > > she was consuming, and when cutting way back on > > those ingredients she was > > able to drop the weight. > > Sounds good to me I figure, within certain > limits (duh - guess what those are, right? LOL) > whatever works for you works for you! (talk about > tautology!). > > Hugs to your friend - and why NOT microbiotic as > long as it's vegetarian???? Anyone got anything > to add? As I say, I haven't ever tried it - I go > back on Fuhrman whenever I go more than three > pounds over ideal weight (and I lost some 40 > pounds doing Barnard last year and the other five > (or whatever) doing Fuhrman, in case anyone > cares). > > Btw Karen, I suspect all the fibre in the brown > rice aspect of the diet helped a lot too - it > fills you up nicely and helps you to stop craving > more carbs. Well, usually *shrug* > > Are you gonna give it a test drive????? > > Love and hugs, Pat > > ---- > http://www.care2.com/c2cvegpets (and others listed on > http://beanvegan.blogspot.com) > " Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and > are called medical research. " (George Bernard Shaw) > > ________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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