A couple of things

[Guest guest]

There a couple of things I'd like to discuss:

 

1) I thought by low-fat vegetarian, it was meant that a vegetarian diet

is inherently low fat in comparison to the " Standard American Diet "

(SAD) which is Omnivore/Junk food (OJF). I didn't realize that it

emphasize is on making a healthy diet unhealthy by trying to make it

low-fat, which is my opinion.

 

2) In other low-fat forums which are less rigidly moderated and have

much more discussion going on, I have seen discussions that went on for

months and worried about how the oil in a Vitamin E capsule added too

much fat to their diet. My concern is that some folks may be trying to

see how low they can go fat-wise and are not discussing it!

 

3) I find I prefer to hear about a book from another regular person.

Experts who have written their own books or have their own websites

regarding a subject, I've noticed, tend to treat other books/websites

like the way someone would react if someone were to infer that their

child is better than their child. They want to point out what they

perceive as flaws in the other book/website and de-emphasize that a

different approach might get the overall message through to someone who

doesn't see the point.

 

4) My description of the book " Skinny Bitch " as vegan weight loss was

too open to intrepretation. What I should have said is that it is a

weight loss book that has a vegan diet as the basis for weight loss. It

is not a book on how to do a vegan diet to maximize weight loss. The

emphasis is on a healthy, whole food, non-chemical vegan diet. They

spend a lot of pages discussing why all artifical sweetners are

unhealthy. That Chapter 6 that made me cry is a discussion of why

someone should be vegan because of factory farming practices.

 

5) Because I think this group is too rigidly moderated (don't get me

wrong, an unmoderated vegetarian group soon gets too many omni trolls

who get very nasty trying to pick arguments that none of us want to

read), I think the best thing is for me to .

 

Hope this doesn't hurt your feeling, Pat (hon, darling, sweetie,

precious, baby).

 

Bye

[Guest guest]

> There a couple of things I'd like to discuss:

>

> 1) I thought by low-fat vegetarian, it was meant that a vegetarian diet

> is inherently low fat in comparison to the " Standard American Diet "

> (SAD) which is Omnivore/Junk food (OJF). I didn't realize that it

> emphasize is on making a healthy diet unhealthy by trying to make it

> low-fat, which is my opinion.

 

I haven't seen anyone suggesting that all fat should be removed from

the diet. I am on other lists which are far more strict about posting

any recipes with even a drop of added oil, anything with eggs, dairy

that is not non-fat, etc. The only one I've seen while I've been

here that was a problem was one with 1/3 cup oil. Obviously if you

are trying to lose weight, it doesn't matter whether you are following

a veg diet or not, adding that much oil to a recipe is not going to

help you.

>

>

> 2) In other low-fat forums which are less rigidly moderated and have

> much more discussion going on, I have seen discussions that went on for

> months and worried about how the oil in a Vitamin E capsule added too

> much fat to their diet. My concern is that some folks may be trying to

> see how low they can go fat-wise and are not discussing it!

 

The only " rigidity " I have seen here is not posting recipes or

suggestions that include flesh. There has been no moderation

prohibiting discussion of vitamin E or other oils for health. I have

posted about efa's a number of time and never received any

moderation/reprimand. Perhaps it is simply because this group is

*not* strict about the exact amount of fat in recipes that people are

not discussing avoiding oils in supplements. If you search the

archives for " efa " , " omega " , or " flax " you will see they are discussed

with some regularity.

 

Pam