Gall Bladder and Multiple Sclerosis

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Hi there,i was wondering about the diet for gall stones.its hard for me to get

on a diet because iam a disabled chef with MS and to tell you the truth i dont

know how to cook foods that are good for me and my cash is limited because iam

on ssdi and besides livin expences theres not any extra money to changs the

foods that i eat so if someonre knows a way for me to do this that would be

great iam not so set in my ways that i cant change my diet for me to be healthy

and i could do with some weight loss thats why i joined this group but so far

its been rough...so thanks and peacce out..Lou

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1. Very Low Fat Gall Bladder Diet

Kathleen Pelley

2. Re: conundrum...

Bob C

3. Re: conundrum...

" veggiehound "

4. Re: conundrum

SyLvIa fOX

5. Re: conundrum

" veggiehound "

6. Re: Re: conundrum...

Kathleen Pelley

7. Re: conundrum...

" veggiehound "

 

 

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Message: 1

Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:14:37 -0700 (PDT)

Kathleen Pelley

Very Low Fat Gall Bladder Diet

 

My guess, having had a gall bladder infection, you have no appetite because of

the gall bladder problem. I experienced that when I had the problem several

years ago. My whole system was not responding normally and I had no appetite

for several months. I will tell you what worked for me:

 

Eat lots of fruit--it digests easily and will give you fat free healthy

calories. You can count tomatoes as a fruit. Organic grapefruit is especially

good for you.

Avoid raw vegetables until your appetite returns--they are very hard to

digest. If you eat a salad you will discover that it will take a long time for

your appetite to return. Use fat-free salad dressing if you must eat a salad.

You can eat lots of lightly steamed vegetables. [no avocadoes]

Make bean stews without any fat, including olive oil, with lots of your

favorite veggies--like minestrone with pasta & navy beans

If you are milk tolerent, nonfat yoghurt worked very well for me [or soy

yoghurt, but it is higher in fat].

As treats there are some nonfat frozen yoghurts that taste great--read labels

for fat content.

Grapefruit juice is wonderful--helps restore your electrolyte balance. I

drank two cups per day of pure grapefruit juice when I was sickest for the first

several months. I believe I purchased Knudsen brand in a recyclable glass

bottle [no affiliation, just a happy customer].

You can eat low fat breads with fruit-flavored jams and wonderful spiced

honeys. Angel food cake is fat free.

Stay away from cheese. Eventually, as you begin to feel better, you will be

able to tolerate poached eggs, if you eat eggs. Tofu may initially be too high

in fat, but you will be able to eat it as you feel better in things like miso

soup, etc. No ice cream, cookies, cakes--they are very high in fat. Seriously

avoid any trans fats [hydrogenated fats]. No fried foods like french fries,

deep fat fried foods, etc. I still do and I have been symptom free for about

one year.

If your gall bladder disease is active, your tongue may be yellow--my

acupuncturist taught me that.

There were herbs that I took that really helped. Contact a competent

herbalist for recommendations. Marshmallow root helped me a lot, but, again,

contact a competent herbalist.

If you become nauseated, contact your physician immediately. You can end up

with serious complications with gall bladder disease including an inflamed liver

and/or pancreas resulting in type II diabetes.

I successfully kept my fat to under 20 grams of fat per day by those

guidelines. It will take time to get well, but you will get well. I can be

reached at kmpelley if you have further questions.

 

Get well

Kathleen

Eureka CA

 

 

 

 

Last week, I was put on a fat-free diet due to

gallbladder problems. I haven't " cheated, " but I'm

only managing to eat about 900 to 1000 calories a day.

I'm not starving myself, but that is all it takes to

make me feel full.

The problem is, I've actually GAINED weight since

starting this. My s.o. thinks this is because i am

eating too few calories. If I ate anymore, I'd feel as

if I were overeating. I am hoping that some of you

might have suggestions to assist me with this. Am I

doing something wrong?

 

 

Kathleen M. Pelley

Knitters are Real Purls

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Lou Reginato Jr wrote:

 

> Hi there,i was wondering about the diet for gall stones.its hard for

> me to get on a diet because iam a disabled chef with MS and to tell

> you the truth i dont know how to cook foods that are good for me and

> my cash is limited because iam on ssdi and besides livin expences

> theres not any extra money to changs the foods that i eat so if

> someonre knows a way for me to do this that would be great iam not so

> set in my ways that i cant change my diet for me to be healthy and i

> could do with some weight loss thats why i joined this group but so

> far its been rough...so thanks and peacce out..Lou

 

Lou,

 

The first good news is the cheapest. Drink a lot of water. It's free.

It will help flush out gallstones and prevent

gall bladder attacks. And will help you eat less.

 

To save money, don't eat any wasted calories. Avoid highly processed

foods. For example, make sure the first

few ingredients are " Whole grains, or a real food " . If it says " Cane

Syrup, Corn Syrup " or the like, it's basically sugar. " Wheat " or

" Organic Wheat " is a trick, it means they processed it and removed the

fiber and most

nutrition. All that is left is a high glycemic index food.

 

Inexpensive foods that are very nutritious and filling include beans,

brown rice, find in-season on sale fruit,

and the like.

 

You might have to change the foods you eat, and you may well come out

cheaper. If you can find a farmers market

in your area, try buying fresh produce. For example Green Leaf or Romain

lettuce. Unprocessed foods are usually

cheaper and more healthy than processed foods. You might find a food

coop in your area, where people buy in

bulk, getting good organic or whole foods, and purchasing in bulk. If

there's not one, you might organize it, and

even make a small fee for running it.

 

Since we have no idea what foods you're buying now, we really can't tell

you what to do with what you have.

 

I don't know much about MS. But do know that the magazine Neurology

Today will help keep you up to date

with current research and is free for Neurological patients. I did some

research and did find

there are those who oppose the downward trend that most doctors will

recommend, and save one a fortune in medications. I did find an

interesting URL about someone avoiding the downward spiral at

 

 

http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2005star/050812tasic.htm

 

That will of course lead to a very interesting article by Dr. Mcdowell

about MS, including recommending a

low fat, vegetarian diet, and why.

 

http://www.all-creatures.org/mfz/health-ms.html

 

If you want a great book of vegetarian, healthy recipes, find the Bone

Density Diet by George Kessler. On Amazon

there are often used copies of this book for pennies. Heck, it would be

my pleasure to get you a copy if you can't afford it. The section at

the back has tons of vegetarian recipes (mostly from family members).

 

Feel free to write me privately. Since I had a closed head injury and

some neurological symptoms, I very much understand the stigma and

problems we face.

 

Bob

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> Hi there,i was wondering about the diet for gall stones.

 

Hi there Lou - Dunno anything about the diet for gall stones, but perhaps others

can help

;-)

 

> iam a disabled chef with MS . . .

 

I remember your saying when you joined - sorry to hear about that. And of course

you

want the best food and you don't want to have to spend a fortune. I see that

someone

(Bob?) has responded about reasonably priced foods that are good and healthy.

When I

think aboout it, I suppose the major rule for losing weight AND for health is

(usually)

'nothing white' (as long as you don't take it too literally and rule out white

asparagus, for

e.g. or peeled apples LOL) - that is to say, brown rice, brown bread, and all

food as

unprocessed as is possible. I throw beans in the crockpot and freeze them in

batches until

needed - much cheaper than opening cans, nicer (you cook them until they're

done, not

mushy) and salt-free. (Also, not so heavy to carry dried beans and peas from the

supermarket). I make my own wholewheat bread - no white flour and now I've none

in the

house - but that's a bit of a trial for those who aren't physically up to all

that kneading if

they don't have a breadmaker (I don't use one or need one). But you can stir

together

wonderful ingredients for quickbreads to go with soups and stews.

 

>and to tell you the truth i dont know how to cook foods that are good for me

 

Which brings me to the next poing: soups and stews are cheap and easy to make -

and

you can freeze most of them in one-serving sizes or simply keep in the fridge

for four

days or so. With the right seasonings (your choice and taste of course), the

most mundane

vegetables turn into a gourmet treat! And of course much healthier than canned

or frozen

stews and soups.

 

And you know, one of the easiest things to make - and cheap - is various

varieties and

enthicities of beans over rice, with (if you like them) lots and lots of chiles

and tomatoes

etc. Again a crockpot/slowcooker would be handy - they're often on sale - but a

good pot

on the back of the stove does the job just as well ;-) There are SO many kinds

of beans

and lentils, that no one has to spend a lot of money on food for the 'protein'

part, and you

can get lots of good nutrients from the cheaper vegetables too.

 

Okay, enough. This is one of my hobby horses and I get to be a screaming bore on

the

subject.

 

Best luck and lots of love,

Pat