Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 One of my dreams is to be able to obtain some kind of degree in vegan nutrition so that I can be better qualified to tell others about how they can live more healthily. Can anyone recommend schools that are reputable and/or that you've attended and were happy with? I would also be interested in schools that offer online courses, although I prefer the classroom setting for dialog. - robin koloms Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:20 AM Re: veg supplementation? I am big on anti-oxidants (grape seed extract). We live on a polluted planet and I want us to get rid of as many toxins as we can. I am also big on supplements. Our dreadful farming practices have drained so many nutrients from the soil, I believe that food is less nutricious than it once was. I give my daughter ecchinecia (I know this is spelled wrong) all winter (3 weeks on, one week off); she gets sick less frequently and for shorter duration then her classmates, and has since preschool. chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote: i am pretty opposed to supplements. i think the supplement industry is way out of hand and people have the mistaken idea that they can replace eating good foods with taking high-priced, mostly useless (since we only absorb about 10% of it anyway) pills. we've been vegan for almost 2 years; we went vegan when my son was 3 weeks old. he has been vegan from birth. we just had another baby and i was vegan throughout her pregnancy and very healthy. i'm a student midwife and i've just decided to pursue another degree in holistic nutrition, so i'm pretty on top of nutrition information. i feel PRETTY confident about our diet. i did, however, put my son on a basic chewable veg multi last week because his eating habits are very cyclical. sometimes he eats almost every hour and sometimes he eats hardly anything and i don't know how he's surviving. right now he's in the latter period. i do trust that he knows what he needs, but with children, i figure you can't be too careful. so i put him on the multi and even though i know it's not as good as food, i figure it's better than nothing and it won't hurt anything. ok, i'm rambling. i'll get to the point. so i just finished john robbins' " healthy at 100, " which is a great book that i highly recommend...john robbins is just such a positive guy! reading his books and articles makes you feel so good about yourself and your world, even when he's lamenting. ANYWAY. geez. ok, so after reading his book, i'm kind of second-guessing things. he talks a lot about antioxidants and omegas. now, i was getting pretty freaked out because robbins wrote " diet for a new america " and " the food revolution " and is a notable vegan, but he was talking about these cultures that are extremely healthy and long-lived and how they all include some measure of animal protein in their diets, even if it's just bugs or something, and in another section he was talking about how fish is really a superior source of omegas, and he had an ENTIRE CHAPTER on weston price, and i was thinking, JOHN. what are you DOING?! but ultimately he did say that it's possible to get good omegas if you're careful about it, and i think his basic message was that, in these " primitive " cultures, those people eating fish and goat milk and whatnot is a good thing because that's truly the only way they can get things like b12 and D, but in OUR culture we have other things available to us like supplements and nutritional yeast, so we still shouldn't have to kill anything or subject our bodies to the detriment of animal products to get our nutrients. i THINK that was his message anyway. so, he mentioned supplements of antioxidants (which he says he takes himself), b12, and a few other little things. how necessary do you guys think this really is? i don't really worry about b12 because we eat lots of foods that are fortified with b12, and that should be fine. i also don't worry about D for that reason. but what about antioxidants? and i was never terribly worried about omegas, but now i'm realizing that while we have a few little sources, our main source is flax and i don't know if that's enough. i really liked the book but now i feel all confused. sorry for all the rambling. what are your thoughts? chandelle' -- everybody thinks that everybody knows about everybody else but nobody knows anything about themselves 'cause they're all worried about everybody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 www.naturalhealers.com is a resource site for schools where you can study any number of natural healing professions, including holistic nutrition, but also MT, herbalism, etc. it lists local and online schools. that's where i found the clayton college of natural healing. chandelle' On 2/8/07, admartin5 <admartin5 wrote: > > One of my dreams is to be able to obtain some kind of degree in vegan > nutrition so that I can be better qualified to tell others about how they > can live more healthily. > > Can anyone recommend schools that are reputable and/or that you've > attended and were happy with? > > I would also be interested in schools that offer online courses, although > I prefer the classroom setting for dialog. > > > - > robin koloms > > Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:20 AM > Re: veg supplementation? > > > I am big on anti-oxidants (grape seed extract). We live on a polluted > planet and I want us to get rid of as many toxins as we can. I am also big > on supplements. Our dreadful farming practices have drained so many > nutrients from the soil, I believe that food is less nutricious than it once > was. I give my daughter ecchinecia (I know this is spelled wrong) all winter > (3 weeks on, one week off); she gets sick less frequently and for shorter > duration then her classmates, and has since preschool. > > chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote: i am pretty opposed to > supplements. i think the supplement industry is way > out of hand and people have the mistaken idea that they can replace > eating > good foods with taking high-priced, mostly useless (since we only absorb > about 10% of it anyway) pills. > > we've been vegan for almost 2 years; we went vegan when my son was 3 > weeks > old. he has been vegan from birth. we just had another baby and i was > vegan throughout her pregnancy and very healthy. i'm a student midwife > and > i've just decided to pursue another degree in holistic nutrition, so i'm > pretty on top of nutrition information. i feel PRETTY confident about > our > diet. i did, however, put my son on a basic chewable veg multi last week > because his eating habits are very cyclical. sometimes he eats almost > every > hour and sometimes he eats hardly anything and i don't know how he's > surviving. right now he's in the latter period. i do trust that he knows > what he needs, but with children, i figure you can't be too careful. so > i > put him on the multi and even though i know it's not as good as food, i > figure it's better than nothing and it won't hurt anything. > > ok, i'm rambling. i'll get to the point. > > so i just finished john robbins' " healthy at 100, " which is a great book > that i highly recommend...john robbins is just such a positive guy! > reading > his books and articles makes you feel so good about yourself and your > world, > even when he's lamenting. ANYWAY. geez. ok, so after reading his book, > i'm kind of second-guessing things. he talks a lot about antioxidants > and > omegas. now, i was getting pretty freaked out because robbins wrote > " diet > for a new america " and " the food revolution " and is a notable vegan, but > he > was talking about these cultures that are extremely healthy and > long-lived > and how they all include some measure of animal protein in their diets, > even > if it's just bugs or something, and in another section he was talking > about > how fish is really a superior source of omegas, and he had an ENTIRE > CHAPTER > on weston price, and i was thinking, JOHN. what are you DOING?! but > ultimately he did say that it's possible to get good omegas if you're > careful about it, and i think his basic message was that, in these > " primitive " cultures, those people eating fish and goat milk and whatnot > is > a good thing because that's truly the only way they can get things like > b12 > and D, but in OUR culture we have other things available to us like > supplements and nutritional yeast, so we still shouldn't have to kill > anything or subject our bodies to the detriment of animal products to > get > our nutrients. i THINK that was his message anyway. > > so, he mentioned supplements of antioxidants (which he says he takes > himself), b12, and a few other little things. how necessary do you guys > think this really is? i don't really worry about b12 because we eat lots > of > foods that are fortified with b12, and that should be fine. i also don't > worry about D for that reason. but what about antioxidants? and i was > never terribly worried about omegas, but now i'm realizing that while we > have a few little sources, our main source is flax and i don't know if > that's enough. > > i really liked the book but now i feel all confused. sorry for all > the > rambling. what are your thoughts? > > chandelle' > > -- > everybody thinks > that everybody knows about > everybody else > but nobody knows > anything > about themselves > 'cause they're all worried about > everybody else. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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