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Hello, interesting that this be posted right now. We have been vegan for

many years so my 6yr old has never had dairy but she has always been prone

to ear infections. Rarely complains that it hurts - the first we knew of

it was age 4 or so when we went to get her hearing checked and she had a

" raging ear infection " that we didn't even know about. She tends to be

loud, doesn't hear very well and, when at it's worst, has a bad smell

around her ears/head.

 

ENT Dr felt it to be improving last time we were there (September) and

likely wouldn't need tubes but last night she was upset that she gets into

trouble when she doesn't hear us ask her to do something so she doesn't do

it (not sure if this is a convenience to her either cos she hears the good

stuff we tell her just fine!) plus she said her ears are hurting a

bit. She mishears speech sometimes - especially the consonants. She has

been on antibiotics just once when a baby as we avoid them whenever we

can. We've used the olive oil/garlic ear drops and to be honest haven't

noticed much difference. She's just getting over a cold so an ear

infection is not suprising after that but what more can we do? Going to

get them checked next week and see what happens.

 

Any thoughts appreciated.

 

 

>1f. Re: I need help!!!

> Posted by: " pmfree3 " pmfree3 pmfree2003

> Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:53 pm ((PST))

>

>

>In a message dated 1/10/07 2:50:13 PM, imblsdby3 writes:

>

>

> > But just recently we

> > have been in and out of the doctor because of ear infections. They

> > were talking about putting tubes in her ears and I am totally against

> > that. A friend recommended that I try removing the dairy and we have

> > really noticed a difference but now I can't get her to drink it or even

> > put it on her cereal. Can anyone help me?

> >

>

>Oh I have been in these shoes! It was over 16 years ago that we cut dairy

>out of our toddlers diet (already vegetarian). He not only didn't have

>to get

>the tubes (I dont think I would have anyway), but his ear infections ended!!

> He had had many ear infections starting at 7 days old even - though he was

>completely breastfed.

>

>There is no need for your daughter to drink any type of milk. Maybe she'd

>prefer to have her cereal dry. Much easier to carry around ;) Or maybe

>she'd like something else for breakfast.

>

>If you really want a milk substitute there are many kinds. My kids

>preferred Rice Dream when they were younger. Now they like any kind of

>substitute.

>There's almond milk which I think is great and for a splurge, chocolate Rice

>Dream warmed up is really good.

>

>Good luck. Remember we are the only species that drinks another species

>milk!

>

>Best wishes,

 

 

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For a compassionate world, gwynt

Gwyneth Treharne

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I have a book called " Childhood Ear Infections " by Dr. Michael A.

Schmidt. On the cover is says: " What every parent and physician

should know about prevention, home care and alternative treatment "

Perhaps you would find it useful. I just searched Amazon and an

updated version is available. Mine was published in 1990. Knock on

wood, my kids have not had ear infections in years. My son had them

all the time as a toddler (before we were vegan) My daughter

complains that her ears hurt at times, especially after playing

soccer in the wind, or swimming too much. I used warm cotton balls

with warm olive oil placed in the ear while laying on her side (hurt

ear up). This seems to help. I also use a swimmer's ear solution in

her ears for swimmer's ear in the summer.

Good luck!

 

Tracy

 

On Jan 11, 2007, at 5:57 AM, Gwyneth Treharne wrote:

 

> Hello, interesting that this be posted right now. We have been

> vegan for

> many years so my 6yr old has never had dairy but she has always

> been prone

> to ear infections. Rarely complains that it hurts - the first we

> knew of

> it was age 4 or so when we went to get her hearing checked and she

> had a

> " raging ear infection " that we didn't even know about. She tends to be

> loud, doesn't hear very well and, when at it's worst, has a bad smell

> around her ears/head.

>

> ENT Dr felt it to be improving last time we were there (September) and

> likely wouldn't need tubes but last night she was upset that she

> gets into

> trouble when she doesn't hear us ask her to do something so she

> doesn't do

> it (not sure if this is a convenience to her either cos she hears

> the good

> stuff we tell her just fine!) plus she said her ears are hurting a

> bit. She mishears speech sometimes - especially the consonants. She

> has

> been on antibiotics just once when a baby as we avoid them whenever we

> can. We've used the olive oil/garlic ear drops and to be honest

> haven't

> noticed much difference. She's just getting over a cold so an ear

> infection is not suprising after that but what more can we do?

> Going to

> get them checked next week and see what happens.

>

> Any thoughts appreciated.

>

> >1f. Re: I need help!!!

> > Posted by: " pmfree3 " pmfree3 pmfree2003

> > Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:53 pm ((PST))

> >

> >

> >In a message dated 1/10/07 2:50:13 PM, imblsdby3 writes:

> >

> >

> > > But just recently we

> > > have been in and out of the doctor because of ear infections. They

> > > were talking about putting tubes in her ears and I am totally

> against

> > > that. A friend recommended that I try removing the dairy and we

> have

> > > really noticed a difference but now I can't get her to drink it

> or even

> > > put it on her cereal. Can anyone help me?

> > >

> >

> >Oh I have been in these shoes! It was over 16 years ago that we

> cut dairy

> >out of our toddlers diet (already vegetarian). He not only didn't

> have

> >to get

> >the tubes (I dont think I would have anyway), but his ear

> infections ended!!

> > He had had many ear infections starting at 7 days old even -

> though he was

> >completely breastfed.

> >

> >There is no need for your daughter to drink any type of milk.

> Maybe she'd

> >prefer to have her cereal dry. Much easier to carry around ;) Or

> maybe

> >she'd like something else for breakfast.

> >

> >If you really want a milk substitute there are many kinds. My kids

> >preferred Rice Dream when they were younger. Now they like any

> kind of

> >substitute.

> >There's almond milk which I think is great and for a splurge,

> chocolate Rice

> >Dream warmed up is really good.

> >

> >Good luck. Remember we are the only species that drinks another

> species

> >milk!

> >

> >Best wishes,

>

> ---------------

> *********----------

> For a compassionate world, gwynt

> Gwyneth Treharne

> ---------------

> <><><>----------

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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From personal experience I will not do tubes. My sister suffered ear infections

all the way through adulthood and has had tubes. SHe has lost her hearing in

one ear and had surgery on the other to repair damages caused by tubes and has

now very little hearing in that ear. We are tyring everything under the sun to

prevent ear infections and the doctors wanting to do tubes. SO far so good.

 

Gwyneth Treharne <gwynt wrote: Hello, interesting that

this be posted right now. We have been vegan for

many years so my 6yr old has never had dairy but she has always been prone

to ear infections. Rarely complains that it hurts - the first we knew of

it was age 4 or so when we went to get her hearing checked and she had a

" raging ear infection " that we didn't even know about. She tends to be

loud, doesn't hear very well and, when at it's worst, has a bad smell

around her ears/head.

 

ENT Dr felt it to be improving last time we were there (September) and

likely wouldn't need tubes but last night she was upset that she gets into

trouble when she doesn't hear us ask her to do something so she doesn't do

it (not sure if this is a convenience to her either cos she hears the good

stuff we tell her just fine!) plus she said her ears are hurting a

bit. She mishears speech sometimes - especially the consonants. She has

been on antibiotics just once when a baby as we avoid them whenever we

can. We've used the olive oil/garlic ear drops and to be honest haven't

noticed much difference. She's just getting over a cold so an ear

infection is not suprising after that but what more can we do? Going to

get them checked next week and see what happens.

 

Any thoughts appreciated.

 

>1f. Re: I need help!!!

> Posted by: " pmfree3 " pmfree3 pmfree2003

> Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:53 pm ((PST))

>

>

>In a message dated 1/10/07 2:50:13 PM, imblsdby3 writes:

>

>

> > But just recently we

> > have been in and out of the doctor because of ear infections. They

> > were talking about putting tubes in her ears and I am totally against

> > that. A friend recommended that I try removing the dairy and we have

> > really noticed a difference but now I can't get her to drink it or even

> > put it on her cereal. Can anyone help me?

> >

>

>Oh I have been in these shoes! It was over 16 years ago that we cut dairy

>out of our toddlers diet (already vegetarian). He not only didn't have

>to get

>the tubes (I dont think I would have anyway), but his ear infections ended!!

> He had had many ear infections starting at 7 days old even - though he was

>completely breastfed.

>

>There is no need for your daughter to drink any type of milk. Maybe she'd

>prefer to have her cereal dry. Much easier to carry around ;) Or maybe

>she'd like something else for breakfast.

>

>If you really want a milk substitute there are many kinds. My kids

>preferred Rice Dream when they were younger. Now they like any kind of

>substitute.

>There's almond milk which I think is great and for a splurge, chocolate Rice

>Dream warmed up is really good.

>

>Good luck. Remember we are the only species that drinks another species

>milk!

>

>Best wishes,

 

---------------*********-----------------------\

--------------------

For a compassionate world, gwynt

Gwyneth Treharne

---------------<><><>--------------------------\

-----------------

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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