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Well said, Alan, I totally agree! The other day I saw

a frozen food product called a " vegetarian breast " .

That was disturbing to me on so many levels!! I have

been trying to eliminate manufactured meat analogs now

that I'm a mom and don't want to confuse my child (and

those she comes into contact with). I like to make

tofu " bacon " at home, however, and have started to

call them smoky tofu strips. Anyone else have any

other ideas for home-made items for which there is

usually a meat-derived name?

 

By the way, I have been lurking for soooo long (I

introduced myself a few years ago). I've been

vegetarian for about ten years I guess, and vegan or

nearly so for four. Husband Chris has been vegetarian

for four years; vegan for a couple years now. Daughter

Alexandra (14 months) has been vegan since birth. Hi,

everyone.

 

Barbara

 

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Tue, 06 Dec 2005 02:11:54 -0000

" Alan " <soy_decaf_latte

Re: New Vegan Products From Morningstar Farms

 

Nikki,

 

I agree with you about wanting to see products with

names that no

longer mention the old meat names.

 

With 95% (or thereabouts) of the population still

omnivores, I can

see why the manufacturers target them by using names

like Chikn,

riblets, etc. And that's probably a good thing to

encourage those

folks to seek out cruelty-free and healthier

substitutes.

 

But for those of us who have moved on and no longer

wish to be

reminded of animal suffering when we eat vegan

products, I think it

would be nice to see original veg*n names that are

nothing like the

omni names.

 

And, also, there is the political point about

" framing " issues. When

we frame an issue (or product) from the point of view

of the

opposition, we've already lost the argument. [As an

example, tax

cuts are framed by advocates as " tax relief " , because

it implies that

taxes are a burden that needs to be relieved, and it

is hard to argue

against relieving people of a burden] I think, to

some extent, as

long as we are eating dogs and burgers and nuggets,

even the veggie

versions, we're still defining ourselves (or at least

our food) in

omni terms, and paradoxically, perhaps reinforcing the

omni diet. I

mean we can't even verbalize what we are eating (e.g.,

chikn nuggets)

without sounding like we just drove through McDonald's

for a Happy

Meal.

 

So, for those just considering veggie options or those

in transition,

I can see the value of naming products much like the

meat versions.

But, for those nearer their veg*n destination, I think

we would be

better off if we could leave those names (and bad

images/memories)

behind.

 

- Alan

 

 

 

, " lilmunkydunk "

<lilmunkydunk@a...>

wrote:

>

> ... I would like it if the manufacturers would

> move away from using the same titles as used for

meat, since the

> meaty similarity really isn't important to me

personally. It is

> helpful, however, when serving non-veg'n friends and

family members.

>

> Nikki

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Barbara,

 

" Vegetarian breast " !?!? That is just HILARIOUS!! I guess that's what you'd call

my six-month-old baby's meals. Only they're not frozen of course.

LOL ;)

 

Bonnie

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Barbara Cosart

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:44 PM

 

meat-derived terminology

 

Well said, Alan, I totally agree! The other day I saw

a frozen food product called a " vegetarian breast " .

That was disturbing to me on so many levels!! I have

been trying to eliminate manufactured meat analogs now

that I'm a mom and don't want to confuse my child (and

those she comes into contact with). I like to make

tofu " bacon " at home, however, and have started to

call them smoky tofu strips. Anyone else have any

other ideas for home-made items for which there is

usually a meat-derived name?

 

By the way, I have been lurking for soooo long (I

introduced myself a few years ago). I've been

vegetarian for about ten years I guess, and vegan or

nearly so for four. Husband Chris has been vegetarian

for four years; vegan for a couple years now. Daughter

Alexandra (14 months) has been vegan since birth. Hi,

everyone.

 

Barbara

 

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