Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Well, I figure everything in moderation. Obviously, there can be found research figures to prove almost anything in excess could possible cause harm to some people or animals. Using mice to prove that soy can cause cancer under some circumstances, of course, proves nothing about human responses to soy - we are not mice and that is one of the problems with animal testing, quite apart from ethical thingies. As for whether this article is anti-soy propaganda, just have a look at some of the language. I give you one example, but there are others. >Soy now lurks in nearly 60 percent of the foods sold in . . . *Lurks*???? And how about the references to 'ersatz' foods?? Ersatz coffee and the like are a hold-over, as nomenclature, from anti-german/anti-nazi world war II days, and the word 'ersatz' still has that resonance with many of us. My feeling is that we should look into this. Of course. But we should also be very wary indeed of any supposed factual or scientific-sounding article that makes its points with heavily loaded terms aimed to awaken feelings or unrest or even paranoia in the minds of those who read at some level of unawareness of unawakedness at early hours of the morning or late at night. As for soy being unknown in China until what we call the Middle Ages, well whoop de doo. Tomatoes and such weren't known in Europe until after invasion/conquest of the New World, etc etc etc We all develop new foods. As for our eating such a lot of soy? Do we really? Now that is interesting. I don't. I eat very bloody little soy, because I use the milk only for cooking those things that otherwise would require dairy and TVP only in those things that really 'need' to simulate the texture or appearance, at least, of me*t (as in moussaka). But I'll check out my cupboards and fridge. How about the rest of us? Do we live on soy? Even if this damned badly written and prejudiced article had any factual basis, would it really affect our lives? As I say, the jury's still out until I check my cupboards. Thanks, Gene ;=) You really know how to get us stirred up - good for you!!!! Best, Pat in Montreal ;=) ===== psybermus LISTS: townhounds/ / vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---- Vote for the stars of 's next ad campaign! http://advision.webevents.//votelifeengine/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 psybermus <psybermus wrote: >Well, I figure everything in moderation. I agree, actually. I think that a varied and moderate diet is probably one of the healthiest ways to eat. >*Lurks*???? And how about the references to 'ersatz' >foods?? Ersatz coffee and the like are a hold-over, as >nomenclature, from anti-german/anti-nazi world war II >days, and the word 'ersatz' still has that resonance >with many of us. I think that the " lurks " is just typical of journalism today. And " ersatz " just means " false " , in the sense of " imitation. " I don't think it has any particular Nazy resonance. >As for our eating such a lot of soy? Do we really? Now that is interesting. I think a lot of vegetarians, especially vegans, do (when I was vegan, I basically lived on soy- I ate it every day at almost every meal, and all the other vegans I knew did basically the same). It's also added to a lot of foods, for boosting protein, adding texture- and supporting farm subsidies. Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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