Outsourcing & hunters

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At least, I will grant that hunters are generally in favor of

preserving nature. But I don't see how hunters, full of their macho

BS, blood lust, and almost erotic attachment to guns are in any way

morally superior to supermarket meateaters. Death by rifle is hardly

painless. A deer who is shot often stumbles around for an hour or

more before collapsing due to blood loss. My father, who hunts geese

pheasants ,etc., has told me stories about how he had to wring a

bird's neck because neither the bullets nor the fall killed him/her.

 

Hunters love to claim that if they didn't hunt the animals would

starve to death due to overpopulation and lack of food. Even if that

were technically true, it ignores the real cause of the problem. If

deer lack food it's only because humans have destroyed most of their

forests. Not to mention that humans regularly kill off most of the

deer's natural predators; coyotes, wolves, etc. A practice which

many hunters and ranchers support without question.

 

Animals have no chance when pitted against a shotgun or rifle.

At least when a lion, tiger, or bear oh my! hunts an animal, he or

she usually ends up getting the weak and sick among the prey. It's

survival of the fittest. But human hunters now go against the law of

the jungle. The goal of hunters is always to kill the biggest buck.

How does that help the species?

 

But, It is hunters' connections with NRA that really sicken me. The

NRA would rather children continue to be killed than admit that there

is no reason why any US citizen needs automatic weapons, pay a little

more for their precious guns, or have to wait a little longer to buy

their guns so a background check could be performed.

 

And remember, it's not as though Michael Moore actually hunts all his

meat. In " the big one " he was buying a fish sandwich at McDonald's

for crying out loud. So much for his anti-corporate stance. I don't

mean to single out Mike though, I've seen this type of hypocrisy all

the time. My Soc Professor who is an adamant Marxist still

patronizes fast food restaurants and drives a fucking SUV. This is a

serious problem. All these people who claim to be against the evils

of society and sincerely believe that they are, still support the

corporate machines when it is convenient or pleasurable to them.

 

, StLeoWitch@a... wrote:

> I am in total agreement with this part of your post.

> I have more respect for those meat eaters who actually stalk (not

in tree

> stands), hunt, clean and cook what they catch than for those who

have outsourced

> the " hard/gory " part.

> Susan

>

> In a message dated 1/10/04 7:17:43 PM, " Sheryl "

<ssarndt>

> writes:

>

> << I would agree with this. I still like Mike for his politics,

but I

>

> don't pay attention to his views on vegetarianism. He's from my

>

> home state of Michigan and is a hunter and a card-carrying member

of

>

> the NRA too. I don't agree with those things, but honestly I have

>

> more respect for meat-eaters who can hunt, kill and butcher their

>

> own meat than I do for people who despise hunting, can't kill or

>

> butcher anything yet still buy and eat meat! (This is one of the

>

> reasons I had to become a vegetarian. It made no sense to me that

I

>

> thought that meat was absolutely disgusting and that I could never

>

> kill or butcher anything or touch raw meat, but I could still eat

>

> it. It was a big contradiction to me!) >>

 

> " Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind

word, a

> listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring,

all of which

> have the potential to turn a life around. "

>

> ~Leo Buscaglia, author (1924-1998)

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, " dave " <dave4sale>

wrote:

> At least, I will grant that hunters are generally in favor of

> preserving nature. But I don't see how hunters, full of their

macho

> BS, blood lust, and almost erotic attachment to guns are in any

way

> morally superior to supermarket meateaters.

 

 

No way! I don't condone hunting and would never do it. I also

could not be in a relationship with a hunter. I know that I

mentioned that I have more respect for them than those who get their

meat at the supermarket. I only give them more " respect " because

they are actually able to do all the things that supermarket-

purchasers swear they could not do. I do not condone the killing

and/or eating of meat at all. I do, however, view hunters a little

bit differently than I do supermarket buyers. Just my $.02.