Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 In einer eMail vom 16.01.2004 02:28:55 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt : > Message: 1 > Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:02:28 -0000 > " Feral " <terebinthus > Re: Implications cont'd > > Excellent point, Sheryl. > Now, if we could strip down the meat eaters, and > make them learn to stalk, run, and kill their > meat-food with their own bare fang and claws, > we'd have a lot fewer meateaters and fewer tortured > animals forced to exist in factory farms! Plus, the animals that are being chased might just turn on them and give them a taste of their own medicine, sparing US the trouble of having to strip them down, etc... Phoenix 1sound.com/phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 In einer eMail vom 16.01.2004 02:28:55 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt : > >Now, just in thinking I was wondering: What are the implications of > >killing flys and mosquitoes etc? Especially when they're in the > >kitchen, I really never had any qualms about squishing the little > >buggers. > > > i'm of the opinion that a sentient being is a sentient being, even if it's > considered a household pest, so i always try to get bugs out of my house > through > non-toxic means. sometimes, however, there are situations in which it's > hard to avoid things like ant traps (we get swarms of them in the summer > time), > and i always feel horrible about it. > Part of being a sentient being is self-awareness. Cats are self-aware, as are rabbits, dogs, etc. Unless I'm mistaken, bugs do not exhibit any characteristics of self-awareness. Phoenix (who's looking at that cockroach with menacing eyes....squish) 1sound.com/phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 In einer eMail vom 16.01.2004 02:28:55 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt : > Message: 11 > Thu, 15 Jan 2004 06:42:55 -0000 > " Dave " <phantombluefan > holiday food gift idea..... > > hi there, I was thinking that if it aint already done, some company > ought to make a vegetarian food basket for the holidays with some > fake meats too. for instance I've had vegetarian pepperoni and it is > quite good. they could include various vegan soy cheeses and other > goodies. if I had any skills or backing I would do this myself but I > dont. hopefully someone will do it for next season if they aint > already doin it. I personally would love to try vegetarian summer > sausage with that good mustard. also I dont know if it got posted or > not but awhile back I asked if any company made a vegetarian corned > beef. well thats about it for now. stay cool, Dave > I thought one of the points of vegetarianism was getting away from even the texture of meat. Ugh, the mere thought makes me sick to my stomach. Phoenix 1sound.com/phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 In einer eMail vom 16.01.2004 02:28:55 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt : > Message: 17 > Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:50:04 -0600 > The Stewarts <stews9 > Straight To Hell, Boy > > You're going straight to Hell where you'll burn for Eternity. > > Face up. > > > On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 01:57 PM, > wrote: > > >Now, just in thinking I was wondering: What are the implications of > >killing flys and mosquitoes etc? Especially when they're in the > >kitchen, I really never had any qualms about squishing the little > >buggers. > > " Sept. 11 was the `open sesame' to the path to world empire, " he said. " It > doesn't matter for Bush if things turn out well or badly in Iraq. If they > turn out well, they can start to think of the next step. If they turn out > badly, that's still good for him because of American patriotism. Who's > going to be against George W. Bush when he's mourning the deaths of our > boys? Either way he won't have to face the increasing problems here with > the American economy and the scandals, with the breakdown in belief in two > huge systems: corporate leadership and the priesthood. " What does this have to do with squishing bugs? Phoenix 1sound.com/phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 > I thought one of the points of vegetarianism was getting away from even the > texture of meat. Ugh, the mere thought makes me sick to my stomach. Well, that depends. For those people who like meat, but are doing it for health reasons meat substitutes are perfect. For other people they are perfect too! I for one avoided them for years because I too didn't like the texture and it reminded me far too much of meat. (I still don't like TVP.) Not to mention that I didn't see the point of having to put fake meat in everything. I thought there was plenty of other stuff to eat. Lately, I've changed my tune and I do like some meat substitutes. I like those smoked tempeh fakin' bacon strips (not toooo bacon like to me), veggie burgers--as long as I know it's vegetables and not too meat- like (I don't like Boca Burgers.) Sometimes I like the Yves veggie ground round, but I can't eat too much of it. I also like the fake pepperoni and the Tofurkey slices. I like some Tofurkey itself too. One thing I really like fake meats for is for teaching meat eaters that there is another alternative. I like to make them for my meat-eating friends. I think they are an excellent way to introduce them to vegetarianism while still making them feel somewhat " at home " . My $.02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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