Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 > " I'm so far a lacto-oval, " > > Are you a milk-drinking oval??? hehehehehe > (just kidding!) Ok, like I said, new guy here, I'm not familiar with all the terminology. I know that a vegan uses no animal products whatsoever (cheese, milk etc. . .) but I'm not sure on the others. I met a vegetarian once that would eat fish, but no other meats. . .go figure. Is there a glossary of veggie terms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Hi Kevin - Don't get worried or frustrated about the terms and such. There is *always* lots of debate on this list over exact definitions. On the links page, there are some great resources that can better explain all sorts of things. One site I like is vegan.com - they have a great FAQ section, although (as per the name) it's focus is on veganism. I think the term for the " vegetarian " you mention below is a pescatarian or something like that. Altho, as PT so artfully puts it, it's better to think of it as SeaLife rather than Seafood. Welcome to the board and to the vegetarian lifestyle. May you enjoy both! -K , " Kevin Smith " <thatballguy> wrote: > > " I'm so far a lacto-oval, " > > > > Are you a milk-drinking oval??? hehehehehe > > (just kidding!) > > Ok, like I said, new guy here, I'm not familiar with all the > terminology. I know that a vegan uses no animal products whatsoever > (cheese, milk etc. . .) but I'm not sure on the others. I met a > vegetarian once that would eat fish, but no other meats. . .go figure. > > > Is there a glossary of veggie terms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Hi, Don't apologize for not being familiar with terms. You see various terms used differently by different folks. For instance, some folks would consider cheese within the lacto-ovo confines of vegetarianism, and some folks wouldn't (because of the animal rennet...stomach from calves or lambs) used in the process of making many cheeses. Beers & wines also are often made using animal products. You mentioned knowing someone who was a vegetarian & ate fish. I have known folks who said they were vegetarian & ate both fish and chicken :-) Guess it's all in how we interpret things, huh? I have read that a fish eater may sometimes be called a demi- vegetarian, and have also heard folks who eat fish use the term pesco- vegetarian. Generally, I think it's safe to say, if a person eats some sort of flesh, he or she isn't really considered to be vegetarian. I don't know how terribly important the terms are; I think each of us needs to find a place on the food chain where we can live with ourselves, & that place may be a little different for each of us. When you asked if there was a glossary of veggie terms, I did find some sites with simple lists. Here's one of them: http://www.geocities.com/omnifox/vegetarian/glossary.html wishing you good health! Sheri , " Kevin Smith " <thatballguy> wrote: > Ok, like I said, new guy here, I'm not familiar with all the > terminology. I know that a vegan uses no animal products whatsoever > (cheese, milk etc. . .) but I'm not sure on the others. I met a > vegetarian once that would eat fish, but no other meats. . .go figure. > > > Is there a glossary of veggie terms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 > Ok, like I said, new guy here, I'm not familiar with all the > terminology. I know that a vegan uses no animal products whatsoever > (cheese, milk etc. . .) but I'm not sure on the others. I met a > vegetarian once that would eat fish, but no other meats. . .go figure. > Is there a glossary of veggie terms? No problem on being the new guy. We're glad you're here!! I was just picking on you. Anyone who says they are a " vegetarian " , but still eats fish is not really a true vegetarian. I would go so far as to call them a " pesce (meaning fish)-vegetarian " or an " aspiring " vegetarian, but they are not really a vegetarian. If you ask most of us on this list and others who are trued vegetarians, you will find that the fish and chicken thing comes up a lot and that it bugs the most of us. It has caused a lot of confusion in the world. I always set them straight. As far as veggie terms, well, it's not hard: Vegetarian: eats no animal flesh. This includes not eating fish and chicken, but could include eating eggs and/or dairy products. Lacto: refers to milk and could be used as a designate to indicate a vegetarian who consumes dairy. Ovo: refers to eggs and could be used to indicate one who eats eggs. Vegan: one who eats nothing that was an animal or came from an animal. this includes not eating honey, milk, eggs etc and also not using leather, silk, wool and however far you want to go with it. I prefer the term vegetarian for myself. I will still eat dairy products every now and then. I do not eat eggs, drink milk or use leather. I consider myself an " aspiring " vegan, but will probably never call myself a " vegan " because to me it indicates an ideal that is always strived for, but difficult to achieve in pure form. I hope that helped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 agree. if i found myself worrying about single-celled organisms, which would include trace bacteria, i'd know i'd crossed the line from veganism to jainism (which for anyone who doesn't know is an eastern religion that wears masks so as not to inhale insects). human perfection is impossible, you just aim for the best you can. it was weird when i finally made the veg/vegan transition. peta has some excellent links i think on things like wool, which i'm still transiting out of, and they point out you can phase yourself in as fast as you find it possible. the leather shoes i thought would be tough till i found a store a notch below the usual department stores that carries a lot of inexpensive stuff labeled " all man-made materials " . i threw away two leather jackets, a sheepskin rug, a caribou hide i'd been given (think wall hanging), and stuff like that, and i watched myself hesitate for a moment, but once i made the break, it was extremely freeing. once you start reading more. it's like the etymology of the word -- vegetarian taken to its logical conclusion. vegan for three plus years now, grateful to be here, not going back. liquid smoke is basically hickory smoke condensed into a water solution and makes a great additive to things like marinated mushrooms as well as fakin bacon etc. the tofutti fake sour cream, which is an excellent sub btw from dip to baked potato, doesn't bother me since i'm pretty active. not sure about the homemade fake; commercial ones know they have to be close to succeed; tried a homemade eggnog sub once and won't again, but the silk stuff at holiday time is fantastic and i all but clear off the shelves when it comes out :-D , " Sheryl " <ssarndt> wrote: > > > Ok, like I said, new guy here, I'm not familiar with all the > > terminology. I know that a vegan uses no animal products > whatsoever > > (cheese, milk etc. . .) but I'm not sure on the others. I met a > > vegetarian once that would eat fish, but no other meats. . .go > figure. > > > Is there a glossary of veggie terms? > > No problem on being the new guy. We're glad you're here!! I was > just picking on you. Anyone who says they are a " vegetarian " , > but still eats fish is not really a true vegetarian. I would go so > far as to call them a " pesce (meaning fish)-vegetarian " or > an " aspiring " vegetarian, but they are not really a vegetarian. If > you ask most of us on this list and others who are trued > vegetarians, you will find that the fish and chicken thing comes up > a lot and that it bugs the most of us. It has caused a lot of > confusion in the world. I always set them straight. As far as > veggie terms, well, it's not hard: > > Vegetarian: eats no animal flesh. This includes not eating fish > and chicken, but could include eating eggs and/or dairy products. > > Lacto: refers to milk and could be used as a designate to indicate > a vegetarian who consumes dairy. > > Ovo: refers to eggs and could be used to indicate one who eats eggs. > > Vegan: one who eats nothing that was an animal or came from an > animal. this includes not eating honey, milk, eggs etc and also not > using leather, silk, wool and however far you want to go with it. > > I prefer the term vegetarian for myself. I will still eat dairy > products every now and then. I do not eat eggs, drink milk or use > leather. I consider myself an " aspiring " vegan, but will probably > never call myself a " vegan " because to me it indicates an ideal that > is always strived for, but difficult to achieve in pure form. > > I hope that helped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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