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On Monday, January 5, 2004, at 11:09 AM,

wrote:

 

> Message: 24

> Mon, 05 Jan 2004 17:00:29 -0000

> " Feral " <terebinthus

> a few points to contest with the wizard

>

> , The Stewarts <stews9@c...>

> wrote:

>>

>>

>>> Gandalf the Gray <gandalfthegray86@c...>

>>> (3) If one could avoid buying commercial cat food, and

> additionally > > ensure that either the cat does his or her

> own hunting or gets

> his or her > > food via means of " ethical " slaughter, then

> I would argue it is perfectly > > ethical to keep a cat.

>

> This is wrong. One cannot keep a cat, which is a

> domesticated animal, made that way by humans

> and expect them to all of a sudden hunt for all of

> their own food again. That is just wrong and inhumane

> to force them back into a feral existance. Inhumane

> treatment of these animals would then go against

> veganism.

 

My Darling, surely his response is predicated on the cat being able to do

this. A de-clawed cat, for example, would stand no chance. Most domestic

cats, however, continue to hunt and kill. The level of domesticity is

often more in the humanoid's gaze than in the cat's heart.

 

> The humane and ethical way to handle caring for a

> domesticated cat in the vegan way would be to make

> sure you buy them meat from small family farms,

> preferably organic. One might contact a local butcher

> shop or meatcutter's union for some sources of less

> expensive meat scraps.

 

Yes, which is what he meant by the seeming oxymoron " ethical slaughter " .

 

> I feel quite strongly that no cat should be forced to hunt

> for all of their own food,

 

You can't force a cat to do a damned thing, unless you knock it out first.

lol

 

> and that proper care and

> nourishment should be provided for them.

 

Agreed.

 

> If a cat

> chooses to hunt for additional food, or wishes to hunt

> simply to satisfy a primal itch, that should be allowed,

> but not forced upon them for mere survival.

 

I'm absolutely sure my son would never let a cat starve simply because it

was a klutz hunter, nor would he have meant that.

 

>

>>> Certainly, though, you should think before you act.

> And if you have a > > cat -- keep the cat, and feed it, too!

> (You shouldn't get rid of the > > poor unethical beast!)

>

> We should stop trying to force a cat into the same

> category as humans in regards to ethics; calling them

> an " unethical beast " because they are naturally

> carnivorous is just silly.

 

No, it's called joking. The element of silliness is part of the humor.

Settle down, girl. lol

>

>

>>> And if you are getting a cat, period, then do one

>>> ethical thing: go to a shelter.

>

> Absolutely! Get your cats from a shelter.

> They always have loving cats in despirate need of a good

> home

 

Quite true.

 

> . If you do get a cat, treat them like a god or goddess.

 

Bastet, to be precise, yes.

 

> Make sure you provide for all of their essential needs

> and give them regular check-ups. If they hunt for additional

> food outside, make sure they get wormed on a regular basis

> as they will get deadly parasites from eating mice or moles.

 

I remain a dog person but find certain cat people acceptable, even cute.

lol

>

> ~ feral ~

>

>

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--Everett Bedford

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