And If, Then Proposition

[Guest guest]

On Friday, December 12, 2003, at 07:04 AM, (AT) (DOT)

com wrote:

 

> Message: 5

> Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:33:19 -0000

> " dave " <dave4sale

> Re: Just a Warning

>

> I think they should be able to post whatever the hell they want. Of

> course, then they should also have to be subjected to counter-

> arguments...

 

This is precisely where I get hung up because I've in the past offered

such counter arguments and have been invited to leave groups, and outright

banned from groups. Rather than put this group through such idiocy, I say

we demand a certain level of pertinence in our posts. As for sigs, I

agree, they can be about anything -- my thousand-plus sigs range in

content all over the map. However, when one sig is dinned into our eyes

time and again, over and over, it becomes difficult to ignore. Constant

irritant is what I'd call this particular sig we're discussing, and

although I remember the last contretemps and had ignored it since, it

eventually bugged me again to the point at which I once again commented.

 

I regretted having done this at first, but now, seeing how others agree

with my general moan of exasperation, I'm okay with having raised the

issue.

 

And you're right, Dave. If it's okay to bring it up, then it sure as hell

ought to be okay to discuss, and that includes counter arguments.

 

> the " worst form of child abuse " ; clearly this person

> has never experienced true child abuse or criminal neglect. Also,

> there is a problem with the semantics. " Children " are not aborted.

> It is an embryo- not even a fetus, seeing as how no liscensed doctor

> will perform " partial birth " abortion- that is aborted. So if they

> changed the sig to " abortion- the worst form of embryo abuse " then I

> might be inclined to agree, if not for prenatal exposure to alcohol

> which can be extremely devastating.

 

The phrasing is intended to evoke emotional response and short-circuit

thinking; it's a common (and typically unfair) tactic of zealots.

 

" The more I consider the blood shed by true believers, the more convinced

I become that we remain most human when we keep the great mythic questions

alive without demanding answers. "

--Sam Keen, From a Dancing God

[Guest guest]

Ok, I see your point. This is a vegetarian forum after all so

something that is completely out of the realm of animal rights or

diet,- or at least something that affects vegetarians / animals in

some way like the environment- should really be on an OT post, if at

all. Now if someone wanted to post and argue the pros of eating

meat, I would fully support their right to do so. And maybe we could

convince them they are misinformed.