Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 It's also worth noting that in the religions of Islam and Judaism which prohibit the consumption of pig flesh, it is not done out of any sacredness or respect for the animal (i.e. cows in hindi religion), but rather out of the belief that pigs are filthy beasts unfit for human consumption. I believe the passage in the old testament the passage says something about not eating animals with " cloven hooves " . As for kosher laws, that stemmed from some passage about not eating " a goat boiled in the milk of its mother " , (because this was supposedly an ancient " satanic " ritual) which has since been stretched to include never mixing dairy with meat. My gf (who is Jewish- ethnicity only) tells me that among kosher Jews, becoming a vegetarian / vegan is " cheating " , because keeping kosher is supposed to be hard and inconvenient; evidently so they can complain about it and yet maintain their self-righteousness. Now, although I'd prefer people not eat pork for ethical reasons, I'm all for them believing whatever they want if it means one less pig being killed. But what " gets my goat " is that if someone says they have some dietary restriction because of their religion people tend to accept it and take it seriously, whereas if someone actually thought for themselves and went veggie for ethical or health reasons they are often scoffed at and pressured to defend their position... Of course, beliefs based on unconventional / non-western religions (i.e. buddhism and wiccanism) tend not to be taken seriously either. , The Stewarts <stews9@c...> wrote: > > On Sunday, November 30, 2003, at 06:43 PM, (AT) (DOT) > com wrote: > > > ubject: Re: It's Coming Fast > > > > Re McD's and their beef-infused fries: > > > >> In some Islamic sects intent doesn't enter into it. If you eat pork, you go to their Hell equivalent. Even if you didn't know it. > > So I understand - and sympathize. As it happens, members of these sects > wouldn't be affected by the McD fries, though, would they - not since > > McD's can guarantee (hah!) vegetable oil for frying and beef (not pork) as the natural flavour. > > Well, some have restrictions against meat of all kinds, or of mixing > certain things in certain ways, akin to Kosher law. > > All such rules being control freaks with OCD making up crap to force > others to live as they wish, of course. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 > becoming a vegetarian / vegan is " cheating " , because keeping kosher > is supposed to be hard and inconvenient And being a vegetarian / vegan *isn't*? Wheeeeee! I understood from Jewish friends that the point was not the degree of inconvenience or difficulty or even suffering, but simply keeping the Law, no extra brownie points for doing more than keeping the Law. But what would I know!!! *lol* You also wrote: > But what " gets my goat " is that if someone says they have > some dietary restriction because of their religion people tend to > accept it and take it seriously, whereas if someone actually thought > for themselves and went veggie for ethical or health reasons they are > often scoffed at and pressured to defend their position... Yeah. Mine too :=( Actually, though, we tried out various 'reasons' when we first went veggie, and 'health' was more readily understood than 'ethics, although you'd still get the hassle about defending everything you had ever contemplated putting into your mouth. 'Ethical' reasons can bring on downright ridicule with some. Annoying. I try not to explain myself, but sometimes one just does.One person said: 'Well, if you won't explain why you're vegetarian, how on earth do you expect to make converts? " I told him I didn't expect to - and boy oh boy was he *angry*. Can't win *lol* You conclude with: > Of course, > beliefs based on unconventional / non-western religions (i.e. > buddhism and wiccanism) tend not to be taken seriously either. As I say, you can't win *lol* Best, Pat. -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet " - Gandhi * " The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men " - Leonardo da Vinci ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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